Messi The Greatest Ever?

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I love the dude. But the best player ever? By his own account, Ronaldinho is a better player. No athlete of color would get the kind of love is get from Barcelona.
 
I thought Pele ws the goat. Not big into futbol but my grand father is a lifetime supporter of the sport and speaks very highly of him
 
I love the dude. But the best player ever? By his own account, Ronaldinho is a better player. No athlete of color would get the kind of love is get from Barcelona.

sat night at 1am and you making threads about loving males on a porn board:smh::smh::smh:
 
Currently, he is the best player in the world and probably the best player we have seen in the last 10 years. But he has a free role at the best club in the world, with two of the best midfielders of this generation (Xavi and Iniesta) passing it to him.

If you look at the game's history, the greats have been defined by what they do on the international stage. To this point, Messi hasn't delivered. He's still young and Argentina have a ton of talent coming through, so he will have his opportunity.
 
Currently, he is the best player in the world and probably the best player we have seen in the last 10 years. But he has a free role at the best club in the world, with two of the best midfielders of this generation (Xavi and Iniesta) passing it to him.

If you look at the game's history, the greats have been defined by what they do on the international stage. To this point, Messi hasn't delivered. He's still young and Argentina have a ton of talent coming through, so he will have his opportunity.

Well said..
 
just curious, who would you say is?

ME!
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Ronaldo (not Cristiano) is the best that has ever done it:yes: Neymar got the skills but to say he's the best right now is a bit much. There's a lot of good players out now and to choose just one would be hard.
 
Ronaldo (not Cristiano) is the best that has ever done it:yes: Neymar got the skills but to say he's the best right now is a bit much. There's a lot of good players out now and to choose just one would be hard.

yeah Ronaldo only comp is Pele

Ronaldo is probably the best striker the game has ever seen

Ronaldo has two cups, Pele has three

its sad how Brazil underachieved in the 2006 cup

but Pele is the goat

and Neymar is the best player right now :lol:
 
If you look at the game's history, the greats have been defined by what they do on the international stage. To this point, Messi hasn't delivered. He's still young and Argentina have a ton of talent coming through, so he will have his opportunity.

This. He's still a second-tier all-time great until he delivers at the world cup. Argentina still ranks Maradona over him because of that.
 
He is not even better than maradonna. Maradonna went to a napoli club that was trash back in the day and won two scudettos.

Diego was an absolute magician.

And you cant put him above zinedine zidane
 
Like others have mentioned, Messi is a great player but to go down in legendary status, you need to prove it on the international stage.

Pele, Maradona, Beckenbauer, Zidane, Ronaldo have all won world cup medals. That's why they are regarded as great players.
 
ronaldo (the real one) is the best ever to me. nigga cant even do shit with Argentina and Argentina is a great squad. plus i want to see him him shine somewhere else with out xavi and iniesta. i have seen him without him and dude was struggling. still good but struggling.

and what MCP said.
 
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He is not even better than maradonna. Maradonna went to a napoli club that was trash back in the day and won two scudettos.

Diego was an absolute magician.

And you cant put him above zinedine zidane

this is why when mofos come to me and want to debate messi vs maradonna, i shut them down quick. let messi prove himself without xavi and them let me see. im not a c ronaldo fan but at least he proved to me that he is the shit in 2 teams in 2 different countries.

and im not even going into how the game is much easier for strikers now.
 
Currently he is the best, but ever? Hell naw. You have zidane, ronaldinho, ronaldo (the one who got little chubby).
Messi is a great player but the best ever he isn't

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I love the dude. But the best player ever? By his own account, Ronaldinho is a better player. No athlete of color would get the kind of love is get from Barcelona.

For this thread to have anything more than a 1 star shows how little American's know about football (soccer)...

1st of all Messi isn't even the best Argentinian soccer player ever... See Maradona!?!?!?!

2nd of all he's not better than Pele (the goat)
 
ronaldo (the real one) is the best ever to me. nigga cant even do shit with Argentina and Argentina is a great squad. plus i want to see him him shine somewhere else with out xavi and iniesta. i have seen him without him and dude was struggling. still good but struggling.

and what MCP said.

You don't know soccer--At All!
 
I've never seen a player like Messi, he does everything great at twice the speed of many of his contemporaries.
 
Players I consider better than Messi


Pele
Maradona

Zidane
Ronaldinho
Ronaldo (the Brazilian one)

We can debate the last 3, but thank you for deadin' this conversation.... Obviously someone here follows the game...

Ronaldinho & Ronaldo to me are on the all time list though but I STILL do not understand the Messi is the greatest argument as if Pele and Maradona didn't exist.

No disrespect to Messi because his below average height and super human speed is AWESOME.

shit just off Pele's age that he dominated is enough for me.
 
Ronaldinho & Ronaldo to me are on the all time list though but I STILL do not understand the Messi is the greatest argument as if Pele and Maradona didn't exist.

No disrespect to Messi because his below average height and super human speed is AWESOME.

shit just off Pele's age that he dominated is enough for me.



This.

:yes::yes::yes:

Maradona single handedly demolished England in a world Cup.


Messi is nobody on the world stage.

Zidane single handedly demolished Brazil in a World Cup.


Put Messi's name in the hat with Karl Heinz Rummenegger, Bobby Charlton, Gheorghe Hagi, George Weah, Franz Beckenbauer, etc....


Pele GOAT then Maradona. Both those two stand way above anyone else in history.

Pele controlled, dominated and won a World Cup at 17yrs old :hmm:

:itsawrap:
 

Too little too frail; this is why Mano Menezes who hitched his wagon to the boy is gone, and has been replaced by Felipe Scolari...Even then, Brazil, who have fallen to number 18 in the Fifa ranking stand in danger of following South Africa out of the first round of the world cup if they continue with their mediocrity
 
Im cool with people saying he aint the best ever yet... but those of you who say he aint the best TODAY are really bullshittin.

He is head and shoulders above of his competition today. Plus he is so young, if he stays healthy he will rewrite the entire record book.

That said, unless he wins at least one world cup he will never be considered better then Maradona or Pele.
 
good discussion. I've only been watching for a couple years so it's interesting to see how long-time fans feel about this
 
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