DJANGO: est $62+ Million in first 6 days - thanks, Spike!

[Les W]

WELP... Looks like it's just me and the trolls left ... well maybe 1-2 posters I will respond to if they make real replies... I got other things to do but it was fun yall... and just so you ALL know no hard feelings ... just droppin my 2 cents ... no need for all the venom guys


have a safe and happy new years if I don't see you

 

[Rick Spanish]

WELP... Looks like it's just me and the trolls left ...

The only one trolling here is you, dumb ass..


Who the fuck tries to use Gay Porn as an analogy to why they choose to stay ignorant about a film they can't stop discussing?..

 

[rNubb]

The only one trolling here is you, dumb ass..


Who the fuck tries to use Gay Porn as an analogy to why they choose to stay ignorant about a film they can't stop discussing?..

Why are you spending so much energy in so many threads defending this movie and its writer/director?

Why are you so passionate about this movie?

What is so beneficial?

 

[Rick Spanish]

Why are you spending so much energy in so many threads defending this movie and its writer/director?

Why are you so passionate about this movie?

What is so beneficial?

I'm not defending shit, I was having a debate with a dumb ass, about an inaccurate statement.


And the rest of these questions should be directed at these fools that refuse to see the movie, but have been keeping the threads about it on the front page for more than a week..

 

[Naha-Nago]

WELP... Looks like it's just me and the trolls left ... well maybe 1-2 posters I will respond to if they make real replies... I got other things to do but it was fun yall... and just so you ALL know no hard feelings ... just droppin my 2 cents ... no need for all the venom guys


have a safe and happy new years if I don't see you

Hey man I have no beef with you or any particular poster for that matter my only issue and grind in general is this...

- If someone wants to watch the movie...cool

- If someone does not want to watch the movie...cool

-If someone wants to watch the movie and then call people ignorant dumbasses cause they don't want to see it...NOT COOL.

-If someone doesn't want to see the movie and then questions anyone who does want to see its blackness...NOT COOL.

-Anyone trying to give multi-post dissertations on a film -either good or bad- without seeing the film....is disingenuous and can't be taken serious.

-Anyone trying to pull the conscious broths/ e-militant route and pull other cats "black community card" on a Black Porn Board whose fucking mission statement is THE OBJECTIFICATION AND EXPLOITATION OF BLACK WOMEN VIA PORN...is a laughing stock.


That's it, cats trying to CONTINUE TO DEBATE a movie without seeing it (any post prior to it's release of course are forgiven but by now it has nation wide distribution ) and then calling out folks black consciousness while on a black porn board is just dishonest on several levels.


Have a happy new years fam. Good luck with the not watching porn thing.

*two cents*

 

[KP404]

Hey man I have no beef with you or any particular poster for that matter my only issue and grind in general is this...

- If someone wants to watch the movie...cool

- If someone does not want to watch the movie...cool

-If someone wants to watch the movie and then call people ignorant dumbasses cause they don't want to see it...NOT COOL.

-If someone doesn't want to see the movie and then questions anyone who does want to see it's blackness...NOT COOL.

-Anyone trying to give multi-post dissertations on a film -either good or bad- without seeing the film....is disingenuous and can't be taken serious.


That's it, cats trying to CONTINUE TO DEBATE a movie without seeing it (any post prior to it's release of course are forgiven but by now it has nation wide distribution ) and then calling out folks black consciousness while on a black porn board is just dishonest on several levels.


Have a happy new years fam. Good luck with the not watching porn thing.

*two cents*

post of the month

 

[Complex]

Hey man I have no beef with you or any particular poster for that matter my only issue and grind in general is this...

- If someone wants to watch the movie...cool

- If someone does not want to watch the movie...cool

-If someone wants to watch the movie and then call people ignorant dumbasses cause they don't want to see it...NOT COOL.

-If someone doesn't want to see the movie and then questions anyone who does want to see it's blackness...NOT COOL.

-Anyone trying to give multi-post dissertations on a film -either good or bad- without seeing the film....is disingenuous and can't be taken serious.

-Anyone trying to pull the conscious broths/ e-militant route and pull other cats "black community card" on a Black Porn Board whose fucking mission statement is THE OBJECTIFICATION AND EXPLOITATION OF BKACK WOMEN VIA PORN...is a laughing stock.


That's it, cats trying to CONTINUE TO DEBATE a movie without seeing it (any post prior to it's release of course are forgiven but by now it has nation wide distribution ) and then calling out folks black consciousness while on a black porn board is just dishonest on several levels.


Have a happy new years fam. Good luck with the not watching porn thing.

*two cents*

Martin Luther King or Malcolm X shouldn't have been listened too, because they were flawed individuals?

Some of these arguments are dumb ass fuck and only a dumb ass would agree with this shit.

I hope you never criticize shit ever again in your life, because you're on a porn board. Use that dumb ass argument in every thread.

Why the fuck should you financially support a movie you object too? Some of you muthafuckas stand nothing.

 

[sumofyallniggasisbitches2]

Support our own??


1. Wrong... and smh at your corny attempt to sound educated lol

The only thing I was wrong about was thinking you could have an intelligent discussion about a passionate subject that proves mutually beneficial.

2. Ok... I'll bite... Name a few of these subliminal messages and their implications...
lemme guess you gotta run all of a sudden ...see you tomorrow

Let me bring it down to your level so that you understand

Yo dumb ass is the one that mentioned subliminal messages and implied that because I liked the movie I was unable to see the hidden and subversive elements. I was responding to your comment.

3. Neither did I... Unless your newly super-intelligent and ultra-sophisticated mind somehow thinks Django is a Disney Film lol

See above response, once again you are the one that suggested that the type of person that would see this movie is also the type of person that would let their "seed" watch it.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Hey man I have no beef with you or any particular poster for that matter my only issue and grind in general is this...

- If someone wants to watch the movie...cool

- If someone does not want to watch the movie...cool

-If someone wants to watch the movie and then call people ignorant dumbasses cause they don't want to see it...NOT COOL.

-If someone doesn't want to see the movie and then questions anyone who does want to see its blackness...NOT COOL.

-Anyone trying to give multi-post dissertations on a film -either good or bad- without seeing the film....is disingenuous and can't be taken serious.

-Anyone trying to pull the conscious broths/ e-militant route and pull other cats "black community card" on a Black Porn Board whose fucking mission statement is THE OBJECTIFICATION AND EXPLOITATION OF BLACK WOMEN VIA PORN...is a laughing stock.


That's it, cats trying to CONTINUE TO DEBATE a movie without seeing it (any post prior to it's release of course are forgiven but by now it has nation wide distribution ) and then calling out folks black consciousness while on a black porn board is just dishonest on several levels.


Have a happy new years fam. Good luck with the not watching porn thing.

*two cents*

Cool.
Me? I said what I had to say about Tarantino and his less than stellar filmmaking abilities long ago but I keep coming back because I hate the idea that's been thrown out there than somehow Spike Lee is "hating" on him because he doesn't care for his movies in general and is a lesser filmmaker because he doesn't draw as much money. You can like one more than the other without discrediting the latter.

 

[Rick Spanish]

Cool.
Me? I said what I had to say about Tarantino and his less than stellar filmmaking abilities long ago but I keep coming back because I hate the idea that's been thrown out there than somehow Spike Lee is "hating" on him because he doesn't care for his movies in general and is a lesser filmmaker because he doesn't draw as much money. You can like one more than the other without discrediting the latter.

Spike isn't on Tarantino's level and Spike knows it, box office earnings notwithstanding.. Anyone that says different is a fool..

 

[geechiedan]

Why the fuck should you financially support a movie you object too? Some of you muthafuckas stand nothing.

they don't hear you

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Spike isn't on Tarantino's level and Spike knows it, box office earnings notwithstanding.. Anyone that says different is a fool..

He's not on Tarantino's level, he's much, much better.
When he makes an original film that's not a homage to westerns or kung fu flicks or blaxploitation movies, a truly original work, then he and his fans can talk about him being even close to Spike Lee.

 

[Rick Spanish]

they don't hear you

Why spend countless hours, and days discussing a film you don't care to financially support?..

 

[geechiedan]

Spike isn't on Tarantino's level and Spike knows it, box office earnings notwithstanding.. Anyone that says different is a fool..

spikes an asshole but at least he's got a voice..QT stands on the shoulders of others work that he blatantly rips off.

Thats like saying Prince isn't on Dr Dre.s level because Dre has more hits than Prince. Prince plays 17 different instruments and can read music..Dre cuts and pastes snippets of other peoples music together and adds his own "touches" which is basically smaller snippets of other peoples music puts his name on top of it and calls himself a musician

What QT does is clever but its hackery nonetheless.

 

[KP404]

He's not on Tarantino's level, he's much, much better.
When he makes an original film that's not a homage to westerns or kung fu flicks or blaxploitation movies, a truly original work, then he and his fans can talk about him being even close to Spike Lee.

Spike isn't on Tarantino's level and Spike knows it, box office earnings notwithstanding.. Anyone that says different is a fool..

I disagree I think both Spike and Tarantino are two of the most essential and greatest directors of all time...they are different in style and originality, but both are excellent at what they do and both have classic movies

 

[geechiedan]

Why spend countless hours, and days discussing a film you don't care to financially support?..

Its the internet..I have an opinion and I'm on vacation

 

[Rick Spanish]

He's not on Tarantino's level, he's much, much better.

That's your opinion... But you're wrong IMO..


Not saying I don't like Spike as a Director, but he's no consistent. I'd put Pulp Fiction alone up against anything he's ever done, and nothing really comes close (except maybe Malcolm X).


And the last part of your statement make no sense.. I guess you're supposed to create a new genre every time you make a film..


Every film that's made is paying homage in one way or another...

 

[Naha-Nago]

Martin Luther King or Malcolm X shouldn't have been listened too, because they were flawed individuals?

Some of these arguments are dumb ass fuck and only a dumb ass would agree with this shit.

I hope you never criticize shit ever again in your life, because you're on a porn board. Use that dumb ass argument in every thread.

Why the fuck should you financially support a movie you object too? Some of you muthafuckas stand nothing.

Your right. I believe I should not in good faith try to pull any other nigga's "community uplifting/ respect for ancestors" card if Im continue to participate in and financially support a board that's mission statement is based on the objectification and exploitation of half our community; its women. To do otherwise would be grossly hypocritical.

I'm not holding anyone to a standard I'm not holding myself to.


Now what.


*two cents:

 

[Rick Spanish]

Its the internet..I have an opinion and I'm on vacation

Just call it what it is.. You're all anxious to see the film, but are too cheap to pay (or you're a lonely loser ass nigga that doesn't have anyone to go with you), so you sit on your ass day-in/day-out carrying on about the movie, patiently waiting on that lank to drop..

 

[Upgrade Dave]

spikes an asshole but at least he's got a voice..QT stands on the shoulders of others work that he blatantly rips off.

Thats like saying Prince isn't on Dr Dre.s level because Dre has more hits than Prince. Prince plays 17 different instruments and can read music..Dre cuts and pastes snippets of other peoples music together and adds his own "touches" which is basically smaller snippets of other peoples music puts his name on top of it and calls himself a musician

Good analogy.

I disagree I think both Spike and Tarantino are two of the most essential and greatest directors of all time...they are different in style and originality, but both are excellent at what they do and both have classic movies

Even though I'm not a fan, I will never say Tarantino doesn't make entertaining movies (for his audience) but he doesn't make "great" films that mean anything. Spike has at least two all time classics and a few classic documentaries while Tarantino looked amateurish when compared side by side with a contemporary in Robert Rodriguez in "Grindhouse".

That's your opinion... But you're wrong IMO..


Not saying I don't like Spike as a Director, but he's no consistent. I'd put Pulp Fiction alone up against anything he's ever done, and nothing really comes close.


And the last part of your statement make no sense.. I guess you're supposed to create a new genre every time you make a film..


Every film that's made is paying homage in one way or another...

Not true. My statement made plenty of sense, you just don't agree. It's not about creating new genres, just do them well and show some spark of originality. Every film is not a homage, just every Tarantino film.

"Pulp Fiction"? I thought it was groundbreaking when I first saw it... and then I saw "Reservoir Dogs" and realized that he just made the same movie twice.

At the end of 2012, not one person can name a time when they think a Tarantino movie or Quentin himself was robbed of an Oscar he should have won.
Ironically, the one he won was a Best Writing for "Pulp Fiction".


btw
I did like "Kill Bill Vol 2". A lot less of his normal bullshit and more straightforward than the original. Probably too much dialogue for most Tarantino fans but I thought it was better than the first.

 

[sumofyallniggasisbitches2]

Thanks for this... no disrespect but this question shows at this time you lack the ability or focus needed to read and understand the conversation here... this is just for me... can't speak for S

No Imma have to disagree with you. It now is abundantly clear that not only do you lack the comprehensive skills necessary to participate engagingly in this discussion, you apparently are not even trying to.

The poster I was responding to was quite clear about his responses to the movie based on his watching the movie from a completely objective point of view, and separately his point of view when he allowed his experience as a black man to shape his opinion.

Here let me remind you of what was actually said so that you can maintain your focus:

Removing the black man part of me and watching this movie objectively, it was a meandering and aimless experience that was poorly paced, cut, and lacked ANY of the elements that I love about Tarantino films. Honestly, it felt so UN-Tarantino, that had you removed his name and put any other director on it (minus the various Leone zoom-ins), I'd have believed it was done by someone else.

The poster then comes back around later and at the end of his post & wraps his final thoughts on the movie

My buddy said it best. After walking out, it's almost like (and he's not even a big QT fan), this fool made a movie that he didn't even put any real effort into. It's like he made what he thinks THAT audience wants to see. Some shit for the lowest common denominator. It was crude, exploitative, and cinematically immature.

Fuck this movie. Spike was dead on.

See what he did there.. The poster gave his opinion of the quality of the movie based on an objective critique of the movie's merits.

This is what addressed


The following is the poster's impression of the movie when he also allowed himself to reflect and dissect it from a perspective that is in part constructed by his personal identity and experience.

The Black Man in me was revolted. This was basically porn. I've never seen wholesale graphic imagery like this used SOLEY for entertainment.

I won't condemn another man for digging this. I don't get into other people's preferences. That said, my boy and I left this joint at the point when they dumped the water on Kerry Washington. I wanted to leave earlier - much earlier- but I was missing cues from the homie, mistakenly thinking that he was engaged. He too, was appalled. From the Black Mandingo fight to the abhorrent slave chicks on Don Johnson's farm, this shit was insulting on nearly every conceivable level.

To me.

I chose not to address this part because the poster stated previously that he believes QT hates Black men. My response to him was not intended to challenge his belief. He believes what he believes based on a body of work that he has already observed. That being said, he still did not like the movie when he separated his personal opinions from his critique and I, for my part, simply asked if I understood that critique correctly.


I would tell you that "reading is fundamental", but I doubt you'd get the cliche...

 

[geechiedan]

Just call it what it is.. You're all anxious to see the film, but are too cheap to pay (or you're a lonely loser ass nigga that doesn't have anyone to go with you), so you sit on your ass day-in/day-out carrying on about the movie, patiently waiting on that lank to drop..

feel better?

 

[HeathCliff]

Damn you paid that honkie twice to see the same movie?

...and if you made a movie half as entertaining then I'd pay Chico Fontane twice to see the same gotdamn film too

 

[BDR]

I saw the movie and I must say I didn't know what to expect going in but after it finished I was very pleased. It was a great movie

Ya boy Calvin turned into this nigga after he got shot

 

[Afr0kan]

good movie saw it last night

 

[willbprod]

I am a filmmaker, im black and a board member. I have a new movie coming out in a couple of months called "THE LIFE- Sex Drugs and Violence part2" ill start a post when the movie is ready and have a link to buy the dvd or you can join my site to download. Lets see how many people really want to show support to help a fellow black man try to do something positive with his life and start his own movie company and finance his own films without help from ANYBODY. We can complain all we want about other people depicting our life or we can start to support actual black people trying to make a difference without hollywood or non blacks money dictating what i can film and cant film. Ive invested $5000 of my own money into this movie lets see if we have atleast 700 people who is willing to spend $10 to support a true black film company.

 

[Complex]

I am a filmmaker, im black and a board member. I have a new movie coming out in a couple of months called "THE LIFE- Sex Drugs and Violence part2" ill start a post when the movie is ready and have a link to buy the dvd or you can join my site to download. Lets see how many people really want to show support to help a fellow black man try to do something positive with his life and start his own movie company and finance his own films without help from ANYBODY. We can complain all we want about other people depicting our life or we can start to support actual black people trying to make a difference without hollywood or non blacks money dictating what i can film and cant film. Ive invested $5000 of my own money into this movie lets see if we have atleast 700 people who is willing to spend $10 to support a true black film company.

These cheap muthafuckas supporting something black

 

[Rick Spanish]

I am a filmmaker, im black and a board member. I have a new movie coming out in a couple of months called "THE LIFE- Sex Drugs and Violence part2" ill start a post when the movie is ready and have a link to buy the dvd or you can join my site to download. Lets see how many people really want to show support to help a fellow black man try to do something positive with his life and start his own movie company and finance his own films without help from ANYBODY. We can complain all we want about other people depicting our life or we can start to support actual black people trying to make a difference without hollywood or non blacks money dictating what i can film and cant film. Ive invested $5000 of my own money into this movie lets see if we have atleast 700 people who is willing to spend $10 to support a true black film company.

You sound like them niggas that be selling their rap CD's outside the grocery store.



Fuck yo shitty ass movie nigga. Ain't nobody supporting your shit because you're Black, and trying to do something "positive".. That's what the fuck you're supposed to do nigga..


Be a productive member of society, strive for excellence in your craft, and get rid of that flawed mindset that folks are supposed to reward you just for being on the straight and narrow, motherfucker..

 

[Damn Right]

He's a one-hit-wonder at the Box Office, but he stay criticizing other directors that shit on his Lifetime gross with one film.. That's the point..

that one line lets me know that u don't know what tha fuk you're talking about . majority of spike's movies were intentially made with smaller budgets in mind and made money at the box office. and that's why dude has been steadily working, writing, directing and producing since the mid 80s doing this sheit. HIS FILMS MAKE MONEY. end of story.

nobody in the industry continues to finance his flicks for dayum near 30 years because they are in love with the man

 

[Rick Spanish]

that one line lets me know that u don't know what tha fuk you're talking about . majority of spike's movies were intentially made with smaller budgets in mind and made money at the box office. and that's why dude has been steadily working, writing, directing and producing since the mid 80s doing this sheit. HIS FILMS MAKE MONEY. end of story.

nobody in the industry continues to finance his flicks for dayum near 30 years because they are in love with the man

And this post clearly demonstrated you can't fucking read, and YOU don't know what the fuck you're talking about.


Don't quote come around quoting week old posts from me trying to restart arguments, without reading the pages of discussion following.. This shit has been discussed thoroughly.



1. No one said Spike doesn't make money off his films (how else does he afford them damn Knick season tickets?... ha).

2. The majority of Spikes budgets are low, but so are the Box Office returns..

3. QT has had similar budgets in the past and has consistently out-performed Spike..

4. Spike has only ONE worldwide commercial success..



Spike is just not a consistantly profitable director, and his work doesn't have mass appeal.. He's trying to cross over into the studio film world, but he's only had marginal success so far..


Let's just look at films he's made this decade..

Spike has grossed a little over 100 Mill this decade at the box office.. QT doubled that in net profits with Inglorious Bastards alone..


I'm not making an argument for who's the better director. The point I'm making is if you're going to sit on your high horse looking down at all of these directors that are highly profitable.. He needs to make another successful studio film or two..

 

[Damn Right]

And this post clearly demonstrated you can't fucking read, and YOU don't know what the fuck you're talking about.


Don't quote come around quoting week old posts from me trying to restart arguments, without reading the pages of discussion following.. This shit has been discussed thoroughly.

Spike has grossed a little over 100 Mill this decade at the box office.. QT doubled that in net profits with Inglorious Bastards alone..


I'm not making an argument for who's the better director. The point I'm making is if you're going to sit on your high horse looking down at all of these directors that are highly profitable.. He needs to make another successful studio film or two..

oh so now you gotta make BLOCKBUSTERS in order to comment on other directors? funny how your short bus ridin azz ONLY uses that particular yard stick to judge black directors. yet woody allen can make all the bullsheit niche films he wants that hardly gain wide audiences or make much profit at the box office but that white dude can say whatever the fuk he wants about OTHER directors and subjects without oddballs like u saying sheit about that.

fuk outta here. dayum hypocrite azz mutha fuka

 

[mrtwothree]

All controversy aside, I watched it last night. Found it too long, drawn out and pointless. Seemed like QT wanted to just have a big gory shoot out at the end and excessive use of the word "******" and filled out the film with nearly 3 hours of repetition and filler.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

oh so now you gotta make BLOCKBUSTERS in order to comment on other directors? funny how your short bus ridin azz ONLY uses that particular yard stick to judge black directors. yet woody allen can make all the bullsheit niche films he wants that hardly gain wide audiences or make much profit at the box office but that white dude can say whatever the fuk he wants about OTHER directors and subjects without oddballs like u saying sheit about that.

fuk outta here. dayum hypocrite azz mutha fuka

Spike chose a long time ago to go his own way so he doesn't have to do "Fast and Furious" sequels and be choosy about what projects he gets involved in, which includes award winning documentaries.
There is no comparison between him and Tarantino: one is a great filmmaker, one is Tarantino. QT makes hits (usually) but if you've seen one, you've seen them all. Some are better than others but he hasn't had an original idea since "Reservior Dogs".

All controversy aside, I watched it last night. Found it too long, drawn out and pointless. Seemed like QT wanted to just have a big gory shoot out at the end and excessive use of the word "******" and filled out the film with nearly 3 hours of repetition and filler.

Typical QT movie. Not saying it can't still be entertaining, escapist fare but people should stop pretending this is some "powerful" movie.

 

[mrtwothree]

Typical QT movie. Not saying it can't still be entertaining, escapist fare but people should stop pretending this is some "powerful" movie.

definitely, but when compared to Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown and Inglorious Basterds this one falls short. I would have been more entertained if it was maybe an hour shorter.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

definitely, but when compared to Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown and Inglorious Basterds this one falls short. I would have been more entertained if it was maybe an hour shorter.

You could say that about a lot of his movies. If he had an editor, his movies would be more than just good but would actually be "great".