Spike Lee Talks "Django Unchained"

[water]

E-militants out deep tonight.


"Hey fellas I want to see a spaghetti western place in the deep south where the protagonist- a black man-avenges the death of his kidnapped wife by killing a fuck ton of white people!"

E-militant: " I ain't going to watch that cOOn ass shit! And if anyone one black who supports it is a cOOn of the first degree!"

"Wait what? WHY????"

E-militant: "Cause Spike Lee said so- he feels he would be disrespecting his ancestors in seeing it."

"Disrespects his ancestors? A MOVIE ABOUT A SLAVE KILLING WHITE PEOPLE IS DISRESPECTFUL???"

E-militant: "Well they run the same script: white man needs to help black man if he is to do anything worthwhile . You know the whole "Lincoln freed the slaves bullshit"

"Considering the movie is set in the South during the height of slavery I would feel the term would be used quite freely. Bad light? The fuck do you think SLAVERY WAS?"

E-militant: "Well Tarintino uses the word frivolously in his films."

"Where are you cats when Scorsese makes his movies? Hell he rips blacks in everyone of his films MOST IN THE OPENING SCENES (The Departed) while the film will have nothing to do with black in general (" Let's just write in 'I hate ni66ers ' and.....ACTION!"). Yet all I hear is how awesome The Departed and Good fellas were. He gets a pass?"


E-militant: "No one gets a pass. If you think whites in Hollywood have your best interest at heart then you slept thru 400 years of history. Well...I'm not going to see it."


"And that's your right but that doesn't make me a cOOn cause I want to. Want to see a movie about a slave killing white folks by the way."


E-militant: ....


"The movie is not about a slave killing white folks.
It's about white helping blacks to ge there shit done a la Blood Diamonds etc... you know the same script, no good niggas, needing to be helped by the white man even when it is revenge against other white people.

Black people can't even kill white people without white help"


*two cents*

Blacks can only kill blacks on their own.

When it comes to killing white people, black people need white help (permission).

 

[BenQ]

Jackie Brown: Hollywood Racism

 

[moneybroker]

Blacks can only kill blacks on their own.

When it comes to killing white people, black people need white help (permission).

 

[RepostKing]

after tarintino has insulted you for close to 2 hours he's going to throw u biscuit by having Jamie shoot a few worthless crackas. I havent read one review but all i need to see is that bastid as a director. Kats on here most lost than a blind man in the Amazon

 

[Rick Spanish]

People in here too fixated on looking for "hate".

Spike has a legit issue with Tarintino. I also have an isse with Tarintino dropping the word ****** in damn near all of his movies. It feels a lot like he put it in there just to act like he's "down".

Spike Lee has the word ****** in almost all his movies as well.

 

[water]

http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowan...hained_script_and_well_its_certainly_not_nat_




Well… sorry, but that’s not quite the kind of film you’re going to see here, with Django Unchained. It’s not Inglorious Basterds with black Basterds, and white supremacists getting their skulls crushed with baseball bats.




Django isn’t quite the hero here – not the way you’re probably expecting. For a good 2/3 of the script, he’s pretty much playing second fiddle to Christoph Waltz’s character who is essentially Django’s mentor, and the man responsible for his freedom, later providing him with the necessary skills Django needs to eventually challenge the plantation owner who holds his wife captive.


In fact, I’d say that Django doesn’t really, fully, come alive until about the last 25 minutes of this almost 3-hour script/movie.

Suffice it to say that just as it takes the assist of a white man to set Django free and on course towards saving his damsel in distress, it also takes the assist (however unintentional) of a white man to finally allow Django his moment to really shine, and get out of the white man's shadow. And even those last 20 minutes, aren't very satisfying.

As I already noted, Will Smith would essentially have to play second fiddle to Christoph Waltz for about 2/3rds of the film, and I just can't see him signing up for that.

What I think a lot of us would prefer, given your reactions to the initial announcement of this project, is something more akin to a story centered on some brute slave, fed up with the oppressive system he’s been subjected to for all his life, seething with rage, who courageously takes it upon himself, in the face of near-insurmountable, even deadly adversity, to restore some humanity and dignity to the life he and his family lead.

Sure, like Nat Turner, he most likely would be killed in the end, but, I’d rather have that, than this, essentially, black/white buddy action/comedy movie, in the most basic sense.

Django Unchained feels more regressive than transgressive.

 

[water]

Spike Lee has the word ****** in almost all his movies as well.

Context mofo

 

[water]

after tarintino has insulted you for close to 2 hours he's going to throw u biscuit by having Jamie shoot a few worthless crackas.

I havent read one review but all i need to see is that bastid as a director. Kats on here most lost than a blind man in the Amazon

 

[Rick Spanish]

Context mofo

So now there is context to the word ******?..



It doesn't have context in slave drama like Django because the director is White, but it had context in all of Spike's urban dramas because the director is Black?.. FOH..

 

[water]

So now there is context to the word ******?..



It doesn't have context in slave drama like Django because the director is White, but it had context in all of Spike's urban dramas because the director is Black?.. FOH..

Go make a movie about Jews and Holocaust and use 250 kike/hymie words and see what happens

 

[moneybroker]

Go make a movie about Jews and Holocaust and use 250 kike/hymie words and see what happens

He will get drop while writing the script.

 

[Lola]

Interesting. I've only loved one Tarantino film--"Jackie Brown". I think he portrayed her well.

 

[mike123]

Context mofo

 

[Rick Spanish]

Go make a movie about Jews and Holocaust and use 250 kike/hymie words and see what happens

Do Jews walk around calling each other Kikes?.. If they did, would they even have the right to complain?..

 

[water]

Do Jews walk around calling each other Kikes?..

If they did, would they even have the right to complain?..

So you undercover mother fucker


Because some black people call each other nigga, gives white people the right to call black people nigga too


Get the fuck out of here....... the long version

 

[Mentor B]

you do know this is sort of a remake of the old django movie right?? That movie didnt have nothing in it that this ones does..

On some real shit (excluding you) brothers and sisters really need to wake up.. We stay giving white folks a pass to destroy us.


****** is the only racial slur that is ok to use by everybody... Now dont get it twitsted italians call each other wops, and dego's. Jews tease each other with hymie.. Ect.. But they never let outsiders call them that.

Us on the other hand continue to make excuses.

Sad sad sad day...

It's a partial remake of this movie.

In the latter period of the Mexican Revolution, Rancher J.W. Grant (Ralph Bellamy) hires four men, who are all experts in their respective fields, to rescue his kidnapped wife, Maria (Claudia Cardinale) from Jesus Raza (Jack Palance), a former Mexican Revolutionary leader turned bandit.
Team leader Henry "Rico" Fardan (Lee Marvin) is a weapons specialist, Bill Dolworth (Burt Lancaster) is an explosives expert, the horse wrangler is Hans Ehrengard (Robert Ryan) and Jake Sharp (Woody Strode) is a scout with traditional Apache skills, particularly with a bow and arrow. Fardan and Dolworth, having both fought under the command of Pancho Villa, have a high regard for Raza as a soldier. But as hard and cynical professionals, they have no qualms about killing him now.
After crossing the Mexican border, the team tracks the bandits to their hideout. They bear witness as soldiers on a government train are massacred by Raza's small army. The professionals follow the captured train to the end of the line and retake it from the bandits. Some move on to the bandit camp and observe Raza and his followers — including a buxom soldier, Chiquita (Marie Gomez). At nightfall, Fardan infiltrates Raza's private quarters but he is stopped from killing him by Maria, the kidnapped wife. "Amigo," Dolworth concludes, "we've been had."
Fardan does what he is being paid for and escapes with Grant's wife. Back at the train, the men find that it has been retaken by the bandits. After a shootout, they retreat into the mountains, hotly pursued by Raza and his men. The professionals evade capture by using explosives to bring down the prepared walls of a gully, thus blocking the Raza and the bandits' path and delaying their pursuit. It is then revealed that they had not rescued his kidnapped wife but Raza's willing mistress. Grant "bought" Maria for an arranged marriage only for her to escape and return to her "true love" in Mexico.

But as Raza and his group of bandits relentlessly pursue the retreating professionals, Dolworth fights the bandits in a rearguard action to allow the other professionals with Maria to escape. The bandit leader Raza is wounded. As Raza with fellow bandit, Chiquita in the lead attempt to escape, she is shot by Dolworth, who himself narrowly escapes her bullet as she lies dying in his arms. Weakened, Raza is captured by Dolworth.
The four professionals, with Maria and Raza, reach the U.S. border to be met by Grant and his own men. Grant tells Fardan that their contract has been satisfactorily concluded, even before Maria is safely handed over to him.

As Maria tends the wounded Raza on the ground, Grant callously turns to one of his men and says, "Kill him." But before the man can shoot, the gun is shot out of his hand by Dolworth who tells Grant he has not earned the right to kill a man like Raza. The four professionals then step in to protect Maria and Raza. Maria, apparently, never was kidnapped from Grant by Raza after all. The professionals collect the wounded Raza, put him on a carriage and, with Maria at the reins, send both back to Mexico. Grant loses his wife, the professionals their reward.
Grant calls Fardan a bastard, to which Fardan retorts: "Yes, sir, in my case an accident of birth. But you, sir, you are a self-made man." The professionals follow the departing carriage to Mexico.

 

[Rick Spanish]

So you undercover mother fucker


Because some black people call each other nigga, gives white people the right to call black people nigga too


Get the fuck out of here....... the long version

You're an idiot and a hypocrite.... short version



Your life must really suck for you to sit around worrying about Blacks being called ****** in a Slave film..

 

[water]

You're an idiot and a hypocrite.... short version



Your life must really suck for you to sit around worrying about Blacks being called ****** in a Slave film..

What's next?

300 N words in a movie about the election of the first African American President?

Script will have his white staff calling him nigga while helping him to win




This is you:

 

[^SpiderMan^]

ALOT of white/non black cats in this thread.Somethings you just don't have to explain to a brutha.Some folks in here are asking question or bring up points that only a white person would.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

GO on the imdb.com boards they are pissed making topics like "I'm gping to make a movie about a white man killing all blacks"

 

[Rick Spanish]

GO on the imdb.com boards they are pissed making topics like "I'm going to make a movie about a white man killing all blacks"

Damn.. But isn't that every other slave movie ever made?.. CACs..

 

[water]

Damn.. But isn't that every other slave movie ever made?.. CACs..

Don't backpedal now

 

[UnoBetter2]

it has plenty to do with it Spike has made plenty of movies that his ancestors and others find disrespectful but he still makes them spike is a hater if he didnt make it he ain't going to support it. thats just him.

Exactly!!

 

[Rick Spanish]

Don't backpedal now

Backpedal?.. Gotdamn you're an fucking retard, stop addressing me, bruh..

 

[water]

Backpedal?.. Gotdamn you're an fucking retard..

You are NOT qualified to make that assessment Mr well the Jews don't call themselves kike so it would be wrong but black people call themselves niggas so it's ok mofo

 

[Tha Great Muta]

I'm going to see the movie one way or another but the way some white people are acting actually has me wanting to see it. I would have wanted to see a remake of the Fred Williamson Boss western but I would like to see any movie with a black male lead that isn't in a dress. Has anyone actually seen an advance screening??

 

[Rick Spanish]

You are NOT qualified to make that assessment Mr well the Jews don't call themselves kike so it would be wrong but black people call themselves niggas so it's ok mofo

Read my posts in that dumb ass thread you made, and realize you're a few IQ points short of a potato.. Dumb ass..

 

[water]

I'm going to see the movie one way or another but the way some white people are acting actually has me wanting to see it. I would have wanted to see a remake of the Fred Williamson Boss western but I would like to see any movie with a black male lead that isn't in a dress. Has anyone actually seen an advance screening??

Be careful of going to public places in white areas.

Never know when another white boy is going to shoot up the place

 

[ifuno]

Gonna watch it....on bootleg

 

[water]

Read my posts in that dumb ass thread you made, and realize you're a few IQ points short of a potato.. Dumb ass..

The more you say dumbass the more you hope to convince yourself that people around you are dumb and you stick out as the bright spot on an intellectual day.

We know better who the dumb ass is Rick Splanglish

 

[capitalq]

reading these responses, some people get it and some just dont. The only movie about slavery that gets greenlighted in hollywood is one made by a tongue in cheek hack who turns one of the most ignored and horrific times in american history into a bugs bunny cartoon where a WHITE man teaches a black slave how to play cowboy and fight back. And people wonder why spike thinks its disrespectful to our ancestors.

ALOT of white/non black cats in this thread.Somethings you just don't have to explain to a brutha.Some folks in here are asking question or bring up points that only a white person would.

This about sums it up. Less movies, Black folks, more READING. Something about yourself, written by people with your best interests at heart, preferrably

 

[Rick Spanish]

The more you say dumbass the more you hope to convince yourself that people around you are dumb and you stick out as the bright spot on an intellectual day.

We know better who the dumb ass is Rick Splanglish

I don't have to convince myself of shit. You're exposing yourself dumb ass post, by dumb ass post. Nowhere here have I defended the use of the word ****** by QT in any other movie than Django. Condemned it in your own fucking thread you illiterate fuck.. But you're steady being willingly ignorant, trolling away...


You BEEN a dumb ass Kaya.. I ain't telling you nothing new tho. You STAY getting exposed.

 

[water]

I don't have to convince myself of shit. You're exposing yourself dumb ass post, by dumb ass post. Nowhere here have I defended the use of the word ****** by QT in any other movie than Django. Condemned it in your own fucking thread you illiterate fuck.. But you're steady being willingly ignorant, trolling away...


You BEEN a dumb ass Kaya.. I ain't telling you nothing new tho. You STAY getting exposed.

So only this movie Qt gets a pass huh?



Man, get this shit out of here

 

[BGLR1212000]

I know Spike Lee saw Mandingo, what's the difference between that and Django Unchained?

 

[younggiftedandblack]

For a movie that a lot of you kats claim to have no interests in seeing, you all sure do a lot of talking about it. This is the 3rd thread with multiple pages discussing this movie.