do any of you have republican friends?

[lazarus]

do you avoid political issues at all costs or participate in lively discussion? i usually shut down religious right folks by asking them if the bible says help the poor and redistribute or give the money to the rich people in nice clothes and hope it trickles down? missed that scripture

 

[Drayonis]

I have Republican employees.

 

[J.U.S.T.I.C.E]

Good topic. I got this homeboy hes a whit guy ive know him since we were in high school. Almost like a little brother to me hes not racist but hes a republican and hes also really into being from the south and on face book i actively have to ignore his anti obama stuff and on top of that hes a marine to so theres no arguing any point with him. We always gonna be cool but over the past few years mainly since obama came into office i noticed certain things about him that have me

 

[southrue]

My old man is a republican. very conservative and all that.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

I dont have any republican friends. I suspect that most of my coworkers are republican though.

 

[forcesteeler]

Good topic. I got this homeboy hes a whit guy ive know him since we were in high school. Almost like a little brother to me hes not racist but hes a republican and hes also really into being from the south and on face book i actively have to ignore his anti obama stuff and on top of that hes a marine to so theres no arguing any point with him. We always gonna be cool but over the past few years mainly since obama came into office i noticed certain things about him that have me

Funny of people in the south have the highest employment numbers and pay less taxes then the northern state but Vote Republican Every time.

Man i tell you if the South Won the Civil War we would still be in Chains!!

 

[World B Free]

Knew a dude, he was homeless, didn't have a pot to piss in......however he was a Republican and proud, all while he was livin' in a homeless shelter. He was against people taking handouts from the Government.....


.......sounds like madness, true story though ....

 

[durham]

coworkers, family members (all military--they voted for obama last time though),

 

[forcesteeler]

Knew a dude, he was homeless, didn't have a pot to piss in......however he was a Republican and proud, all while he was livin' in a homeless shelter. He was against people taking handouts from the Government.....


.......sounds like madness, true story though ....

Did he forget that most homeless shelters are Government funded People are full of shit.

 

[D-TOWN REP]

I wouldn't say "friends" a few CACs I went to school with who are Facebook friends.

 

[BrainChild09]

do you avoid political issues at all costs or participate in lively discussion? i usually shut down religious right folks by asking them if the bible says help the poor and redistribute or give the money to the rich people in nice clothes and hope it trickles down? missed that scripture

I thought the Bible taught that each person to be charitable & give to those worse off than themselves out of their own pockets & from their own volition. I thought it also talked about each person doing more to help those worse off than themselves than only giving them money. Does the Bible also advocate for government redistribution of individual earnings? I missed that scripture.

 

[mike123]

republicans tend to be racist in some form or other, extremly hypocritical and in possion of a sub-human level of intellegence
i personally find it hard to interact or relate to those kinds of people

 

[bigdog_bx]

My best friend is a Puerto Rican Republican. It is sad. I'm like WTF, but he is content on believing he is part of the "what if he makes over $250k" he is on some shit that Republicans look out for those that want to help themselves. But I hate to remind him he is not white, he does not make $250k, he owes me money and republicans look at him like a welfare case in the big picture.

But fuck it he is my homeboy. I'll be there for him but it is retarded how they have people brainwashed. (Note: we have been friends since I was 6, I am 38 now.)

 

[hussla's paradice]

Funny of people in the south have the highest employment numbers and pay less taxes then the northern state but Vote Republican Every time.

Man i tell you if the South Won the Civil War we would still be in Chains!!

My best friend is a Puerto Rican Republican. It is sad. I'm like WTF, but he is content on believing he is part of the "what if he makes over $250k" he is on some shit that Republicans look out for those that want to help themselves. But I hate to remind him he is not white, he does not make $250k, he owes me money and republicans look at him like a welfare case in the big picture.

But fuck it he is my homeboy. I'll be there for him but it is retarded how they have people brainwashed. (Note: we have been friends since I was 6, I am 38 now.)

"he owes me money"




I work with plenty crackers. They all republican.




what's funny is we share the same views. I think like a republican.


obama my dude tho.

 

[lazarus]

I thought the Bible taught that each person to be charitable & give to those worse off than themselves out of their own pockets & from their own volition. I thought it also talked about each person doing more to help those worse off than themselves than only giving them money. Does the Bible also advocate for government redistribution of individual earnings? I missed that scripture.

follow jesus in the new testament. his whole philosophy is to give handouts to the poor. you think jesus would not want welfare, giving money to help poor people? it doesnt take a genius to see that repugs are doing the opposite of his entire philosophy. he was help the poor first, not give money to the rich then wait around until they make a job and hopefully they hire the poor with little money they want to give out.

 

[BrainChild09]

follow jesus in the new testament. his whole philosophy is to give handouts to the poor. you think jesus would not want welfare, giving money to help poor people? it doesnt take a genius to see that repugs are doing the opposite of his entire philosophy. he was help the poor first, not give money to the rich then wait around until they make a job and hopefully they hire the poor with little money they want to give out.

Jesus' whole "philosophy" was not to vote for Group A to vote for give for government officials to take the wealth from Group B & give it to Group C (and even more to Group A to be true to the analogy). Each member of Group A, B, & C should voluntarily give what they have from their own wealth to help others.

Too many people like yourself completely misconstrue Jesus' message when it comes to giving.

 

[Gazoo]

Have three white male friends... so there you go.

Convinced one to vote for Obama in 08'. He's hesitant now.

 

[cskii]

Have a friend I grew up with that is a Black Republican, but he works on campaigns. I can't remember him working a job where he wasn't a political appointee.

 

[sharkbait28]

Jesus' whole "philosophy" was not to vote for Group A to vote for give for government officials to take the wealth from Group B & give it to Group C (and even more to Group A to be true to the analogy). Each member of Group A, B, & C should voluntarily give what they have from their own wealth to help others.

Too many people like yourself completely misconstrue Jesus' message when it comes to giving.

I'm sure Jesus would endorse the insane militarism and corporate whoring of modern conservative politicians.

Jesus: "Why do you worry about the plank in your brother's eye when you could be dropping ordinance on him from a distance of 15,000ft?"

 

[sirwoodz]

no friends, just co-workers, they're cool though.

my ex's pops was a republican (black), he was just a normal black dude with a black family and wife, no pictures of ronald reagan anywhere; had african art and motown/jazz in his CD collection...

up to that point i thought all black republicans acted like carleton and wished to be white

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

I had to delete a few Republican High school and College friends off Facebook over bullshit shit comments and pictures.

 

[BrainChild09]

I'm sure Jesus would endorse the insane militarism and corporate whoring of modern conservative politicians.

Jesus: "Why do you worry about the plank in your brother's eye when you could be dropping ordinance on him from a distance of 15,000ft?"

I don't understand how this is a response to what I said. I didn't advocate for militarism or corporate whoring of modern conservative politicians" at all with what I said nor did I imply that Jesus would either. Can you explain where you got the impression that I thought I or Jesus supports dropping bombs on people out of the posts I just made?

 

[MadWun]

Yes

Cool ass dude (black), but when it comes to politics, he watches Fox News, listens to Limbaugh and all that

We had a cookout recently, and this other dude who also knows him, but didn't know his politics told him straight up, that he was tripping supporting Romney.

The good thing: His ass can't vote since he is from Bermuda

 

[Atoosa]

I work in the DoD, mostly retired and former military. They are all mostly conservative, think they are the 1%. Most are very uneducated, galctically stupid, and rigid. I slap them with knowledge each time they say stupid shid so they avoid conversations unless they know what they are talking about.

 

[sharkbait28]

I don't understand how this is a response to what I said. I didn't advocate for militarism or corporate whoring of modern conservative politicians" at all with what I said nor did I imply that Jesus would either. Can you explain where you got the impression that I thought I or Jesus supports dropping bombs on people out of the posts I just made?

Honestly I didn't... just riffing on the silly idea that modern conservative thought could find any corollary to the principles Jesus was known for advocating.

Regardless of your personal beliefs... conservative philosophy (as popularly espoused by the GOP and ancillary media) has a contempt for the poor, lust for war and aggrandizement of the ultra-rich that seems really antithetical to anything Jesus might have been about.

 

[zack_morris83]

When I lived in Houston, I worked with so many cac republicans. They were cool until someone brought up politics. Half of them goes received govt assistance (i.e. financial aid) but talked plenty of shit about Obama. I reminded them that financial aid was from the govt, that would always trip'em up. Couldn't say shit after that.

 

[Better]

When I lived in Houston, I worked with so many cac republicans. They were cool until someone brought up politics. Half of them goes received govt assistance (i.e. financial aid) but talked plenty of shit about Obama. I reminded them that financial aid was from the govt, that would always trip'em up. Couldn't say shit after that.

That's because most voters are numbskulls.


Political parties are no different than gangs. Most stick with one party their entire life, and a few crossover to the other side for one reason or another.

All you see on BGOL everyday is "HAHAHAH ROMNEY IS SO FUCKING STUUPID!!!!!!!"

...and I'm pretty sure it's the same on conservative/CAC websites for Obama.

I'm an independent.

I don't like Obama nor Romney, but Obama is black soooo ... what am I supposed to do?

 

[BrainChild09]

Sharkbait,

I have a feeling this is going to lead to a "my side vs. your side" type thing which is ridiculous in my opinion. I personally don't feel that a person voting for another man to take from another person & give to yet another man whom the first person felt was in need satisfies Jesus call to charity. I don't think voting for the government to tax others whom you feel have enough wealth & give those people's wealth to those whom you feel do not have enough makes you a charitable person or living as Jesus demanded that "children of God" do, not even in terms of giving.

That doesn't mean I'm saying that Jesus would or would not support such government policies, I'm simply saying that to suggest that Jesus' words about each man needing to give to those in need was evidence, or better yet advocacy, for government welfare programs I think is mistaken. & I think people who believe they are living charitably by voting for politicians to raise their taxes with the expectation that those dollars go to fund government welfare are wrong. It doesn't mean that they aren't compassionate; I believe many are if not most who vote this way. But to believe that voting for politicians that support welfare programs comes anywhere close to what Jesus was talking about when he spoke of each person giving of themselves & "feeding the poor" is very wrong in my view. Again, it doesn't mean that it is necessarily wrong to support such programs in light of what Jesus said, but I believe he was talking about something much greater than this.

You're entitled to your opinion, I just don't feel like getting into another stupid "my side vs. your side" type debate that it seems like you are trying to set up. If you knew anything about my views you'd know that I'm very strongly opposed to US militarism & foreign intervention. You'd also know that I'm strongly opposed to government being in league with corporations & big business. But that's the straw man you were trying to set up.

Last thing I'll say about this is that even with the straw man you attempted to establish, it is telling that even the Democrats whom adamantly support the government welfare (the Republicans do as well but not as vocally & not always for the same people as the Dems), that they also support dropping ordinances on poor people from 15,000 feet in the air. President Obama (whom I believe is an incredibly intelligent, talented, and strong black man) has accelerated the bombing of targets & killing of innocents by the use of drones. But people talking this stuff about Jesus "philosophy" regarding giving clearly shows that he supported government welfare. They don't even question the fact that the most government "welfare" actually goes to the so-called middle-class. They don't even blush when they advocate the government to raise other people's taxes & keep theirs lower (i.e. keep the Bush tax cuts for those making under $200k or families making $250k & eliminate them for the rest). They still say this follows the teachings of Jesus. Then they vote for a man who is bombing the crap out of poor people half-way around the world. That is what allowing ourselves to stay stuck in this "Dems vs. Repubs/my side vs. your side" mindset has gotten us.

 

[doggish_098]

i went to bartending school and the first rules they taught us is you never discuss politics or religion... i try to use those rules in my daily life.

 

[EPDC]

No friends.....a few of CAC aquaintances at work though.

 

[Better]

...I have a very far right view of welfare, to be honest.


However, I attribute that entirely to growing up people who were getting it, and shouldn't have needed it.


You know how many people I knew growing up who bragged about not having to work?

Shit makes me sick to my stomach.


Or those bitches rolling through the grocery store with five kids and a cart filled with hot pockets, frozen pizzas, juice, and other unhealthy bullshit. I'm talking about cart about to spill over.


I tell people all the time: I don't feel sorry for poor people; I feel sorry for people who can't help being poor. Giving up on yourself is not the same as, being incapable of taking care of yourself and needing assistance. I know a family where everyone is getting checks. A mother with a three sons getting disability, and all these dudes do is sit in their yards all day, blasting the radio, and smoking weed. All of those dudes are grown.

 

[sharkbait28]

Sharkbait,

I have a feeling this is going to lead to a "my side vs. your side" type thing which is ridiculous in my opinion. I personally don't feel that a person voting for another man to take from another person & give to yet another man whom the first person felt was in need satisfies Jesus call to charity. I don't think voting for the government to tax others whom you feel have enough wealth & give those people's wealth to those whom you feel do not have enough makes you a charitable person or living as Jesus demanded that "children of God" do, not even in terms of giving.

That doesn't mean I'm saying that Jesus would or would not support such government policies, I'm simply saying that to suggest that Jesus' words about each man needing to give to those in need was evidence, or better yet advocacy, for government welfare programs I think is mistaken. & I think people who believe they are living charitably by voting for politicians to raise their taxes with the expectation that those dollars go to fund government welfare are wrong. It doesn't mean that they aren't compassionate; I believe many are if not most who vote this way. But to believe that voting for politicians that support welfare programs comes anywhere close to what Jesus was talking about when he spoke of each person giving of themselves & "feeding the poor" is very wrong in my view. Again, it doesn't mean that it is necessarily wrong to support such programs in light of what Jesus said, but I believe he was talking about something much greater than this.

You're entitled to your opinion, I just don't feel like getting into another stupid "my side vs. your side" type debate that it seems like you are trying to set up. If you knew anything about my views you'd know that I'm very strongly opposed to US militarism & foreign intervention. You'd also know that I'm strongly opposed to government being in league with corporations & big business. But that's the straw man you were trying to set up.

Last thing I'll say about this is that even with the straw man you attempted to establish, it is telling that even the Democrats whom adamantly support the government welfare (the Republicans do as well but not as vocally & not always for the same people as the Dems), that they also support dropping ordinances on poor people from 15,000 feet in the air. President Obama (whom I believe is an incredibly intelligent, talented, and strong black man) has accelerated the bombing of targets & killing of innocents by the use of drones. That is what allowing ourselves to stay stuck in this "Dems vs. Repubs/my side vs. your side" mindset has gotten us.

I can respect everything you wrote here Brainchild. Don't mind me... I poke fun but I can respect an honest (well informed) difference of opinion. If you check my post history you'll find that I'm severely critical of the fact that both parties are essentially corporate proxies at this point and the fact that both parties are committed to military interventionism as a means of extending American power in the world. For me it's really a lesser of two evils type-situation...I do think that there can be little debate about which party is worst though.

Having said all that, in the context of this thread it's worth noting that it's really incomplete to speak only in terms of welfare. If we accept that what we know about Jesus is "true" I can't see how modern conservative thought (and polemics) can be seen as being aligned with his message. Think of all the vitriol directed at those in poverty coming from the right, all the praise heaped upon the massively rich, all the bluster about war (although I can admit this difference is mostly tonal as Dems are quick to drop bombs too).

Overall I think you'll have a difficult time making the case that Republicans are "Jesus-like".

 

[EPDC]

...I have a very far right view of welfare, to be honest.


However, I attribute that entirely to growing up people who were getting it, and shouldn't have needed it.


You know how many people I knew growing up who bragged about not having to work?

Shit makes me sick to my stomach.


Or those bitches rolling through the grocery store with five kids and a cart filled with hot pockets, frozen pizzas, juice, and other unhealthy bullshit. I'm talking about cart about to spill over.


I tell people all the time: I don't feel sorry for poor people; I feel sorry for people who can't help being poor. Giving up on yourself is not the same as, being incapable of taking care of yourself and needing assistance. I know a family where everyone is getting checks. A mother with a three sons getting disability, and all these dudes do is sit in their yards all day, blasting the radio, and smoking weed.

real talk, I feel the same way.....I think many of us do honestly. America is probably the only country in the world where the poor are fatter than the rich. Poor folks here don't starve....they just eat like shit.

 

[doggish_098]

if you and all your friends share the same views are you really friends or are you just "yes men" to each other

 

[BrainChild09]

I can respect everything you wrote here Brainchild. Don't mind me... I poke fun but I can respect an honest (well informed) difference of opinion. If you check my post history you'll find that I'm severely critical of the fact that both parties are essentially corporate proxies at this point and the fact that both parties are committed to military interventionism as a means of extending American power in the world. For me it's really a lesser of two evils type-situation...I do think that there can be little debate about which party is worst though.

Having said all that, in the context of this thread it's worth noting that it's really incomplete to speak only in terms of welfare. If we accept that what we know about Jesus is "true" than I can't see how modern conservative thought (and polemics) can be seen as being aligned with his message. Think of all the vitriol directed at those in poverty coming from the right, all the praise heaped upon the massively rich, all the bluster about war (although I can admit this difference is mostly tonal as Dems are quick to drop bombs too).

Overall I think you'll have a difficult time making the case that Republicans are "Jesus-like".

The Republican Party with a capital R certainly doesn't express much of the message of Jesus. I don't think the Democratic Party with a capital D does either. Neither one the parties are "Jesus-like" in my opinion.

We differ on what we think is the solution to many of society's problems but I'm glad we could avoid going to into some "my side vs. your side" nonsense here.