Dodgers, Angels, Yankees account for 25% of all blacks in baseball, total is 8%

[SNYC]

This really falls into where you grew up. When I was growing up the sport choices was baseball, football then basketball. I never got the chance toss a basketball against a real backboard until I got to high school.

The problem today is kids today have other options. While kids today play video games all day long I was on the ball field all day long. Its truly a different era. But as I said earlier its not entirely the fault of baseball. Parents are lazy after a day at work they would rather kick up their heels, not take junior to practice. But we as parents need to get our kids away from the TV and into sports.

into studying

and truthfully, it's not that serious that there's not enough non latin blacks in baseball. they didnt want us to play, and now it's not enough. funny how that goes when you need a boost

and just in case you're wondering..

havent even used this bat, dont really care to play got dominican co-workers nagging me to play softball with them though

 

[Moore]

Young Black American kids have access to a world of sports out there yet they limit themselves to two.

 

[SNYC]

Young Black American kids have a world of sports out there yet they limit themselves to two.

so, what's stopping the non-american/non-latin blacks living in the states

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

good post op

imo If 'black' players aren't being discriminated against then why is this a story... I don't want them putting bums on the field [like they do in the NBA] just to please some fans... we don't have to be in every sport all the damn time for their to 'racial harmony' ...

This is how i feel as well. If they don't care about it, why is it a need for concern?

There's so few baseball fields around its pathetic. When I was growing up there were fields all over the place and they were within walking distance but not any more.

I haven't seen but one field since I've been here. Part of the problem is in little league parents were expected to participate. This meant taking a roll with the kids. Having been a coach I can tell you parents reviled in dropping off their kids knowing they had a few hours a free time.

I think people still like baseball but baseball has another problem. Cost is also killing the game. Bleacher seats are now $12 & $15 those seats are far from good. Now lets say its a family of 4. $48 to $60 and we've had nothing to eat or drink. Still not bad but what if you want better seats? Infield seats will now run you $200 to $300 a game. Times 4 = $800 to $1200 for 1 game.

But MLB must approach all the cities and get some ball fields built.

As a parent who has kids in various activities (and they did tball) i've never been asked to participate in it. You have lots of open fields in Texas. Lots of parks. Everywhere you look there's an open lot. I don't believe it's an issue like that. Football games are expensive too. I'm telling you it's more grassroots than that. It starts with the fathers, i'm convinced of this. Lack of black fathers, lack of black sons interested.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Young Black American kids have access to a world of sports out there yet they limit themselves to two.

I believe in exposing kids to different things, but you've still got to account for what they like. I'm sorry but it's the nature of CHILDREN to like excitment. To like running and jumping and diving. Tumbling around on the ground. It's what boys do. They like testing their mettle. You're not testing much mettle standing in a field waiting for a ball to be hit your way and it just may never come.

 

[Brother Blues]

I have said this in other threads about the lack of blacks in baseball.

The sport is simply not a cool sport to play.

My son is typical.As an 11/12 year old he played little league...and we would drive past other black kids hanging at the Y.The games were right behind the Y,yet he was one of the few black kids playing.

Then in high school,he didn't want to play...would rather lift weights in the spring to get ready for fall football,than to be outside playing baseball.

And of course...all the girls are at the football games,while baseball is played before friends and family.

 

[EPDC]

MLB and Little League should have greater visibility in "urban" areas, and not just in cities with Major league teams but in cities with minor league affiliations. Baseball, unlike hockey, is a relatively inexpensive sport to play. As posted above, build those ballparks and have stars (even scrubs) have clinics and/or camps and kids will fill them.

 

[thareezen]

i used to play baseball but football and basketball were just more appealing. i haven't really paid attention to baseball untill my cousing got drafted.

 

[jasonblacc]

@ hiphop killing blacks interest in baseball. Footballs popularity and AIU basketball killed urban baseball.

 

[doggish_098]

@ hiphop killing blacks interest in baseball. Footballs popularity and AIU basketball killed urban baseball.

the hiphop culture may have had something to do with the death of baseball... everything that is marketed towards kids and young adults today has to seem "cool" you try to sell me a car you have the tightest track from one of the best producers playing in the background. baseball just hasn't found a way to market itself as being cool. until they do that you will continue to see a decline in the numbers. Hell in a few years I am almost willing to bet anything there will be stories of what happened to all the white baseball players too. remember hiphop is more than the shitty rap music they play on the radio these days

 

[jasonblacc]

the hiphop culture may have had something to do with the death of baseball... everything that is marketed towards kids and young adults today has to seem "cool" you try to sell me a car you have the tightest track from one of the best producers playing in the background. baseball just hasn't found a way to market itself as being cool. until they do that you will continue to see a decline in the numbers. Hell in a few years I am almost willing to bet anything there will be stories of what happened to all the white baseball players too. remember hiphop is more than the shitty rap music they play on the radio these days

No hiphop had nothing to do with it. The marketing great black baseball players are to blame. Other subway what other prmotion do black MLB players get?

 

[Damn Right]

I'm not defending baseball but how many of you brothers own a baseball glove? A baseball or a baseball bat? What about your son's, nephews or cousins or your friends? How far away from you is the nearest ball field? But I'll bet you all have owned Play Stations and or a X-Boxes.

Its not totally the fault of baseball. Its choices that we've made. I can't remember the last time I've seen our boys at any age playing catch.

/thread.

u don't see brothers out there playin baseball like they did back in the day. sheit, ain't even anywhere for um to PLAY really if you're a lil kid. used to be neighborhood and local baseball diamonds that were kept up by the city. city run leagues and sheit. budget cuts have put an end to that sheit mostly. unless you can pay the local 'extras' that some cities require in communities to keep sheit like baseball diamonds up and running. gotta have neighborhood support too. paying for uniforms and incidentals to keep the team running ain't easy for a lot of folks these days.

u don't see many brothers going out for baseball in jr. high or high school or seriously trying to get in the majors anymore

 

[Mo-Better]

This is how i feel as well. If they don't care about it, why is it a need for concern?



As a parent who has kids in various activities (and they did tball) i've never been asked to participate in it. You have lots of open fields in Texas. Lots of parks. Everywhere you look there's an open lot. I don't believe it's an issue like that. Football games are expensive too. I'm telling you it's more grassroots than that. It starts with the fathers, i'm convinced of this. Lack of black fathers, lack of black sons interested.

In some ways your experiences were the exception, I'm not knocking it I think its great. Texas is a huge state one I'm sure can easily accommodate a few ball fields. But in many cities across this nation if the right realtor comes along with a project that guarantees tax revenues that field is history.

Baseball knows it has a problem. See the article I posted earlier with Hank Aaron addressing his concerns. An Harold Reynolds from the MLB channel has also spoken out on this subject. He stated a couple of years ago that in a few years the majority of non whites in the league would be Latino. Change will probably start with a new marketing campaign. Its obvious MLB has an image problem.

An I agree with you 100% that the lack of responsible black fathers isn't helping. But this reinforces my earlier comment about the blame extends beyond baseball.

An again I'm not arguing on behalf of MLB. It will be interesting to see how or if MLB can resolve this problem.

Funny thing is I remember when the NBA had this problem.

 

[doggish_098]

No hiphop had nothing to do with it. The marketing great black baseball players are to blame. Other subway what other prmotion do black MLB players get?

there are plenty of black baseball players in ad campaigns but none of those campaigns are "cool" the players are not showing their "swag" all the things that hiphop tells the kids and young adults how they are suppose to act are not represented in baseball marketing.

Now when you go to the ball parks to watch the games you will see the home players coming up to bat playing some of your favorite shitty rap from the radio.


it definitely isnt the only reason but it is one of the reasons

 

[doggish_098]

In some ways your experiences were the exception, I'm not knocking it I think its great. Texas is a huge state one I'm sure can easily accommodate a few ball fields. But in many cities across this nation if the right realtor comes along with a project that guarantees tax revenues that field is history.

Baseball knows it has a problem. See the article I posted earlier with Hank Aaron addressing his concerns. An Harold Reynolds from the MLB channel has also spoken out on this subject. He stated a couple of years ago that in a few years the majority of non whites in the league would be Latino. Change will probably start with a new marketing campaign. Its obvious MLB has an image problem.

An I agree with you 100% that the lack of responsible black fathers isn't helping. But this reinforces my earlier comment about the blame extends beyond baseball.

An again I'm not arguing on behalf of MLB. It will be interesting to see how or if MLB can resolve this problem.

Funny thing is I remember when the NBA had this problem.

current players have pointed out that you do need to introduced to the game and the lack of fathers or father like figures in our community is declining rapidly.


you know MLB is trying with this whole RBI program but i guarantee there won't be a major push or concern from them until about 3-5 years from now when foreign players completely take over the league and the number of white ball players are at an all time low.

 

[jasonblacc]

there are plenty of black baseball players in ad campaigns but none of those campaigns are "cool" the players are not showing their "swag" all the things that hiphop tells the kids and young adults how they are suppose to act are not represented in baseball marketing.

Now when you go to the ball parks to watch the games you will see the home players coming up to bat playing some of your favorite shitty rap from the radio.


it definitely isnt the only reason but it is one of the reasons

Name some? I dont do Jeter.

 

[jasonblacc]

CC Sabthia probably will end up with 330 wins and 3000 K's. Maybe go down as top 5 black pitcher all time. Does baseball market him? No. Matt Kemp is one of the Best player in MLB is he promoted? No. How about when Jimmy Rollins was MVP was he promoted? No. Davis Price? No. McClutchen? No.


Baseball has substituted Black players for latins much like the NBA has substituted white foeriegn players for American born White players.

 

[deputy dawg]

CC Sabthia probably will end up with 330 wins and 3000 K's. Maybe go down as top 5 black pitcher all time. Does baseball market him? No. Matt Kemp is one of the Best player in MLB is he promoted? No. How about when Jimmy Rollins was MVP was he promoted? No. Davis Price? No. McClutchen? No.


Baseball has substituted Black players for latins much like the NBA has substituted white foeriegn players for American born White players.

WTF are you talking about? TEAMS promote players to drive attendance to their games, NOT MLB. When you see promos on TV, it's done with the hottest player(s) on each team opposing each other. I know - I did those promos for ESPN. CC gets promos and attention in NYC, Kemp in LA, Rollins in Philly, etc. Why hype up Matt Kemp in Boston? It's not gonna put asses in the seats in Boston. It's how business works, man.

 

[jasonblacc]

WTF are you talking about? TEAMS promote players to drive attendance to their games, NOT MLB. When you see promos on TV, it's done with the hottest player(s) on each team opposing each other. I know - I did those promos for ESPN. CC gets promos and attention in NYC, Kemp in LA, Rollins in Philly, etc. Why hype up Matt Kemp in Boston? It's not gonna put asses in the seats in Boston. It's how business works, man.

I'm not talking about teams. Im talking baseball as whole. MLB NOT INDIVISUAL TEAMS.

 

[doggish_098]

CC Sabthia probably will end up with 330 wins and 3000 K's. Maybe go down as top 5 black pitcher all time. Does baseball market him? No. Matt Kemp is one of the Best player in MLB is he promoted? No. How about when Jimmy Rollins was MVP was he promoted? No. Davis Price? No. McClutchen? No.


Baseball has substituted Black players for latins much like the NBA has substituted white foeriegn players for American born White players.

pitch me your ad campaign on how baseball could market CC to make him look cool to little black kids in the hood and suburbia

 

[Diamels]

When is the last time you seen a baseball player's poster on somebody's wall?

 

[jasonblacc]

pitch me your ad campaign on how baseball could market CC to make him look cool to little black kids in the hood and suburbia

Why would I do that? I'm not an advertisement Excutive.

 

[H.A.N]

When is the last time you seen a baseball player's poster on somebody's wall?

Yesterday at my sister and brother in law's home. My nephew has Juan Pierre, Matt Kemp, Prince Fielder, David Ortiz , Jimmy Rollins and a few others cards, jerseys and fat heads.

 

[Diamels]

Yesterday at my sister and brother in law's home. My nephew has Juan Pierre, Matt Kemp, Prince Fielder, David Ortiz , Jimmy Rollins and a few others cards, jerseys and fat heads.

Wow next you will be telling me that the kids have Tiger Woods and Bubba Watson posters too

 

[H.A.N]

pitch me your ad campaign on how baseball could market CC to make him look cool to little black kids in the hood and suburbia

Get a baseball, bat and glove after that go to a park and play. Its not fucking physics. Hell I take my nephew and his boy to the batting cages. My brothers, My Dad my nephews and my nephews friends we all go to the ball park and shag some fly baseballs. We also go golf as well.


Being cool within our community is the main problem. Wanna be cool sell dope so chicks can like u. Wanna be cool have sex with as many women as you can to prove your manhood. From that outcome you broken homes, and child support payments, and a dysfunctional relationship between the parents who created the child.

 

[H.A.N]

Wow next you will be telling me that the kids have Tiger Woods and Bubba Watson posters too

Nigga shut up. I know what my nephew and his friends enjoy sports wise. They love baseball. No smart ass I have Tiger Woods cards, a few books, his Nike Apparel and his golf umbrella. The way you brothas stan lie cry and die over Jordan I'm a fan/supporter of Tiger Woods. I buy new Tiger Woods golf shoes every season.

 

[jasonblacc]

Nigga shut up. I know what my nephew and his friends enjoy sports wise. They love baseball. No smart ass I have Tiger Woods cards, a few books, his Nike Apparel and his golf umbrella. The way you brothas stan lie cry and die over Jordan I'm a fan/supporter of Tiger Woods. I buy new Tiger Woods golf shoes every season.

Coontries

 

[H.A.N]

Coontries




U have braids like a bitch yet u starting nonsense. Cut those bitch braids out of your head you will think differently.

 

[jasonblacc]

Coontries




U have braids like a bitch yet u starting nonsense. Cut those bitch braids out of your head you will think differently.

how about you post some of things you have...post your passport and I'll post mines. Post your car and I'll post mines.

 

[doggish_098]

Why would I do that? I'm not an advertisement Excutive.

You don't have to be an executive to have ideas. Do what would you do to make cc look cool to kids?????


Ryan Howard has the most ad campaigns on the Phillies and non of them are cool imo

 

[H.A.N]

how about you post some of things you have...post your passport and I'll post mines. Post your car and I'll post mines.

What the fuck are u 12? So this will prove what exactly? I don't care to see your country ass clothes. I'm not here to impress you clowns. I impress myself daily. unlike you I don't dress for hoes, nor wear cologne for hoes. I do it for me, myself and I. I'm out the game. My black velvet slippers and velvet smoking jacket have been retired.

Get the fuck out with your bitch braids. You coming off real bitchmade. I have a 6:30 tee time I'm in route for. Good day young lady.

 

[Diamels]

Nigga shut up. OHHH! So I am a nigga now? I love how you like to group all the board members all in one group and generalize, by the way I am black. I know what my nephew and his friends enjoy sports wise. They love baseball. No smart ass I have Tiger Woods cards, a few books, his Nike Apparel and his golf umbrella. The way you brothas stan lie cry and die over Jordan I'm a fan/supporter of Tiger Woods. I buy new Tiger Woods golf shoes every season. Damn Ross Perot I would have thought that you be above clumping everybody into one group but I see the self-hating part of your persona has prevented you from really rising above generalizing and stereotypes...

 

[jasonblacc]

What the fuck are u 12? So this will prove what exactly? I don't care to see your country ass clothes. I'm not here to impress you clowns. I impress myself daily. unlike you I don't dress for hoes, nor wear cologne for hoes. I do it for me, myself and I. I'm out the game. My black velvet slippers and velvet smoking jacket have been retired.

Get the fuck out with your bitch braids. You coming off real bitchmade. I have a 6:30 tee time I'm in route for. Good day young lady.

you fuckin coon as clown bitch. Why is it when you post things you claim to have there pics from a internet site. why cant you post what you have? You fucking coon demon. You live a pathetic life.

 

[H.A.N]

you fuckin coon as clown bitch. Why is it when you post things you claim to have there pics from a internet site. why cant you post what you have? You fucking coon demon. You live a pathetic life.

Because I don't feel the need to impress u clown ass niggas. Your mother is a coon. You are 30+ with braids like a bitch. Your soul is pathetic. I don't claim I know what I've bought. If You believe me or you don't that's on your beauty shop loving ass. I can tell u came from ghetto. You always wanna see some shit. Me I take you at your word. You and your boys in real life call each other up and brag while drinking apple martinis about what u bought at the mall. Posting items from my home is quite gay to impress a bunch of screen names. You can die today and I won't give a fuck. I truly won't give a shit.

Fuck out of here u faggot.

 

[mike123]

baseball is boring anyway

/thread