THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....

[Upgrade Dave]

No i don't get mad but in wrestling you have to play along because as Stone Cold has said "It's a worked business". Wrestling is like a fraternity but just like life there are some people who are whiny bitches, and i think the WWE does have a few of them.

Tna is good when they're not overloading it with 2min matches that don't advance anything, and right now they're doing a good job especially Roode & Buh Buh Ray(calfe zilla)

Calfzilla is the funniest shit going. He sounds so serious, talking about "Look at my calves!", grabbing the cameraman and everything. But he turns from funny to serious like nobody else and loses all the time but gets his heat back like an old school heel by talking shit on the mic like he won.

While waiting for the Motor City MachineGuns, they need to bring in some more tag teams. Joe and Magnus are surprisingly good but they're going to need some other teams to work with. There are plenty of teams on the indies so I hope someone gets on that quickly.

For a little balance
I HATE the Garrett Bishop shit. If he wants to wrestle, fine, good luck. But he's had his little moment, now send him to OVW and let him work some indies to improve and let him do jobs on Impact! and Xplosion.

 

[dirtyd]

While waiting for the Motor City MachineGuns, they need to bring in some more tag teams. Joe and Magnus are surprisingly good but they're going to need some other teams to work with. There are plenty of teams on the indies so I hope someone gets on that quickly.

For a little balance
I HATE the Garrett Bishop shit. If he wants to wrestle, fine, good luck. But he's had his little moment, now send him to OVW and let him work some indies to improve and let him do jobs on Impact! and Xplosion.

Velvet Sky is bad luck because since Sabin has been with her his career has dragged, and that was before the injury and Helms still hasn't been the same As for GB you're not the only one and that is a perfect example of why nepotism is not always good for wrestling.

That'd his old thing. I think its supposed to represent hustle loyalty respect .But I remember him doing that back in his thuganomics days.

He use to do the word life sign with his thumb & pinky but now he uses the 3D sign. I didn't care until the camo shorts came into play and that's when i

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Velvet Sky is bad luck because since Sabin has been with her his career has dragged, and that was before the injury and Helms still hasn't been the same As for GB you're not the only one and that is a perfect example of why nepotism is not always good for wrestling.

Who would think that the one mistake Bill Watts made in WCW, Eric would be making in TNA by pushing and overexposing his kid WAY too early? Even if he gets really good, like Erik Watts did, it'll be too late because people will hold this early push against him.

He use to do the word life sign with his thumb & pinky but now he uses the 3D sign. I didn't care until the camo shorts came into play and that's when i

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

It's not perfect (last week they spent way too much time on bullshit) but they've really stepped up their game in almost every aspect. Two Knockout matches on the same show? Wow. Divas are hating like hell..

The KOs are usually the highest rated segment on Impact (especially since the emergence of Brook Tessmacher)

She has taken Velvet's spot (Velvet is seen as lazy and has made NO significant improvement, while Brooke continues to market herself.)

I just wish they would spread it out a little more. There's no reason RVD, Pope, and Devon aren't on tv more often and have their own issues.

They need a brand split and do something with that hour of Xplosion. Make the TV title as the main belt there and move 10 wrestlers that aren't doing shit over to fight over it.

You know I'm against these weekly faceoffs anyway but I know WWE tries to use all the current media to their advantage so I'm not bothered by it.

I said it before. I want more training vigenettes.

I'll look at the TNA title again. I like the belt, personally.

I put the AWA title right behind the first two on your list.

This one or the big silver belt?

BTW, I HATE the big gold belt now. everyone copies it.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

The KOs are usually the highest rated segment on Impact (especially since the emergence of Brook Tessmacher)

It's been that way back when Kong was feuding with Gail and even when Angelina was champ. TNA fans are really into the KOs and having Gail working as champ is our reward.

She has taken Velvet's spot (Velvet is seen as lazy and has made NO significant improvement, while Booke continues to market herself.)

I have to disagree with this idea. Velvet used to be really bad and they, smartly, only had her in tag matches but she is the most improved of the KOs. But I am impressed with Brooke and her improvement.

They need a brand split and do something with that hour of Xplosion. Make the TV title as the main belt there and move 10 wrestlers that aren't doing shit over to fight over it.

Not a brand split but they need to use Xplosion better and feature more angles and notable matches there and talk about them on Impact!.

I said it before. I want more training vigenettes.

Those look intense, like a guy training for a big match.

This one or the big silver belt?

That one. The one Bockwinkel, Hennig, and Lawler wore.
There's another one?

 

[Simply Sickenin']

Backstage News on Barrett's WWE Future and MITB
Date Added: March 16, 2012
Story By: Marc Middleton
Source: PWInsider

WWE officials are hoping that Wade Barrett will be back in action by July so they can feature him prominently at SummerSlam.

Before Barrett went down with an injury, he was scheduled to win Money in the Bank at WrestleMania 28 and challenge CM Punk for the WWE Title.

The Money in the Bank match may be moved to SummerSlam this year just so Barrett can win it and begin the push, feuding with CM Punk for the WWE Title going into the fall.

Looks like they're really looking to push Barrett this year. Hopefully they won't drop the ball on this one. And I kind of like the idea of moving MITB to SummerSlam. They should have just left it at Mania, but it too late to cry over spilled milk. I rather them move the match to SS instead of having the PPV with 2 MITB matches.​

Lionsgate and WWE Prep 'Leprechaun' Reboot
Date Added: March 16, 2012
Source: Spill.cpm

As today seems to be another entry in the continuing adventures of "What Will Hollywood Remake Today?", it has been announced that Lionsgate Entertainment, in conjunction with WWE Studios, plans to relaunch the 'Leprechaun' horror series, with eyes towards a 2013 release. The original 'Leprechaun' in 1993 gave us our first exposure to Jennifer Aniston, spawned six (wait... seriously? *checks again* yes, SIX) sequels, and in general made us all a little bit more uneasy around people shorter than 4 feet tall.

Starring the incredible Warwick Davis ('Willow', 'Harry Potter'), the film centered around an angry and violent leprechaun who sets out to recover his pot of gold from anyone foolish enough to steal it. There's no word as to whether Davis will once again reprise his role as The Leprechaun, or whether a new actor will be brought in to fill his tiny buckled shoes. However, considering that this is a joint venture with WWE Studios, it will likely feature a professional wrestler in a starring role (since all their films do).

WWE CEO Vince McMahon and Film Division Lead Michael Luisi had this to say:

"We have been looking for ways to continue our relationship with Lionsgate and we saw 'Leprechaun' as the perfect opportunity to take a well-known franchise and put a modern-day spin on it. This is a property that we believe our audience will respond to and we continue to look for ways to surprise and engage them."

I'll just go ahead and say it .... Hornswoggle in the lead role ​

 

[dirtyd]

It's been that way back when Kong was feuding with Gail and even when Angelina was champ. TNA fans are really into the KOs and having Gail working as champ is our reward.

I still don't get what Vince was thinking I mean she did kind of half ass it in the ring at times, but some of the main event guys do that as well. I think we all know that she acted that way because she knew they had no plans for her, but she collected 150k a year i believe so really she won.

I have to disagree with this idea. Velvet used to be really bad and they, smartly, only had her in tag matches but she is the most improved of the KOs. But I am impressed with Brooke and her improvement.

I agree to an extent that she's gotten better but her matches still feel like they move half speed. Everything in her match is telegraphed and it makes everything predictable.

 

[J.U.S.T.I.C.E]

ive been following this thread for a while now and all the talk about the comparison of good promos to the bad ones of today reminded me of this vid

 

[J.U.S.T.I.C.E]

Is there a real reason why its not cm punk vs rock at wrestlemania instead of cena? id rather see those two shooting on each other, and cm punk took plenty of shots at rock over the lat year so rock would definitely build the same promos he did for cena towards punk

 

[Simply Sickenin']

ive been following this thread for a while now and all the talk about the comparison of good promos to the bad ones of today reminded me of this vid

I miss Paul Heyman being on tv. ​

 

[c_commander]

Is there a real reason why its not cm punk vs rock at wrestlemania instead of cena? id rather see those two shooting on each other, and cm punk took plenty of shots at rock over the lat year so rock would definitely build the same promos he did for cena towards punk

Easy Cena is the bigger star and Punk didn't blow up until after the Cena-Rock match was already scheduled.

 

[THE DRIZZY]

Another blast from the past. The great old school masked wrestler and highly underrated. The Spoiler.

 

[THE DRIZZY]

How about a young heel JYD vs. a young babyface Jake The Snake Roberts from 1979.

 

[vandamation]

Another blast from the past. The great old school masked wrestler and highly underrated. The Spoiler.

Gary Hart tells a story about Don Jardine AKA The Spoiler...

 

[dirtyd]

@JohnCena

Quote:http://twitvid.com/BVK2N - As smart as @therock may be... He dont know squat! 500lbs for 5 #WM28

Quote:http://twitvid.com/O4YFD - Making sure im clean for @therock at #WM28 315 pound clean at end of day

Quote:http://twitvid.com/EVUPG - This is why @therock thinks i got #ladyparts cause he heard i had a strong #snatch 225lb #WM28

Quote: This is best moment of my day. All of @therock material. #cenation #fruitypebbles #cenasmom love u moms http://via.me/-f1epyi

Quote: Oh and @therock my mom is sweet but tough and says if yer starving for #sex that bad.. Then go f#ck yourself #WM28 #mymomwouldwhipya

Ok Dave do you agree now that the twitter feud needs to stop

 

[NightMare Paint]

That nigga said

Quote:http://twitvid.com/EVUPG - This is why @therock thinks i got #ladyparts cause he heard i had a strong #snatch 225lb #WM28

Good God...

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

I miss Paul Heyman being on tv. ​

Did you ever hear his plan for rebuilding TNA? He wanted to use existing stars to build new ones and eventually phase the oner ones out. Dixie didn't want to hear that.

Ok Dave do you agree now that the twitter feud needs to stop

Didn't Cena say he didn't take any of the Rock's comments personal?

That being said, I LOVE watching the training stuff, especially Cena because he's one of the few wrestlers that I see powerlift.

 

[Tech]

Watch them titties shake...forget the other stuff.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Shoot interview by Bad New Brown on Andre:

 

[dirtyd]

Did you ever hear his plan for rebuilding TNA? He wanted to use existing stars to build new ones and eventually phase the oner ones out. Hogan didn't want to hear that.

TNA is watchable now but if Heyman were there it would be a lot more structured.

Didn't Cena say he didn't take any of the Rock's comments personal?

That being said, I LOVE watching the training stuff, especially Cena because he's one of the few wrestlers that I see powerlift.

Funny how he mentioned all that but left out Eve As for the videos i was never really a fan of seeing wrestlers lift weights, but i did like the Rock vs Brock montages for their Summer Slam match. The videos made the match feel more important, and as always much credit to the WWE production staff

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

This was a good training video as well:

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I still don't get what Vince was thinking I mean she did kind of half ass it in the ring at times, but some of the main event guys do that as well. I think we all know that she acted that way because she knew they had no plans for her, but she collected 150k a year i believe so really she won.

He just wanted her to hurt TNA and once she figured that out, she half assed it.

I agree to an extent that she's gotten better but her matches still feel like they move half speed. Everything in her match is telegraphed and it makes everything predictable.

That's my problem with her too. It's too bad there aren't more of the old girls around like Moolah or Leilani Kai or Judy Martin or Sherri Martel to teach her and a lot of the younger women how to really rough it up and not look so staged and choreographed.

Ok Dave do you agree now that the twitter feud needs to stop

Nah, let them go. There's an audience for that shit. If you hadn't shown it to me, I never would have seen it so I clearly am not in that audience.

Did you ever hear his plan for rebuilding TNA? He wanted to use existing stars to build new ones and eventually phase the oner ones out. Dixie didn't want to hear that.

That's how you're supposed to run a wrestling promotion anyway. But Dixie, while a nice woman and seemingly a competent executive, isn't a wrestling person so she's extremely vulnerable to snakeoil salesmen like Hogan, Bischoff, and Russo, at least two of which were plotting against Heyman from the beginning.

Didn't Cena say he didn't take any of the Rock's comments personal?

That being said, I LOVE watching the training stuff, especially Cena because he's one of the few wrestlers that I see powerlift.

I don't see him taking anything personal in this, just playing along and trying to come back as best as he can.

Cena's a powerhouse and has to be one of the strongest guys in the business.

 

[dirtyd]

Nah, let them go. There's an audience for that shit. If you hadn't shown it to me, I never would have seen it so I clearly am not in that audience.

I wouldn't have known either but someone else posted it on a wrestling forum and they were clowning him.

I don't see him taking anything personal in this, just playing along and trying to come back as best as he can.

2 Weeks away from Mania it's time to stop with the jokes from both sides, he could easily not say anything but he keeps making himself look corny and "strong snatch"

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

It's been that way back when Kong was feuding with Gail and even when Angelina was champ. TNA fans are really into the KOs and having Gail working as champ is our reward.

Yes. The women looked good but thanks to Dutch Mantell they put on good matches.

I have to disagree with this idea. Velvet used to be really bad and they, smartly, only had her in tag matches but she is the most improved of the KOs. But I am impressed with Brooke and her improvement.

Brooke is the most improved, IMO. Velvet is lazy and let herself go. Karen Jarrett mentioned it later on. She just doesn't train, and the Beautiful People was the best thing to happen to her because they surrounded her with better wrestlers like Madison Rayne and Angelina Love so it hid how much she sucked.

Not a brand split but they need to use Xplosion better and feature more angles and notable matches there and talk about them on Impact!.

Actually Xplosion was specifically for the UK marked, which is why the TV title was originally the Global title (a 'Euro' belt more or less.) There were rumors of a tournament with a title exclusive to Xplosion where the winner of that title gets a title shot, but I don't know what happened with that. Anyway they could buld a roster around Joe, the Pope, Doug Williams and have a great hour show of hard hitting wrestling without all the talking. But they need to get it on US TV.

Those look intense, like a guy training for a big match.

Yep. To me if the WWE wants people to see how serious Cena is about beating Rock as he says, we'd see more off these.

That one. The one Bockwinkel, Hennig, and Lawler wore.
There's another one?

This is the one Stan Hansen took to Japan when he stiffed the AWA:

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

I still don't get what Vince was thinking I mean she did kind of half ass it in the ring at times, but some of the main event guys do that as well. I think we all know that she acted that way because she knew they had no plans for her, but she collected 150k a year i believe so really she won.

Because McMahon doesn't like Women's wrestling. That is why he hires cookie-cutter models and teaches them how to wrestle instead of established wrestlers that paid their dues. Quite a few female wrestlers that wrestled for the WWE have been complaining about the directions the Diva's division is going in.

 

[c_commander]

Because McMahon doesn't like Women's wrestling. That is why he hires cookie-cutter models and teaches them how to wrestle instead of established wrestlers that paid their dues. Quite a few female wrestlers that wrestled for the WWE have been complaining about the directions the Diva's division is going in.

And that's why the Knockouts have done better because they aren't cookie cutter and as long they aren't presented that way they should be okay. And the thing is that TNA has been able to build a roster of competent female wrestlers, who are distinct and on top of that by and large they are better looking than WWE's group of female sports entertainers.

 

[dirtyd]

And that's why the Knockouts have done better because they aren't cookie cutter and as long they aren't presented that way they should be okay. And the thing is that TNA has been able to build a roster of competent female wrestlers, who are distinct and on top of that by and large they are better looking than WWE's group of female sports entertainers.

Although to be fair TNA has missed the boat on some like Hamada & Roxxi. Im always leery of TNA because Gail is on top now but it always seems like whenever they sign someone from the WWE they let them reign for a while, then start to push them to the back burner before they just give up on them. Mickie came in with a lot of fanfare but it didn't take long for them to lose interest.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

2 Weeks away from Mania it's time to stop with the jokes from both sides, he could easily not say anything but he keeps making himself look corny and "strong snatch"

Agreed but they've decided to head down this path and we're stuck with it. Vince wants witty banter with a splash of seriousness and that's what we're going to get.

Brooke is the most improved, IMO. Velvet is lazy and let herself go. Karen Jarrett mentioned it later on. She just doesn't train, and the Beautiful People was the best thing to happen to her because they surrounded her with better wrestlers like Madison Rayne and Angelina Love so it hid how much she sucked.

I don't see where she's let herself go but I agree that they hid her in a tag team for a reason, just like any smart promotion would do and like they did Brooke. But she's far from that now, in the ring and on the mic. Brooke is a step behind her but not by much. She's the most improved lately because she had so much further to go.


[QUOTEActually Xplosion was specifically for the UK marked, which is why the TV title was originally the Global title (a 'Euro' belt more or less.) There were rumors of a tournament with a title exclusive to Xplosion where the winner of that title gets a title shot, but I don't know what happened with that. Anyway they could buld a roster around Joe, the Pope, Doug Williams and have a great hour show of hard hitting wrestling without all the talking. But they need to get it on US TV.[/QUOTE]

That's my point. I know how they use it, I just think they could get more out of it. Every now and then they mention something happening on Xplosion but they should use it more frequently.

This is the one Stan Hansen took to Japan when he stiffed the AWA:

Yeah, that's one ugly belt. Hansen did them a favor by running it over with his tractor.

Because McMahon doesn't like Women's wrestling. That is why he hires cookie-cutter models and teaches them how to wrestle instead of established wrestlers that paid their dues. Quite a few female wrestlers that wrestled for the WWE have been complaining about the directions the Diva's division is going in.

It would mean more if it wasn't Maria and Maryse, two horrible wrestlers who only got on because Laurinaitis thought they looked good in their gear.

Although to be fair TNA has missed the boat on some like Hamada & Roxxi. Im always leery of TNA because Gail is on top now but it always seems like whenever they sign someone from the WWE they let them reign for a while, then start to push them to the back burner before they just give up on them. Mickie came in with a lot of fanfare but it didn't take long for them to lose interest.

You notice about the time Hogan and Bischoff came in and Dutch, Cornette, and Savio Vega left, the KOs fell apart? That's when they just shoved Kong, Hamada, Daffney, and Sarita to the side and lesser KOs like Angelina and Madison were shoved down our throats. But the ratings stayed high for their segments, so I don't know.
We went from those matches where Taylor Wilde and Daffney were taking bumps in barbed wire to boring Madison-Angelina matches that never seemed to end.
I think they're missing the boat on Winter right now too. She came in hot and now she and Angelina arent even a tag team anymore.

Halfway through Victory Road and the Crimson turn is on the way but I hope they wait until Lockdown to do it. Let him and Morgan lose one more time to Joe and Magnus and let him "Dusty" Morgan in the cage.
Started off good but I'll let you know if it holds up.

Nevermind, Crimson turned. I hope they don't rush them into a cage at Lockdown but I'm sure they will.

 

[dirtyd]

Agreed but they've decided to head down this path and we're stuck with it. Vince wants witty banter with a splash of seriousness and that's what we're going to get.

Well can we get the witty banter at least? Because it seems like we get Mr. Repetitive(Cena) and Mr. Time Killer(Rock)

Yeah, that's one ugly belt. Hansen did them a favor by running it over with his tractor.

That did look like a belt you could get at Family Dollar.

You notice about the time Hogan and Bischoff came in and Dutch, Cornette, and Savio Vega left, the KOs fell apart? That's when they just shoved Kong, Hamada, Daffney, and Sarita to the side and lesser KOs like Angelina and Madison were shoved down our throats. But the ratings stayed high for their segments, so I don't know.
We went from those matches where Taylor Wilde and Daffney were taking bumps in barbed wire to boring Madison-Angelina matches that never seemed to end.
I think they're missing the boat on Winter right now too. She came in hot and now she and Angelina arent even a tag team anymore.

I forgot all about Daffney & Taylor (Ethel Mertz)Wilde. They could've had a seperate legit show built around the KO division, but instead they brought in 2 guys who are more interested in the barbie look. Winter is solid when it comes to both mic/ring work but she keeps getting overlooked

Halfway through Victory Road and the Crimson turn is on the way but I hope they wait until Lockdown to do it. Let him and Morgan lose one more time to Joe and Magnus and let him "Dusty" Morgan in the cage.
Started off good but I'll let you know if it holds up.

Nevermind, Crimson turned. I hope they don't rush them into a cage at Lockdown but I'm sure they will.

Thank God for the last 2 matches because that ppv was terrible

 

[The Pope]

Damn, TNA picked a bad day to have a pay-per-view, going up against the NCAA tournament and The Walking Dead season finale...I cant way to hear the ratings for it, even though honestly I couldn't really give a fuck​

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

I don't see where she's let herself go but I agree that they hid her in a tag team for a reason, just like any smart promotion would do and like they did Brooke. But she's far from that now, in the ring and on the mic. Brooke is a step behind her but not by much. She's the most improved lately because she had so much further to go.

TNA desprately wanted a face for the KO division and instead of marketing the Beautiful People as a whole, they chose Velvet. (TNA didn't market their wrestlers that much to begin with, but that's another story.) She didn't improve in the ring and her push was stalled right after she made a run at the belt. During that time Brooke marketed herself outside of TNA with Hooters and a few other things, plus she's shown marked improvement in the ring. Brooke sucked when she started in TNA, but after she came back from injury she got with trainers and improved her wrestling ability.

That's my point. I know how they use it, I just think they could get more out of it. Every now and then they mention something happening on Xplosion but they should use it more frequently.

That's my point as well. The first item of business is getting it on U.S. Television. My actual wish was to give Xplosion and a portion roster to Heyman. If you give it separate storylines and book the show differently than Impact (the way Smackdown is more wrestling based as compared to RAW) It will get ratings.

I think they're missing the boat on Winter right now too. She came in hot and now she and Angelina arent even a tag team anymore.

Don't get me started on that. With the whole "Vampire" genre being popular at that time (Twilight, True Blood) They could have stayed with the original plan and had WInter turn Angelina out and been a creepy lesbian tag team. People didn't like it at first because they wanted TBP to last forever but then once Winter and Angelina kissed the fans bought into it. Men WANT to see bitches kissing and they were pulling in a goth/emo audience. But Russo fucked it up once Angelina started talking again.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Well can we get the witty banter at least? Because it seems like we get Mr. Repetitive(Cena) and Mr. Time Killer(Rock)

That did look like a belt you could get at Family Dollar.

I forgot all about Daffney & Taylor (Ethel Mertz)Wilde. They could've had a seperate legit show built around the KO division, but instead they brought in 2 guys who are more interested in the barbie look. Winter is solid when it comes to both mic/ring work but she keeps getting overlooked

Yeah, I haven't heard them talk about a separate show in a while.

Thank God for the last 2 matches because that ppv was terrible

Still haven't finished watching yet (in progress) but it started strong but this Robbie E thing is dragging on forever. But that's probably because they're giving it the time they had blocked off for Storm/Ray which they booked short since James is coming off a recent surgery and they need him for LD.

Damn, TNA picked a bad day to have a pay-per-view, going up against the NCAA tournament and The Walking Dead season finale...I cant way to hear the ratings for it, even though honestly I couldn't really give a fuck​

TNA doesn't give a shit about their ppv ratings except for a couple: Lockdown and Bound For Glory. When you look at the sports calendar, including UFC, boxing, and WWE, there's never a good weekend.

TNA desprately wanted a face for the KO division and instead of marketing the Beautiful People as a whole, they chose Velvet. (TNA didn't market their wrestlers that much to begin with, but that's another story.) She didn't improve in the ring and her push was stalled right after she made a run at the belt. During that time Brooke marketed herself outside of TNA with Hooters and a few other things, plus she's shown marked improvement in the ring. Brooke sucked when she started in TNA, but after she came back from injury she got with trainers and improved her wrestling ability.

They did push TBP and pretty strong for a while, to the point where the division becamse The Beautiful People and everyone else.
She seems more a victim of typical TNA moving storylines around like they do with the men. She had her run and now it's someone else's turn.
Hopefully, while she's off tv, Brooke and Rosita are training and elevating their game to mix in with Tara, Gail, Mickie, and Winter.
Velvet's a nice babyface and can show some fire but I think they should be moving ODB from comedy to Gail's top contender for Slammiversary.

Don't get me started on that. With the whole "Vampire" genre being popular at that time (Twilight, True Blood) They could have stayed with the original plan and had WInter turn Angelina out and been a creepy lesbian tag team. People didn't like it at first because they wanted TBP to last forever but then once Winter and Angelina kissed the fans bought into it. Men WANT to see bitches kissing and they were pulling in a goth/emo audience. But Russo fucked it up once Angelina started talking again.

It could have been good if they just turned Angelina but when she was being drugged and then decided she was wanted to work with Winter, it was just dumb.
That's always been Russo's weakness (one of them): where a little would suffice, he overdoes it and fucks up good ideas.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

They did push TBP and pretty strong for a while, to the point where the division becamse The Beautiful People and everyone else.

What I mean is they were popular and on Spike. Why aren't they marketing the hell out of them? They should have done a lot of cross-promotion. That is one of the differences between the WWE and TNA.

She seems more a victim of typical TNA moving storylines around like they do with the men. She had her run and now it's someone else's turn.
Hopefully, while she's off tv, Brooke and Rosita are training and elevating their game to mix in with Tara, Gail, Mickie, and Winter.
Velvet's a nice babyface and can show some fire but I think they should be moving ODB from comedy to Gail's top contender for Slammiversary.

This is true, but I just don't see Velvet as a singles competitor right now. They should have her manage the Gunns (who are returning soon) or make a new version of TBP for awhile.

It could have been good if they just turned Angelina but when she was being drugged and then decided she was wanted to work with Winter, it was just dumb.
That's always been Russo's weakness (one of them): where a little would suffice, he overdoes it and fucks up good ideas.

Simplest thing would have been Velvet wrestles Winter. If Velvet wins Winter has to leave TNA. If Winter wins she gets Angelina for 30 days. Winter wins the match and during those 30 days Winter turns Angelina out and decides to stay. Dusty did something similar with Baby Doll.

 

[dirtyd]

Another favorite interview of mine


Just a natural no bullshit type of interview that's missing in these dark times

 

[Upgrade Dave]

What I mean is they were popular and on Spike. Why aren't they marketing the hell out of them? They should have done a lot of cross-promotion. That is one of the differences between the WWE and TNA.

TNA was still a smaller company then. Now with quite a few national sponsors it's different and they have more options, like using Morgan in the Direct Insurance ads.

This is true, but I just don't see Velvet as a singles competitor right now. They should have her manage the Gunns (who are returning soon) or make a new version of TBP for awhile.

Velvet's not good enough to be the champ but as the number two babyface, she's a good fit.
Not a fan of her managing or anything that takes her out of the ring. She needs more ring work, not less. That was clearly why they let her feud with Jackie and ODB, to help her along.

Simplest thing would have been Velvet wrestles Winter. If Velvet wins Winter has to leave TNA. If Winter wins she gets Angelina for 30 days. Winter wins the match and during those 30 days Winter turns Angelina out and decides to stay. Dusty did something similar with Baby Doll.

That would have worked. There were a hundred ways to do that angle that would have been better than what they did.

Another favorite interview of mine


Just a natural no bullshit type of interview that's missing in these dark times