Seriously Ladies Can We Get Real......Again?

[Mo-Better]

OK all "that" on them itty bitty legs?

Seriously ladies do you really believe you need to go this route to get a man? What ever happened believing in yourself, the real you? Today a man doesn't know what he's looking at when some sistas walk by or what he's got when he gets her home. Implants all over the damn place, enough tattoos to be mistaken for a NASCAR vehicle. False eyelashes that don't come close to looking natural and of course the wigs and weaves.

Do women really know what we men want? I don't believe men seeking medical altered women represent the majority of us. I know when I touch a woman I want her to be and feel natural.

Black women unlike any other women on this planet were blessed with the shapeliest bodies imaginable. Why screw with it? Women want the men in their lives to be real, well we want you women to also be real.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

It's not for you.

 

[Cybts1]

Very Good Question.

Let's see how far this one falls down the list.

 

[Mo-Better]

It's not for you.

So are you saying women are doing this for themselves? Don't get me wrong I enjoy the view. I'm just trying to understand women's mindset.

No its not but who is it for? Every man wants a freak (once) but not many would marry one? Seems the attraction would be more superficial than genuine.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

So are you saying women are doing this for themselves? Don't get me wrong I enjoy the view. I'm just trying to understand women's mindset.

No its not but who is it for? Every man wants a freak (once) but not many would marry one? Seems the attraction would be more superficial than genuine.

I keep saying this to you guys over and over. But for everyone of you who don't like it? There's 5 guys who do. For everyone of you guys who don't like a woman with weave, there's 5 guys who don't care. Some people just aren't that neddling into looks. Some guys care about the person underneath. Some guys just don't put that much weight into the outer appearance.

Some.

 

[yureeka9]

I keep saying this to you guys over and over. But for everyone of you who don't like it? There's 5 guys who do. For everyone of you guys who don't like a woman with weave, there's 5 guys who don't care. Some people just aren't that neddling into looks. Some guys care about the person underneath. Some guys just don't put that much weight into the outer appearance.

Some.

Interesting...So these women are basically pandering to the shallow guys that put all of a woman's value on the way she looks. Sounds like Dumb and Dumber to me.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Interesting...So these women are basically pandering to the shallow guys that put all of a woman's value on the way she looks. Sounds like Dumb and Dumber to me.

It's life in general. If i wear a weave some people will indeed like me for me. And not judge me by some hair. Even though they're FEW and FAR inbetween? I'd rather have a man who liked me for who i was not wanted to judge me by my nails, hair or whatever else.

 

[Mo-Better]

Interesting...So these women are basically pandering to the shallow guys that put all of a woman's value on the way she looks. Sounds like Dumb and Dumber to me.

Bingo! So what we men have to accept is there's a percentage of black women out here who are just seeking attention. If theses women are in the business I can understand it.

I hear fine women talking about they need to get bigger want bigger asses. Ruining nicely proportioned bodies to see out a man that wants a big ass ass.

The funny thing about WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff's response is for years women dogged us men for thinking the way they are now thinking.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Bingo! So what we men have to accept is there's a percentage of black women out here who are just seeking attention. If theses women are in the business I can understand it.

I hear fine women talking about they need to get bigger want bigger asses. Ruining nicely proportioned bodies to see out a man that wants a big ass ass.

The funny thing about WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff's response is for years women dogged us men for thinking the way they are now thinking.

I don't think so. I think it was just a certain segment of women. I did everything i could at 1 point to hide my looks, my body shape from men. While other women did everything they could to flaunt it because it's what got them in the door. Why are people acting like this is new?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I keep saying this to you guys over and over. But for everyone of you who don't like it? There's 5 guys who do. For everyone of you guys who don't like a woman with weave, there's 5 guys who don't care. Some people just aren't that neddling into looks. Some guys care about the person underneath. Some guys just don't put that much weight into the outer appearance.

Some.

Agreed. I've seen women who I thought were dogfaced ugly but they often were with men who seemed to love the shit out of them.
If it didn't work, they wouldn't do it.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Agreed. I've seen women who I thought were dogfaced ugly but they often were with men who seemed to love the shit out of them.
If it didn't work, they wouldn't do it.

Guys speak so much on appearance appearance appearance. She likes it to maybe make herself feel good. Make herself feel complete. When i had my accident and i had to have all of my hair cut off i was a little depressed, because for some reason i attached my femininity to my hair. I attached my "me"-ness to my hair. And if not for someone who loved me consoling me and telling me it didn't matter i'd probably still be upset about it. My husband wasn't the type of man who valued a woman based on her looks. As a matter of fact looks was the last thing on his list.

As they are on mine.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Guys speak so much on appearance appearance appearance. She likes it to maybe make herself feel good. Make herself feel complete. When i had my accident and i had to have all of my hair cut off i was a little depressed, because for some reason i attached my femininity to my hair. I attached my "me"-ness to my hair. And if not for someone who loved me consoling me and telling me it didn't matter i'd probably still be upset about it. My husband wasn't the type of man who valued a woman based on her looks. As a matter of fact looks was the last thing on his list.

As they are on mine.

I was rolling with you until you got to the last part.
Physical attraction is always the first thing. It's just that different things attract different people and it's far from the most important thing.

 

[UncleStuntman]

Guys speak so much on appearance appearance appearance. She likes it to maybe make herself feel good. Make herself feel complete. When i had my accident and i had to have all of my hair cut off i was a little depressed, because for some reason i attached my femininity to my hair. I attached my "me"-ness to my hair. And if not for someone who loved me consoling me and telling me it didn't matter i'd probably still be upset about it. My husband wasn't the type of man who valued a woman based on her looks. As a matter of fact looks was the last thing on his list.

As they are on mine.

We are visual creatures. Its no way looks are last on the list. He might not be hell bent on looks but its up there on the list.

When I see a woman with all the fakeness going on (hair,lashes, nails, foundation makeup, and many more) that tells me she has a low self image. So if I want her all I have to do is shoot her a couple of compliments and she's mine. The more fake shit she got going on, the easier it seems to be to snag her. If I'm looking for a women to be mine, I like them to be mostly natural. Minimum makeup, weave sometimes, if at all, she can go out in sneakers and sweats and be fine. I'm attracted to woman with a high self-image, a woman who embrace her natural beauty. I don't want a woman who looks totally different without her costume on.

 

[Mo-Better]

I don't think so. I think it was just a certain segment of women. I did everything i could at 1 point to hide my looks, my body shape from men. While other women did everything they could to flaunt it because it's what got them in the door. Why are people acting like this is new?

We don't know who we're meeting anymore. Did you ever think maybe you didn't need to get "in that door?" Especially if getting in that door means taking you out of your natural character. Your there and meet someone. But who is he meeting? Is he meeting the real you or someone who did whatever was necessary to get in? There's a few women here I know thankfully that don't fall into that category. They are comfortable and confident with who they are.

Also no one said this was new however the trend seems to be getting worse. I understand a woman wanting to look her best. But what I'm seeing now exceeds looking your best. The surgeries are no longer complimentary. There's a definite difference between looking to enhance and looking to draw attention. It comes across as a sign of desperation.

But as you stated earlier its not for everyone and your right. But it lessens your options. Your now appealing to a particular "type" more interested in proportions as opposed to someone interested in you the real person.

I threw this question out there because I think some women have developed a misconception on what it takes to attract a man. As Yureeka9 commented about women "pandering to the shallow guys." I ask why should we men try and be better men if this is all women now want?

What I'm saying is if women are lowering their standards don't complain when we meet you at that level. We're men and we will do what men do, that's the message I'm seeing because that's the message some women are sending. We're here and we're looking for "real women" and you'll do until that real woman comes along.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

I was rolling with you until you got to the last part.
Physical attraction is always the first thing. It's just that different things attract different people and it's far from the most important thing.

I disagree. It's not always the first thing. You've got people who've fallen for other people and have never even seen them. Because of their words. Because of their ideals. Different things DO attract different people. What attracts me to a man far more easily than anything else is his ability to capture my interest with his words. Physical attraction is going to be the last thing that attracts me.

I've known a few men who were the same way. So yeah i disagree with that.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

We are visual creatures. Its no way looks are last on the list. He might not be hell bent on looks but its up there on the list.

There's a woman who looks down upon men greatly for this reason you've given here. She considers you animals who're just lead around by your penis'. She respects very few of you and deems the rest of you not really worth her time or interest or trust. Because of that view of yours, she thinks of you as just slightly above savages who need guidance in behaving in a civilized fashion.

Your statement does not go for all men. Some men really do not value looks as highly as others.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

We don't know who we're meeting anymore. Did you ever think maybe you didn't need to get "in that door?"

Me? Personally? No. I don't care to be in the door to a person who wanted me there just because of how i looked. But alot of women aren't like me. Alot of women feel they need "plumage".

Especially if getting in that door means taking you out of your natural character. Your there and meet someone. But who is he meeting? Is he meeting the real you or someone who did whatever was necessary to get in? There's a few women here I know thankfully that don't fall into that category. They are comfortable and confident with who they are.

This is fallacious. No one meets the "real" anyone first off. Stop that.

Also no one said this was new however the trend seems to be getting worse. I understand a woman wanting to look her best. But what I'm seeing now exceeds looking your best. The surgeries are no longer complimentary. There's a definite difference between looking to enhance and looking to draw attention. It comes across as a sign of desperation.

I don't see it as anything new. Same thing has been happening forever. If they had the technology to do this in the 1700's they'd have been doing it there too. Women have always been trying to alter their appearance to make themselves more attractive to a man who'll choose them. Just the tools used are different.

But as you stated earlier its not for everyone and your right. But it lessens your options. Your now appealing to a particular "type" more interested in proportions as opposed to someone interested in you the real person.

One of the things i truly don't understand about you guys is your seeming inability to understand there's no 1 thing that causes a persons behavior. The type of woman who's going to get breast implants doesn't have just 1 thing "wrong" with her. She's lacking in knowledge in MANY areas. She's lacking in confidence and self worth in many areas. It's not no 1 little fix. It's not no "if you did this 1 thing..." It never is. By the time women have reached adulthood we've been bombarded with 30million different subliminal as well as overt messages telling us how to be. What to do. I know grown ass women in their late to mid 30's just now learning about things i was taught at 17.

They do what they do because they think it's the right thing to do. They think it'll work.

I threw this question out there because I think some women have developed a misconception on what it takes to attract a man. As Yureeka9 commented about women "pandering to the shallow guys." I ask why should we men try and be better men if this is all women now want?

No. You threw it out there because you think women have the misconception of what it takes to attract YOU. YOU do not comprise the entirety of "MAN".

What I'm saying is if women are lowering their standards don't complain when we meet you at that level. We're men and we will do what men do, that's the message I'm seeing because that's the message some women are sending. We're here and we're looking for "real women" and you'll do until that real woman comes along.

I'm cool with that. I did men the exact same way. Other women do this as well. We all have standards. lol you guys have your sect that say our standards are too hiiiiiiiigh. "You can't expect us to want to have jobs and be emotionally available to youuuu" and "keep to our agreed upon contract" and "be a good person" Cmoooooonnn that's too much!

That's why i like that term, "Mr. RightNow." You're ok for now. But 1 day Mr. Right will pop up on the radar. He will be accepting of me. And i will be of him.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I disagree. It's not always the first thing. You've got people who've fallen for other people and have never even seen them. Because of their words. Because of their ideals. Different things DO attract different people. What attracts me to a man far more easily than anything else is his ability to capture my interest with his words. Physical attraction is going to be the last thing that attracts me.

I've known a few men who were the same way. So yeah i disagree with that.

Idealist nonsense. There are plenty of exceptions to every rule but that doesn't invalidate the rule.
Physical attraction is bait but it's the other things that are the hook. Just being cute is never enough if there's nothing to back it up.

There's a woman who looks down upon men greatly for this reason you've given here. She considers you animals who're just lead around by your penis'. She respects very few of you and deems the rest of you not really worth her time or interest or trust. Because of that view of yours, she thinks of you as just slightly above savages who need guidance in behaving in a civilized fashion.

Your statement does not go for all men. Some men really do not value looks as highly as others.

And that women's opinion on men makes her a dangerous person to have around young people. All of her advice is tainted by the insanity going on in her head.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Idealist nonsense. There are plenty of exceptions to every rule but that doesn't invalidate the rule.
Physical attraction is bait but it's the other things that are the hook. Just being cute is never enough if there's nothing to back it up.



And that women's opinion on men makes her a dangerous person to have around young people. All of her advice is tainted by the insanity going on in her head.

It's not idealist. And i didn't say it was NOT the rule. Which makes it the exception. Which i believe to each woman who choose each other need to be. He needs to be exceptional to her. And she to him.

Physical attraction isn't necessarily the bait, it is with many people. I'm not saying it isn't. Not at all. But it's not really the basis for everyone either. Saying there's exceptions, if there are enough exceptions that means you have to eventually count it Dave.

If something is 51% over 49, you can't still say, well the 49% are still less so you don't pay any attention to them.

And that woman is no less dangerous than a man saying what the other poster said.

 

[footloose]

So are you saying women are doing this for themselves? Don't get me wrong I enjoy the view. I'm just trying to understand women's mindset.

No its not but who is it for? Every man wants a freak (once) but not many would marry one? Seems the attraction would be more superficial than genuine.

no but most of the time they do the opposite of what you tell them. so when you tell em natural is better, they go the other way

 

[Mo-Better]

No. You threw it out there because you think women have the misconception of what it takes to attract YOU. YOU do not comprise the entirety of "MAN".

Wow these comments seems to be getting personal almost defensive. I never proclaimed to be the appointed representative of the male population.

Out of all the men on this board I'm probably the only one here your comment doesn't apply for. Nice try but try again. I'm not looking for anyone. This thread as I said before is based upon observations and a recent discussion with a few mature brothers. Again on the mindset of women who have been medically enhanced. But what about those women who have undergone these procedures and there's been no change. No Mr. Right where do they go from here?

I'll address some of your other comments when I return from my mini vacation.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Wow these comments seems to be getting personal almost defensive. I never proclaimed to be the appointed representative of the male population.

Out of all the men on this board I'm probably the only one here your comment doesn't apply for. Nice try but try again. I'm not looking for anyone. This thread as I said before is based upon observations and a recent discussion with a few mature brothers. Again on the mindset of women who have been medically enhanced. But what about those women who have undergone these procedures and there's been no change. No Mr. Right where do they go from here?

I'll address some of your other comments when I return from my mini vacation.

No it's not personal. Stop it. It's just truthful. You're speaking about what you like Mo. Not about what 'MEN' like. That's all i was pointing out. You said, in that post that "men" don't like this and that. And you said "men" are telling women what they like. Well no. You were telling them what you liked and wanted. Which is fine.

That's what i was speaking on before. Those women falsely believe, if i get bigger tits, or a bigger ass. A man will like me. And ta daaaaaa. Because no one tells them, or told them during their developmental stages. No. That's NOT going to work.

 

[melonpecan]

Some women do it because they see a few men wanting it.

Some women do it because they see other women that look like it so they want it.

Some women do it because they see said women with it and they see them with men, so therefore in order to get men, they have to do it.

Even if there are chicks who are low maintenance or appear as though they have a high self value (in their natural or near to natural state) doesn't mean they don't have low self esteem...they just don't feel like going through the bullshit of keeping up a false body. Don't attribute every case of fakebodyitis to low self esteem, doesn't work.



Did I cover it all?

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Some women do it because they see a few men wanting it.

Some women do it because they see other women that look like it so they want it.

Some women do it because they see said women with it and they see them with men, so therefore in order to get men, they have to do it.

Even if there are chicks who are low maintenance or appear as though they have a high self value (in their natural or near to natural state) doesn't mean they don't have low self esteem...they just don't feel like going through the bullshit of keeping up a false body. Don't attribute every case of fakebodyitis to low self esteem, doesn't work.



Did I cover it all?

No.

 

[Noir]

Some women do it because they see a few men wanting it.

Some women do it because they see other women that look like it so they want it.

Some women do it because they see said women with it and they see them with men, so therefore in order to get men, they have to do it.

Even if there are chicks who are low maintenance or appear as though they have a high self value (in their natural or near to natural state) doesn't mean they don't have low self esteem...they just don't feel like going through the bullshit of keeping up a false body. Don't attribute every case of fakebodyitis to low self esteem, doesn't work.



Did I cover it all?

Pretty much. It's not only women with the self-image thing, but men as well. With men it is a financial thing. But if men were able to get "enhancement" surgeries like women, I wonder how many would be walking around with 12-pack abs? They would have to start making trousers with 3 legs in them.

 

[melonpecan]

No.

Help me out.

Pretty much. It's not only women with the self-image thing, but men as well. With men it is a financial thing. But if men were able to get "enhancement" surgeries like women, I wonder how many would be walking around with 12-pack abs? They would have to start making trousers with 3 legs in them.

That would be grotesque and I'd be very afraid of the man with those on.

 

[J.E.T.S]

Legs and ass be lookin' like...

 

[melonpecan]

^^^




*glad I don't have to worry about that.

 

[J.E.T.S]

^^^




*glad I don't have to worry about that.

Pfft...

Pics or doesn't exist. Even I put up a (more than partial) FACE pic in my SIG.

You're up.

 

[melonpecan]

Pfft...

Pics or doesn't exist. Even I put up a (more than partial) FACE pic in my SIG.

You're up.

Smh.

Babyface.

 

[J.E.T.S]

 

[melonpecan]

Ey, I tell a certain person all the time, I don't want to feel like I'm raping a 15 year old.

Goatee/soul patches are sexy [hide]that was for you[/hide]

 

[J.E.T.S]

 

[melonpecan]

Hey you do look familiar

 

[J.E.T.S]

Hey you do look familiar

I'm out there... You probably seen me if you in the A. I may have hit it.