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dirtyd said:
I know the rating were treading downwards under Cena but it was never to the degree it is now,
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As long as they write the show like they do, no one will be able to change that for any real amount of time, no matter who closes the show. They combined the WWE title picture and the Cena-Kane story and the ratings still dropped.

dirtyd said:
I know how to do that i mean responding to one persons post like how Dave did with one of my responses. Like if i have 3 topics in one post people can quote each one and respond.

Rock Cursing on Sportscenter:lol:
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:lol::lol:

What made it really funny to me was Rock with the "I fucked up" laugh when he said "This is live."



The only way I know is to do it the long way and manually create boxes around each section of the post that you want to comment to separately
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That's exactly how I do it. I'm still trying to figure out the
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Simply Sickenin' said:

The only way I know is to do it the long way and manually create
[ /qoute] boxes around each section of the post that you want to comment to separately
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DAMMIT that's what i've been doing, i was just hoping there was an easier way:lol:

Upgrade Dave said:
As long as they write the show like they do, no one will be able to change that for any real amount of time, no matter who closes the show. They combined the WWE title picture and the Cena-Kane story and the ratings still dropped.



:lol::lol:

What made it really funny to me was Rock with the "I fucked up" laugh when he said "This is live."
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What would really help imo would be for them to have legit title matches on both shows, and not the phony title matches where someone runs in after 5mins. Terrible storylines combined with generic wrestlers will alway have people turning the channel, what's funny is that if they just dedicated a month to the format i proposed it would help them tremendously but they won't do it.

As for Rock he had that chick Charissa Thompson on sportsnation sweating him hard and was begging for a hug:lol:
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dirtyd said:
Simply Sickenin' said:

The only way I know is to do it the long way and manually create

DAMMIT that's what i've been doing, i was just hoping there was an easier way:lol:
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:lol:


What would really help imo would be for them to have legit title matches on both shows, and not the phony title matches where someone runs in after 5mins. Terrible storylines combined with generic wrestlers will alway have people turning the channel, what's funny is that if they just dedicated a month to the format i proposed it would help them tremendously but they won't do it.

As for Rock he had that chick Charissa Thompson on sportsnation sweating him hard and was begging for a hug:lol:
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With so much of their money being in ppv, I wouldn't think they should give away WWE/World title matches but they can have IC and US title matches but for those to mean anything, they would have to go back to building their midcard again. That way when they do have a WWE/World title match on tv, it means something. Now they have the two brand champs wrestle it seems like twice a year and Cole and Lawler work hard to make it seem like it's rare when we know it's not.​
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Upgrade Dave said:
With so much of their money being in ppv, I wouldn't think they should give away WWE/World title matches but they can have IC and US title matches but for those to mean anything, they would have to go back to building their midcard again. That way when they do have a WWE/World title match on tv, it means something. Now they have the two brand champs wrestle it seems like twice a year and Cole and Lawler work hard to make it seem like it's rare when we know it's not.
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I've worried for years why they don't get rid of one of those mid-card titles, because they' barely do it with either. They should could have official tournament to unite the two titles and stretch it out for a month of two leading into a finals where the new champ could be crowd. It could be next years King of Ring. (another concept that use to mean something, that they've done nothing with with) The semi finals should being on Raw and Smackdown and the finals being that a PPV. You could use the tournament to build some good mid-card level feuds across both brands.

I know it's not impossible. They built up good feuds on the mid-card level just a few years ago. MVP - Miz, MVP - Matt Hardy, even the Edge - Matt Hardy feud started when Edge was still considered somewhat of a mid-card level guy. And they have the talent, they just never decide to use it. Let guys like McIntyne, Rhodes, Dibiase, Riley, Ryder, Swagger, Kofi, Miz, Truth, Ezekiel, Gabriel & Barrett have some real screen time and build some decent feuds. ​
 
Simply Sickenin' said:
I've worried for years why they don't get rid of one of those mid-card titles, because they' barely do it with either. They should could have official tournament to unite the two titles and stretch it out for a month of two leading into a finals where the new champ could be crowd. It could be next years King of Ring. (another concept that use to mean something, that they've done nothing with with) The semi finals should being on Raw and Smackdown and the finals being that a PPV. You could use the tournament to build some good mid-card level feuds across both brands.

I know it's not impossible. They built up good feuds on the mid-card level just a few years ago. MVP - Miz, MVP - Matt Hardy, even the Edge - Matt Hardy feud started when Edge was still considered somewhat of a mid-card level guy. And they have the talent, they just never decide to use it. Let guys like McIntyne, Rhodes, Dibiase, Riley, Ryder, Swagger, Kofi, Miz, Truth, Ezekiel, Gabriel & Barrett have some real screen time and build some decent feuds. ​
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That wouldn't do anything but dillute things already. The only sort of lengthy feud that they've done for either of those belts recently was Dolph Ziggler and Zack Ryder. They seen to have no interest in creating a compelling feud for either though that was a big part of why we enjoyed the WWF during the 80's and it allowed for guys to be elevated while holding or chasing the belt. They'd rather focus on 1 or 2 feuds anytime other than the Road to Wrestlemania and let things be.
Consolidating belts as evidenced by there only being 1 Tag Team title doesn't mean that the WWE is going to dedicate any or any more time into that aspect of their product.
 
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c_commander said:
That wouldn't do anything but dillute things already. The only sort of lengthy feud that they've done for either of those belts recently was Dolph Ziggler and Zack Ryder. They seen to have no interest in creating a compelling feud for either though that was a big part of why we enjoyed the WWF during the 80's and it allowed for guys to be elevated while holding or chasing the belt. They'd rather focus on 1 or 2 feuds anytime other than the Road to Wrestlemania and let things be.
Consolidating belts as evidenced by there only being 1 Tag Team title doesn't mean that the WWE is going to dedicate any or any more time into that aspect of their product.
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I could never buy into the Ziggler/Ryder feud because the company was clear on their stance that they didn't believe in Ryder's success and thought it was a over night internet buzz situation. Since the company never believed in him, it's hard to sell it to the audience.

As for the tag titles, the big difference I would see in joining the US and IC belts would be that they actually have mid-card guys that have the ability to put on good matches. The tag team division is completely shit. They haven't really had real tag teams since the attitude era. The closest thing we've gotten in recent years is singles competitors that they don't have anything for, so they put them together in a tag team and below mid-card tag teams that don't have anyone to feud with. It was clear that merging those belts wasn't going to do shit because the division sucks in general.

There could still be life in the mid-card singles division, if only the people in the back would only step back and let it happen. ​
 
Simply Sickenin' said:
I could never buy into the Ziggler/Ryder feud because the company was clear on their stance that they didn't believe in Ryder's success and thought it was a over night internet buzz situation. Since the company never believed in him, it's hard to sell it to the audience.

As for the tag titles, the big difference I would see in joining the US and IC belts would be that they actually have mid-card guys that have the ability to put on good matches. The tag team division is completely shit. They haven't really had real tag teams since the attitude era. The closest thing we've gotten in recent years is singles competitors that they don't have anything for, so they put them together in a tag team and below mid-card tag teams that don't have anyone to feud with. It was clear that merging those belts wasn't going to do shit because the division sucks in general.

There could still be life in the mid-card singles division, if only the people in the back would only step back and let it happen. ​
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Good point but if the company was willing to do that then they wouldn't need to merge the belts they could have 2 big stories revolved around the mid card titles instead of just 1.
 
JCP had about the same number of titles in the 80's and kept things fresh and titles important but WWE isn't following that routine of adding importance to the secondary titles.
 
xspade7 said:
JCP had about the same number of titles in the 80's and kept things fresh and titles important but WWE isn't following that routine of adding importance to the secondary titles.
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The World Heavyweight Title, the United States Heavyweight Title, the World TV Title, the World Tag Team title and the United States Tag Team title. And every single one of those titles was given adequate time, had solid feuds for the belts and quite frankly was with more importance than any title currently in the WWE.
 
c_commander said:
The World Heavyweight Title, the United States Heavyweight Title, the World TV Title, the World Tag Team title and the United States Tag Team title. And every single one of those titles was given adequate time, had solid feuds for the belts and quite frankly was with more importance than any title currently in the WWE.
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Truth and the US title made you the number 1 contender to the World title which made it that much more important. They need to bring those types of rankings back and make the title belts worth something again.
 
xspade7 said:
JCP had about the same number of titles in the 80's and kept things fresh and titles important but WWE isn't following that routine of adding importance to the secondary titles.
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c_commander said:
The World Heavyweight Title, the United States Heavyweight Title, the World TV Title, the World Tag Team title and the United States Tag Team title. And every single one of those titles was given adequate time, had solid feuds for the belts and quite frankly was with more importance than any title currently in the WWE.
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Nochturnal said:
Truth and the US title made you the number 1 contender to the World title which made it that much more important. They need to bring those types of rankings back and make the title belts worth something again.
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I have nothing to add to this.


Okay maybe a little something

This is the difference between a company run by and with people who know the business and a company with a crew of tv writers who don't know the business and an owner who goes from being old school to hating wrestling at a whim.
 
So let me get this straight. Michael Cole heels it up on AJ who undoubtedly is a sympathetic figure which leads to her telling him off only for him to take things further and have another heel come to her rescue.:smh:
I get that they were giving an excuse to try to avoid his match with Orton but that was ridiculous. And quite frankly this vegan gimmick they're trying to give him is stupid and isn't working in the least. The way they are doing things the second he loses the belt(probably at the Elimination Chamber) he will go back to being an afterthought and this title reign would have done nothing more than make him a heel cause right now he damn sure isn't gaining any stature from it. He looked like more of a threat in the ring when he was jobbing out to Sin Cara.
 
Bryan is being given the shaft, has been since the Nexus angle. He needs to win at the EC, and win BIG!!! They are making his reign less convincing than Miz. He should pin Orton last at the EC, clean at that. You want a company of new stars but won't bump any of them up to do so. He won money in the bank, and jobbed like a mother fucker after that. Then he wins the world title, and hasn't won a full match lately, always some bullshit, they don't know what the fuck they are foing and its not going to bite them in the ass cuz TNA won't fully leave the Impact Zone(Like Samoa Joe says they should) and ROH doesn't have a big enough deal.
 
c_commander said:
I'll take her and AJ and you guys can split the rest of the divas/knockouts,etc.
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Deal, I'll take these 3 :yes:

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O.J PIMPSON said:
Bryan is being given the shaft, has been since the Nexus angle. He needs to win at the EC, and win BIG!!! They are making his reign less convincing than Miz. He should pin Orton last at the EC, clean at that. You want a company of new stars but won't bump any of them up to do so. He won money in the bank, and jobbed like a mother fucker after that. Then he wins the world title, and hasn't won a full match lately, always some bullshit, they don't know what the fuck they are foing and its not going to bite them in the ass cuz TNA won't fully leave the Impact Zone(Like Samoa Joe says they should) and ROH doesn't have a big enough deal.
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His title reign is being played off like a joke and I hate it. How is anyone supposed to take him seriously if they keep giving him fluke victories? It's a poor attempt to make him heel. They got him out there acting like a goofy asshole like Michael Cole.

They need to make him a heel because he kicks the Face's asses not because he gets fluke victories. He needs to be taken seriously because this goofy shit ain't working.
 
O.J PIMPSON said:
Bryan is being given the shaft, has been since the Nexus angle. He needs to win at the EC, and win BIG!!! They are making his reign less convincing than Miz. He should pin Orton last at the EC, clean at that. You want a company of new stars but won't bump any of them up to do so. He won money in the bank, and jobbed like a mother fucker after that. Then he wins the world title, and hasn't won a full match lately, always some bullshit, they don't know what the fuck they are foing and its not going to bite them in the ass cuz TNA won't fully leave the Impact Zone(Like Samoa Joe says they should) and ROH doesn't have a big enough deal.
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Agreed.

On TNA leaving the Impact Zone
They can't afford it. Unless they're going to film in England every week, they still don't have the money to film on the road every week or every two weeks. They have to find markets they're strong in and keep taping the occasional Impact and the big ppvs (Lockdown and Bound For Glory).
 
WWE Covers Up The Undertaker's Head For Cover
Date Added: February 10, 2012
Story By: Steve Carrier
WWE has released four different "WrestleMania" covers for the March 2012 issue of WWE Magazine, featuring The Undertaker, Triple H, John Cena and The Rock.

The magazine indicates that Triple H will face The Undertaker at WrestleMania XXVIII. The headline for "The Game" cover says "Can The Game End The Deadman's Reign?" while the headline for the issue bearing The Undertaker reads "Will "The Streak" Survive?"

The Undertaker cover was apparently designed to conceal his lack of hair as his head is surrounded by photoshopped fire, with no hair visible. Many people have speculated that the iconic wrestler donned a wig in his return to television last week after a photograph surfaced online last summer in which he appeared bald. The Wrestling Observer subsequently reported that The Undertaker had indeed shaved his head.

The picture in question:
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wait a minute .... that wasn't the Undertaker's real hair. I am shocked, shocked, SHOCKED! I tell you. :rolleyes:

It's a good thing that we have these crack journalists white guys who are always on the case. They sure are fast about this stuff. :hmm:
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Simply Sickenin' said:

wait a minute .... that wasn't the Undertaker's real hair. I am shocked, shocked, SHOCKED! I tell you. :rolleyes:

It's a good thing that we have these crack journalists white guys who are always on the case. They sure are fast about this stuff. :hmm:
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:lol:
Honestly when i saw him with his head shaved i was hoping he was coming back as Big Evil:yes: Instead we get a version of what he would look like if he went to a salon:smh:
 
c_commander said:
Heard it but based on what I heard about the finish of the main event things still aren't right.
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The ref bump is the most overused gimmick in wrestling. If they're using it to build Roode vs Sting (with Roode going over and after he loses the title to Storm), the finish is fine but they shouldn't just do silly shit on the ppvs that people pay to watch.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
The ref bump is the most overused gimmick in wrestling. If they're using it to build Roode vs Sting (with Roode going over and after he loses the title to Storm), the finish is fine but they shouldn't just do silly shit on the ppvs that people pay to watch.
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This setting up legends shit needs to be ended by TNA. They tried it with Hogan vs Sting and the payoff was a waste that went against months of storyline. The best bet still would have been to make Roode look strong, keep Storm occupied elsewhere and then finally let the two strong guys have a blowoff match for the title and they've done the exact opposite.
 
c_commander said:
This setting up legends shit needs to be ended by TNA. They tried it with Hogan vs Sting and the payoff was a waste that went against months of storyline. The best bet still would have been to make Roode look strong, keep Storm occupied elsewhere and then finally let the two strong guys have a blowoff match for the title and they've done the exact opposite.
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If they use the legends to make the younger guys, I have no problem with it. There are still more people that recognize Sting and Hulk Hogan than AJ Styles and Samoa Joe.
Everyone, including them, knows they fucked up at Bound For Glory and they've been trying to make it up ever since and done, I think, a pretty good job. Sting's doing a much better job as a commissioner/GM role than most and Hogan is in a midcard feud (that still gets too much time) and Ric Flair is a manager, when he's there which I don't know to still be the case.
I think the best way for them to go is for Roode and Storm to headline Lockdown with Storm winning and going on to feud with Bully Ray with Roode feuding with Sting, similar to Edge with Mick Foley in 2005. Then you can always steer Roode and Storm back to each other later while keeping them on top with Jeff Hardy and maybe someone else like Ken Anderson, RVD, and/or AJ Style and Daniels.

And say what you will about Sting and Hogan, that Philly crowd went crazy when Hulk turned.
 
O.J PIMPSON said:
anybody hear Vince Russo got fired???
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Major Shake-Up on the TNA Creative Team?
Date Added: February 13, 2012
Story By: Marc Middleton
Source: PWInsider.com

- In regards to reports going around, Dave Lagana is not replacing Vince Russo as the head of TNA Creative. Lagana was at last nght's Against All Odds pay-per-view to help out, according to one top source within TNA. Lagana was hired by TNA to work on Ring Ka King and other projects, not the Impact brand but was at the pay-per-view last night helping with backstage segments.

Russo was not at the pay-per-view last night and while some believe he is gone, nothing has been announced to the TNA roster or staff yet.

The head of TNA creative remains Bruce Prichard. Russo and Matt Conway have been writing scripts for Impact in recent months with those scripts going to Prichard for tinkering and then Eric Bischoff for his own feedback in production meetings at TV tapings or pay-per-views.
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That actually explains a lot about what wrong with TNA. There are way too many cooks in the kitchen. And at different times no less. If they sat down and came up with a story as a group, things might work out better, but doing it like this led to storylines with endings at come out of nowhere. ​
 
Simply Sickenin' said:
That actually explains a lot about what wrong with TNA. There are way too many cooks in the kitchen. And at different times no less. If they sat down and came up with a story as a group, things might work out better, but doing it like this led to storylines with endings at come out of nowhere. ​
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:yes:
Then add Hulk Hogan and you have a mess. If Eric and Hulk aren't on the booking committee, then they're input should be very, very little with Eric sticking to production (no excuse for how poorly they mic the Impact Zone crowd). If Pritchard, Russo, Conway, and Borash write, let that be it. If it fails, then you know who to blame instead of what they have now with everyone going blank when some shit falls apart.

Whoever's been booking Impact! lately should stick to whatever they're doing.
 

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