C/S and that's why i hated how Candice turned out because she is hot and was really coming into her own, her match with Beth had the fans excited all throughout but when she hit the mat that was her swan song. Vince has made it known that he doesn't like managers/valets which makes no since seeing as how they can really help put over talent. Im a little skeptical of Kim returning to TNA because her and Kong had outstanding chemistry, and now that Bischoff is running things i don't know if she's going to have the same success.
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C/S and that's why i hated how Candice turned out because she is hot and was really coming into her own, her match with Beth had the fans excited all throughout but when she hit the mat that was her swan song. Vince has made it known that he doesn't like managers/valets which makes no since seeing as how they can really help put over talent. Im a little skeptical of Kim returning to TNA because her and Kong had outstanding chemistry, and now that Bischoff is running things i don't know if she's going to have the same success.
Man you ever seen the Bella Twins in person? Them bitches is FINE and thicker than you'd imagine. I had me a seat by the rail once and when them fine mothafuckas came down I almost thought about snatching one of they asses up and disappearing into the crowd!
I LOVE the damn Bella twins man...
I LOVE the damn Bella twins man...
they have a following here in AZ(theyre from scottsdale originally)
Damn thanks, how in the fuck did I miss Rick Rude
. Curt Henning was not ready in the 80's but early 90's most def. Curt did win the AWA strap but IMO he became better in WWF. Also we remember Kerry and................Tommy Rich.
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Firstly thanks for the correction on Hansen and Lawler, and I grew up in AWA territory
. Otherwise damn Dave you tore my list of legends to shreds dave
I am glad we agree on Butch Reed
, from around 83-86 Reed should have at least got the belt once. Steve Williams we agree that he was a beast. Good you also agree on Bad News. I strongly disagree on John Studd not being deserving. You have to remember he had Heenan. Still need your opinion on Orndorff and Windham.**sigh**
Eric Bischoff Gaining Power In TNA, Spike Not Fans Of Dixie
TNA News Tags: Dixie Carter, Eric Bischoff
Posted on 10.20.11
Spike TV has apparently lost a lot of faith in TNA president Dixie Carter, stemming from Kevin Nash and Booker T leaving the company last year.
Dixie had sold Spike executives on the idea of getting the Main Event Mafia back together last year, and they had big plans for it, without having Nash and Booker under contract. Nash and Booker both ended up in WWE and the whole thing fell through. With the Main Event Mafia plans dead, TNA booked the Fortune split from Immortal on the fly.
Due to Spike TV’s lack of faith in Carter, Eric Bischoff is said to have inherited more power in TNA. Sources say that Spike execs work directly through Bischoff for almost all TNA-related matters, and they want to deal with the former WCW president almost exclusively.
Eric Bischoff Gaining Power In TNA, Spike Not Fans Of Dixie
TNA News Tags: Dixie Carter, Eric Bischoff
Posted on 10.20.11
Spike TV has apparently lost a lot of faith in TNA president Dixie Carter, stemming from Kevin Nash and Booker T leaving the company last year.
Dixie had sold Spike executives on the idea of getting the Main Event Mafia back together last year, and they had big plans for it, without having Nash and Booker under contract. Nash and Booker both ended up in WWE and the whole thing fell through. With the Main Event Mafia plans dead, TNA booked the Fortune split from Immortal on the fly.
Due to Spike TV’s lack of faith in Carter, Eric Bischoff is said to have inherited more power in TNA. Sources say that Spike execs work directly through Bischoff for almost all TNA-related matters, and they want to deal with the former WCW president almost exclusively.
**sigh**
Eric Bischoff Gaining Power In TNA, Spike Not Fans Of Dixie
TNA News Tags: Dixie Carter, Eric Bischoff
Posted on 10.20.11
Spike TV has apparently lost a lot of faith in TNA president Dixie Carter, stemming from Kevin Nash and Booker T leaving the company last year.
Dixie had sold Spike executives on the idea of getting the Main Event Mafia back together last year, and they had big plans for it, without having Nash and Booker under contract. Nash and Booker both ended up in WWE and the whole thing fell through. With the Main Event Mafia plans dead, TNA booked the Fortune split from Immortal on the fly.
Due to Spike TV’s lack of faith in Carter, Eric Bischoff is said to have inherited more power in TNA. Sources say that Spike execs work directly through Bischoff for almost all TNA-related matters, and they want to deal with the former WCW president almost exclusively.
Eric Bischoff Gaining Power In TNA, Spike Not Fans Of Dixie
TNA News Tags: Dixie Carter, Eric Bischoff
Posted on 10.20.11
Spike TV has apparently lost a lot of faith in TNA president Dixie Carter, stemming from Kevin Nash and Booker T leaving the company last year.
Dixie had sold Spike executives on the idea of getting the Main Event Mafia back together last year, and they had big plans for it, without having Nash and Booker under contract. Nash and Booker both ended up in WWE and the whole thing fell through. With the Main Event Mafia plans dead, TNA booked the Fortune split from Immortal on the fly.
Due to Spike TV’s lack of faith in Carter, Eric Bischoff is said to have inherited more power in TNA. Sources say that Spike execs work directly through Bischoff for almost all TNA-related matters, and they want to deal with the former WCW president almost exclusively.
94? What took you so long?I've been on this bandwagon since the 80s.
80's I was NWA, AWA, and UWF. Caught a little of the WWF mainly because of The Ultimate Warrior, but that was it. Wasn't worried about Hogan cause he wasn't in the NWA/WCW..94 hit I was steamin
I guess Spike completely forgot what the fuck Bitchoff did to WCW and how bad the show has been since he got there. TNA you are now on the clock!!!!!!!
gail kim looking all like asa akira running in the ring
Firstly thanks for the correction on Hansen and Lawler, and I grew up in AWA territory
Sorry but you asked for a debate and I love chopping it up over this rasslin' shit.I am glad we agree on Butch Reed
Man, Butch was a personal hero of mine. He was the first Black wrestler I had ever seen that was "special" in that way that Ric Flair or Rick Steamboat or Dusty was special. He was just as good as the best of the White boys. Junkyard Dog was good but his name was Junkyard Dog while Reed had a real name. Of course when I had the chance to say this to him a couple years ago, I froze up like a 7 yr old.
I have nothing against Studd and I had seen him in other territories before WWF but he just never had that "thing" that says "World Champion" to me, but that's me.
I didn't mention Windham and Orndorff because I didn't think anything else needed to be said. Both of those guys should have been world champions somewhere. Barry got a run with the NWA title later but it wasn't the same. But if Dolph Ziggler can walk around being called a former World champion, then so can Barry Windham.
Damn.
Just like Dixie, not being a wrestling person, has held onto Russo for too long, Spike, not knowing wrestling, is buddying up to Bischoff.
The best case scenario is Bischoff uses this to get his shows onto Spike or gets a job with them and leaves TNA. Otherwise, this is bad news.
I will give him credit for one thing and that's the Reaction show, i thought it was well produced and i wish the wwe would do something like it.
I hear what Gail Kim is saying but why was any of this surprising when she reentered the WWE? Just from watching the WWE the last 3 years I could've told her about the conditions just from watching it on TV. Anyway, WWE (and to a lesser extent TNA) have problematic female wrestling divisions right now. If a female really wants to wrestle in the US Shimmer is the place she really needs to be at. Otherwise, suck it up and be happy with you 5 minute matches that fans use for bathroom breaks. The last time I really cared about a woman's match on "mainstream" Western wrestling TV was back in 2008 in TNA. Chikara doesn't even have a women's wrestling division, but the way they set equality among women and men wrestlers I'm as excited to see Sara Del Ray take on Madison Eagles as I am to see Daisy Haze take on one of the Colony members. Wish more promotions in the US would use more of an amalgamation philosophy when it comes to pro wrestling like Chikara has.
That was a good show, it was all the promos that should have been on Impact! condensed on a tabloid type show. Once that was canceled, I was hoping Bischoff's time might be up in TNA.
I agree but it wouldn't work in a bigger company like TNA and WWE. Daisy Haze can take on one of the Colony because she's a healthy size woman and their little guys and they're aided by the booking philosophy of Chikara. When men lose to women in the bigger companies, it's usually not realistic (even if the guy carried her to a good match like Jericho and Jarrett did for Chyna) and if a female beats a smaller guy in WWE or TNA, without it being the flukiest of wins, he's done. How does he ever beat another man on the roster?
Tomko's out.
Former WWE and TNA star Travis Tomko posted bail yesterday and was finally released from jail. He will be immediately heading to a drug rehab program sponsored by WWE.
Travis' attorney James McCune told The St. Augustine Record, "He’s very grateful for all the support he’s received from his friends, family and fans around the world. Mr. Tomko realizes he is struggling with an addiction and with the support of his family and the WWE, he is voluntarily checking himself into an undisclosed treatment facility to receive the help he needs for a successful recovery."
Tomko was arrested on 10/10 after allegedly stealing oxycodone from a local pharmacy. He was later found in a restaurant bathroom having melted down and injected the drug, according to police reports.
Former WWE and TNA star Travis Tomko posted bail yesterday and was finally released from jail. He will be immediately heading to a drug rehab program sponsored by WWE.
Travis' attorney James McCune told The St. Augustine Record, "He’s very grateful for all the support he’s received from his friends, family and fans around the world. Mr. Tomko realizes he is struggling with an addiction and with the support of his family and the WWE, he is voluntarily checking himself into an undisclosed treatment facility to receive the help he needs for a successful recovery."
Tomko was arrested on 10/10 after allegedly stealing oxycodone from a local pharmacy. He was later found in a restaurant bathroom having melted down and injected the drug, according to police reports.
I don't get the realism claim when the biggest company has dead people, sledgehammers, and attempted murder in story lines. Undertaker chokeslaming Edge straight to hell is no more realistic than Sara Del Ray wrestling a competitive match that the crowd cares about against Icarus. In fact it's a lot less realistic. I understand WWE fans are "educated" to let that kinda stuff slide, but it's certainly not realism that the WWE is tapping into.
I understand and agree to a point but it does come down to how you present your product. Where WWE fans can suspend disbelief that HHH is really wacking people with sledgehammers, they would not buy a guy who may have had some competitive match with Mark Henry or Kane or Khali one week, even toying around with a Natalya or even Beth Phoenix. To their credit, TNA got that when Kurt Angle was wanting to do a job to Kong when she was KO champion.
Let the women have good matches with each other and don't water down the divisions with models who are afraid to take bumps and who can't hit the ropes (the one thing Kelly Kelly does worse than the Thesz Press).
Yep. Around WMIII, instead of letting him retire, Vince should have given him a run.
Another guy who could have but didn't get a world title run in the 80's: Tully Blanchard
I saw 12 Large Summitt match between Del Ray and Claudio Castagnoli and it was great because it was believable and told a great story.Usually if you see a female-male dynamic in a wrestling match the woman is muscular and the guy is on the small side compared to the other wrestlers but in this case Castignoli is a jacked 250-260 pound guy.Dixie Carter will lose TNA because Spike will simply have to buy her out and it's WCW all over again.
Plus Stan Hansen and Doctor Death Steve Williams won the triple crown championship in all japan is considered a major world championship. Stan Hansen and Doctor Death were bigger in Japan than in the states.
Watching Smackdown tonight, I think WWE should make a play for Desmond Wolfe and pair him with Wade Barrett. Give them a manager like Cole, and I think they could be dope together.
Not to change the subject people, but why don't they just release Daniel Bryan?? He's losing every match and now to Wade Barrett who they are doing nothing with?! This dude won MITB(not like you'd know with this big ass losing streak he on) and they going down the same road with him they did with Low-Ki/Kaval. Fans want them to win but they job them out like a mother fucker. He has a set shot at the title and he's being treated as a jobber every night. I don't get it, he's not just losing but losing to guys they not pushing anyway. He could be fighting Miz, Truth,Ziggler, Ryder,Christian, Kofi, Bourne he should be in a feud or something that puts him over as a viable contender. Pardon my rant
They probably would have done that if he had passed the physical after signing with WWE.Currently Wolfe aka Nigel McGuinness is announcing for ROH and his in ring career appears to be over due to some undisclosed condition which is horrible because he had the potential to be big in the WWE.And he was in OVW for awhile years ago and the WWE didn't take advantage and sign him then for some reason.
Unless he asks for it or has another tie choking incident he'll stick around.The fact that Vince was the one to call when he got released before seems to mean that the company holds him in high regard besides he can pull a good match out of damn near anybody.I think that the plan is for him to cash in at Wrestlemania.That said in the near future they need to start building him up towards that.Hopefully it also means that Mark Henry is keeping the belt until then as well.
Haven't watched Smackdown in a WHILE, but is Bryan still Mr. MITB? Does he still have the briefcase?
If so then you're right. I completely forgot he won that match.
If so then you're right. I completely forgot he won that match.
Yes he is, but damn sure don't seem like it. I think they just gonna let that shit fade til people forget about it
I think if Magnum TA didn't get into that accident it would been Tully's best shot wining the NWA title .
Well as Dave has said, WWWE likes to push new talent and then job them out to see how they handle it. But to my knowledge they've only done that with heel like Sheamus & Barrett. Bryan haven't been jobing his entire stint like Kaval did. Bryan was some what undefeated for a while after his feud with the Miz. They're making Bryan save the mitb briefcase so that's he's the first person th cash it in at WM. The World title match will most likely end up being a triple threat match so that Bryan loses up gets an surprise win.
If i remember correctly, Arn beat him for the TV title. 2 of my top 10 right there Arn and Muta
