Mcdonalds Incident.... Self defense???

[gene cisco]

Video of the incident, which rapidly spread online, was played in court, but the excerpt did not include the moment as the women jumped over the counter. Prosecutors blamed the missing footage on a glitch in the recording.

And so the fuckery begins. You can pull a phone out and get a video that quick. The prosecution obviously knows it is on ho shit. A good defense lawyer would have just pulled out the fucking iPad and showed the full clip.....

"It's very clear [the two women] were coming after my client, who had in effect retreated to the rear part [of the kitchen] and was not seeking a confrontation," Herlich said, adding that his client didn't know if the women were armed at the time.

Exactly.

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[FIVEFIVE]

And so the fuckery begins. You can pull a phone out and get a video that quick. The prosecution obviously knows it is on ho shit. A good defense lawyer would have just pulled out the fucking iPad and showed the full clip.....



Exactly.

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Wow. They fucking with the evidence?? After millions saw the shit already??

 

[LoneStar29]

gene's views interest me. I think he's probably the only 1 around here who doesn't really sink to name calling and trying to insult you when he can't really keep up. He's a little condescending but so am i. He "fights" by trying to corner you into something by asking overtly charged questions. It may be him that caught me into revealing my personal feelings on this matter in the first place. I don't remember.

She liked him because he seemed pretty interested in black people and their welfare. But his line of thinking here i'm confused by. It almost seems as if the desire to beat women overrides anything rational. But i'm interested in seeing how he explains it.

I like when they do this though. It's good to see just how oddly they think from other men i miss. Did you like Drayonis' definition of being beaten? Dude just made up a whole new definition. lol

Drayonis is a bitch

and Gene is no better ... when he is ready he will start with the name calling and insults as well ... and I must have missed where he expressed interest in the welfare of black women

 

[ViCiouS]

Wow. They fucking with the evidence?? After millions saw the shit already??

Welcome to New York baby! This is the same DA's office that mishandled the Strauss-Kahn case - convicting a case in the press before investigating it.

Unfortunately for the DA - in this city, the average person on the street that sees the full video sympathizes with the defendant -and the DA has done a bunch of quick straw poles already... I've asked a few friends (lawyers. cops, journalists) they say its a hot topic, and word around is that of those who have seen the video -guy or girl, way more people sympathize with Mr. McIntosh than the girls.

It doesn't help that one of the girls' fathers gave an interview that sounds like he is following the talking points of a personal injury lawyer

Expect the Manhattan DA to taint everything

 

[John_Gault]

Wow. They fucking with the evidence?? After millions saw the shit already??

That is a tacit admission that the prosecution has a weak case.


1. The arresting officers NEVER charged the one female with an assault charge for the slap she delivered.

2. The Daily News NEVER included the 'slap' in their slanted coverage of the story.

3. The prosecution CONVENIENTLY uses an edited version of the video, WITHOUT the attackers jumping on and over the counter. And never explains HOW the attackers got behind the counter. Could be tampered video.

4. Assistant DA Jamie Mendoza, while stating that the attacker's actions were inappropriate seems to OMIT that she slapped the cashier.


JG

 

[gene cisco]

Drayonis is a bitch

and Gene is no better ... when he is ready he will start with the name calling and insults as well ... and I must have missed where he expressed interest in the welfare of black women

Hold up now. How did I get dragged into this? I agreed to disagree with the poster I was going back and forth with. No name calling. Nothing.

I express my interest in the welfare of BLACK PEOPLE all the time on this board. I don't know how this got into a black woman thing. Really I don't. I'm not going to attack you, just like I don't attack any of the other posters who may go off the deep end from time to time and attack me.

Hell, you seem like a true sport. Well at least you did in the "Does your woman let you cum on her face" thread.

 

[Sampson]

Damn, you guys must enjoy arguing with a troll who gets off on acting like a naive little fool. 28 pages? Go ahead. It's your time not mine.

 

[han2.0]

See gene. This is flaw. No matter what i say when it comes to personal questions? You're not going to think it's true. Or good enough. I've said before about what i think about women attacking people. I said it in this thread. BUT to you, in your mind. "You'd probably be screaming something else if this was a female". gene you don't know me to say something like that. AND you haven't asked me. AND you really don't CARE to. You're perfectly content in making things fit how you want them to fit. Which is why i don't like discussing personal views on these types of situations.

If You believe that maintaining self control and adhering to personal responsibility is flawed? Yeah. I fundamentally disagree with that.

Exactly...

could ask you "how tall are you" you could say the truth and he still wouldn't believe you.

 

[SlimKid07]

Cocoa and i were never WITH in order for either of us to "turn" on. As a matter of fact. If you're looking at the thread. Or looked at past post history(which i don't expect any rational person to do.) But if you were so inclined. You could look up the posts to Lone and Coco, And see that they've never really had any type of negative interaction with 1 another. Untl Coco threw her jabs at Lone. You can disagree with people without trying to throw them under the boss. You can keep silent. I see threads and posts of other posters attacking others all the time. And it could very well be unprovoked. Just because i may not personally like the guy? I can comment and answer a question without trying to throw jabs at someone else.

Agreed.

You agreed it was excessive. And at least 20 other men in here have agreed it was excessive. It's not just Lone and i. That's another 1 of the things that makes me laugh about this thread. It's made to look like we're the only 2 who think this. Like we're the ONLY 2 who share this idea.

I think you missed my point. I also agreed it was excessive and was part of the 20 other men who said so. After they were down, he could have moved himself out of harm's way.
The reason why I point out you two is because your comments seem to minimize the attackers actions and focus solely on what the guy did, then going in on black men. Because of that, the back and forth has caused this thread to grow exponentially.

lol there wasn't an emotional response from me. You're making assumptions without knowing me. Every single poster who's approached me respectfully. Has been met with the same respect. The posters who've attacked me? Got the same. I care nothing about the gender of the people. I care nothing about the LOOKS of the women involved. Anyone who knows me would tell you i don't care. My argument is about what the people in charge will see. I've given my personal views. And they had nothing to do with the sex of the people involved.

My assumption of an emotional response stemmed from your intense participation in the thread and your assessment that because the man struck these women in self defense, that the majority of the men feel like this is "putting a woman in her place" or getting back at some of the more aggressive lesbians.
Let's be clear, there are a few that do feel that but I think the majority of ppl feel like the women got their comeuppance after acting like animals.

You guys are making points to try to justify actions. Go by what is seen. Not by what you feel. If i went by what i felt i'd say the guy was Drayonis and just always wanted to clobber women and he saw a chance to finally let loose the dragon. Could be how he felt. You don't know right?

You're right we don't know but I find it interesting going by what you feel, you think the guy, to his delight, finally got a free chance to clobber women?
That goes back to my initial question of this getting an emotional response from you because it involved a man hitting on two gay women. Again, one JUMPED the counter and came into a restricted area as he was walking away and another came from another angle. That made it a Fight or Flight situation and he chose to fight because they were right up on him doing something ridiculous. Again if it was me I would have removed myself from the situation way sooner. Excessive at the end definitely though.

What if when she slapped him he called the police immediately? He could be tryin to never go back to the pen.What if What if What if. What if he never agitated them to begin with? What if whatever he said never escalated this whole thing to begin with? What if when she first gave him the 50, he just immediately handed it to the manager? What if?

What IF........he slapped her back? What if when he pushed her back after she slapped him? He jumped over the counter and beat her down with fists and during the process he hit her just right killed her?

I don't like playing what if. It's kind of like those old choose your own adventure books.

According to reports she was already going at other workers and he did give the 50 to his manager.
Ha, and why in your what if, does he become the aggressor? She's the one that acted a fool and came over the counter. Do you see how you keep coming back at the man and even making him worse in your scenarios?

My what if... What if he stopped after a few whacks? Would he still be condemned?

Another thing I find fascinating about this is the white women's reaction to the dude. While the women are acting a fool, she isn't saying anything. When she smacks the guy. Nothing.
When that idiot jumps over the counter and the other girl also goes back. Nothing.
But the minute the brotha starts whacking, she's all.. STOPSTOP
God, STFU white lady.

Black men, black people have it rough.

 

[Rock'Em Sock'Em Jones]

Damn, you guys must enjoy arguing with a troll who gets off on acting like a naive little fool. 28 pages? Go ahead. It's your time not mine.

Shit is crazy. And even more sad that a lot of these cats don't even realize that they are talking/arguing w/ multiple people behind that one screen name.

 

[cocobeauty]

Yes you did hit a nerve ... I've always been very respectful towards you ... there was absolutely NO reason for you to come at me sideways

You're an old crusty bitch trying "fit in" and get props from random losers online

Why worry about my child when you have a husband and kids to worry about yourself??? YOU are on here as well instead living your fabulous loving life

Or so you claim ... I doubt you even have a husband.... anyone can be anything online

You're probably some 300 pound buck toothed pigeon toed slut

LOL @ that last line ... aint nobody scared of your old raggedy retarded bandwagon jumping ass ... I dont leave room for error unlike those mcdonalds heffas

Oh my god stop all the damn crying, You don't know me and i damn sure don't know you. Funny how all you can come with is I'm old and a lot of name calling....how big of you. You just better hope you see this age being bitter and angry all the time before you stroke out.

Im a bandwagon jumper because I don't agree with you...see having my own opinion is what makes me mature. As far as what I don't have, do your homework, I'm sure your people are helping you. And yes I'm on here, but look at my join date and post count and look at yours.

Again I'm looking for props from some online losers, but who posted their breast????? Again go take of your son, before he grow up and resent you.

Like I said careful who you fucking with babygirl.




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[Tech]

another update

Mom of burger flipper caught on video beating two McDonald's customers defends son

BY Trevor Kapp
DAILY NEWS WRITER

Wednesday, October 19th 2011, 4:00 AM

The mom of the burger flipper caught on video beating two unruly McDonald's customers insists her ex-con son was just trying to get his life together when things went wrong on the late shift.

Rayon McIntosh appeared in Manhattan Criminal Court yesterday to face assault and weapons charges in the Greenwich Village beatdown seen round the Net.

"My son is a loving individual - not a criminal," said the 52-year-old mom, who did not give her name. "He wasn't walking the streets and looking for a fight or trying to rob somebody. He was working."

McIntosh, 31, spent more than a decade behind bars in the 2000 slaying of a classmate.

In the incident last Thursday at the Mickey D's on W. Third St., he apparently snapped when Denise Darbeau and Rachel Edwards, both 24, allegedly lobbed a barrage of insults at him and co-workers.

Michael Joseph, who was also working that night, testified that one of the women yelled at a third employee: "F--k you! I hope you get deported."

When the two women jumped over the counter, he said, McIntosh grabbed a metal rod and started hitting the two. Darbeau suffered a fractured skull.

McIntosh was held in lieu of $40,000 bail and is due in court Dec. 2.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_...m_backs_son_in_mcds_attack.html#ixzz1bEEac39m

 

[pookie]

Everything happens for a reason. True enough the ladies were wrong but they were no real threat. But he did prove to be a bigger devil than them.
The saying that white people are devils and black people are god. At one time we use to be ourselves. But that part of history is hide from us. As long as we continue to be drugged and programmed by this society we can expect to see more of that.
If by chance we can get control of ourselves. We can get our true identity back. Then we can provide the programming of the world. Free from their education, politics, religion, and laws. And we would not have to go to them for jobs but provide our own jobs for ourselves and our women and children.
One of the things i do know is that as a black person do not ever get ignorant with the devil or he will kill you. But if you are in the right you will be victorious. Right now no righteous black person can get ignorant with the devil and win. These people are in other countries lying and killing poor innocent people and getting billions of dollars for it. And we are supporting them. It is getting like the days of the roman empire. Where for amusement people go to arena to watch a loin chase down an man and eat him. The seed to rejoice in evil has been planted.

 

[Count23]

Everything happens for a reason. True enough the ladies were wrong but they were no real threat. But he did prove to be a bigger devil than them.
The saying that white people are devils and black people are god. At one time we use to be ourselves. But that part of history is hide from us. As long as we continue to be drugged and programmed by this society we can expect to see more of that.
If by chance we can get control of ourselves. We can get our true identity back. Then we can provide the programming of the world. Free from their education, politics, religion, and laws. And we would not have to go to them for jobs but provide our own jobs for ourselves and our women and children.
One of the things i do know is that as a black person do not ever get ignorant with the devil or he will kill you. But if you are in the right you will be victorious. Right now no righteous black person can get ignorant with the devil and win. These people are in other countries lying and killing poor innocent people and getting billions of dollars for it. And we are supporting them. It is getting like the days of the roman empire. Where for amusement people go to arena to watch a loin chase down an man and eat him. The seed to rejoice in evil has been planted.

 

[LoneStar29]

Oh my god stop all the damn crying, You don't know me and i damn sure don't know you. Funny how all you can come with is I'm old and a lot of name calling....how big of you. You just better hope you see this age being bitter and angry all the time before you stroke out.

Im a bandwagon jumper because I don't agree with you...see having my own opinion is what makes me mature. As far as what I don't have, do your homework, I'm sure your people are helping you. And yes I'm on here, but look at my join date and post count and look at yours.

Again I'm looking for props from some online losers, but who posted their breast????? Again go take of your son, before he grow up and resent you.

Like I said careful who you fucking with babygirl.




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Bitch you are on a fucking porn board ... this is a porn board where the inside of womens crevices are posted every fuckin day ... a board where most of the women who post here have showed TONS of skin, ass, pussy and everything ... you have something to say about MY ONE tittie pic but nothing to say about everyone else's pussy being posted on here??

Exactly ... like I said before you are a bandwagon jumping crypt keeper hoe ... you're grasping at straws to get cool points and its a bigger fail than the life you pretend to have online. We are ALL members of a porn board so take your fat ugly ass off that damn high horse you are on

You are damn right you dont know me ... but that didnt stop your cottage cheese aging ass from comin at me huh?? How Big of YOU to start shit just to get cool points rotfl You are such a stupid trick starting shit then tryin act all above it Old slut

 

[Count23]

Damn, you guys must enjoy arguing with a troll who gets off on acting like a naive little fool. 28 pages? Go ahead. It's your time not mine.

After watching gene's back and forth all I can say is .

 

[Darrkman]

So to you, him controlling himself was walking away to get a weapon? I disagree with this. I don't think that was evidence of self control at all. Personally speaking.

You're making the assumption he left to get a weapon. He was slapped and walked away THEN both chicks followed him. None of is here can say he took off just to go get that metal bar.

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[Drayonis]

Why worry about my child

Do you think your child will be proud that you've posted naked pictures of yourself online? For free no less, for strangers you don't know?

coco has a point.

 

[Drayonis]

You assumed. I was beaten, by a man no less. In my view. Beaten is what that guy did to them in this video. In my understanding, beaten is repeated blows to the person by another person.

A slap does not constitute a beating. You believe that a slap. 1 slap. Is a beating? We have different views of this word.

slapped or beaten. semantics. You were "assaulted", I'm guessing by a man (you still haven't answered that) and now you're projecting. You believe the man who slapped you as a weak man, who's weak and sorry and since he got away with it, humiliated you, you've spent a lot of time grafting that onto others. It's okay to feel that way, and I understand that it had to be traumatic, but you have to overcome that and uses common sense.

*Now I will say this, I think after they were on the ground, he went overboard but I'll never say he was wrong. He had a right to defend himself, two people were charging him.

 

[Drayonis]

another update

Mom of burger flipper caught on video beating two McDonald's customers defends son

BY Trevor Kapp
DAILY NEWS WRITER

Wednesday, October 19th 2011, 4:00 AM

The mom of the burger flipper caught on video beating two unruly McDonald's customers insists her ex-con son was just trying to get his life together when things went wrong on the late shift.

Rayon McIntosh appeared in Manhattan Criminal Court yesterday to face assault and weapons charges in the Greenwich Village beatdown seen round the Net.

"My son is a loving individual - not a criminal," said the 52-year-old mom, who did not give her name. "He wasn't walking the streets and looking for a fight or trying to rob somebody. He was working."

McIntosh, 31, spent more than a decade behind bars in the 2000 slaying of a classmate.

In the incident last Thursday at the Mickey D's on W. Third St., he apparently snapped when Denise Darbeau and Rachel Edwards, both 24, allegedly lobbed a barrage of insults at him and co-workers.

Michael Joseph, who was also working that night, testified that one of the women yelled at a third employee: "F--k you! I hope you get deported."

When the two women jumped over the counter, he said, McIntosh grabbed a metal rod and started hitting the two. Darbeau suffered a fractured skull.

McIntosh was held in lieu of $40,000 bail and is due in court Dec. 2.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_...m_backs_son_in_mcds_attack.html#ixzz1bEEac39m

I keep asking where I can donate.

 

[LoneStar29]

Do you think your child will be proud that you've posted naked pictures of yourself online? For free no less, for strangers you don't know?

coco has a point.

Do you worry about the children of the rest of the women on here who have posted the insides of their pussies?? Do you worry about the future kids of the girls who have posted their assholes on here??? How about the children of the porn stars you gawk over every night while posting on THE PORN BORD WE ARE ALL MEMBERS OF???

You dont worry about that shit with anyone else except for me ... you dont bring up any ones children no matter how fucked up that person behaves. That is MY point ... you guys are just hypocritical assholes that bring my son up as a last ditch effort to try and hurt me ... that shit doesnt faze me though cuz we are ALL on here together and we have ALL done dirt ... no one person is better than the other regardless of how much you losers try and kick me down

At some point though your bitch ass has to deal with your demons from the past and stop projecting your shit on to me ... just cuz that hoe played your ass for 3 years doesnt mean you need to hate on me just cuz I am a single mom too, I am NOT that bitch ... for real your shit is getting old

 

[cocobeauty]

Bitch you are on a fucking porn board ... this is a porn board where the inside of womens crevices are posted every fuckin day ... a board where most of the women who post here have showed TONS of skin, ass, pussy and everything ... you have something to say about MY ONE tittie pic but nothing to say about everyone else's pussy being posted on here??

Exactly ... like I said before you are a bandwagon jumping crypt keeper hoe ... you're grasping at straws to get cool points and its a bigger fail than the life you pretend to have online. We are ALL members of a porn board so take your fat ugly ass off that damn high horse you are on

You are damn right you dont know me ... but that didnt stop your cottage cheese aging ass from comin at me huh?? How Big of YOU to start shit just to get cool points rotfl You are such a stupid trick starting shit then tryin act all above it Old slut

Anything else? Because I need your bipolar ass to get your anger out so you can enjoy like. I bet you take this out on your son too...

This why you can't get a man...too damn angry.

Ok I'm going to WORK now, something you obviously don't do.


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[LoneStar29]

Anything else? Because I need your bipolar ass to get your anger out so you can enjoy like. I bet you take this out on your son too...

This why you can't get a man...too damn angry.

Ok I'm going to WORK now, something you obviously don't do.


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You let me know if there is anything else??? It was your old ass that came at ME first remember?? Did you get all the props you wanted?? Are you done or do you still need some more high-5's to make up for the fact that you live a pathetic real life???

Or is it that you are running away from something YOU started??

This bitch is all of 45 years old online hating on women who have never disrespected her ... it must really suck to be such a jealous old hoe Attention starved cunt

 

[Drayonis]

Do you worry about the children of the rest of the women on here who have posted the insides of their pussies?? Do you worry about the future kids of the girls who have posted their assholes on here??? How about the children of the porn stars you gawk over every night while posting on THE PORN BORD WE ARE ALL MEMBERS OF???

I rarely look at porn on here. Those women got paid though. What was your motivation?

 

[LoneStar29]

I rarely look at porn on here. Those women got paid though. What was your motivation?

@ the bolded ... GTFOH ... you're just lying for the sake of acting brand new in this argument smfh

My motivation to post ONE pic of my breasts?? Really?? Its hilarious to me how you hatin ass jerks try and take that one picture and paint me as this horrible person cuz of it

Rotfl

its one pic of the top half of my body, it aint that big of a deal, the world is not ending cuz of it

Go ask the female members of this board whose pussy holes are on display on here THEN come talk to me about the ONE pic of my titties lmaooo fuckin faggot ... you argue like a female ... like a gossipy little white bitch from "mean girls" rotfl

 

[KW13537]

Everything happens for a reason. True enough the ladies were wrong but they were no real threat. But he did prove to be a bigger devil than them.
The saying that white people are devils and black people are god. At one time we use to be ourselves. But that part of history is hide from us. As long as we continue to be drugged and programmed by this society we can expect to see more of that.
If by chance we can get control of ourselves. We can get our true identity back. Then we can provide the programming of the world. Free from their education, politics, religion, and laws. And we would not have to go to them for jobs but provide our own jobs for ourselves and our women and children.
One of the things i do know is that as a black person do not ever get ignorant with the devil or he will kill you. But if you are in the right you will be victorious. Right now no righteous black person can get ignorant with the devil and win. These people are in other countries lying and killing poor innocent people and getting billions of dollars for it. And we are supporting them. It is getting like the days of the roman empire. Where for amusement people go to arena to watch a loin chase down an man and eat him. The seed to rejoice in evil has been planted.

While I agree with most of what you're saying, how was he supposed to know that these women didn't pose a threat? That's monday morning quarterbacking. YOU know this NOW, but HE didn't know that THEN. And he's a devil for defending himself? If those women didn't do what they did, he would have continued on with his day and nobody would have ever heard of the three of them.

 

[Darrkman]

I'm disgusted at the coverage the NY Daily News is giving this case. Never once do they mention that the woman slapped this dude. It's like they are trying to get him put away.

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[cocobeauty]

You let me know if there is anything else??? It was your old ass that came at ME first remember?? Did you get all the props you wanted?? Are you done or do you still need some more high-5's to make up for the fact that you live a pathetic real life???

Or is it that you are running away from something YOU started??

This bitch is all of 45 years old online hating on women who have never disrespected her ... it must really suck to be such a jealous old hoe Attention starved cunt

Hating on YOU!!!!!! Jealous, of what?????? Lone seriously what do you have going for you?

Baby why would ANYONE hate on you????? You really are delusional you're yelling and screaming like a madwoman. Calm the fuck down.

Oh I'm 43 and proud of it. So I'll be an old whatever you want me to be. So keep the name calling coming.




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[jasonblacc]

I keep asking where I can donate.

You can probably donate your money to something better.

 

[Drayonis]

You can probably donate your money to something better.

I think the attackers were in the wrong and the press is being unfair. So I'm going to back the person I think needs the support. If he attacked them, they would be getting my support.

 

[ZuluSam]

Got Damn..will you girls take that shit to PM and quit making a nicca have to scroll through all ya'lls bullshit posts to get to post actually dealing with the thread!!!

 

[Darrkman]

Oh I'm 43 and proud of it. So I'll be an old whatever you want me to be. So keep the name calling coming.


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What's wrong with being 43? I'm 42. Why do people think being called old hurts feelings?

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[TheFuser]

 

[NewyorkRealTalk]

Anything else? Because I need your bipolar ass to get your anger out so you can enjoy like. I bet you take this out on your son too...

This why you can't get a man...too damn angry.

Ok I'm going to WORK now, something you obviously don't do.


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I'll use this instead to show my point.



disclaimer: It means Catfight, both of yall mad, arguing on the internet. It seems so to me.

 

[LoneStar29]

Hating on YOU!!!!!! Jealous, of what?????? Lone seriously what do you have going for you?

Baby why would ANYONE hate on you????? You really are delusional you're yelling and screaming like a madwoman. Calm the fuck down.

Oh I'm 43 and proud of it. So I'll be an old whatever you want me to be. So keep the name calling coming.




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10 LOL smilies arent going to hide your jealousy boo ... you're an old wrinkled up hasbeen cunt who is seeking approval online from an e-gang ... jealous that I am younger, jealous that I still have a body to post pics of, jealous that I can hold my own without hoping on bandwagons, jealous that my pussy still has a bottom ... you name it, you're jealous of it ... thats why you've been lurking in the cut waiting for an opportunity to hate

You're an old pathetic slut who cums powder

keep up the hate heffa, it keeps me young