Official BREAKING BAD Season 4 Discussion Thread 10p SUNDAYS

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But U know Hank's walking right? I mentioned that in my post - watch the scene when he comes into the station right after Marie was screaming that he's not going anywhere from the house.
He wasnt using a wheelchair if Im not mistaken in the wrap up.
He'll be doing cartwheels by the next show.
But like u said, he still has bills & has to pay off balances that he or she said they would.


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Yeah, saw Hank walking with his cane and he mentioned that he wanted to get a car so he wasn't dependent upon others driving him around. He's gonna need Walt's money for that shit. Seriously doubt that insurance covers that expense.
 
I just wanted to add that Giancarlo Esposito was Fucking Excellent. He's come a long way from being Spike Lee's go to guy.

I hope this brings him some major recognition and more roles.

He was great in the Spike Lee films as well. He as always been extremely versatile as a actor.
 
The show lost me a bit this week. The only way for this show to end properly is for Walt and his entire family to die brutally. The simple fact is that if Gustavo was making as much money as he appeared to making off meth, he has a lot of connections that look to him for their supply. So if Walt's making 7.5 million a year as a chemist and Jesse is making the same. 15 million a year. Which mean's Gus is probably making ten times that. Then whoever Gus sells to is making millions off his product. Walt just destroyed that network.

How am I after watching the Mexican drug gangs do to people that fuck up their networks going to buy anything but the brutal annihilation of Walt and his family? I won't.

If Gilligan takes these series anywhere but to its logical conclusion, I won't much buy it. No way Walt survives killing a dealer on the level of Gus. Too much money flowing from Gus. You kill the money train, you die. Too many people have seen both Jesse and Walt at the laundry as well as all the recorded video Gus has to avoid them being known.

I've invested four years watching the show. I'll check out the next season just to see what's up. But I think they lost me this season. Only way I'll ever consider this show even close to on par with The Wire, The Shield or any of the great dramas is if it ends the way it should. I don't mean just Walt dying. I mean full on retaliation.

As in fully circle Walt ends up destroying that which was his entire original purpose for getting into the drug business: his family. And brutally too. If Breaking Bad wants to stay true to its nature, then Walt and his family should end up like Tuco, Tortuga, Eladio, and Gustavo. This isn't about winning, because there is no winning in the drug business. It's dirty and there is always someone smarter, dirtier, and more evil than you.

I agree. Dude and his family would be dead. Actually, he probably should have been dead two seasons ago.

But the shit makes for great TV.
 
I've invested four years watching the show. I'll check out the next season just to see what's up. But I think they lost me this season. Only way I'll ever consider this show even close to on par with The Wire, The Shield or any of the great dramas is if it ends the way it should. I don't mean just Walt dying. I mean full on retaliation.

:lol::lol::lol: @ your whining. This has been a really great season, so your nitpicking is :lol: worthy.

Breaking Bad >> The Shield (I'm a fan, but it's not on the level of this show, and about as realistic since you're knocking Breaking Bad on it's realism)

The Wire is still the best show, but Breaking Bad is right behind that (Yes, it's better than Sopranos also).
 
:lol::lol::lol: @ your whining. This has been a really great season, so your nitpicking is :lol: worthy.

Breaking Bad >> The Shield (I'm a fan, but it's not on the level of this show, and about as realistic since you're knocking Breaking Bad on it's realism)

The Wire is still the best show, but Breaking Bad is right behind that (Yes, it's better than Sopranos also).
Maybe its better than the Sopranos, but better than Rome or Deadwood too?
:smh:

com to think of it - it doesn't matter which better than the other - I just wish we had more really good shows to enjoy, instead of the BS on network and most of cable
 
Currently writing a loose obituary of Gus. Hopefully you guys will support that thread with some views and responses. The missus and i are distraught over the loss of him on the show lol. He was one of the great all time tv villians/character.
 
Walt shady as hell!! He always using Jesse to do his dirt!! Lily of the valley?? That was some shady shit!!!:smh:
 
He was one of the great all time tv villians/character.

referring to gustavo as a villain may be overstating the case. a criminal for sure, but villain seems a little heavy handed.

for example, without walt's spin, it seemed apparent to me that gustavo compassionately took in jesse in much the same way he took in the orphaned cook (murdered by hector salamanca).
 
walt & those god dammed wallabee clarks!

He wore them Muthafuckas the whole 4 seasons, nothing else!

Did this cac grow up on staten island, cac straight from parkhill!
 
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walt & those god dammed wallabee clarks!

He wore them Muthafuckas the whole 4 seasons, nothing else!

Did this cac grow up on staten island, cac straight from parkhill!

:lol:

I forgot to mention Heisenburg's the Wallaben Don Killa.

I used to rock them shits in 1st - 3rd grade onsome 70s shit where alot of the old timers were doing the same.

And what the hell ever happened to Mike?! That mug was O.G!!:yes:
OG's old ass has to heal that hole in his chest especially since Gus' loyal workers would only get to him when they made sure that their meal ticket was straight first;
he aint as young as he used to be so can imagine that it will take a while for him to be out, running & regulating shit once again;

Like someone else mentioned already as well as myself, there are TOO MANY FOLK NOT EATING due to their boss being gone so there NEEDS TO BE & WIll be some sort of retribution with all them hungry goons & mercs waiting around for their next phone call, once they figure that their employer, 3 of their peers & the whole lab is just missing & destroyed:hmm:

WallyWallabe won the battle but he aint built for the real war but let's see if the writers conveniently turn another corner like none of that could be possible:rolleyes::hmm:



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referring to gustavo as a villain may be overstating the case. a criminal for sure, but villain seems a little heavy handed.

for example, without walt's spin, it seemed apparent to me that gustavo compassionately took in jesse in much the same way he took in the orphaned cook (murdered by hector salamanca).

yea i think that calling gus a villian is a bit extreme as well.

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:lol:

I forgot to mention Heisenburg's the Wallaben Don Killa.

I used to rock them shits in 1st - 3rd grade onsome 70s shit where alot of the old timers were doing the same.


OG's old ass has to heal that hole in his chest especially since Gus' loyal workers would only get to him when they made sure that their meal ticket was straight first;
he aint as young as he used to be so can imagine that it will take a while for him to be out, running & regulating shit once again;

Like someone else mentioned already as well as myself, there are TOO MANY FOLK NOT EATING due to their boss being gone so there NEEDS TO BE & WIll be some sort of retribution with all them hungry goons & mercs waiting around for their next phone call, once they figure that their employer, 3 of their peers & the whole lab is just missing & destroyed:hmm:

WallyWallabe won the battle but he aint built for the real war but let's see if the writers conveniently turn another corner like none of that could be possible:rolleyes::hmm:



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man i hope the fuck not...
 
And what the hell ever happened to Mike?! That mug was O.G!!:yes:

He'll undoubtedly return from Mexico at some point in season 5. He got shot in the body and all.

Either he'll team up with Walt (for whatever reason(s)) ... or he'll stay loyal to Gus ... and try to take out Walt and/or Jesse both.
 
He'll undoubtedly return from Mexico at some point in season 5. He got shot in the body and all.

Either he'll team up with Walt (for whatever reason(s)) ... or he'll stay loyal to Gus ... and try to take out Walt and/or Jesse both.

i think mike is going to expose walt to jessie some how.
 
i think mike is going to expose walt to jessie some how.

For sure. Should be some interesting creative minds writing up the final run of the series for 2012. So many ways you could bring Mike back.

- Bring him back to align with Walt and/or Jesse?
- Have him side with Jesse and take out Walt?
- Have him side with Walt and take out others?
- Walt die from cancer?
- Walt quiz the biz?
- Walt get blasted?
- Walt kill himself in despair after all that's gone on since he got into the meth game?
- The list goes on ...
- Definitely hope there's more HANK / WALT scenes though ... the tension is always great ... with Walt trying to remain 1 step ahead
 
He'll undoubtedly return from Mexico at some point in season 5. He got shot in the body and all.

Either he'll team up with Walt (for whatever reason(s)) ... or he'll stay loyal to Gus ... and try to take out Walt and/or Jesse both.

well the whole operation got shut down... burned to the ground and I doubt Mike is going to be able to do anything but go on the run.... who knows they'll still come back with a season 5 but this should be the end imo
 


Very good tribute clips for Breaking Bad. AKA - the BGOL-approved AMC series that many of us have been rockin' to since 2008. Keep an eye on the 2012 Emmy Awards ... 'cuz this show will be collecting. Season 4 ... we all know it was the shit :yes:

The 01:45 mark onward of the first clip is heavy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqXXwVkLGDw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCHxh9ehEvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=melXskmjUcs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEK2qHSkrd8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l92Fy1S37Hc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjEhXoLaunA
http://www.youtube.com/user/DanielThomasMcBride
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/09/idUS233462123820111009
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/09/idUS331912902420111009


Giancarlo Esposito, who plays fast food mogul and crystal meth mastermind Gustavo "Gus" Fring on AMC's "Breaking Bad," told producers who kept inviting him back for guest appearances that he wasn't interested: He wanted a regular role on the series, one that would let him explore all of his character's many secrets.


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The show's fourth season has cemented its status as one of the best TV dramas ever, and, we might even argue, the best TV show ever, period. Fans of "The Wire" and "The Sopranos" and "Mad Men" will make their own arguments, but we challenge anyone to honestly point to another series that, episode after episode, season after season, entertains as much as this one.












 
referring to gustavo as a villain may be overstating the case. a criminal for sure, but villain seems a little heavy handed.

for example, without walt's spin, it seemed apparent to me that gustavo compassionately took in jesse in much the same way he took in the orphaned cook (murdered by hector salamanca).

let's no forget what Gus is/was. Everything he did had ulterior motives. And since when has drug king pins ever been liked in their community. Just cause Bryan da Palma (scarface) and Mario van peebles (new jack city) shows scenes that makes them endearing to us, doesn't mean their character hasn't done hundreds of despicable acts to make us wish someone didn't take him out sooner. For example, If he had 50 mill to give to the cartel to try to silence the Walt/twins beef, how much do you think this man had under his proverbial floorboards? 200,300 mill? How many lives were devastated for even a fraction of that money. Gus is the worst kinda villian. just my thought.
 
I think Walt and Jesse fucked up when they burned down the laudrymat/methlab..Remember how Gus would watch everthing on his laptop back at the chicken joint. Im thinking what if that stuff was being recorded. You know its a matter of time before the DEA finds it
 
I think Walt and Jesse fucked up when they burned down the laudrymat/methlab..Remember how Gus would watch everthing on his laptop back at the chicken joint. Im thinking what if that stuff was being recorded. You know its a matter of time before the DEA finds it
it most likely was just a live feed
 
:lol::lol::lol: @ your whining. This has been a really great season, so your nitpicking is :lol: worthy.

Breaking Bad >> The Shield (I'm a fan, but it's not on the level of this show, and about as realistic since you're knocking Breaking Bad on it's realism)

The Wire is still the best show, but Breaking Bad is right behind that (Yes, it's better than Sopranos also).

We'll see when we look bad if it is all that good. You're in the moment right now, so you are loving it. I watched The Sopranos, it fell off for the same reason Breaking Bad is falling off for me. It is becoming all about Walt even if the story that drives it makes no sense.

People will analyze later on where a story went and how realistic it really was, then decide how it rates. The ending of The Shield made that show legendary from beginning to end. The show ended exactly as it should have, with the Strike Team destroyed, Vic neutered, and Vic as a sell out.

If Breaking Bad ends as it should, Walt and his entirely family should be brutally killed. If it ends that way, this show will be legendary. If it doesn't, it will be just another show with some great seasons. Like The Sopranos.

Like I said at the moment the show was jumped the shark of believability for me. It can get me back by showing the cost of Walt's actions. It's been a slow escalation. He kills a couple of small timers trying to push up on him. Then he kills a slightly bigger guy with Tuco. Then he has killed a major cartel kingpin in Gus. A guy with enough money and power to take a Mexican drug lord, hire doctors to take care of him in Mexico, and to pay his chemist's 15 million a year. Which mean he was selling as a distributor probably ten times or more than that amount, which means he has suppliers that must be making even more selling.

So what you think is going to happen to a guy that does that? To his family. To anyone he knows. To fuck up a drug operation that size?

I'm going to give the show a chance because I've followed it this long and it has been good. But things have to end appropriately. That's what make a show legendary. A weak ending will ruin this show.

I'm going to believe in the writers and give them a shot and hope they don't keep it too goofy with Walt outsmarting every guy that comes after him. Drug lords don't care about intelligence. You fuck with them, they destroy you.

I don't even know why Walt is still alive or why it took so long for Gustavo to find someone to synthesize Walt's formula. Reverse engineering is fairly easy for even a halfway decent chemist.

And at the end of the day, you have your opinion and I have mine. You feel like you've been satisfied from beginning to end, then you pay your money or spend your time on a show. You don't feel that way, you don't.

Right now I don't feel that way about Breaking Bad like I do The Shield or The Wire. They were good from beginning to end, though I think The Shield had the best ending of any of major series to date. It all came home to roost at the end of that series.
 
Mike is going to be the key for Walt and Jesse to cook again and make some money. Mike knows the people Gus did business with. He knows the infrastructure on how Gus business worked. He is muscle and also has goons on deck.

It will be interesting to see how Walt and Jesse get basic necessities to cook like those chemicals that they had to steal before they worked with Gus. I can't see them going back to cooking in a RV again.:smh:
 
We'll see when we look bad if it is all that good. You're in the moment right now, so you are loving it. I watched The Sopranos, it fell off for the same reason Breaking Bad is falling off for me. It is becoming all about Walt even if the story that drives it makes no sense.

People will analyze later on where a story went and how realistic it really was, then decide how it rates. The ending of The Shield made that show legendary from beginning to end. The show ended exactly as it should have, with the Strike Team destroyed, Vic neutered, and Vic as a sell out.

If Breaking Bad ends as it should, Walt and his entirely family should be brutally killed. If it ends that way, this show will be legendary. If it doesn't, it will be just another show with some great seasons. Like The Sopranos.

Like I said at the moment the show was jumped the shark of believability for me. It can get me back by showing the cost of Walt's actions. It's been a slow escalation. He kills a couple of small timers trying to push up on him. Then he kills a slightly bigger guy with Tuco. Then he has killed a major cartel kingpin in Gus. A guy with enough money and power to take a Mexican drug lord, hire doctors to take care of him in Mexico, and to pay his chemist's 15 million a year. Which mean he was selling as a distributor probably ten times or more than that amount, which means he has suppliers that must be making even more selling.

So what you think is going to happen to a guy that does that? To his family. To anyone he knows. To fuck up a drug operation that size?

I'm going to give the show a chance because I've followed it this long and it has been good. But things have to end appropriately. That's what make a show legendary. A weak ending will ruin this show.

I'm going to believe in the writers and give them a shot and hope they don't keep it too goofy with Walt outsmarting every guy that comes after him. Drug lords don't care about intelligence. You fuck with them, they destroy you.

I don't even know why Walt is still alive or why it took so long for Gustavo to find someone to synthesize Walt's formula. Reverse engineering is fairly easy for even a halfway decent chemist.

And at the end of the day, you have your opinion and I have mine. You feel like you've been satisfied from beginning to end, then you pay your money or spend your time on a show. You don't feel that way, you don't.

Right now I don't feel that way about Breaking Bad like I do The Shield or The Wire. They were good from beginning to end, though I think The Shield had the best ending of any of major series to date. It all came home to roost at the end of that series.

I AGREE with EVERY POINT...

but too say that the show is becoming wack because it centers on the main character makes no sense...

The reason ALL of these shows were considered great and classic is because of the anchors of the show, these anti-heroes...

And the OUTSTANDING ACTORS who portray them...

The sopranos become "wack" because the writers got bored and were reading so much of their own press and tried to make it "deeper"" then it was ..

and OBVIOUSLY never thought of an ending.

The Wire is one of the best (if not the best) because it was TRULY a novel and had a beginning and a middle and end with shifting leads and story arcs that were extraordinarily well thought out and performed.

Breaking Bad much like Mad Men, the Shield, The Wire touched a nerve with the public because at there core we can identify with the message ...

EVERY MAN who has been out of work or is stuck in a shitty job can identify with Walt...

We all WANT to be GUS but we identify with Walt...

We all wish secretly were were Vic in The Shield and cool like Don Draper...

but we identify with their weaknesses and darkness.

I actually cheered for Walt and was disappointed in JESSE for not being more loyal...

Because I can identify with Walt's plights with the economy and family and cancer and not Jesse a privileged white kid who squandered it on meth.

But I STILL agree with all your points...

And although I loved it Sopranos WAS OUTSTANDING...

but doesn't age well and is overrated.

I think Deadwood will be more appreciated over time as a MUCH slept on series.
 
^^ yeah people sleeping on Deadwood....

Breaking Bad got lame... that whole thing with Gus' face at the end had me like :hmm:...if the series ended here that would be cool... or at least if there was a twist in the story... but cooking meth in NM with the mexican mafia Hank and the DEA is done imo... that story ran its course... maybe if they move to LA and start cooking X :dunno:
 
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