Official BREAKING BAD Season 4 Discussion Thread 10p SUNDAYS

I think it is possible that Walt did it. Only he didn't poison the kid with ricin, he just gave him something to make him sick and got the cigarette ( the bodyguard took it when he frisked him) making Jesse think that Gus took it. Walt got Saul to help him get Jesse to want Gus dead.

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We ALL know Saul aint gonna want to be THAT involved especially with the track record of messing up that Jesse and Walt have.

I think this is gonna be a HUGE TWIST like MIKE was involved or some shit.

Cause there are too MANY loose threads like Skylar's old boss?
 
like one of you all said. I think gus is about the business. If jesse is worried about the kid, or if kid dies its trouble. #1 jesse would miss work time, and #2 it could send him back to using drugs, and that definitely fuck up gustavo's money
 
re: ted's fate

in the episode podcast the writers shy away from directly answering what happened to ted (dead/alive).

but IF ted's not dead, it would be sloppy and lazy writing.

here's why:

the plan was to have the 2 goons stay with ted until the check cleared. that could take several days, and they indicated that they were prepared to stay with ted for the duration. but what do we see? both goons in saul's office. if ted were alive, why wouldn't the goons have stayed with him as planned?

also, would ted being rendered unconscious be referred to as "an act of god"?
 
:confused:

We ALL know Saul aint gonna want to be THAT involved especially with the track record of messing up that Jesse and Walt have.

I think this is gonna be a HUGE TWIST like MIKE was involved or some shit.

Cause there are too MANY loose threads like Skylar's old boss?

I meant to say Walt took the cigarette and fed Jesse the story that Gus was behind it all.
 
I hope the clear some shit up in this next episode cause this shit was confusing. I rode with it until that nigga, Gus, pulled some Lex Luther type shit at the end. Dude is so far ahead that it's like reading people's minds... No one is that good. In fact, it would have made more sense to me... if the bomb hadn't worked right away and Gus was able to get out the car before the bomb did go off... something like Casino. I was also thrown off by how in one short conversation, Walt planted a bomb and got to the roof top a good few blocks away unless he is Nightcrawler now.

That's a good point too. But Walt knew he was on the way once Jesse texted him. So he had time to plant the bomb assuming he made a good guess about where he would park. But getting to another building is a bit of a stretch too.
 
re: ted's fate

in the episode podcast the writers shy away from directly answering what happened to ted (dead/alive).

but IF ted's not dead, it would be sloppy and lazy writing.

here's why:

the plan was to have the 2 goons stay with ted until the check cleared. that could take several days, and they indicated that they were prepared to stay with ted for the duration. but what do we see? both goons in saul's office. if ted were alive, why wouldn't the goons have stayed with him as planned?

also, would ted being rendered unconscious be referred to as "an act of god"?

If he is dead, I'm thinking Saul wouldn't have been so calm (for Saul that is) about what happened. I'd think Saul and his goons would be great deal more nervous.

Saul only get's really shook when Walt gets him involved in warning Hank cause he know that puts him against Gus albeit indirectly.
 
But he always felt they were NOBLE...

like Jessie's girlfriend, or Tuco, etc.

Gus has NEVER even feigned that kind of charity...

But I think the reason the series resonates because we can all connect with Walt and UNDERSTAND why he does what he does...

W even understand Hank's dedication to his job or His wife's devotion despite the verbal abuse, or even Gus' motivations (greed, power, revenge) and Walt's son need to be depended on by his family and not seen as weak...

I think The only character that reacts like a stereotypical TV Wife is Skylar and that is why she is so hated on.

Even Jesse we root for as the loser who finally makes good...

Good points...I was just looking back at when I first started watching the series and just thinking the other day that Walt has accidentally or intentionally killed alot of people on the show...when I first started this show, I never would've expected that...amazing writing..

Best scene is still Walt trying to roll that blunt and smoke the weed and the shit fell apart:lol::lol::lol:
 
If he is dead, I'm thinking Saul wouldn't have been so calm (for Saul that is) about what happened. I'd think Saul and his goons would be great deal more nervous.

Saul only get's really shook when Walt gets him involved in warning Hank cause he know that puts him against Gus albeit indirectly.

Naw, if he was alive they would be more nervous, because he could ID them. Remember how he sent Mike to help clean up things for Jesse? Saul is used to being in those situations, he's a clean up man himself.

One problem is they mailed the check

It would have been perfect if they didn't mail the check, and then he "disappeared".
 
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gus is behind the little boy being in the

hospital!!! someone else already stated the part where you can tell!

its when jessie goes to see the lawyer, & the "goon" is frisking him.

when hes done you can see him put the pack of cigarettes into his pocket!

have no clue as to how he put them back, but you can clearly see this! watch over!


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dude must have slipped a "clean" pack into

jessies pocket. when he goes to smoke outside the hospital,

the turned up cig, has no ricin.
 
gus gus gus..... he is about his business.

hank is still too good for his own good. he's literally right there close to catching him and he doesn't have the proof to do it yet.

im glad jessee came to his sense and didn't kill walt and im glad walt didn't panic in this situation and i am becoming accustomed to his crazy laugh in the middle of almost dying.

gus did poison the boy and the theory that walt said was correct which is why it wasn't a stretch at the ending. you guys gotta understand gus. he is the ultimate poker/chess player. it took walt nearly dying by jessee for both of them to realize the plan that gus put in place. he was counting on jessee being a hot head and he was counting on walt not coming up with the correct answers for them to figure out the plan.

this is why the ending was not a stretch to me and it wasn't on some super senses type of shit it was on some i am a thinking man type shit.

when has gus ever revealed a tell? when has he tipped his hand ever and acknowledged something?
when jessee refused to leave and the guy called gus to come through, walt knows gus and how he thinks, he knows gus would drive himself and he knew he'd more than likely drive up to a higher level of the garage. walt putting the pipe bomb there wasn't a stretch at all, he had time to set it up, it was already tested and everything that's easy

Gus genuinely went down there to convince jessee to get back to work so that he could continue with the business. he knew he had poisoned the boy but he didn't know jessee knew he did. this is why he reasoned with him and told him to go and then come back. jessee gave it away when he said the boy isn't sick he's dying and he was poisoned. this gave it away. you instantly saw gus' facial expression change from let me put on this front for you to get you help hey im on your side.
to
oh ok little motherfucker so you know about my plan, and i know you know about my plan as well, i also know you didn't kill walt because of how you are, i've seen you in tough situations and how twitchy you are and also how much you love to tell what happened. i know if you had killed mr white you would have told me because it would have been in your best interest to do so, if he's dead then why would he protect him?
remember gus made the setup fake robbery attempt? he did that for more than the reason we thought in the beginning. we thought it was just to boost his confidence and divide him and walt. that was part of it, but now we see it was to observe how he reacts to situations. when jessee saw gus he couldn't keep his mouth shut about what happened he told everything in detail. now if he had killed walt don't you think he would do the same? jessee never keeps his mouth shut about anything. so him shutting up and not even mentioning walt meant that he knew walt was not dead

from that point he knew what time it was, and from the elevator ride up to his car area he had time to think of how they would try and get him... he knew it was a setup because he knew jesse knew he poisoned the boy and he knew jessee didn't kill walt and he also knew jessee's loyalty to walt so therefore he knew that he himself (gus) was the target. jessee has only stood up to gus when it came to walt, so a logical person would think well he is more loyal to walt than he is to me, i am trying to kill walt, so now they're both going to try and get me.

which is why he determined the only logical way they could kill him is through some sort of explosion and the only way they could set it up is through is car...walt is a chemist he knew he knew how to make bombs and shit... and he knew walt had no muscle or owned any rifles of any kind. this is why he went to the edge and started to try and look for walt. he wasn't looking off into the distance he was just seeing if he could see walt to confirm everything before he did what he was gonna do in the first place which was walk away from the car go on about his business and find a way to kill walt and keep jessee.


shit is real right now they're gonna have to find a way to get close to gus right now, and they're gonna have to find a safe place to rest their heads.
 
gus gus gus..... he is about his business.

hank is still too good for his own good. he's literally right there close to catching him and he doesn't have the proof to do it yet.

im glad jessee came to his sense and didn't kill walt and im glad walt didn't panic in this situation and i am becoming accustomed to his crazy laugh in the middle of almost dying.

gus did poison the boy and the theory that walt said was correct which is why it wasn't a stretch at the ending. you guys gotta understand gus. he is the ultimate poker/chess player. it took walt nearly dying by jessee for both of them to realize the plan that gus put in place. he was counting on jessee being a hot head and he was counting on walt not coming up with the correct answers for them to figure out the plan.

this is why the ending was not a stretch to me and it wasn't on some super senses type of shit it was on some i am a thinking man type shit.

when has gus ever revealed a tell? when has he tipped his hand ever and acknowledged something?
when jessee refused to leave and the guy called gus to come through, walt knows gus and how he thinks, he knows gus would drive himself and he knew he'd more than likely drive up to a higher level of the garage. walt putting the pipe bomb there wasn't a stretch at all, he had time to set it up, it was already tested and everything that's easy

Gus genuinely went down there to convince jessee to get back to work so that he could continue with the business. he knew he had poisoned the boy but he didn't know jessee knew he did. this is why he reasoned with him and told him to go and then come back. jessee gave it away when he said the boy isn't sick he's dying and he was poisoned. this gave it away. you instantly saw gus' facial expression change from let me put on this front for you to get you help hey im on your side.
to
oh ok little motherfucker so you know about my plan, and i know you know about my plan as well, i also know you didn't kill walt because of how you are, i've seen you in tough situations and how twitchy you are and also how much you love to tell what happened. i know if you had killed mr white you would have told me because it would have been in your best interest to do so, if he's dead then why would he protect him?
remember gus made the setup fake robbery attempt? he did that for more than the reason we thought in the beginning. we thought it was just to boost his confidence and divide him and walt. that was part of it, but now we see it was to observe how he reacts to situations. when jessee saw gus he couldn't keep his mouth shut about what happened he told everything in detail. now if he had killed walt don't you think he would do the same? jessee never keeps his mouth shut about anything. so him shutting up and not even mentioning walt meant that he knew walt was not dead

from that point he knew what time it was, and from the elevator ride up to his car area he had time to think of how they would try and get him... he knew it was a setup because he knew jesse knew he poisoned the boy and he knew jessee didn't kill walt and he also knew jessee's loyalty to walt so therefore he knew that he himself (gus) was the target. jessee has only stood up to gus when it came to walt, so a logical person would think well he is more loyal to walt than he is to me, i am trying to kill walt, so now they're both going to try and get me.

which is why he determined the only logical way they could kill him is through some sort of explosion and the only way they could set it up is through is car...walt is a chemist he knew he knew how to make bombs and shit... and he knew walt had no muscle or owned any rifles of any kind. this is why he went to the edge and started to try and look for walt. he wasn't looking off into the distance he was just seeing if he could see walt to confirm everything before he did what he was gonna do in the first place which was walk away from the car go on about his business and find a way to kill walt and keep jessee.


shit is real right now they're gonna have to find a way to get close to gus right now, and they're gonna have to find a safe place to rest their heads.

that makes cents.... it would could be why saul told jess to break camp too
 
gus gus gus..... he is about his business.

This right here is the main reason why I don't think Gus did it. It would be bad for business to upset Jesse's already unstable ass. Gus needs Jesse confident and secure. Fucking with the kid is only going to send Jesse off the deep end. Gus is way too smart for that.

I don't think Gus is threatened by Walt at all. Let's face it Walt has proven that he would make a horrible assassin. Showing up at Gus's house with a handgun just proves that. :smh: I think where Walt is concerned it has become PERSONAL with Gus. He has had to surrender control to Walt for too long, and nothing would give him more pleasure then personally slitting Walt's throat and watching him bleed. I think the previews for next weeks show even alluded to that when you see Gus saying that he wanted to handle something on his own. He wouldn't want to take the risk of Jesse killing Walt, because he wants that pleasure himself.
 
My thing is why if Gus knew about the ricin, took it and poisoned the kid, why would he be shocked to find out Jesse knows the boy was poisoned. After all Jesse knows about the ricin and the effects; he knows he put it in his cigarette pack and now its gone; he just watched Gus kill a whole cartel by poisoning them. That's why I'm leaning more towards Walt doing it. I think Gus going back in was him figuring out Walt is behind it and now has Jesse thinking that he poisoned the kid.
 
Does anybody Have season 4 episodes 1-12 for download? Or know where i can get the download link or links? I caught up watching NetFlix but they stop after episode 1 season 4...so i need the other 11 or to be current...this show is like crack and I NEED MY CRACK!!!:please:
 
damn have we all forgotten that walts

Dumb ass went to mike with trying to kill Gus???

You don't fuckin' think mike told Gus??? Mikes

Loyalty is to Gus! It's not just to have Jessie as the

Sole cook, Gus also wants walt dead, cause he knows

Walt wants him dead!!! Plain & simple.
 
This right here is the main reason why I don't think Gus did it. It would be bad for business to upset Jesse's already unstable ass. Gus needs Jesse confident and secure. Fucking with the kid is only going to send Jesse off the deep end. Gus is way too smart for that.

Gus is smart enough to know that he cared about the kid enough to kill walt over him. Gus was right about that and he knew Jessee would think that walt was the one who did it and never suspect Gus. Gus knew about the poison but he never tipped his hand that he knew...we didn't know he knew either and that's the way Gus wanted it. The only person it could've been was walt, and remember they had people following walt, which is when he got prodded right outside of Jessee's house by Gus' goons. Don't think they told Gus that they had an argument and Jessee was chilling with his girl and her kid? Gus' plan worked exactly how he wanted it to, Walt didn't act the same way he usually does, if he did then he'd be dead right now. Gus is also smart enough to have a backup plan.


I don't think Gus is threatened by Walt at all. Let's face it Walt has proven that he would make a horrible assassin. Showing up at Gus's house with a handgun just proves that. :smh:

Walt is the only thing keeping Gus from having ultimate power. Gus felt Jessee was his to mold and groom, Walt was already who he was going to be. Jessee has no real family Jessee is a young Gus...in gus' eyes. This is why he put him with Mike to teach him the game and everything. Jessee is the cook now and Walt is just a threat because at any time Walt can go to the police. Walt didn't stop Hank from investigating, Walt tipped off the DEA walt is a threat to Gus. Not in the sense that Walt will set a trap and kill him but in the real sense that Walt and his family is the ONLY reason there is any suspicion or heat on him and his business. Everyone else is fooled but not the family and he needs them out of there.

I think where Walt is concerned it has become PERSONAL with Gus. He has had to surrender control to Walt for too long, and nothing would give him more pleasure then personally slitting Walt's throat and watching him bleed. I think the previews for next weeks show even alluded to that when you see Gus saying that he wanted to handle something on his own. He wouldn't want to take the risk of Jesse killing Walt, because he wants that pleasure himself.

It is personal with Walt now because of the attempts on his life and because Walt is 1 man not a cartel. Gus is simply trying to find a way to get rid of Walt who is the only one who would snitch...and proven he'd do so and keep Jessee on the team. 1 way was to get Jessee to kill Walt and it almost worked. Now we'll see another way


My thing is why if Gus knew about the ricin, took it and poisoned the kid, why would he be shocked to find out Jesse knows the boy was poisoned. After all Jesse knows about the ricin and the effects; he knows he put it in his cigarette pack and now its gone; he just watched Gus kill a whole cartel by poisoning them. That's why I'm leaning more towards Walt doing it. I think Gus going back in was him figuring out Walt is behind it and now has Jesse thinking that he poisoned the kid.

Jessee didn't know the boy was poisoned. The doctors didn't know what was wrong with him, nobody knew. That's not how it works remember. Its supposed to just make you sick and then you never get better, you just die. Jessee had no clue it was poison until he pulled out the cigs, and he saw that the poison one wasn't there. From there Jessee never knew Gus knew about the poison even existing, remember he kept saying that to walt...only me and you knew about it. This is why Gus did it, he knew those two thought they were the only ones who knew. He was counting on Jessee being a hot head...which he almost was and he was counting on Walt to not think quick on his feet, which he is prone to do.

Also remember the phone call Gus made when the Dea was in the place with dogs and cameras. Gus propositioned Jessee again and Jessee stood by his position of anything FINAL happening to Mr White there would be a problem. I thought they were going to rough Walt up since beating him up wouldn't be FINAL. All Gus said was there was going to be an appropriate response.

How do you respond when you can't kill who you think is the problem? You set it up to make it look like the problem is the person who wronged his savior and have the savior eliminate the problem himself. Problem solved, relationship saved.
 
damn have we all forgotten that walts

Dumb ass went to mike with trying to kill Gus???

You don't fuckin' think mike told Gus??? Mikes

Loyalty is to Gus! It's not just to have Jessie as the

Sole cook, Gus also wants walt dead, cause he knows

Walt wants him dead!!! Plain & simple.

Even more ammo in the Gus trying to get walt killed through Jessee theory.
Simply put if walt died in any way Jessee would suspect Gus did it and the business would be done.

If Jessee kills walt himself.....business as usual.

He needs his cook.
 
damn have we all forgotten that walts

Dumb ass went to mike with trying to kill Gus???

You don't fuckin' think mike told Gus??? Mikes

Loyalty is to Gus! It's not just to have Jessie as the

Sole cook, Gus also wants walt dead, cause he knows

Walt wants him dead!!! Plain & simple.

Did you forget how Walt went to his house and he called him up and told him to go home. He didn't need Mike to tell him. I think Mike literally tried to beat some sense in to him, and I doubt he told Gus, but if he did he already knew. Gus is two and three steps ahead always, he knows he would kill himself if he could.

He knows Jesse is the easier one to control, he has no family to protect and he's not trying to get out. He would be happy in this situation just cooking and making money and playing cosby with Andrea. Walt keeps bringing him drama. That's why Gus tries boosting him up with positive comments. To gain his loyalty and also because Jesse needs it. Walt has been calling dude stupid and worthless from the beginning.
 
:yes:im all caught up now on the whole series dam cant wait til sunday night. I gotta say one of my favorite characters is the lawyer that mothafucka is dirty but funny as fuck
 
Based on some of the preview, episode guides and cast information for the series finales.

Here's what I know for sure.

Walt somehow finds Saul and convinces him to work with him to eliminate Gus.

The actor who plays Mike is listed in the cast for the series finale (he wasn't listed for the last episode).

My prediction

I'm thinking Mike is somehow convinced by Walt and Saul to assist in getting rid of Gus. I think Mike has been open to getting rid of Gus since the beginning of the season (Every since he's seen how Gus cut homeboy's throat).

It hasn't helped that Mike has been in harm's way all season. He's got to be getting tired of getting shot or shot at. Gus is the only character on the show who doesn't have family or something he cares about besides controlling his business. They showed Mike with what looked like his GrandDaughter last season

I think Mike just been waiting for someone who was strong enough (no half measures) to pull it off. I think he may have even not told Gus about Walt's half ass assassination attempts preferring to keep Walt in play for later.
 
The article i posted a few days ago

Mentioned that walter was sitting down spinning the gun with a look on his face like he had an idea

Then we dont hear from him or see him , nobody could reach him
Not even anmarie,his wife or even Jessie
 
Ya I agree w/ you...cuz I thought about the Walt angle...and that eggplant head nigga that was frisking Jesse woulda been too dumb to pull off a switch w/ the cig packs or w/e and as someone else mentioned...we always know what angle Walt is coming from but as you mentioned we rarely know Gus' angle...ya I'm content that Gus did it and it fits into the ending w/ him expecting retribution as well and why he was able to figure something was up

gus gus gus..... he is about his business.

hank is still too good for his own good. he's literally right there close to catching him and he doesn't have the proof to do it yet.

im glad jessee came to his sense and didn't kill walt and im glad walt didn't panic in this situation and i am becoming accustomed to his crazy laugh in the middle of almost dying.

gus did poison the boy and the theory that walt said was correct which is why it wasn't a stretch at the ending. you guys gotta understand gus. he is the ultimate poker/chess player. it took walt nearly dying by jessee for both of them to realize the plan that gus put in place. he was counting on jessee being a hot head and he was counting on walt not coming up with the correct answers for them to figure out the plan.

this is why the ending was not a stretch to me and it wasn't on some super senses type of shit it was on some i am a thinking man type shit.

when has gus ever revealed a tell? when has he tipped his hand ever and acknowledged something?
when jessee refused to leave and the guy called gus to come through, walt knows gus and how he thinks, he knows gus would drive himself and he knew he'd more than likely drive up to a higher level of the garage. walt putting the pipe bomb there wasn't a stretch at all, he had time to set it up, it was already tested and everything that's easy

Gus genuinely went down there to convince jessee to get back to work so that he could continue with the business. he knew he had poisoned the boy but he didn't know jessee knew he did. this is why he reasoned with him and told him to go and then come back. jessee gave it away when he said the boy isn't sick he's dying and he was poisoned. this gave it away. you instantly saw gus' facial expression change from let me put on this front for you to get you help hey im on your side.
to
oh ok little motherfucker so you know about my plan, and i know you know about my plan as well, i also know you didn't kill walt because of how you are, i've seen you in tough situations and how twitchy you are and also how much you love to tell what happened. i know if you had killed mr white you would have told me because it would have been in your best interest to do so, if he's dead then why would he protect him?
remember gus made the setup fake robbery attempt? he did that for more than the reason we thought in the beginning. we thought it was just to boost his confidence and divide him and walt. that was part of it, but now we see it was to observe how he reacts to situations. when jessee saw gus he couldn't keep his mouth shut about what happened he told everything in detail. now if he had killed walt don't you think he would do the same? jessee never keeps his mouth shut about anything. so him shutting up and not even mentioning walt meant that he knew walt was not dead

from that point he knew what time it was, and from the elevator ride up to his car area he had time to think of how they would try and get him... he knew it was a setup because he knew jesse knew he poisoned the boy and he knew jessee didn't kill walt and he also knew jessee's loyalty to walt so therefore he knew that he himself (gus) was the target. jessee has only stood up to gus when it came to walt, so a logical person would think well he is more loyal to walt than he is to me, i am trying to kill walt, so now they're both going to try and get me.

which is why he determined the only logical way they could kill him is through some sort of explosion and the only way they could set it up is through is car...walt is a chemist he knew he knew how to make bombs and shit... and he knew walt had no muscle or owned any rifles of any kind. this is why he went to the edge and started to try and look for walt. he wasn't looking off into the distance he was just seeing if he could see walt to confirm everything before he did what he was gonna do in the first place which was walk away from the car go on about his business and find a way to kill walt and keep jessee.


shit is real right now they're gonna have to find a way to get close to gus right now, and they're gonna have to find a safe place to rest their heads.
 
Gus is the only character on the show who doesn't have family or something he cares about besides controlling his business.

In one episode Gus invited Walt to his home and cooked for him. He told Walt that he only gets to enjoy this certain soup when the kids aren't around because they dont like it. Gus has a family, he can be touched.
 
gus gus gus..... he is about his business.

hank is still too good for his own good. he's literally right there close to catching him and he doesn't have the proof to do it yet.

im glad jessee came to his sense and didn't kill walt and im glad walt didn't panic in this situation and i am becoming accustomed to his crazy laugh in the middle of almost dying.

gus did poison the boy and the theory that walt said was correct which is why it wasn't a stretch at the ending. you guys gotta understand gus. he is the ultimate poker/chess player. it took walt nearly dying by jessee for both of them to realize the plan that gus put in place. he was counting on jessee being a hot head and he was counting on walt not coming up with the correct answers for them to figure out the plan.

this is why the ending was not a stretch to me and it wasn't on some super senses type of shit it was on some i am a thinking man type shit.

when has gus ever revealed a tell? when has he tipped his hand ever and acknowledged something?
when jessee refused to leave and the guy called gus to come through, walt knows gus and how he thinks, he knows gus would drive himself and he knew he'd more than likely drive up to a higher level of the garage. walt putting the pipe bomb there wasn't a stretch at all, he had time to set it up, it was already tested and everything that's easy

Gus genuinely went down there to convince jessee to get back to work so that he could continue with the business. he knew he had poisoned the boy but he didn't know jessee knew he did. this is why he reasoned with him and told him to go and then come back. jessee gave it away when he said the boy isn't sick he's dying and he was poisoned. this gave it away. you instantly saw gus' facial expression change from let me put on this front for you to get you help hey im on your side.
to
oh ok little motherfucker so you know about my plan, and i know you know about my plan as well, i also know you didn't kill walt because of how you are, i've seen you in tough situations and how twitchy you are and also how much you love to tell what happened. i know if you had killed mr white you would have told me because it would have been in your best interest to do so, if he's dead then why would he protect him?
remember gus made the setup fake robbery attempt? he did that for more than the reason we thought in the beginning. we thought it was just to boost his confidence and divide him and walt. that was part of it, but now we see it was to observe how he reacts to situations. when jessee saw gus he couldn't keep his mouth shut about what happened he told everything in detail. now if he had killed walt don't you think he would do the same? jessee never keeps his mouth shut about anything. so him shutting up and not even mentioning walt meant that he knew walt was not dead

from that point he knew what time it was, and from the elevator ride up to his car area he had time to think of how they would try and get him... he knew it was a setup because he knew jesse knew he poisoned the boy and he knew jessee didn't kill walt and he also knew jessee's loyalty to walt so therefore he knew that he himself (gus) was the target. jessee has only stood up to gus when it came to walt, so a logical person would think well he is more loyal to walt than he is to me, i am trying to kill walt, so now they're both going to try and get me.

which is why he determined the only logical way they could kill him is through some sort of explosion and the only way they could set it up is through is car...walt is a chemist he knew he knew how to make bombs and shit... and he knew walt had no muscle or owned any rifles of any kind. this is why he went to the edge and started to try and look for walt. he wasn't looking off into the distance he was just seeing if he could see walt to confirm everything before he did what he was gonna do in the first place which was walk away from the car go on about his business and find a way to kill walt and keep jessee.


shit is real right now they're gonna have to find a way to get close to gus right now, and they're gonna have to find a safe place to rest their heads.

so in the end it was GUS underestimating Jesse.

Funny how Jesse was hating on Mr. White cause he felt he was underestimating him.

When in REALITY Walt had faith in his "son" the whole time...

I really need them to end this series wit h WAlt getting the wi...

I really dont give a shit about NOBODY else (especially) Skylar getting hemmed up.

MY THEORY...:D

In the end it will be SKYLAR who ends up taking the fall for the family...

And lying that she was the REAL brains behind the entire operation...

and Saul getting her a sweetheart deal. She gonna rat out the cartel and Gus and get witness protection...

And tell her sister and Hank the pressure from the cancer and car wash and gambling got to her...

And she will FINALLY be a hero in her son's eyes...
 
I'm gonna change my vote I think Walt did poison the kid but not with Ricin. It was probably something curable like plant poison or something. Jesse was right the dude did take the cigarette off of him and Saul did give the kid the poison probably in some candy like he gave the kid last time he saw them. I bet Walt give saul his very last dollar to do it and that's why Saul was leaving. He had just been paid a few 100 grand and he knew that after doing that favor he chose a side and if it doesn't turn out right he would be dead.

That explains why Gus didn't get into the car when he heard the kid was poisoned he probably figured Walt did it and that it was part of some plan to get at him. He may not know that Jesse is involved but I wouldn't be surprised.

Also yeah some people are going to DIEEEE!!!

In hindsight the biggest mistake all season made by Walt and Skylar were overreacting. Like someone said if Walt hadn't ever told Mike he wanted to Kill Gus I think Gus would of let dudes rock as just his cooks. Also Skylar should have never gave Ted that fucking money to begin with. If she had been really about Ted would of died and she would have 650k more in the bank.
 
In one episode Gus invited Walt to his home and cooked for him. He told Walt that he only gets to enjoy this certain soup when the kids aren't around because they dont like it. Gus has a family, he can be touched.

I don't think he has any family. Even that home he goes to at night is probably a fiction he created for his Pollos Hermanos image. Dude's whole life is a fiction
 
I'm thinking, I'm more than likely wrong, but I feel one of them cats guarding Hank and the fam is going to kill one of them. This seasons ending has alot to do with next seasons ending. Damn near every season the last episode Walt comes out unscathed. Jesse loses something especially the last 2. His druggie chick and his sanity after killing Gale. Walt hasn't lost anything yet. He said the consequences are coming, to really amp things up, I think Hank's wife gets it in the end of this season. It amps up everything next season. Hank goes batshit crazy, as does Walt as he feels its his fault. What would really be an Ohhhhhhhhhhh moment, if its Hank's homie the mexican cat that does it. This thread would light up like the 4th of July
 
I'm thinking, I'm more than likely wrong, but I feel one of them cats guarding Hank and the fam is going to kill one of them. This seasons ending has alot to do with next seasons ending. Damn near every season the last episode Walt comes out unscathed. Jesse loses something especially the last 2. His druggie chick and his sanity after killing Gale. Walt hasn't lost anything yet. He said the consequences are coming, to really amp things up, I think Hank's wife gets it in the end of this season. It amps up everything next season. Hank goes batshit crazy, as does Walt as he feels its his fault. What would really be an Ohhhhhhhhhhh moment, if its Hank's homie the mexican cat that does it. This thread would light up like the 4th of July

My prediction is the black trainer that everybody was amped about earlier in the season will come back and finally fuck Marie :lol:
 
Did you forget how Walt went to his house and he called him up and told him to go home. He didn't need Mike to tell him. I think Mike literally tried to beat some sense in to him, and I doubt he told Gus, but if he did he already knew.

true, i did forget.

wasnt that mike who called him though?
 
no it was pollo who called walter and told him to go home

?????????????????????? Swore it was Mike...be wondering if you niggas be watching the same show as me...????????????????????????????
 
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