Naruto Manga Discussion

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Assassin sometimes you're right, sometimes you don't cater to the fans. But with something like this? I believe you just HAVE too. Because of the nature of the story.

And altho it was pretty cool. I'm still kind of disappointed. Because it's really not the same. Or even close to the same. Kabuto isn't using Itachi's full abilities and neither will Pein. The first attack against 2 tailed beasts and you're going to do a fireball? Not even a feint. But thats your first attack? Just wack. I'm confused about this. And then Pein can't walk so he's going to use some weak throw a rock at Naruto attack?

I'm disappointed. Hopefully next week will shine something special.

Whats the point of becoming a writer if you allow fans to dictate what they want in your story especially when you mapped out the complete story before you write your first draft..

I have no problem if a writer put some elements of what the fans want but you cant let them completely change your story has done for the past 4+ years...This is the main reason why people like me have a hard time wondering what the hell is Kishimoto is tryin to do because he allowed fans particularly fans of the Uchiha clan change his story.

In the first part of the series every character had their shine even shitty ass Tenten this is why people like it so much but as soon the second part came its been mostly about Naruto chasing a guy who wants no part of the village....Its been that way for awhile now and people is sick of it and on top of that their been so many contraction is not even funny...

The story has not developed at all and I dont understand why Kishimoto hasnt done nothing to it...On top of that we have all these ninjas who developed all these ninjutsu's but some how they are getting beaten easily......

Naruto is the first manga I've ever read(I started in 2006)but as time went by its gotten dumber and dumber because all we're reading about is Naruto crying,whinning and trying to save Sasuke for the past 6+ years...

This manga have mostly been about Sasuke and not Naruto and its retarded that Kishimoto put his time and effort shoving his love for Sasuke in almost every chapter.


His twin brother makes 1000x more sense than him......

 

[blaqueman]

Whats the point of becoming a writer if you allow fans to dictate what they want in your story especially when you mapped out the complete story before you write your first draft..

I have no problem if a writer put some elements of what the fans want but you cant let them completely change your story has done for the past 4+ years...This is the main reason why people like me have a hard time wondering what the hell is Kishimoto is tryin to do because he allowed fans particularly fans of the Uchiha clan change his story.

In the first part of the series every character had their shine even shitty ass Tenten this is why people like it so much but as soon the second part came its been mostly about Naruto chasing a guy who wants no part of the village....Its been that way for awhile now and people is sick of it and on top of that their been so many contraction is not even funny...

The story has not developed at all and I dont understand why Kishimoto hasnt done nothing to it...On top of that we have all these ninjas who developed all these ninjutsu's but some how they are getting beaten easily......

Naruto is the first manga I've ever read(I started in 2006)but as time went by its gotten dumber and dumber because all we're reading about is Naruto crying,whinning and trying to save Sasuke for the past 6+ years...

This manga have mostly been about Sasuke and not Naruto and its retarded that Kishimoto put his time and effort shoving his love for Sasuke in almost every chapter.


His twin brother makes 1000x more sense than him......

Now time for the 'shocking truth' Kishimoto has stated that Sasuke is his favourite character, so him writing up that character shows. Kishimoto and his twin are currently co developing a story @ the moment so I believe that his 'passion' for writing this current story has died or is dying, also I think it was mentioned earlier but even though he's the writer the 'editors' can alter the story based on the fan response so no doubt what happens there, at least that's what I came across some time ago. My issue is the inconsistencies in the story, and the fact that when the story started Kishimoto started off with a certain 'Canon' that was law, so far this story is all over the place, for eg Naruto's parents died,however, he has a plan to allow the main character to meet his parents, fine no problem, but then you allow him to meet his father first, good, no problem, he meets his mother next, its then revealed that his mother was tired/close to death and his father sacrificed himself to save the village so how the fuck did the father perform the ritual to seal his mother? Its things like this that has me upset reading it, I'm looking for 'closure' hence the reason why I stay

 

[Flawless]

this whole casual conversation during the fight is just killing it for me, and wtf is Itachi fighting like a bitch? I've seen Itachi fight enough to know he would have already got Naruto and bee in a illusion fighting each other the minute they met.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Now time for the 'shocking truth' Kishimoto has stated that Sasuke is his favourite character, so him writing up that character shows. Kishimoto and his twin are currently co developing a story @ the moment so I believe that his 'passion' for writing this current story has died or is dying, also I think it was mentioned earlier but even though he's the writer the 'editors' can alter the story based on the fan response so no doubt what happens there, at least that's what I came across some time ago. My issue is the inconsistencies in the story, and the fact that when the story started Kishimoto started off with a certain 'Canon' that was law, so far this story is all over the place, for eg Naruto's parents died,however, he has a plan to allow the main character to meet his parents, fine no problem, but then you allow him to meet his father first, good, no problem, he meets his mother next, its then revealed that his mother was tired/close to death and his father sacrificed himself to save the village so how the fuck did the father perform the ritual to seal his mother? Its things like this that has me upset reading it, I'm looking for 'closure' hence the reason why I stay

I understand the editor have some say where the story should be go but to have the story where it keeps contradicting itself and making no sense at all.Thats where the problem lies....This whole story been about Uchiha,Uchiha,Uchiha,Naruto, Uchiha,Uchiha,Uchiha,Uchiha,Naruto,one of the rookie 9,Uchiha etc etc and etc....its fucking stupid


Its like Kishimoto introduced the Rookie 9 for now reason at all.....I would love to learn more about the Hyuga clan or the Nara clan but I know I wont because Kishimoto is so in love with the Uchiha clan...

I remember during the Chuunin exam,when Neji fought Hinata, Kakashi said the Sharingan descended from the Byukagan and I thought to myself at that time I would love to know more about that...Fast forward to last year when Madara was telling Naruto,Kakashi and Yamamoto about the history of the Six Paths,Senju and the Uchiha....I was waiting for him to mentioned the Hyuga clan but he never did I was like .........wtf ...

Its like they make shit along the way it doesnt make sense at all..

The only reason why Im reading it because I wanna know the ending after that Im not reading this piece of shit of a manga ever again...Kishimoto is worst than Kubo......imo

 

[TheProdigal]

Now time for the 'shocking truth' Kishimoto has stated that Sasuke is his favourite character

Where did he state this?

this whole casual conversation during the fight is just killing it for me, and wtf is Itachi fighting like a bitch? I've seen Itachi fight enough to know he would have already got Naruto and bee in a illusion fighting each other the minute they met.

Well it's not really him fighting right? He's just being controlled,

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[Flawless]

Where did he state this?



Well it's not really him fighting right? He's just being controlled,

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it is the dead fighting with their all they just cant control themselves.

 

[blaqueman]

Where did he state this?



Well it's not really him fighting right? He's just being controlled,

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That was written in an interview with the weekly Shogun Jump or whatever they call that magazine where they chat with the 'in' authors and Kishimoto was asked who was his favorite character and he stated Sasuke, he gave some insight into the story as well which caused many ppl to look for the 'Tengo Demon Folklore' or what ever the name of the 'eye demon' is from Japan that has the wings. You're correct on the second point as well, its why they're able to tell their comrades how to 'defeat' them as well.

 

[kidmegaii]

Please, Please oh please get rid of that fucking crow. This manga is in sore need of no holds barred slugfest, and this bullshit crow is a fucking forced cheap cop out waiting to happen. We already know Naruto isn't going to kill Sasuke, but with this crow he might not even need to fight him. So please let Nagato kill it or at least let Kabuto capture it.

Looks like Nagato entered beast mode.
Nagato v Naruto fight we all wanted to see.

By the way chapter out.....

 

[TheProdigal]

Please, Please oh please get rid of that fucking crow. This manga is in sore need of no holds barred slugfest, and this bullshit crow is a fucking forced cheap cop out waiting to happen. We already know Naruto isn't going to kill Sasuke, but with this crow he might not even need to fight him.

I was thinking like how can they already have a way to beat Sasuke when we havent even seen what he can do yet. Also you know I always thought that itachi is such a beast that he shouldve been smart enough to figure a way out of edo tensei if he died and god damn he did!

 

[kidmegaii]

I was thinking like how can they already have a way to beat Sasuke when we havent even seen what he can do yet. Also you know I always thought that itachi is such a beast that he shouldve been smart enough to figure a way out of edo tensei if he died and god damn he did!

To get rid Itachi all kabuto has to do unsummon him. But I doubt he'll do that cause all we are getting is multiple pages of please save my brother.


You notice how easily Nagato handled everybody, if Kishi can just stop with the useless chit chat and get with the violence this war would be a whole lot better

 

[Flawless]

To get rid Itachi all kabuto has to do unsummon him. But I doubt he'll do that cause all we are getting is multiple pages of please save my brother.


You notice how easily Nagato handled everybody, if Kishi can just stop with the useless chit chat and get with the violence this war would be a whole lot better

no one can beat Nagato, especially with him being controlled and without distractions, but I'm guessing Itachi will be the one to stop him and they will both go down together smiling , also I wonder when will Orochimaru make his return.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

I need a video both to pictures dammit

 

[LegendOfLedo]

Please, Please oh please get rid of that fucking crow. This manga is in sore need of no holds barred slugfest, and this bullshit crow is a fucking forced cheap cop out waiting to happen. We already know Naruto isn't going to kill Sasuke, but with this crow he might not even need to fight him. So please let Nagato kill it or at least let Kabuto capture it.

Looks like Nagato entered beast mode.
Nagato v Naruto fight we all wanted to see.

By the way chapter out.....

Naruto wont be able to use the crows real genjustsu for a decade says Itachi....why are you fretting? lol

 

[Flawless]

Naruto wont be able to use the crows real genjustsu for a decade says Itachi....why are you fretting? lol

you gonna take that seriously? He will be using it in a day or 2 when he fights sasuke, then again its only suppose on the Itachi's eyes

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Naruto wont be able to use the crows real genjustsu for a decade says Itachi....why are you fretting? lol

You do know Kishimoto always contradict himself

you gonna take that seriously? He will be using it in a day or 2 when he fights sasuke, then again its only suppose on the Itachi's eyes

basically

A person that has a horrible time doing and breaking genjutsu is gonna all of a sudden use a genjutsu that's highly ranked

 

[kidmegaii]

also I wonder when will Orochimaru make his return.

I notice a snake on the last page of the middle panel on the left side, hopefully Oro makes a comeback soon

Naruto wont be able to use the crows real genjustsu for a decade says Itachi....why are you fretting? lol

It takes 10 years to recharge if you don't have Senju Charka. And our shtty lead protagonist is a member of what super special charaka Uzumaki clan who happnes to be a distant relative of Senju.

 

[TheProdigal]

I don't understand how anything in this manga works. When itachi gave him the crow I thought it was genjutsu . But apparently now the crow is real and has shusui's eye and it tales ten years to charge up or whatever?


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[klep]

I enjoyed the chapter, the second time I read I got some old ish kishimito confused.

I was always under the impression that Itachi killed Shisui and that's how he received one of his Eternal MS, and Danzo had one of the eyes(Izanagi Eye danzo could use withouth the 10 year coold down becase he had that 1st hokage ARM) and Itachi had the other. I thought these were collected after Shisuis death, so was he alive when he gave them away, then found in a river dead?

 

[Flawless]

I enjoyed the chapter, the second time I read I got some old ish kishimito confused.

I was always under the impression that Itachi killed Shisui and that's how he received one of his Eternal MS, and Danzo had one of the eyes(Izanagi Eye danzo could use withouth the 10 year coold down becase he had that 1st hokage ARM) and Itachi had the other. I thought these were collected after Shisuis death, so was he alive when he gave them away, then found in a river dead?

Not sure I'm thinking danzo took the eye by force why shisuis was left injured and possibly dieing why he decided to leave his eyes with itachi because he trusted him. After he gave up the eye itachi was left looking like he killed him. It seems they are trying to make itchi not seem like a bad guy, next they gonna claim that itachi never really killed his clan or was under some jutso

 

[blaqueman]

Reading it, it seemed as though he and that Sushio or whatever the dude's name is where tasked with killing the clan, it also seemed as though that guy was the true 'genius' and he came up with a plan by sacrificing his eyes, giving Danzo one and giving the other 'true' eye to his friend, his plan also called for his friend to kill him thus allowing Itachi to activate his Mangekoyou and also leaving him his 'special' eye to save the village in case the worst was yet to come. At least that's what I gathered when reading it, when its disclosed next week we'll see, the chapter was ok, but Bleach was better!!!! Wait a second I just thought of something else in the manga we saw that Sisio was missing his right eye, wasn't that the same eye Madara lost? I'm wondering if these two guys are one in the same?

 

[Timdawg187]

soooo Nagato brought himself back from the dead?! Maybe not. I always wonder why did couldn't do that if he was already dead...I'd just resurrect myself

 

[TheProdigal]

Reading it, it seemed as though he and that Sushio or whatever the dude's name is where tasked with killing the clan, it also seemed as though that guy was the true 'genius' and he came up with a plan by sacrificing his eyes, giving Danzo one and giving the other 'true' eye to his friend

I wonder about the danzo eye thing, did danzo just come up to sushui and was like "its decided that you shall give me your eye for the sake of Konaha" and sushuis like "Well I dunn-" Danzo:"Its decided". Well with the way poeple just volunteer others to be implanted with bijuu's and to be sacraficed and what not does anyone ever say no?
I couldnt see Danzo just taking his eye by force cause the uchiha wouldnt stand for that.

I just thought of something else in the manga we saw that Sisio was missing his right eye, wasn't that the same eye Madara lost? I'm wondering if these two guys are one in the same?

please be joking with this, i can still remember people saying Obito and Danzo were Madara now sushui? Btw Madara never had a missing eye, he always had two. He just simply wore a mask with one eye whole for no discernible reason, other for the shock at when he revealed his other eye while fighting Konan.

soooo Nagato brought himself back from the dead?! Maybe not. I always wonder why did couldn't do that if he was already dead...I'd just resurrect myself

No he didnt bring himself back from the dead, just rejuvenated his weak body with the other guys chakra

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

I'm a little confused. Did Nagato use his jutsu to remove the black flames from him?

And i think they long ago established Itachi wasn't a villain.

I'm also confused about...So Itachi is ALIVE now? With his full power? His full abilities? So that means he can still do the giant flaming god with the sword and the shield? I thought Sasuke had those?

 

[TheProdigal]

I'm a little confused. Did Nagato use his jutsu to remove the black flames from him?

And i think they long ago established Itachi wasn't a villain.

I'm also confused about...So Itachi is ALIVE now? With his full power? His full abilities? So that means he can still do the giant flaming god with the sword and the shield? I thought Sasuke had those?

1. Yup..almighty push

2. Well That kinda depends on how you look at it. Everything Sasuke hated Itachi for he still did, and he did betray his clan and murder his own parents. But i guess its okay now since he did it for the sake of Konoha. I personally think he a treacherous uncle tom but thats just me.

3. He's still a zombie its just that Orochi-Kabuto cant control him now. He still has all of his abilities and eye techniques even though Sasuke has possession of them now.

 

[nofrillz]

1. Yup..almighty push

2. Well That kinda depends on how you look at it. Everything Sasuke hated Itachi for he still did, and he did betray his clan and murder his own parents. But i guess its okay now since he did it for the sake of Konoha. I personally think he a treacherous uncle tom but thats just me.

3. He's still a zombie its just that Orochi-Kabuto cant control him now. He still has all of his abilities and eye techniques even though Sasuke has possession of them now.

but the plot is thickening now Nagoto is sucking up power and restoring himself... I like the twist with the raven jitsu

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

1. Yup..almighty push

2. Well That kinda depends on how you look at it. Everything Sasuke hated Itachi for he still did, and he did betray his clan and murder his own parents. But i guess its okay now since he did it for the sake of Konoha. I personally think he a treacherous uncle tom but thats just me.

3. He's still a zombie its just that Orochi-Kabuto cant control him now. He still has all of his abilities and eye techniques even though Sasuke has possession of them now.

Ah...Why did you say NOBODY can beat Nagato? All he has is the push abilities and the puttin you in a rock ability. The summonings aren't a match for Naruto, Bee AND Itachi. And being that Itachi has the Armor with the sword. I don't think this is much of a fight with Nagato. Itachi in MY mind is still the GREATEST.

And with Itachi he's a tragic hero. He had to kill his whole family to keep them from going to war with the rest of the village. He sacrificed so that the whole may live in peace.

 

[TheProdigal]

Ah...Why did you say NOBODY can beat Nagato? All he has is the push abilities and the puttin you in a rock ability. The summonings aren't a match for Naruto, Bee AND Itachi. And being that Itachi has the Armor with the sword. I don't think this is much of a fight with Nagato. Itachi in MY mind is still the GREATEST.

Dont recall saying that nobody can beat Nagato, but i'll bite. Nagato's abilities makes taijutsu and ninjutsu useless against him, plus this man can summon gedo mezo statue that absorb your soul. Whats this putting you in a rock stuff that your talking about? Do you mean the chibaku tensei when he makes a miniature moon? Well maybe Bee and Naruto can survive that with the help of their bijuu but I dont think anyone else can. Also vs Itachi with susano'o all he'd have to do was prolong the fight and Itachi would kill himself. btw If Pain was trying to kill naruto and not capture him he would be dead right now.

And with Itachi he's a tragic hero. He had to kill his whole family to keep them from going to war with the rest of the village. He sacrificed so that the whole may live in peace.

Yeah he's a real hero killing his family and friends, exterminating all of his race except one, and emotionally traumatizing his little brother whom he considers more precious than the village. Also killing them for the sake of those who look down on all his bloodline. There should be parades in his honor.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Who is that in your sig RKO,especially the one on the rightt...Do you have a vid to it

 

[TheProdigal]

Who is that in your sig RKO,especially the one on the rightt...Do you have a vid to it

Yeah i was eventually gonna pm it to you

The one on the right is this chick i saw on a webcam one day. What she does in the gif is basically all she does in the free show, and im not paying anyone shit so i dont get to see her nekkid.

http://www.spankwirecams.com/cam/Rhycarda/?AFNO=1-616283-JD-3-0-462+1l1+mt1x1.1685185057.2.616283.345713.0+en+1

The other one I made from a dvd I own of some chick whose name I forget, back when i had no idea all this stuff was available for free on the internet


sasuke & Kakashi

You know I think Sasuke wouldve been better if they had made him a chick, then Naruto wouldnt seem like such a faggot lying in bed thinking about some dude.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Edit:You gotta pm me the video to the right or tell me the name of it...

 

[LegendOfLedo]

Reading it, it seemed as though he and that Sushio or whatever the dude's name is where tasked with killing the clan, it also seemed as though that guy was the true 'genius' and he came up with a plan by sacrificing his eyes, giving Danzo one and giving the other 'true' eye to his friend, his plan also called for his friend to kill him thus allowing Itachi to activate his Mangekoyou and also leaving him his 'special' eye to save the village in case the worst was yet to come. At least that's what I gathered when reading it, when its disclosed next week we'll see, the chapter was ok, but Bleach was better!!!! Wait a second I just thought of something else in the manga we saw that Sisio was missing his right eye, wasn't that the same eye Madara lost? I'm wondering if these two guys are one in the same?

I like your theory, but I'm almost sure Madara and Shisui are not the same person. Shisui would have been a very young kid When Madara fought Minato the night of the Kyuubi attack.

 

[blaqueman]

I like your theory, but I'm almost sure Madara and Shisui are not the same person. Shisui would have been a very young kid When Madara fought Minato the night of the Kyuubi attack.

True you do have a good point, however, Kishimoto has been showing us time and time again that the Sharigan is extremely powerful, from being able to casts tricks, to entering someone's mind space, Madara has said many times that he's a shell of his former self, also the fight btw the First and Madara was years ago, yet he 'remains' could it be that he has an 'immortal' technique similar to Orochimaru's but instead of taking over the person's body he actually resides in their body like a ghost? I don't know, throughout the manga we've seen several people being possessed and I think that Kishimoto is trying to tell us where he's going by leaving some 'bread crumbs' around, mind you this when the story was making sense, now I can't trust the dude to keep the story 'relevant' or 'sane'!

 

[Flawless]

True you do have a good point, however, Kishimoto has been showing us time and time again that the Sharigan is extremely powerful, from being able to casts tricks, to entering someone's mind space, Madara has said many times that he's a shell of his former self, also the fight btw the First and Madara was years ago, yet he 'remains' could it be that he has an 'immortal' technique similar to Orochimaru's but instead of taking over the person's body he actually resides in their body like a ghost? I don't know, throughout the manga we've seen several people being possessed and I think that Kishimoto is trying to tell us where he's going by leaving some 'bread crumbs' around, mind you this when the story was making sense, now I can't trust the dude to keep the story 'relevant' or 'sane'!

maybe he is using some form of izanagi

This technique is capable of turning injuries and even death inflicted upon the user into mere illusions. Whenever the user receives a fatal injury, he or she automatically fades away as though they were an illusion all along and then returns back to reality; physically real and unscathed. The technique is based on an ability the Sage of the Six Paths had, referred to as "Creation of All Things" (万物創造, Banbutsu Sōzō). The process he used is explained to have initially involved the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy which forms the basis of Yin chakra to create shape and form from nothingness. Then, through the application of vitality, and the physical energy which forms the basis of Yang chakra, he would breathe life into the prior form. Thus, a technique with the power to turn imagination into reality was born, known as Izanagi

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

I get a week off from reading this shitty manga

 

[nofrillz]

Dont recall saying that nobody can beat Nagato, but i'll bite. Nagato's abilities makes taijutsu and ninjutsu useless against him, plus this man can summon gedo mezo statue that absorb your soul. Whats this putting you in a rock stuff that your talking about? Do you mean the chibaku tensei when he makes a miniature moon? Well maybe Bee and Naruto can survive that with the help of their bijuu but I dont think anyone else can. Also vs Itachi with susano'o all he'd have to do was prolong the fight and Itachi would kill himself. btw If Pain was trying to kill naruto and not capture him he would be dead right now.



Yeah he's a real hero killing his family and friends, exterminating all of his race except one, and emotionally traumatizing his little brother whom he considers more precious than the village. Also killing them for the sake of those who look down on all his bloodline. There should be parades in his honor.

on one hand i agree with you, i can't see why killing your clan to save another another makes you a hero, its a good story line to set up an epic conflict, but if i was Sasuke i would be on the same tip, everyone in the leaf village should pay... this story is fustraiting i should be called Sasuke instead of Naruto his story is way better, his motivation is better,

if this story was called Sasuke instead of Naruto, Naruto would be a perfect villain, think about it, a bratty kid with a demon wolf inside him trying to grow up to be a king of the village that murdered your whole clan, your brother is a trader who killed his own family and then abandon him to live a lonely life by himself. when Sasuke finally get revenge on his brother, his super wise and super powerful great great ggggreat grandfather tells him the true story about the history of his people and he realized that his brother was brain washed into believing that what he was doing was right, but deep down inside he knew that killing his clan was wrong so he left him alive the last member of there tribe to avenge every life that was taken, and with old papa Madara help, he will rule over the people who killed his family... much better story