THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....
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I believe Vince told him to antagonize Rock, but i believe Cena & HHH are legitimately envious of his success outside of wrestling.
damn punk was great on the mic again..I almost got up and started clappin when he said the first thing he would do is change the title because of how ugly it was..
but right after the segment they showed a commercial advertising a wwe event in my local area ..and what was the main event??
John Cena versus Alberto Delrio in a street fight for the belt
on Aug 26...
Plus the "fire Cena" angle won't work with them already setting up Cena/Rock for Wrestlemania. Cena ain't going nowhere, win or lose.
The incident in Australia where CM Punk called an audience member a homo and the response from WWE to the gay groups pretty much confirmed that he's gone.
Reports say that he has been negotiating a new deal.They would not put this much focus on him and let him get away with what he's been saying the last couple of weeks if he wasn't expected to stay.
He's done unless they promise to start promoting him in proportion to how good he is and if they could do that, he wouldn't be leaving in the first place.
It's a workshoot. His contract really is up and he is serious about leaving but he could be re-signed. They knew his upcoming departure had gotten out and they're using it to build interest.
And just leaving doesn't mean he's gone forever (see Jericho, Chris). He could leave now and come back as a surprise entrant for the Rumble.
I don't think so. HHH is probably living his dream as a top wrestler and being backstage in Creative. Unlike Rock, he wasn't raised in the business, shit, people call him "Hunter" in real life. If the opportunity to make some movie money comes up, he goes for it but I think Rock leaving to make movies made him extremely happy. Watching Rock be a headliner over him was probably when he was most jealous. Same with Cena.
Another big problem with announcing Cena/Rock for Mania next year.
They've been trying to work out a new deal for a while, even before they shot the angle.
They want him to stay, he wants to leave. Anything can happen but as of today, he still hasn't re-signed.
Out go GenMe and Orlando Jordan
in comes
NEW TNA SIGNING
by Mike Johnson @ 10:22 PM on 7/12/2011
Former WWE, TNA and ECW star Kid Kash has signed a deal to return to TNA
So maybe they are going to use the X-Division in a strong way.
I could agree with that but let me just say he did Blade Trinity and was reduced to the chaperone, and Cena tried to go hollywood but vince couldn't grease enough palms. NBC & WWE have a working relationship and they couldn't get Cena to at least appear in a skit for SNL when the show was really reaching for host
I could agree with that but let me just say he did Blade Trinity and was reduced to the chaperone, and Cena tried to go hollywood but vince couldn't grease enough palms. NBC & WWE have a working relationship and they couldn't get Cena to at least appear in a skit for SNL when the show was really reaching for host
True. I'm not saying they would turn down movie roles but they aren't like a lot of the Divas who come in because they think it's a good way to get into Maxam or Playboy or further their modeling careers. These two guys are heavy duty marks, who if they weren't wrestlers, would be making blogs and following WWE, TNA, ROH and every indie promotion in the country. Rock's like Floyd Mayweather Jr. in that he's seen the business in a way that makes him appreciate it but not really love it because he knows the business can't love you back. He didn't want to be a wrestler, he wanted to play football. HHH and Cena, this is all they ever wanted to do.
Rock did want to be a wrestler but he loved football as well, when that didn't pan out his father was the main one telling him not to wrestle. I honestly can't respect guys like cena who get heralded for their hard work and dedication like they do it for free, he's getting paid very well for what he does and i feel they push that bullshit to sway more fans his way. It's sad that the only way you get respect in wrestling is if you do it till you die or have too many injuries, i mean god forbid you leave on your own terms like rock healthy happy and wealthy. I believe it was bret who said you should never fell like a slave to wrestling and he was absolutely right. One thing Rock returning did show me though was how big a hypocrites these guys really are, Cena & Punk celebrate SCSA but i forgot about this
Austin didn't come back, bury the top guy for months with little payback and a Mania main event payday. Different stories.
I don't think a lot of the "burying" is legit but heat to slow simmer Rock's return. In 2011, everyone knows everything is recorded, especially in an arena with thousands of people.
I'm glad that Rock was able to walk away and not be thrown out like most wrestlers. I think, and most people in and out of the business, see it as a big positive for the business.
Cena did work hard for very little money for a while before he got the big money and he's continued to improve (in the ring anyway if not on the mic) when some guys (Warrior, Sid) get to the main event and just stop working.
As far as the Austin deal im really just using him as an example of someone who did walk out, but all is forgiven if you show up once in a while(or in his case too much). I respect everything that SCSA has done but i feel like people get selective amnesia when it comes to him. As far as Rock burying Cena HHH has taken some digs at his wrestling/mic skills as well, not saying it's right but to me Cena is the top guy only on paper.
Edit: Uh Oh Cena gets owned by Rock yet again 1:57 says it all
They won't let him do this on live tv because what you see/hear when you watch this would be the final nail in cena's coffin and im not exaggerating. www.whosay.com/DwayneJohnson/videos/46340
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As far as the Austin deal im really just using him as an example of someone who did walk out, but all is forgiven if you show up once in a while(or in his case too much). I respect everything that SCSA has done but i feel like people get selective amnesia when it comes to him. As far as Rock burying Cena HHH has taken some digs at his wrestling/mic skills as well, not saying it's right but to me Cena is the top guy only on paper.
Edit: Uh Oh Cena gets owned by Rock yet again 1:57 says it all
www.whosay.com/DwayneJohnson/videos/46340
Hey, Cena's not great in the ring but the guy who feuded with Miz is a lot better than when he beat JBL.
But somehow, he's regressed on the mic. The shit is incredible in a negative way.
I get what you're saying on Austin but dude got his neck broke and came back and still worked his ass off, that's always going to get a dude some points with "the boys".
Hey, Cena's not great in the ring but the guy who feuded with Miz is a lot better than when he beat JBL.
But somehow, he's regressed on the mic. The shit is incredible in a negative way.
I get what you're saying on Austin but dude got his neck broke and came back and still worked his ass off, that's always going to get a dude some points with "the boys".
Honestly i liked him better during the JBL run the fact that he put on a very pathetic match at mania really takes alot of shine of the hard work label. Austin coming back from the broken neck knowing that 1 wrong move and he could be droz took a lot and i mean a lot of guts, but what the wwe is trying to portray now is he's the attitude era never mentioning rock and the VASTLY underrated mick foley.
Now Foley, that's the dude being done wrong. Even when he was there, they never treated him like he was a Rock-SCSA level legend and he was since he helped get both of those guys over and made HHH a legit main event guy. Shit, it was his match with Michaels that made people look at Shawn in a new light.
As far as the Austin deal im really just using him as an example of someone who did walk out, but all is forgiven if you show up once in a while(or in his case too much). I respect everything that SCSA has done but i feel like people get selective amnesia when it comes to him. As far as Rock burying Cena HHH has taken some digs at his wrestling/mic skills as well, not saying it's right but to me Cena is the top guy only on paper.
Edit: Uh Oh Cena gets owned by Rock yet again 1:57 says it all
www.whosay.com/DwayneJohnson/videos/46340
MAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Rock went the FUCK in!
Im embarrassed @ how hard I marked out while watching that...
Hints that he might be as SummerSlam as well. They are playing this as well as you can for a match that won't happen until next spring.
Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo should note this is how you take real life events and make them into works that get fans into the angles without being too inside and turning people off.
You can only be talking about the great match they had at mind games right? That was such a great match and the fact that it's pretty much been forgotten about is a damn shame. Foley being called homeless harry by vince & hhh is what makes me hate those guys, HHH is jealous because foley was bigger than him at one time.
Attitude Era order imo
Austin
The Rock
Mick Foley
DX
HHH
Russo has long since proved he was not the main reason the AE was so successful, Bischoff on the other hand is worse because he seems to know what works but chooses to do the wrong thing on purpose. As far as the promo Rock cut i expect Cena to say "Why not show up and say it to my face"
, he will not have a good comeback for this one.
"Get your punk ass off The Rock's twitter"
"Get your punk ass off The Rock's twitter"
I've had to pause this video sooooooo many times just to laugh man...
I am literally sittin here with tissue cryin!
That's the order I have them at with probably the Undertaker about HHH as a singles.
Being a true old school guy, I doubt HHH is/was jealous of Foley. If anything, he knows it was Mick that made him a star, not once but twice. First in their feud in 97 and then again made him a headliner in 99-00. Sure he had beaten Austin and Rock by then but it was the Foley matches that turned the corner and made him legit.
You know I was talking about Mind Games.
Russo has long since proved he was not the main reason the AE was so successful, Bischoff on the other hand is worse because he seems to know what works but chooses to do the wrong thing on purpose. As far as the promo Rock cut i expect Cena to say "Why not show up and say it to my face"
I don't want to take anything away from Russo now. If it wasn't for him having the balls to tell Vince "Your product sucks" and then having better ideas (and stealing ECW's concept), WWF would probably be out of business by now.
Bish, on the other hand, I don't think does know what works. After the nWo died down, he was out of ideas. Goldberg was a fluke, right guy at the right time doing the right things, sometimes by accident (the first interview where he walked off on Gene Okerlund was supposed to be a short interview but he didn't know what to say so he walked off). Remember, this is the guy who came up with Glacier and the Blood Runs Cold angle and the Team Challenge Series in the AWA. Bischoff is a much better character than executive and even his character is old. Even Vince knew when it was time to come off tv.
That's the order I have them at with probably the Undertaker about HHH as a singles.
Being a true old school guy, I doubt HHH is/was jealous of Foley. If anything, he knows it was Mick that made him a star, not once but twice. First in their feud in 97 and then again made him a headliner in 99-00. Sure he had beaten Austin and Rock by then but it was the Foley matches that turned the corner and made him legit.
You know I was talking about Mind Games.
I can't believe i forgot to add Taker(who happens to be my favorite)to the list. You know when something is great when you don't even have to post the video and people remember for example "One's physical and the other is mental"
I can not stop laughing at this shit. Rock just handled Cena again but the damn Wonder Woman comment had me laughing so damn loud the people at work was wondering what was so damn funny. First CM Punk, now Rock, it just proves that Cena needs to work on his mic skills.
Funny Rock video
If they were going to let Cena go at The Rock on TV and live shows, they could've at least wrote some shit for Cena to say. The "I'm a wrestler, he's an actor, I do this every day" angle isn't going to win him any clout because he's tried to be an actor and the Rock's already paid his dues as a wrestler.
It seems like the only reason Cena wants the Rock to be there more often is so he can piggy back off his legend to get the respect of the fans. He's not satisfied with just being the top guy.
What good is being there everyday when half the people don't want to see you everyday? People could watch Rock everyday, Austin, Foley, Taker, HBK, HHH because they became better entertainers. But instead of earning respect by becoming a better entertainer, Cena wants to piggyback and it's actually making people who don't respect him (whom he is trying to get respect from) lose even more respect for him. The only people cheering when he's says the shit are the people who already mark out for him.
If they were going to let Cena go at The Rock on TV and live shows, they could've at least wrote some shit for Cena to say. The "I'm a wrestler, he's an actor, I do this every day" angle isn't going to win him any clout because he's tried to be an actor and the Rock's already paid his dues as a wrestler.
It seems like the only reason Cena wants the Rock to be there more often is so he can piggy back off his legend to get the respect of the fans. He's not satisfied with just being the top guy.
What good is being there everyday when half the people don't want to see you everyday? People could watch Rock everyday, Austin, Foley, Taker, HBK, HHH because they became better entertainers. But instead of earning respect by becoming a better entertainer, Cena wants to piggyback and it's actually making people who don't respect him (whom he is trying to get respect from) lose even more respect for him. The only people cheering when he's says the shit are the people who already mark out for him.
I can't believe i forgot to add Taker(who happens to be my favorite)to the list. You know when something is great when you don't even have to post the video and people remember for example "One's physical and the other is mental"
Man, I love the Rock(no Homo - pause) :LOL:
Also, I had one of those icecream bars as a kid and never had it again, that was one of the nastiest things i've ever eaten!
Also, I had one of those icecream bars as a kid and never had it again, that was one of the nastiest things i've ever eaten!
Im now waiting for Orton to say someone wrote that promo for rock
The best thing for Orton to do right now is know his role and shut his mouth. After the way he threw Kelly Kelly under the bus he should be the last person giving out comments on what someone else said.
I'm a Cena fan but geez, Rock was in rare form on that one. Only he says the word bitch with so much emphasis that it's almost humiliating.
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But Cena still gon beat dat ass at WM
I'm a Cena fan but geez, Rock was in rare form on that one. Only he says the word bitch with so much emphasis that it's almost humiliating.
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But Cena still gon beat dat ass at WM
Damn....on purpose?
Cena responded and as expected womp womp
Havent Cena left before to make his own crappy movies ??? There will come a time when he will leave for an extended period.
That nucca rock with the napalm drop
