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chrislee said:
Creative Idea For Zack Ryder – New Faction

Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

– There was an idea pitched at a creative meeting several weeks ago where someone suggested that they put Zack Ryder in a new faction alongside WWE Tag Team Champions David Otunga and Michael McGillicutty. This all depends on CM Punk’s WWE future and whether or not they decide to kill off the Nexus once/if he leaves.


Mason Ryan To Debut New Gimmick?

Partial Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

– Mason Ryan is expected to be repackaged upon returning to WWE. There has been talk that he’ll be used in a bodyguard role, possibly for The Miz or Alberto Del Rio.
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I wish Zack luck. As well as the other low carders and dark matchers.

As far as Mason Ryan goes not a bad idea to use a body guard.

However in the future I would love to see a faction with Ryan(Wales), Barret(Britain), Sheamus(Ireland), and McIntyre(Scotland). That is the United Kingdom right there. Maybe call themselves the UK Knights or something.
 
rwill784 said:
Come on dog, the backstage beatdowns, Austin attacking Pillmans trailer park home, flushing pillmans head in the toilet, pillman ringing the bell when Austin had Taker beat at the ppv. That feud was great, it's all on that old SCSA "cuz stone cold said so" tape.

And Highway to hell summerslam was the shit, Austin vs Taker and Kane at No way out (I think), Austin getting hung by Taker on that cross?!? Classic.

I'll give you the Angle one because both characters were mad cheesey at that point (Angle was a dork, and Austin was playin love songs to Vince on a guitar) but the in-ring work was good. (Angle is one of the best wrestlers EVER IMHO).

Yeah, I might be mistaken on the Nation, but I remember Austin stunning D-Lo and Henry, and beating Godfathers ass to get to Rock so yeah it's more Austin vs Rock than the Nation.

I was a big SCSA fan so remember most of them all. Call me a stan I guess.....:D

As for Orton, he's better suited as a heel, they are trying to make him the Cena for Smackdown and that shit is horrible! Christian should be the face and Orton the villian, even though Christian can play any role because he's a great performer.

Please Jericho come back and save us from shitty tv...:lol:
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No doubt Austin had some great moments and "cause stone cold said so" is still one of my favorite vhs/dvd home videos. Highway To Hell was the epitome of epic i mean they debuted a new music video for it:yes: And tell em you remember Austin dumping Kane in the hearse then going to open the door only to see taker turn his head to him then drive off:dance::dance:

Orton is a better heel but ever since "kofi gate" i've never viewed him the same since then. He completely lost all points with me because imo he proved everyone right when they would say he's a dick in real life. Jericho would be a nice change but i don't believe they would use him right again.
 
That Jack Evans match was worth watching a whole impact show by itself. Hope he wins the contract match. First time I saw one of his full matches other than just highlights. Dude has some nice moves.
 
chrislee said:
That Jack Evans match was worth watching a whole impact show by itself. Hope he wins the contract match. First time I saw one of his full matches other than just highlights. Dude has some nice moves.
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He can flip all over the place but his promos are horrible.I'm hoping that Austin Aries wins that match.They probably should just sign at least a couple of the other competitors and restock the division.
 
rwill784 said:
Come on dog, the backstage beatdowns, Austin attacking Pillmans trailer park home, flushing pillmans head in the toilet, pillman ringing the bell when Austin had Taker beat at the ppv. That feud was great, it's all on that old SCSA "cuz stone cold said so" tape.

And Highway to hell summerslam was the shit, Austin vs Taker and Kane at No way out (I think), Austin getting hung by Taker on that cross?!? Classic.

I'll give you the Angle one because both characters were mad cheesey at that point (Angle was a dork, and Austin was playin love songs to Vince on a guitar) but the in-ring work was good. (Angle is one of the best wrestlers EVER IMHO).

Yeah, I might be mistaken on the Nation, but I remember Austin stunning D-Lo and Henry, and beating Godfathers ass to get to Rock so yeah it's more Austin vs Rock than the Nation.

I was a big SCSA fan so remember most of them all. Call me a stan I guess.....:D

As for Orton, he's better suited as a heel, they are trying to make him the Cena for Smackdown and that shit is horrible! Christian should be the face and Orton the villian, even though Christian can play any role because he's a great performer.

Please Jericho come back and save us from shitty tv...:lol:
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Of course you're a "stan", we all are or can be, that's what makes us watch even when it's shitty.:D

Still, he and Pillman had great moments but not a great feud because Pillman couldn't work. They were better when they feuded in WCW after the Hollywood Blondes broke up.

I agree that Orton's better as a heel but they want to make him a face but they're doing it wrong. A guy who can work on Orton's level should be allowed to and not be made to squeeze in the same three or four moves into a match whether they fit or not. Christian has earned a huge raise for making these matches good but if he doesn't win this last time, this whole thing was a fucking waste and makes him look weak. Unfortunately with Sheamus and Mark Henry and Wade Barrett in the wings, I don't see them putting the belt on a heel unless they're going for a ladder match with Orton and Christian at SummerSlam.

dirtyd said:
No doubt Austin had some great moments and "cause stone cold said so" is still one of my favorite vhs/dvd home videos. Highway To Hell was the epitome of epic i mean they debuted a new music video for it:yes: And tell em you remember Austin dumping Kane in the hearse then going to open the door only to see taker turn his head to him then drive off:dance::dance:
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That was some awesome tv.:yes:

Orton is a better heel but ever since "kofi gate" i've never viewed him the same since then. He completely lost all points with me because imo he proved everyone right when they would say he's a dick in real life. Jericho would be a nice change but i don't believe they would use him right again.
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If/when Jericho gets back, I have confidence that he'll be used correctly because he doesn't let them feed him bullshit.

O.J PIMPSON said:
Orton needs to watch hours and hors of Jake The Snake Roberts interviews and promos
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I think he already has and that's why he sucks. Jake Roberts was an original while Randy comes off as doing Jake Roberts karaoke. Shit, he didn't become boring until he fed all the way into "The Viper" gimmick.

c_commander said:
He can flip all over the place but his promos are horrible.I'm hoping that Austin Aries wins that match.They probably should just sign at least a couple of the other competitors and restock the division.
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I hope they do. This was my first time seeing Dakota Darsow and he was really good and would be a great X-Division heel. They can add Xion and Evans to bring in some flippy guys and Darsow for a heel and Aries as a veteran. Add them with Kazarian, Kendricks, and Red and you should have one to two great athletic matches for every Impact! and ppv.
I'm surprised to not see Petey Williams brought back in for at least one "Destroyer".
 
Joe and Kazarian will be opening the show so they're starting off with a bang.
This will determine for me whether Joe's in line for a push or a burial.
 
I just noticed Orton's Lou Thesz press the other night - dear god that shit is ugly as fuck. Knees to the shoulders?
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Of course you're a "stan", we all are or can be, that's what makes us watch even when it's shitty.:D

Still, he and Pillman had great moments but not a great feud because Pillman couldn't work. They were better when they feuded in WCW after the Hollywood Blondes broke up.
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It's really unfortunate that Pillman had that car accident as it was basically the beginning of the end for him and made his time in the WWE alot less memorable.Watching his matches in WCW vs his matches in the WWF is evident of that.As great the Hollywood Blondes were the politics in WCW screwed them over hugely.And trugh be told I couldn't appreciate their greatness back then.
I agree that Orton's better as a heel but they want to make him a face but they're doing it wrong. A guy who can work on Orton's level should be allowed to and not be made to squeeze in the same three or four moves into a match whether they fit or not. Christian has earned a huge raise for making these matches good but if he doesn't win this last time, this whole thing was a fucking waste and makes him look weak. Unfortunately with Sheamus and Mark Henry and Wade Barrett in the wings, I don't see them putting the belt on a heel unless they're going for a ladder match with Orton and Christian at SummerSlam.
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To me they've done with Barrett recently to make him seem like a viable contender.The way that Sheamus came back I think that a feud with Christian would be believable and good.Hell with Christian screwing over everybody including Henry a couple weeks back all these people have legitimate beef with him that could be worked in.

I hope they do. This was my first time seeing Dakota Darsow and he was really good and would be a great X-Division heel. They can add Xion and Evans to bring in some flippy guys and Darsow for a heel and Aries as a veteran. Add them with Kazarian, Kendricks, and Red and you should have one to two great athletic matches for every Impact! and ppv.
I'm surprised to not see Petey Williams brought back in for at least one "Destroyer".
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I wouldn't mind them keeping Jimmy Rave as well as long as they drop the Guitar Hero shit.He can work and can be a good heel as he showed in ROH.I missed the 2nd match so I can't comment on that but I would loved to see El Generico show up for one of the matches.Not to win since he's entrenched in ROH but just compete.
 
If TNA can see what that X division match for that contract was and continue down the bullshit path they been on b4 that they deserve to go out of business! That shit was awesome, give them all a contract
 
BiggBawlzMcGee said:
I just noticed Orton's Lou Thesz press the other night - dear god that shit is ugly as fuck. Knees to the shoulders?
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:lol:
Yep, we were clowning him a couple of pages ago for that weak shit.

I give Destination X a solid 8 and i knew RVD/Lynn would bust out that classic spot :dance: I guarantee this ppv will be better than MITB.

R.K.O said:
Ya'll remember the bedpan beat down?

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"Oh i'll take it from here nurse" That line will live on forever.
 
dirtyd said:
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Yep, we were clowning him a couple of pages ago for that weak shit.

I give Destination X a solid 8 and i knew RVD/Lynn would bust out that classic spot :dance: I guarantee this ppv will be better than MITB.



"Oh i'll take it from here nurse" That line will live on forever.
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I never pay attention to it :lol:

Here's the number one reason Orton needs to be heel, this never needs to happen again:



What the hell was that fool thinkin'? Even the referee was like "what the fuck was that?"
 
dirtyd said:
I give Destination X a solid 8 and i knew RVD/Lynn would bust out that classic spot :dance: I guarantee this ppv will be better than MITB.
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Yep.
Yo, when Aries called out people who were watching on an illegal feed, I :lol:.
Joe lost but he brought out his working shoes and him and Kazarian were going at it.
Styles and Daniels had probably the longest main event of WWE and Impact Wrestling and it was good.
I was surprised Kendrick won. I thought they would build up Abyss as a monster champion for a while longer. But Kendrick vs. Shelley has a good ring to it, throw in Austin Aries and you have guys who can go and have great matches for months.
All the guys should get a contract from that match but damn Jack Evans is over. He's so-so on the mic but he's got amazing charisma. Each of the losers and the ones who didn't advance on Impact! should have good futures in this company and in the business.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Yep.
Yo, when Aries called out people who were watching on an illegal feed, I :lol:.
Joe lost but he brought out his working shoes and him and Kazarian were going at it.
Styles and Daniels had probably the longest main event of WWE and Impact Wrestling and it was good.
I was surprised Kendrick won. I thought they would build up Abyss as a monster champion for a while longer. But Kendrick vs. Shelley has a good ring to it, throw in Austin Aries and you have guys who can go and have great matches for months.
All the guys should get a contract from that match but damn Jack Evans is over. He's so-so on the mic but he's got amazing charisma. Each of the losers and the ones who didn't advance on Impact! should have good futures in this company and in the business.
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I died :lol:
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Yep.
Yo, when Aries called out people who were watching on an illegal feed, I :lol:.
Joe lost but he brought out his working shoes and him and Kazarian were going at it.
Styles and Daniels had probably the longest main event of WWE and Impact Wrestling and it was good.
I was surprised Kendrick won. I thought they would build up Abyss as a monster champion for a while longer. But Kendrick vs. Shelley has a good ring to it, throw in Austin Aries and you have guys who can go and have great matches for months.
All the guys should get a contract from that match but damn Jack Evans is over. He's so-so on the mic but he's got amazing charisma. Each of the losers and the ones who didn't advance on Impact! should have good futures in this company and in the business.
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When Aries called people out and said that I hope that you choke on what you're eating on I thought to myself that I'm glad that I'm not eating.He should be a great X division guy but at some point he should be moved away from strictly doing X division matches because he was right.He can go with anybody on the roster both in the ring and on the mic.

I thought that Kendrick would win but they did a horrible job of building up the match to the point that people cared.

Jack Evans does some crazy shit and his promo was better than usual.Question is, how their agreement with Mexico is and whether he do shows on a regular basis but in a way he can be almost like the new Jeff Hardy getting himself over by doing the craziest thing imaginable.
 
c_commander said:
When Aries called people out and said that I hope that you choke on what you're eating on I thought to myself that I'm glad that I'm not eating.He should be a great X division guy but at some point he should be moved away from strictly doing X division matches because he was right.He can go with anybody on the roster both in the ring and on the mic.

I thought that Kendrick would win but they did a horrible job of building up the match to the point that people cared.

Jack Evans does some crazy shit and his promo was better than usual.Question is, how their agreement with Mexico is and whether he do shows on a regular basis but in a way he can be almost like the new Jeff Hardy getting himself over by doing the craziest thing imaginable.
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Aries could work with anyone but I'd leave him there to help build and maintain the X-Division unless they sign Roderick Strong and reform that tag team.

I remembered TNA's deal with the Mexican feds and that had me thinking Jack was going to win. Given that and the reception he got, he'll be back. They'll come up with some reason to bring him back.
 
O.J PIMPSON said:
The WWE really missed on Lo Ki!! I've watched that match 4 times now, them cats got after it
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:yes:

O.J PIMPSON said:
Mysterio been champ twice!! They had more than enough normal size cats for him to brawl with. remember he was over with the fans big time, but he only won like 1 match after he won NXT.
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Had they used him to feud with Mysterio or Ziggler (they had a couple really good matches) or Punk, he would have been fine and they would have had Sin Cara to come in and be another guy for him to work with.
But everyone, including him, knew what it was when he was constantly in the ring with 6'5 Jack Swagger, 6'6 Drew McIntyre, 6'6 Tyler Reks (who beat him, took his spot at SummerSlam and then went nowhere) and the Big Show. They let him and everyone else know that they wrong guy won NXT and they were going to fix it.

Rey appeals to Mexicans at a time when they're expanding into Mexico and sells a ton of merch (those fucking masks cost $60 a pop when I went to Mania and they sell a bunch of those at every show). Add that he really got Eddie's spot when he first won the title and he is the biggest exception to the rule.
 
Coming off a another solid ppv, TNA just lost a tag team

TAG TEAM GONE FROM TNA
by Mike Johnson @ 4:24 PM on 7/11/2011

Nick and Matt Jackson, aka Jeremy and Max Buck, requested their TNA releases yesterday and have received them. The team officially finished up at the Destination X PPV.


A damn shame. Those guys are very good and have become better workers since coming to TNA, particularly Max, who had a great match with Kazarian a couple months ago.
Considering Homicide and Daniels are finished, Sinclair should snatch the Young Bucks up and throw them in the mix with the All Night Express, Haas and Benjamin, the Briscoes, and the Bravados. They may need them if Hero and Claudio leave for WWE.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Coming off a another solid ppv, TNA just lost a tag team

TAG TEAM GONE FROM TNA
by Mike Johnson @ 4:24 PM on 7/11/2011

Nick and Matt Jackson, aka Jeremy and Max Buck, requested their TNA releases yesterday and have received them. The team officially finished up at the Destination X PPV.


A damn shame. Those guys are very good and have become better workers since coming to TNA, particularly Max, who had a great match with Kazarian a couple months ago.
Considering Homicide and Daniels are finished, Sinclair should snatch the Young Bucks up and throw them in the mix with the All Night Express, Haas and Benjamin, the Briscoes, and the Bravados. They may need them if Hero and Claudio leave for WWE.
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Good move by the Young Bucks.They are a good example when talking about TNA's nonsensical storylines.They came in worked a match,got a contract and then did nothing for months,finally TNA pushes them suddenly only to have them lose 1 tag title match and immediately start jobbing them out.Then they rushed a split for the time only to put them back together a month later and then to top things off they had them lose to Eric Young and Shark Boy(who's not with the company anymore) last night.I hope they do go back to ROH where they worked at the Best in the World show last month against another good young team in Kyle O'Reilly and Adam Cole.Cornette really does know how to push tag team wrestling the right way.

And while Mysterio has been champ twice.He got it the first time in response to Eddie's death and his first title reign was an abomination with him jobbing to everybody including to Khali in less than 5 minutes.And the only reason he continues to get pushed is because he brings in ratings and merchandise sales.If his sales were half as big as they are he'd be stuck in mid card purgatory if he was lucky.
 
O.J PIMPSON said:
Mysterio been champ twice!! They had more than enough normal size cats for him to brawl with. remember he was over with the fans big time, but he only won like 1 match after he won NXT.
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one of those times shouldn't count because of the death of Eddie, sort of like what they did with Christian after Edge retired
 
damn punk was great on the mic again..I almost got up and started clappin when he said the first thing he would do is change the title because of how ugly it was..:lol::dance:

but right after the segment they showed a commercial advertising a wwe event in my local area ..and what was the main event??

John Cena versus Alberto Delrio in a street fight for the belt

on Aug 26...:smh:
 
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