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QueEx said:Just got a call from a reliable source on the ground in N.O. who says police engaged men carrying guns on a bridge shooting 6 or 7 and that 4 or 5 were probably dead.
QueEx said:Just got a call from a reliable source on the ground in N.O. who says police engaged men carrying guns on a bridge shooting 6 or 7 and that 4 or 5 were probably dead.
gene cisco said:The more shit changes the more it stays the same!!!!!!
Seriously, good guys and bad guys are armed. They want to disarm folks and send them around 20000 people holed up in a dome where you get jumped for an avian water.
Alot of people do not want to leave, hell they survived for aweek without the fuckers they like we are staying.
Then they saying contractprs got bust at, its crazy. Peole have generators and are scared to turn them on cause thye AINT armed.
ALso there are stories of neighbors coming together and forming "groups" ala survivor, handing out tasks and survivng just fine, even protecting against real looters.
On a related note, this underscores the need for strong 2nd amendment protections. The actions of the police may have been fought off by an armed citizenry. Of course, the cops knew that, and that is why they were randomly disarming its own citizens.

Do you have hard statistics to back the underscored argument ? ? ?
I’m also a bit surprised bro that you would pretend to know what was in the minds of those members of the New Orleans police force on September 4, 2005 at the Danziner Bridge.![]()
What . . . if those folks were armed, they may have stood a much better chance of living.
If they had been armed, changes are, many more of them could/would have been killed -- simply because they would have presented more targets with a more compelling arguments, rightfully or wrongfully (and the actual shooting itself proves that those police on that occassion didn't need a "right" reason) on behalf of the police to engage those who were armed including those whom the police believed to be armed, (whether or not they were), and those whom the police might argue somehow appeared to be aiding and abetting those who were armed and who appeared to pose a danger to them (the police). Its not a stretch, in my mind, to see a calamitous situation of armed people, including the police, with various misunderstandings running between them, resulting in untold numbers of people shot and possibly killed.
I'm one of those who believe that the fewer "illegal guns" out there, the better. And, I don't agree with those who argue that the Second Amendment confers an absolute right to bear arms.
QueEx
I undestand your point, but i do not agree. Sometimes you need to repel an attack until back up can arrive.
Perhaps, but that dead child just beyond the som-bitch you were shooting at won't take any solace from your side of the story.Even if you are tried for a gun crime, you at least have a chance to tell your side of the story. There is an old saying - "I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six."
Also, attached are some links related to the confiscation of arms during the Katrina catastrophe
I certainly believe in the notion of self-defense. I believe the law of self defense in most jurisdictions in this country only permits the use of deadly force (i.e., a firearm), in self defense, to protect one's life or the life of another, when either is being immediately threatened with deadly force. Arguably, if there were fewer guns, there would be fewer lives threatened by guns and, therefore, fewer situations to repel deadly force, especially where firearms are at issue.
I also believe that permitting the entire populace to be armed is tantamount to an invitation to chaos.
Perhaps, but that dead child just beyond the som-bitch you were shooting at won't take any solace from your side of the story.
The police officers involved in the Danziger Bridge murders didn't give a shit whether their victims were armed or not or whether others in the crowd or near the occurrence were armed. If any had been and they pulled their weapons, they may very well have been fatalities themselves, instead of witnesses living with their families and able to tell us today what happened on the 4th day of September, 2005
There are a couple of things I disagree with:
A: If the reduction of guns were the issue, cities would be safer places. They are not. It is just the law abiding who are not armed well.
B: There are many countries that have a high gun to person ratio but have much less gun violence than here.
If you look through history, you will find that the chaos often begins with the disarming of the people.
Those cops were fucking murderous thugs, and I think that just being at thier mercy through being disarmed goes against self preservation.
Five Former NOPD Officers Sentenced to 6 to 65
Years in Prison for Danziger Bridge Shootings
WWNO
(University of New Orleans)
April 5, 2012
Five former New Orleans police officers will serve from six to 65 years in prison
for their parts in a notorious shooting after Hurricane Katrina in 2005. Two
unarmed civilians were killed and four others injured.
Victims were crossing the Danziger Bridge, seeking shelter after the hurricane
left the city in chaos. Police responding to reports of shots fired at officers at
the bridge opened fire on the civilians. A mentally disabled man and a teenaged
boy were killed; four others were seriously hurt. Victims spoke at the sentencing
in federal court of their sorrow. Witnesses for the former officers testified of the
strain they were under after the storm. Four officers will serve decades for their
role in the shootings. One will serve six years for helping stage a cover-up.
http://www.wwno.org/post/five-former-nopd-officers-sentenced-danziger-bridge-shootings
. . . "bad apples" in their midst make all of them look bad and make the job more dangerous for every one of them. These are not your "brothers in blue", these are thugs in matching uniforms no different than gangbangers with matching colors.