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dirtyd · Jul 3, 2011

If this doesn't prove cena is the phoniest guy in wrestling.

WWE Champion John Cena ripped into The Rock during a post-match promo at the July 3 live event in Perth, Australia. "Where is the so called captain of Team Bring It?," Cena asked. "And if he is the captain of Team Bring It, what are they bringing a doctor's note that he can't fly all the way to Australia and entertain the WWE Universe out here in Perth?

"I don't care if I've got to play G.I. Joe, Fast Five, Fast Six, Godzilla, King Kong, and Julius Caesar all rolled into one, I want to be in the middle of this ring, defending this championship in front of all of you, because I am not an actor, I am a professional wrestler. That is what I do because of crowds like you.

"So if you cried (inaudible) tears for an actor to get back in the ring, you take your tears and your t-shirt with a bull, fold them up real nice, put them in your dresser and wait until April 1st because that is the only time The People's Champ will say that he loves all of you. But tonight from myself, from all the WWE Superstars who flew 20 hours to be here in front of you, I simply say thank you."

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Im not an actor, Im a wrestler??? So we're just suppose to forget (it won't be hard to)The Marine & 12 Rounds huh? This shows he's just jealous because he tried to be an actor and fell flat on his face with 2 box office bombs

dtownsfinest · Jul 3, 2011

rwill784 said:
IDK about the Cena bashing to me it seems like dude just be busting his ass doing nothing but repping WWE all day 24/7. I like dude though from when he was "dr. of thuganomics" his best days were when he was on smackdown feuding with Angle and JBL.

Orton just seems like another one of those underwear models Vince likes to push to the top (I think Vince is gay).

Randy does nothing but dumb shit from what I've heard but continues to make himself look like a asshole dispite WWE basically handing him the keys. If they been keeping Punk down because of his mouth then Randy should suffer too. The difference is unlike Orton Punk is prolly the most entertaining dude on WWE roster right now besides R Truth.

I agree. I use to hate Cena but in reality he does everything right. Seems like a good dude, doesn't have asshole tendencies like Orton. My problem is with WWE on how they push him. IMO, they're holding him back. His matches fucking suck and they got this nigga wrestling with 3 moves. They got R Truth whooping his ass for 5 minutes and getting beat by water and 3 damn moves. :lol:

Orton is a dick head. He's the reason why Vince wants nothing but 6'5 white guys on the roster.

dtownsfinest · Jul 3, 2011

dirtyd said:
If this doesn't prove cena is the phoniest guy in wrestling.

Im not an actor, Im a wrestler??? So we're just suppose to forget (it won't be hard to)The Marine & 12 Rounds huh? This shows he's just jealous because he tried to be an actor and fell flat on his face with 2 box office bombs

This is him just building up that Wrestlemania match I feel. I mean Cena may have some from of jealousy building with the Rock getting more of a pop than he EVER will but I don't see how this is just not a "work". I mean he's bringing up this "Team Bring It" bullshit. :lol:

Rock probably somewhere laughing while counting his millions and thinking to himself, "Is this fruity pebble bitch seriously doing this in July?"

dirtyd · Jul 3, 2011

dtownsfinest said:
This is him just building up that Wrestlemania match I feel. I mean Cena may have some from of jealousy building with the Rock getting more of a pop than he EVER will but I don't see how this is just not a "work". I mean he's bringing up this "Team Bring It" bullshit. Rock probably somewhere laughing while counting his millions and thinking to himself, "Is this fruity pebble bitch seriously doing this in July?"

I agree he's hyping up their WM match, but he talks about not being an actor while he's filmed/filming movies. Honestly after Rock made him look minor league i wouldn't want him to come back, but Rock is probably laughing at him & orton because no matter how many times they diss him he's still picking up W and they stay taking L.

dtownsfinest said:
I agree. I use to hate Cena but in reality he does everything right. Seems like a good dude, doesn't have asshole tendencies like Orton. My problem is with WWE on how they push him. IMO, they're holding him back. His matches fucking suck and they got this nigga wrestling with 3 moves. They got R Truth whooping his ass for 5 minutes and getting beat by water and 3 damn moves. Orton is a dick head. He's the reason why Vince wants nothing but 6'5 white guys on the roster.

Reports and they're just reports state that cena is just as big a dick as orton, i remember when shad got released and they did an interview with him he was asked to describe cena and he just laughed. Im also sick of blaming booking for his shortcomings he's a big enough star to change some things if he wanted to.

dtownsfinest · Jul 3, 2011

dirtyd said:
I agree he's hyping up their WM match, but he talks about not being an actor while he's filmed/filming movies. Reports and they're just reports state that cena is just as big a dick as orton, i remember when shad got released and they did an interview with him he was asked to describe cena and he just laughed.

Oh really? You got the interview? It wouldn't shock me. His image is a little too "clean" for someone who's as big as he is in that company. I think Orton just might be more visible with his shit.

dirtyd · Jul 3, 2011

dtownsfinest said:
Oh really? You got the interview? It wouldn't shock me. His image is a little too "clean" for someone who's as big as he is in that company. I think Orton just might be more visible with his shit.

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What caused heat between Cryme Tyme and the team of Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch: “Well, I mean, anybody who knows Lance Cade God rest the guy’s soul. Lance was a great guy personally. Great father to his kids, great guy to hang out with and chill with. Lance Cade the person and Lance Cade the wrestler are two totally different people. Lance Cade the person is a guy that I would fight for in a bar. Lance Cade the wrestler is a guy that would stab me in the back, stab me in the gut, and who has stabbed several of his friends to keep his career going. That’s what he was taught to do, so that’s what he did.”

His pay-per-view match with JTG and how it affected his push: “The outcome at the pay per view match kinda got messed up because we weren’t given information that was vital to our match. It’s one of those things where certain people don’t give you information for good reason in their opinion. And the good reason is, the pay-per-view match would have put me over big and would have set off a chain of events that would have led to me being number one contender for the WWE title eventually but certain people decided not to chime in and tell me what was going to happen in the match.”

Whether he’s talked to TNA: “I’ve talked to several wrestlers that work for TNA about me coming over. I was actually supposed to go to TNA show a couple of times with a friends of mine but I was still with the company(WWE) so I didn’t want to have a Highlander moment… I like TNA but I’d want to do something different if I came to TNA. I would want to make a boom rather than be like everybody else.”

Name association:

Shawn Michaels: “Ha (chuckles)….that’s about it.”

John Cena: “Ha (chuckles).”

Chris Jericho: “My mentor and my brother.”

Vince McMahon: “Workhorse.”

Other topics include the house show incident with Cade and Murdoch that got Cryme Tyme released, deciding to audition for Tough Enough, Cryme Tyme’s participation in Lita’s sendoff, who came up with the Cryme Tyme gimmick, whether he was really pulled from a Royal Rumble match, and how he figured out that he and JTG wouldn’t be getting the tag team titles.

Jericho seems like a guy who gets along with everyone, maybe because he's got more going on for himself besides wrestling(cena orton).

c_commander · Jul 3, 2011

dirtyd said:
Jericho seems like a guy who gets along with everyone, maybe because he's got more going on for himself besides wrestling(cena orton).

Even Orton gave Jericho credit for doing himself and not being scared of McMahon in the least.He doesn't seek permission to do something he tells McMahon what he's doing.Throw in the fact that he's guy that does it all well(promos,wrestling) and the fact that he doesn't mind losing or spent time blatantly worrying about his spot and of course guys will like him.They don't have to worry about him bullying them,stabbing them in the back or playing politics unlike guys like Cena.

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dirtyd · Jul 3, 2011

You're like the wrestling santa clause.

Upgrade Dave · Jul 3, 2011

dirtyd said:
Let me repeat what he said but differently, If i were mark henry i would give Orton a concussion on the way out (i.e last match ever)

I still say you wouldn't. If Kurt Angle and Jeff Jarrett can have matches and not cheapshot each other (and Chris Benoit and Kevin Sullivan before them and countless other guys with real heat) then no real pro is going to do something over some petty shit said in an interview.

Upgrade Dave · Jul 3, 2011

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tarizo312 · Jul 3, 2011

Upgrade Dave said:
I'm about to clear space on my harddrive because I just got a fileserve account and The Wrestling Godfather just dropped off some gifts.

More to come my friend!

tarizo312 · Jul 3, 2011

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TonyNJ1208 · Jul 4, 2011

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punk goes in on a fan lol

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The Pope · Jul 4, 2011

tarizo312 dude you have came in here dropping some fire !!!!!

dirtyd said:
If this doesn't prove cena is the phoniest guy in wrestling.

Im not an actor, Im a wrestler??? So we're just suppose to forget (it won't be hard to)The Marine & 12 Rounds huh? This shows he's just jealous because he tried to be an actor and fell flat on his face with 2 box office bombs

as bad as Cena sucked in the Marine and 12 Rounds, WWE Films will continue to push him in movies because, a. Cena is their driving force right now , b. Kids love Cena and Vince knows that, thats why he's hesitant to turn him heel mainly because he's afraid the merchandise sales might drop and c. If kids love Cena their parents will buy Cena merchandise.

dtownsfinest said:
I agree. I use to hate Cena but in reality he does everything right. Seems like a good dude, doesn't have asshole tendencies like Orton. My problem is with WWE on how they push him. IMO, they're holding him back. His matches fucking suck and they got this nigga wrestling with 3 moves. They got R Truth whooping his ass for 5 minutes and getting beat by water and 3 damn moves. Orton is a dick head. He's the reason why Vince wants nothing but 6'5 white guys on the roster.

I use to despise him as well but after stepping back and looking at it Cena hasnt done shit wrong but be an ambassador for the WWE. He's doing make-a-wish visits, doing tv spots, and is constantly in the ring performing, if anything he needs to be given a break eventually.Yeah his matches r boring as fuck and he does the same 4 moves every match he's still in the ring entertaining.

looking at RAW tonite and even though its a taped episode and I know the results already there is one thing that's confusing me: why are the powers that be are shitting on Miz with this Alex Riley angle ? If I'm right I think Riley has beat Miz every time. Hopefully he'll rebound and win the MITB cause he's been losing a lot lately.

Nochturnal · Jul 4, 2011

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c_commander · Jul 4, 2011

Spider-Man said:
tarizo312 dude you have came in here dropping some fire !!!!!

I use to despise him as well but after stepping back and looking at it Cena hasnt done shit wrong but be an ambassador for the WWE. He's doing make-a-wish visits, doing tv spots, and is constantly in the ring performing, if anything he needs to be given a break eventually.Yeah his matches r boring as fuck and he does the same 4 moves every match he's still in the ring entertaining.]

Thing is that he isn't anything special in the ring.He used to be good at promos but now it's the same b.s. everytime.Either he's doing the serious shit where he does his best to be a preacher or he's being jokey Cena with his sophomoric corny humor such as spray painting Poopy on JBL's limousine.Add to it the Super Cena act and it's why people don't like him.And there have been stories of him being a backstage bully as well.

looking at RAW tonite and even though its a taped episode and I know the results already there is one thing that's confusing me: why are the powers that be are shitting on Miz with this Alex Riley angle ? If I'm right I think Riley has beat Miz every time. Hopefully he'll rebound and win the MITB cause he's been losing a lot lately.

The Miz is over with the fans.And it's said that once a guy is over it doesn't matter how times he loses because if he came back and won a big match tomorrow it would still be convincing.Right now they are trying to Riley over so a loss does more damage to him than it does to Miz.And if Miz won the title at the next PPV it wouldn't be ridiculous.

The Pope · Jul 4, 2011

c_commander said:
Spider-Man said:

tarizo312 dude you have came in here dropping some fire !!!!!

Thing is that he isn't anything special in the ring.He used to be good at promos but now it's the same b.s. everytime.Either he's doing the serious shit where he does his best to be a preacher or he's being jokey Cena with his sophomoric corny humor such as spray painting Poopy on JBL's limousine.Add to it the Super Cena act and it's why people don't like him.And there have been stories of him being a backstage bully as well.

I can see him probably being a bully in the locker room since you got most of the old heads retiring and with HHH doing the executive thing Cena is kind of a big deal in the locker room.

The Miz is over with the fans.And it's said that once a guy is over it doesn't matter how times he loses because if he came back and won a big match tomorrow it would still be convincing.Right now they are trying to Riley over so a loss does more damage to him than it does to Miz.And if Miz won the title at the next PPV it wouldn't be ridiculous.

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well they have said long term they wont to give Miz a face turn so mabye down the road it might happen.

dirtyd · Jul 4, 2011

Having punk cut a "shoot" promo before during a double taping was not a smart move, the fact that people knew what would happen the following week really took the steam out of it imo. Watching the follow up added nothing as far as im concerned because neither vince or cena made the follow up memorable. Cena pandering to the crowd yet again shouting "Give these people what they want", if i were vince i would of said "If i gave these people what they wanted, you would've been future endeavored a long time ago".

c_commander · Jul 4, 2011

dirtyd said:
Having punk cut a "shoot" promo before during a double taping was not a smart move, the fact that people knew what would happen the following week really took the steam out of it imo. Watching the follow up added nothing as far as im concerned because neither vince or cena made the follow up memorable. Cena pandering to the crowd yet again shouting "Give these people what they want", if i were vince i would of said "If i gave these people what they wanted, you would've been future endeavored a long time ago".

It wasn't an ideal situation but the one good thing was that Punk wasn't on the show so we still have to wait to see what his reaction is and what he'll do next.

The Pope · Jul 4, 2011

dirtyd said:
Having punk cut a "shoot" promo before during a double taping was not a smart move, the fact that people knew what would happen the following week really took the steam out of it imo. Watching the follow up added nothing as far as im concerned because neither vince or cena made the follow up memorable. Cena pandering to the crowd yet again shouting "Give these people what they want", if i were vince i would of said "If i gave these people what they wanted, you would've been future endeavored a long time ago".

If I was Vince I would of said "If i gave these people what they wanted, I would of casted you in The Marine 2 instead of Diabase lol........."

Upgrade Dave · Jul 5, 2011

c_commander said:
It wasn't an ideal situation but the one good thing was that Punk wasn't on the show so we still have to wait to see what his reaction is and what he'll do next.

Pretty much. They have to build to the ppv and they had these tapings coming up so they were stuck.

Boy, there's something about seeing WCW right after Flair came back and before Hogan got there that just warms the heart. Damn that Vader was awesome. That is how you book a bad ass heel and still have strong faces for him.

dirtyd · Jul 5, 2011

Upgrade Dave said:
Boy, there's something about seeing WCW right after Flair came back and before Hogan got there that just warms the heart. Damn that Vader was awesome. That is how you book a bad ass heel and still have strong faces for him.

WCW was great back in the day even as a 6 year old i could see that, but i hated when hogan got there because it was clear that hulkamania was played out.

Upgrade Dave · Jul 5, 2011

dirtyd said:
WCW was great back in the day even as a 6 year old i could see that, but i hated when hogan got there because it was clear that hulkamania was played out.

They went from having hard hitting, great main events with Vader, Flair, Sting, Steamboat to Hogan squashing Flair and wrestling Brutus Beefcake at Starrcade. Shit was horrible.
Pre-Hogan WCW had some shit too (remember those skits where Sting and Davey Boy Smith were blown up in a boat by a midget?) but when the bell rang, it was the best thing going.

dirtyd · Jul 5, 2011

Upgrade Dave said:
They went from having hard hitting, great main events with Vader, Flair, Sting, Steamboat to Hogan squashing Flair and wrestling Brutus Beefcake at Starrcade. Shit was horrible.
Pre-Hogan WCW had some shit too (remember those skits where Sting and Davey Boy Smith were blown up in a boat by a midget?) but when the bell rang, it was the best thing going.

I remember that shit but as a kid i found it funny, and looking back at it it was good corny not like todays corny.

ALRIGHT ENOUGH ALREADY

Im starting to wish Rock never came back because while they are fueling a storyline, it's clear to me that it's not so much abut respecting the business more so than hating on a guy who got out of the business. Orton Punk & especially Cena come off like guys who hate the really hot girl, they want her but since they can't have her they say she's not that cute and she's probably a bitch. The Rock's success is that hot girl and they know they will never have it.

Upgrade Dave · Jul 5, 2011

dirtyd said:
I remember that shit but as a kid i found it funny, and looking back at it it was good corny not like todays corny.

Yes indeed.

ALRIGHT ENOUGH ALREADY

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Im starting to wish Rock never came back because while they are fueling a storyline, it's clear to me that it's not so much abut respecting the business more so than hating on a guy who got out of the business. Orton Punk & especially Cena come off like guys who hate the really hot girl, they want her but since they can't have her they say she's not that cute and she's probably a bitch. The Rock's success is that hot girl and they know they will never have it.

While I'm sure most of it is worked there is most likely a very real, I'll say "irritation" on how Rock just came back and walked into two WM paydays. But it's not Rock's fault and it doesn't have much to do with them. If they had the same writers behind them (Orton, Punk, Cena) that Rock, Foley, and Austion had behind them, they would be even bigger than they are. They need to take their frustration out on the guys writing and booking and most importantly Vince McMahon.

dirtyd · Jul 5, 2011

Upgrade Dave said:
While I'm sure most of it is worked there is most likely a very real, I'll say "irritation" on how Rock just came back and walked into two WM paydays. But it's not Rock's fault and it doesn't have much to do with them. If they had the same writers behind them (Orton, Punk, Cena) that Rock, Foley, and Austion had behind them, they would be even bigger than they are. They need to take their frustration out on the guys writing and booking and most importantly Vince McMahon.

I remember Hogan walking into summerslam with a 400k pay day against HBK, and yet you didn't hear people come out every night and trash the guy. It just seems like this new era of wrestlers are nothing more then a group of whiny bitches. I still say if given the opportunity they would do what rock did because it was smart business. Rock did everything there was to do and he left on a high (Hollywood Rock was greatness), but look at the ones who stayed too long (Hogan,Flair) flair is a legend but the lasting image of him is a 60+ man getting stripped down to his socks and taking bumps. Rock's going to live to be 90 years old probably while all these guys who "love the business" will crap out at 55 because they didn't know when to walk away.

Finally i will reinstate that it makes me sick to see Stone Cold heralded as this great legend when he walked out on the company while still employed, yet Rock is the villian because he refuses to show up every week even though he's retired.

ScottyPiffen745 · Jul 5, 2011

Upgrade Dave said:
Yes indeed.

While I'm sure most of it is worked there is most likely a very real, I'll say "irritation" on how Rock just came back and walked into two WM paydays. But it's not Rock's fault and it doesn't have much to do with them. If they had the same writers behind them (Orton, Punk, Cena) that Rock, Foley, and Austion had behind them, they would be even bigger than they are. They need to take their frustration out on the guys writing and booking and most importantly Vince McMahon.

Exactly. If the writing and booking was on point, they wouldn't have to go get Austin, Rocky and Trish to make WM interesting.

If anything, putting Rock in next year's main event a whole year in advance is Vince and his team pretty much admitting they don't want to risk putting anybody else in the main event with Cena and that he doesn't believe his writers could come up with anything interesting.

Them shitting on the Rock just looks pathetic. Orton and Cena know damn well if a studio came to them with a potential blockbuster hit, they'd hop their ass in one too. It sounds like they're really mad that they have no acting range.

Upgrade Dave · Jul 5, 2011

dirtyd said:
I remember Hogan walking into summerslam with a 400k pay day against HBK, and yet you didn't hear people come out every night and trash the guy. It just seems like this new era of wrestlers are nothing more then a group of whiny bitches. I still say if given the opportunity they would do what rock did because it was smart business. Rock did everything there was to do and he left on a high (Hollywood Rock was greatness), but look at the ones who stayed too long (Hogan,Flair) flair is a legend but the lasting image of him is a 60+ man getting stripped down to his socks and taking bumps. Rock's going to live to be 90 years old probably while all these guys who "love the business" will crap out at 55 because they didn't know when to walk away.

Finally i will reinstate that it makes me sick to see Stone Cold heralded as this great legend when he walked out on the company while still employed, yet Rock is the villian because he refuses to show up every week even though he's retired.

Staying too long is the norm, most top guys do it unless they get hurt or find other means of income.
Hulk got his comeuppance at SummerSlam where Michaels made a mockery of the match and there wasn't a year of building up to his one match like it is with Rock.
I think when other guys are putting over Cena at Rock's expense, they're doing the right thing, even if I would handle it differently. Cena has been the leader for a few years now, however anyone feels about it, and it has to bother some people to see them let Rock run all over him week after week with Cena getting very little of his heat back on Rock and then they have to lay down to a guy who was made to look like a punk, which makes them look bad. Again, that's not Rock's fault, it's management's and the way they booked that angle.

Upgrade Dave · Jul 5, 2011

BiggBawlzMcGee said:
Exactly. If the writing and booking was on point, they wouldn't have to go get Austin, Rocky and Trish to make WM interesting.

If anything, putting Rock in next year's main event a whole year in advance is Vince and his team pretty much admitting they don't want to risk putting anybody else in the main event with Cena and that he doesn't believe his writers could come up with anything interesting.

Them shitting on the Rock just looks pathetic. Orton and Cena know damn well if a studio came to them with a potential blockbuster hit, they'd hop their ass in one too. It sounds like they're really mad that they have no acting range.

We don't know if Punk has any talent because they've never put him in any movies.
Don't overstate Rock's "range", now.

dirtyd · Jul 5, 2011

Upgrade Dave said:
We don't know if Punk has any talent because they've never put him in any movies.
Don't overstate Rock's "range", now.

Rock tends to play the same character but it doesn't matter because he has so much charisma.

Upgrade Dave said:

Staying too long is the norm, most top guys do it unless they get hurt or find other means of income.
Hulk got his comeuppance at SummerSlam where Michaels made a mockery of the match and there wasn't a year of building up to his one match like it is with Rock.
I think when other guys are putting over Cena at Rock's expense, they're doing the right thing, even if I would handle it differently. Cena has been the leader for a few years now, however anyone feels about it, and it has to bother some people to see them let Rock run all over him week after week with Cena getting very little of his heat back on Rock and then they have to lay down to a guy who was made to look like a punk, which makes them look bad. Again, that's not Rock's fault, it's management's and the way they booked that angle.

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They can say cena is great all they want to but calling out Rock is stupid, rating have never been worse attendance is down and the titles have never meant less yet somehow it's Rock's fault for not being there. Cena is selling a lot of shirts but he's not selling the product, it also doesn't help when you proclaim him as big as Rock Austin & Hogan and he gets this kind of response on an iconic tv series

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theoriginalgreatone · Jul 5, 2011

I must say he is the BEST!!

ScottyPiffen745 · Jul 5, 2011

Upgrade Dave said:
We don't know if Punk has any talent because they've never put him in any movies.
Don't overstate Rock's "range", now.

Well compared to Cena and Orton, that muthafucka got some range :lol:

He got the fuck outta WWE Films where they basically have the wrestler play the same character they do on TV except in a movie. Like when they had Kane as a monster or Big Show as a big goofy kid.

I can't see Cena playing anything other than "the serious hero" or "the goofy hero", the two dudes he plays on Raw every week. And Orton, I don't know what the fuck Orton is. :lol:

A psycho?

dirtyd · Jul 5, 2011

BiggBawlzMcGee said:
Well compared to Cena and Orton, that muthafucka got some range He got the fuck outta WWE Films where they basically have the wrestler play the same character they do on TV except in a movie. Like when they had Kane as a monster or Big Show as a big goofy kid.

I can't see Cena playing anything other than "the serious hero" or "the goofy hero", the two dudes he plays on Raw every week. And Orton, I don't know what the fuck Orton is. A psycho?

I could see orton playing michael myers or freddy since he's good at ripping off other peoples characters

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