Mama's Gun
Voodoo
Things Fall Apart
Like Water for Chocolate
Electric Circus
1st Born Second
Yeah, you're thinking about them.
Yeah, because I'm thinking of Common, Mos Def and Talib producing
Just finished watching the ATCQ Documentary....
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Yeah, because I'm thinking of Common, Mos Def and Talib producing
Yeah, because I'm thinking of Common, Mos Def and Talib producing
You're losing me fam. The Ummah was Q-Tip, Jay-Dee, and Ali Shaheed Muhammed. No one else. Those other folks you named were members of the Soulquarians. I don't know what else to tell you.
where is the link?
Did you even try to google?
Did you see my Wiki shit I posted
The Ummah wasn't just those three.
You can be in more than one collective, just like Q-Tip was in the Native Tongues and Soulquarians.
Did you even try to google?
Did you see my Wiki shit I posted
The Ummah wasn't just those three.
You can be in more than one collective, just like Q-Tip was in the Native Tongues and Soulquarians.
No, I didn't google because I don't have to.
Edit: I googled just for you...
"The Ummah was a music production collective, composed of members Q-Tip and Ali Shaheed Muhammad of A Tribe Called Quest, and the late Jay Dee (now known as J Dilla) of the Detroit-based group Slum Village. Occasional members included Raphael Saadiq, and D'Angelo. In addition to producing nearly the entirety of A Tribe Called Quest's fourth and fifth album, the Ummah provided backing tracks for a notable array of hip hop and contemporary R&B artists, including Busta Rhymes, Whitney Houston, Keith Murray, the Brand New Heavies, Janet Jackson, and Jon B. The group was so named because two of its members (Tip and Ali) are devout Muslims. The word "ummah" is Arabic for "community", "nation", or "brotherhood"."
No, I didn't google because I don't have to.
Edit: I googled just for you...
"The Ummah was a music production collective, composed of members Q-Tip and Ali Shaheed Muhammad of A Tribe Called Quest, and the late Jay Dee (now known as J Dilla) of the Detroit-based group Slum Village. Occasional members included Raphael Saadiq, and D'Angelo. In addition to producing nearly the entirety of A Tribe Called Quest's fourth and fifth album, the Ummah provided backing tracks for a notable array of hip hop and contemporary R&B artists, including Busta Rhymes, Whitney Houston, Keith Murray, the Brand New Heavies, Janet Jackson, and Jon B. The group was so named because two of its members (Tip and Ali) are devout Muslims. The word "ummah" is Arabic for "community", "nation", or "brotherhood"."
You're acting like Blunt now. Come on fam
wrong!!! Tip was at pete rocks house when pete rock was making the same beat q-tip went on to make which was "we got the jazz" i aint gonna front thats fucked up. But hearing a person make a beat, and then you running home and making the same one is different than straight up jacking.
You're acting like Blunt now. Come on fam
Really? I purposely left that part in there. This is revisionist history that I don't have to rely on because I'm an actual fan who bought the album when it was released, read the album credits, and listened religously.
Raphael Saddiq may have played bass on a couple of songs and where on Beats, Rhymes, and Life or The Love Movement is D'angelo credited?
Because wikipedia now lists them as "occasional" members does not actually make them members. That part was probably written by a 'johnny come lately' fan, such as yourself, who wasn't a fan when the music was actually out, but thinks that you're an expert now thanks to the internet.
The Ummah did consist of Dilla, Tip and Ali mainly. But, in reality, Dilla was really doing everything from the music side of it all. And if you need proof, just listen to joints that Ali did for himself on his solo project and the stuff Tip did by himself. The vibe is different. As far as the documentary, I can't wait to sit down and be able to watch it. Haven't had time so far but, Tribe is one of my favorite hip-hop groups of all time. Probably number 2 behind the original Slum Village
Really? I purposely left that part in there. This is revisionist history that I don't have to rely on because I'm an actual fan who bought the album when it was released, read the album credits, and listened religously.
Raphael Saddiq may have played bass on a couple of songs and where on Beats, Rhymes, and Life or The Love Movement is D'angelo credited?
Because wikipedia now lists them as "occasional" members does not actually make them members.
Yeah, because you're the only ones who's done that
You can word it however you want it to help you sleep.
The Ummah did consist of Dilla, Tip and Ali mainly. But, in reality, Dilla was really doing everything from the music side of it all. And if you need proof, just listen to joints that Ali did for himself on his solo project and the stuff Tip did by himself. The vibe is different. As far as the documentary, I can't wait to sit down and be able to watch it. Haven't had time so far but, Tribe is one of my favorite hip-hop groups of all time. Probably number 2 behind the original Slum Village
I don't doubt what you said at all. However, Complex is trying to include members that it's common knowledge had nothing to do with Tribe's last two albums.
The Ummah did consist of Dilla, Tip and Ali mainly. But, in reality, Dilla was really doing everything from the music side of it all. And if you need proof, just listen to joints that Ali did for himself on his solo project and the stuff Tip did by himself. The vibe is different. As far as the documentary, I can't wait to sit down and be able to watch it. Haven't had time so far but, Tribe is one of my favorite hip-hop groups of all time. Probably number 2 behind the original Slum Village
Never said they weren't the main ones, but others were involved in the process and were in and out of the collective
That's how they later went on to do the Soulquarian thing after Tribe broke up.
Yeah, because you're the only ones who's done that
You can word it however you want it to help you sleep.
No, I'm gonna speak the truth. Back up your statements or graciously back the fuck out of the thread, because that's the only real option you have homeboy.
No, I'm gonna speak the truth. Back up your statements or graciously back the fuck out of the thread, because that's the only real option you have homeboy.
You posted a wiki article that supported my claim and you claimed it's lying, because you don't want to believe it.
Wrong again. D'angelo had NOTHING to do with any ATCQ album and I'm searching to check on whether Saddiq played on either album.
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Tribe's sound was all Tip. Read the thread. The first 3 albums were done by Tip with exception on "Jazz" by Pete Rock on Low End and Keep It Rollin by Large Professor on Midnight...
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Yeah, because if it says The Ummah it has to say his name also
You're a stubborn fellow. I'll respect your unwillingness to give up and let you bow out without further playing yourself.
Well, Saadiq and D'Angelo didn't have anything to do with Tribes last couple of albums. The Soulquarians were more involved with D'Angelo's Voodoo Album, Common's Like Water For Chocolate and Electric Circus album. And just for the record so people don't think I'm pulling stuff out of my ass, I work and tour wit Saadiq and there have been plenty of conversations about all of this while just chilling and not working
Thank you.
Very underrated
He most definitely is.
The Ummah did consist of Dilla, Tip and Ali mainly. But, in reality, Dilla was really doing everything from the music side of it all. And if you need proof, just listen to joints that Ali did for himself on his solo project and the stuff Tip did by himself. The vibe is different. As far as the documentary, I can't wait to sit down and be able to watch it. Haven't had time so far but, Tribe is one of my favorite hip-hop groups of all time. Probably number 2 behind the original Slum Village
Very true statement...
TIP basically let J-Dilla do everything for a minute...
TIP would just let Dilla use any BREAK he had...
Unfortunately, TIP's Jersey Crib BURNT down... All because he wouldn't USE surge protectors... It's FUCKED UP because his Studio was LACED at the time... This is back when he was BANGING OUT Angie Martinez... Here's a remix Dilla did for D'Angelo... This is a beat he played for Extra P and myself when we first met Dilla... R.I.P. to the Homie... Dude was the TRUTH... This is when the Ummah was Dilla, Tip, Ali... with contributions from a dude named Algee Rashad AKA DJ Algebra... He's the one who did "Whoa Yahh" for Busta
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My point is...Dilla had a huge influence on Tribes sound. Tip is on record with that.
Like Water for Chocolate and Electric Circus were Dilla albums. He structured the sound of those albums.
The soulquarians were involved in it though. Dilla was the heartbeat of it all but, Questlove, James Poyser along with a few others were heavily involved as well on those albums
They were but Dilla was the lead. It was his sound and direction. They followed his lead.
It's funny listening to Jarobi speak I don't think I've ever heard him speak and he doesn't sound like I imagined.
Since this is a porn board, Angie Martinez and Moni Love have aged well
What happen to me is what happens with people, they grew apart. Phife is the polar opposite of Q-Tip. Probably why I always favored Phife in the group.
Q-Tip is hyper sensitive about his portrayal on camera.
I'm still not believing Afrika is a batty bwoy
I don't think I've ever heard him speak and he doesn't sound like I imagined.Since this is a porn board, Angie Martinez and Moni Love have aged well
What happen to me is what happens with people, they grew apart. Phife is the polar opposite of Q-Tip. Probably why I always favored Phife in the group.
Q-Tip is hyper sensitive about his portrayal on camera.
I'm still not believing Afrika is a batty bwoy
Pete DID do "the Jazz" beat... TIP had that record and re-created it... The truth is... Pete... TIP... Large Professor... JUJU from the Beatnuts... Mr. Walt from BeatMinerz... Diamond D... all these dudes FUCKED with each other during a certain period time... They ALL went Record Shoppiing together and Shit like that...
TIP, PETE and LARGE were VERY TIGHT... but... They all did their OWN beats... In fact, Large helped TIP put together his FIRST pre-production set up... but TIP put together damn near all those albums...
Phife's BIGGEST mistake was moving to ATLANTA when he did... He went down there chasing tail... He needed to stay as close to his business as possible... Instead, he made the 'GREAT' exodus to the ATL... and that was the start of the ending...
TRUTH
DAMN JuJu is SOOOOOOO slept on fam
that's what dude just said bruh
