Yeah, this is turning out to be business as fucking usual.
They're just waiting for the right moment to drop this case...
Cops shoot and kill black man Alton Sterling at point blank range in Baton Rouge
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They're just waiting for the right moment to drop this case...
http://m.ksla.com/ksla/db_350562/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=OudRGhXK
Now this is about 4 hours away from Baton Rouge.....but this lets me know that they are preparing for the backlash......
Now this is about 4 hours away from Baton Rouge.....but this lets me know that they are preparing for the backlash......
I keep hoping for better updates, or ANY updates.
This shit gets to me sometimes man, so hopeless. But I know I can't stay in that place.
But I get there.
I'm looking man. Can't find anything really.
These motherfuckers here...
Please stall us out with the riddles, if you know something or have something to contribute just post it
‘Bad police work’ in Alton Sterling death, but don’t expect conviction
The cellphone videos of the July 5 confrontation that left Alton Sterling dead in the Triple S Food Mart parking lot are graphic, showing a Baton Rouge policeman kneeling on top of him open fire from point-blank range.
The clips, caught on two different phones by witnesses to Sterling's death and which run 48 and 35 seconds long, sparked several nights of protests in Baton Rouge and across the country, prompting a federal investigation into the shooting and placing the Baton Rouge Police Department under international scrutiny.
Five policing experts who reviewed the videos for The Advocate said the videos raised serious questions about the shooting, but most said it appeared unlikely that there's enough evidence to successfully bring a criminal case against Baton Rouge police officer Blane Salamoni, identified by a source as the policeman who fired the shots.
Four of the five experts expressed concerns about the apparent aggressiveness of the officers in dealing with Sterling, a CD peddler outside the shop who police were informed was armed, with the fifth stressing that not enough has been publicly released to draw any conclusions. Several also questioned why officers fired stun guns and tackled Sterling, moves that potentially put the policemen in far greater danger and left them with no ability to safely retreat.
But all said that without viewing the large amount of as-yet unreleased evidence — including 911 tapes, witness statements and several additional videos — it's impossible to draw definitive conclusions on the killing.
"There's no way to tell yet. There's so much we don't have yet," said Ronal Serpas, a Loyola University professor and former New Orleans Police Department superintendent. "We don't know what other angles are out there, what happened when they first approached him, what were the first words that were said, what were the first actions that were taken."
Federal officials last week refused to comment on the status of their criminal civil rights investigation or when the results of the probe that they began just days after the incident might be released. Although the August floods that ravaged the region displaced tens of thousands and focused both public attention and law enforcement resources on a new set of challenges in the Baton Rouge area, U.S. Attorney Walt Green said the floods didn't affect federal cases in the region "across the board."
When federal and state prosecutors begin to weigh the results of the FBI's investigation and decide whether to pursue criminal charges against the officers — Salamoni and Howie Lake II, who also wrestled with Sterling but isn't believed to have fired his weapon during the encounter — they'll consider a fairly narrow question, several experts said. That question would be: Did Salamoni reasonably fear for his life in the final seconds of Sterling's life?
"The question of a justified shooting comes down to that final moment," said Dennis Kenney, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York and a former police officer. "The benefit of the doubt in these kinds of cases generally goes to the police, and I think they'll have a very difficult time getting a conviction."
Philip Stinson, a former Ohio policeman and current professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University, said the legal evaluation of whether Salamoni was justified in the killing largely hinges on the movements of Sterling's right hand, obscured from view in both publicly released videos.
"If he was going for his gun, then it was a justified shooting," said Stinson, who nonetheless called the incident the result of "incredibly bad" police work. "It still raises questions as to whether it was appropriate for the officers to get themselves in that situation."
Even if another video angle appears to contradict police claims, Stinson said, it remains unlikely Salamoni or Lake would face prison time without clear-cut evidence against them.
"I don't believe the officers are going to be charged in this case because they got a call about a man with a gun, he had a gun and (the officers) used Tasers," Stinson said. "Even if there were charges to be brought, in my experience, juries are very reluctant to second-guess a police officer who's making a split-second life or death decision, especially in a street encounter with a gun."
This is a long-form story by Bryn Stole. For the rest of the story, visit The Advocate’swebsite.
http://www.sunherald.com/news/local/article102700847.html
The cellphone videos of the July 5 confrontation that left Alton Sterling dead in the Triple S Food Mart parking lot are graphic, showing a Baton Rouge policeman kneeling on top of him open fire from point-blank range.
The clips, caught on two different phones by witnesses to Sterling's death and which run 48 and 35 seconds long, sparked several nights of protests in Baton Rouge and across the country, prompting a federal investigation into the shooting and placing the Baton Rouge Police Department under international scrutiny.
Five policing experts who reviewed the videos for The Advocate said the videos raised serious questions about the shooting, but most said it appeared unlikely that there's enough evidence to successfully bring a criminal case against Baton Rouge police officer Blane Salamoni, identified by a source as the policeman who fired the shots.
Four of the five experts expressed concerns about the apparent aggressiveness of the officers in dealing with Sterling, a CD peddler outside the shop who police were informed was armed, with the fifth stressing that not enough has been publicly released to draw any conclusions. Several also questioned why officers fired stun guns and tackled Sterling, moves that potentially put the policemen in far greater danger and left them with no ability to safely retreat.
But all said that without viewing the large amount of as-yet unreleased evidence — including 911 tapes, witness statements and several additional videos — it's impossible to draw definitive conclusions on the killing.
"There's no way to tell yet. There's so much we don't have yet," said Ronal Serpas, a Loyola University professor and former New Orleans Police Department superintendent. "We don't know what other angles are out there, what happened when they first approached him, what were the first words that were said, what were the first actions that were taken."
Federal officials last week refused to comment on the status of their criminal civil rights investigation or when the results of the probe that they began just days after the incident might be released. Although the August floods that ravaged the region displaced tens of thousands and focused both public attention and law enforcement resources on a new set of challenges in the Baton Rouge area, U.S. Attorney Walt Green said the floods didn't affect federal cases in the region "across the board."
When federal and state prosecutors begin to weigh the results of the FBI's investigation and decide whether to pursue criminal charges against the officers — Salamoni and Howie Lake II, who also wrestled with Sterling but isn't believed to have fired his weapon during the encounter — they'll consider a fairly narrow question, several experts said. That question would be: Did Salamoni reasonably fear for his life in the final seconds of Sterling's life?
"The question of a justified shooting comes down to that final moment," said Dennis Kenney, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York and a former police officer. "The benefit of the doubt in these kinds of cases generally goes to the police, and I think they'll have a very difficult time getting a conviction."
Philip Stinson, a former Ohio policeman and current professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University, said the legal evaluation of whether Salamoni was justified in the killing largely hinges on the movements of Sterling's right hand, obscured from view in both publicly released videos.
"If he was going for his gun, then it was a justified shooting," said Stinson, who nonetheless called the incident the result of "incredibly bad" police work. "It still raises questions as to whether it was appropriate for the officers to get themselves in that situation."
Even if another video angle appears to contradict police claims, Stinson said, it remains unlikely Salamoni or Lake would face prison time without clear-cut evidence against them.
"I don't believe the officers are going to be charged in this case because they got a call about a man with a gun, he had a gun and (the officers) used Tasers," Stinson said. "Even if there were charges to be brought, in my experience, juries are very reluctant to second-guess a police officer who's making a split-second life or death decision, especially in a street encounter with a gun."
This is a long-form story by Bryn Stole. For the rest of the story, visit The Advocate’swebsite.
http://www.sunherald.com/news/local/article102700847.html
Moral of the story
if you have a gun
it does matter if you shoot at cops or not
you will end up dead
so therefore..............
Coming up on October. Damn near 3 fucking months and nothing. Meanwhile, the cop in the recent case was charged within a week. It simply doesn't take months to investigate this shit.
This is clearly just an attempt to blow smoke.
This is clearly just an attempt to blow smoke.
Coming up on October. Damn near 3 fucking months and nothing. Meanwhile, the cop in the recent case was charged within a week. It simply doesn't take months to investigate this shit.
This is clearly just an attempt to blow smoke.
Yes, once the coast is clear man. That's all it is. Once the coast is clear and they think it's died down they'll sneak that nothing will be done.
Damn..They better have 100,000 page report with all this time they supposedly 'investigating.'
This shit is so flagrantly ridiculous man. Idk how his fam isn't setting shit on fire, real talk.Damn..They better have 100,000 page report with all this time they supposedly 'investigating.'
Damn..They better have 100,000 page report with all this time they supposedly 'investigating.'
The liberals are the ones who create the passive conditions for this to happen.
They exist to diffuse black rage so that they could ignore the obvious
1 coin
two sides
I agree. But as a collective, we seem easily fooled and appeased. Look at all the support Hillary got against Sanders after what the Clintons have done to the community. It's that one side of the coin is so bad that the other side of the coin can get away with their trickery without much of a fight.
We have to take over locally politically. We MUST stop giving our votes away to people who only care about the power our votes give to them.
Tis is fucking sad. We know it doesn't take this long to investigate a situation that didn't last that long.
Just waiting. 2 more black people murdered then they'll announce it and wrap everything up neatly.
Such fucking incompetence OR by design. Either way, this can't be excused.
http://www.wafb.com/story/33365423/...stigation-ongoing-no-timetable-for-completion
BATON ROUGE, LA (WAFB) -
The US Attorney’s Office for the Middle District of Louisiana announced Tuesday the shooting death of Alton Sterling continues to be investigated with no estimated time for completion.
US Attorney Walt Green said his office is “diligently and thoroughly” investigating the July 5 shooting.
Green stated his office is working closely with the US Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division and the FBI. He added they continue to make the investigation a “top priority.”
“The investigation remains ongoing, and will conclude only when we have gathered, reviewed and evaluated all available evidence,” Green said in a written release. “There is no timetable for when this will be finished.”
According to Green, the three parties involved in the investigation are committed to taking the steps needed to “reach a just result based solely on the facts and law.”
http://www.wafb.com/story/33365423/...stigation-ongoing-no-timetable-for-completion
BATON ROUGE, LA (WAFB) -
The US Attorney’s Office for the Middle District of Louisiana announced Tuesday the shooting death of Alton Sterling continues to be investigated with no estimated time for completion.
US Attorney Walt Green said his office is “diligently and thoroughly” investigating the July 5 shooting.
Green stated his office is working closely with the US Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division and the FBI. He added they continue to make the investigation a “top priority.”
“The investigation remains ongoing, and will conclude only when we have gathered, reviewed and evaluated all available evidence,” Green said in a written release. “There is no timetable for when this will be finished.”
According to Green, the three parties involved in the investigation are committed to taking the steps needed to “reach a just result based solely on the facts and law.”
Such fucking incompetence OR by design. Either way, this can't be excused.
http://www.wafb.com/story/33365423/...stigation-ongoing-no-timetable-for-completion
BATON ROUGE, LA (WAFB) -
The US Attorney’s Office for the Middle District of Louisiana announced Tuesday the shooting death of Alton Sterling continues to be investigated with no estimated time for completion.
US Attorney Walt Green said his office is “diligently and thoroughly” investigating the July 5 shooting.
Green stated his office is working closely with the US Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division and the FBI. He added they continue to make the investigation a “top priority.”
“The investigation remains ongoing, and will conclude only when we have gathered, reviewed and evaluated all available evidence,” Green said in a written release. “There is no timetable for when this will be finished.”
According to Green, the three parties involved in the investigation are committed to taking the steps needed to “reach a just result based solely on the facts and law.”
That means they have the gas station surveillance tapes and he was never "pointing a gun" as that 911 call suggested.
Such fucking incompetence OR by design. Either way, this can't be excused.
http://www.wafb.com/story/33365423/...stigation-ongoing-no-timetable-for-completion
BATON ROUGE, LA (WAFB) -
The US Attorney’s Office for the Middle District of Louisiana announced Tuesday the shooting death of Alton Sterling continues to be investigated with no estimated time for completion.
US Attorney Walt Green said his office is “diligently and thoroughly” investigating the July 5 shooting.
Green stated his office is working closely with the US Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division and the FBI. He added they continue to make the investigation a “top priority.”
“The investigation remains ongoing, and will conclude only when we have gathered, reviewed and evaluated all available evidence,” Green said in a written release. “There is no timetable for when this will be finished.”
According to Green, the three parties involved in the investigation are committed to taking the steps needed to “reach a just result based solely on the facts and law.”
wtf
They'll announce their fuckery right near the election to minimize coverage.
Had they done a dog like that it wouldn't take this long
Yeah, this is shameful. And this is supposedly the fucking justice department doing this. I bet any private investigators could have done this investigation many times over if they had been given the evidence and witnesses to review.
It's about time other entities are allowed to review fucking evidence in officer involved shootings since government is proving too fucking incompetent to do so.
Still no news on this case. Justice department is still investigating the Garner case from 2014, so there's our timetable. I see they getting the money straight though. Don't fuck with the money, but justice can wait.
Baton Rouge police, sheriff overtime reached $1.6 million after Alton Sterling, police shootings
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/10/alton_sterling_police_overtime.html
Baton Rouge police and the sheriff's office spent a total $1.6 million on overtime pay in July responding to protests that followed the fatal shooting of Alton Sterling by a police officer and a subsequent attack on law enforcement in which three officers were killed.
The federal government is picking up more than half of the bill.
Most of the money was spent by the police department, which shelled out $1.5 million in overtime pay in July. The sheriff's office spent close to $102,000 on overtime, according to a report from the Louisiana legislative fiscal office.
In total, Baton Rouge police officers worked about 37,000 hours of overtime in the aftermath of the Sterling shooting and the attack on police. The sheriff's office worked about 2,600 hours of overtime, according to the report from the state agency.
The total amount law enforcement agencies spent on overtime in July is probably actually higher than $1.6 million. That figure does not include how much other agencies -- like the Baton Rouge fire department -- spent on overtime. It also doesn't factor in overtime by Louisiana State Police, who were very involved in responding to the protests and attack.
Baton Rouge police, sheriff overtime reached $1.6 million after Alton Sterling, police shootings
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/10/alton_sterling_police_overtime.html
Baton Rouge police and the sheriff's office spent a total $1.6 million on overtime pay in July responding to protests that followed the fatal shooting of Alton Sterling by a police officer and a subsequent attack on law enforcement in which three officers were killed.
The federal government is picking up more than half of the bill.
Most of the money was spent by the police department, which shelled out $1.5 million in overtime pay in July. The sheriff's office spent close to $102,000 on overtime, according to a report from the Louisiana legislative fiscal office.
In total, Baton Rouge police officers worked about 37,000 hours of overtime in the aftermath of the Sterling shooting and the attack on police. The sheriff's office worked about 2,600 hours of overtime, according to the report from the state agency.
The total amount law enforcement agencies spent on overtime in July is probably actually higher than $1.6 million. That figure does not include how much other agencies -- like the Baton Rouge fire department -- spent on overtime. It also doesn't factor in overtime by Louisiana State Police, who were very involved in responding to the protests and attack.
Wow. When yur partner kills an unarmed person, then you get to put in that jacuzzi you've been promising your wife because of all the extra ot money. I bet not a single bit of that overtime money went to extensive training sessions on how to properly deal with the public.Still no news on this case. Justice department is still investigating the Garner case from 2014, so there's our timetable. I see they getting the money straight though. Don't fuck with the money, but justice can wait.
Baton Rouge police, sheriff overtime reached $1.6 million after Alton Sterling, police shootings
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/10/alton_sterling_police_overtime.html
Baton Rouge police and the sheriff's office spent a total $1.6 million on overtime pay in July responding to protests that followed the fatal shooting of Alton Sterling by a police officer and a subsequent attack on law enforcement in which three officers were killed.
The federal government is picking up more than half of the bill.
Most of the money was spent by the police department, which shelled out $1.5 million in overtime pay in July. The sheriff's office spent close to $102,000 on overtime, according to a report from the Louisiana legislative fiscal office.
In total, Baton Rouge police officers worked about 37,000 hours of overtime in the aftermath of the Sterling shooting and the attack on police. The sheriff's office worked about 2,600 hours of overtime, according to the report from the state agency.
The total amount law enforcement agencies spent on overtime in July is probably actually higher than $1.6 million. That figure does not include how much other agencies -- like the Baton Rouge fire department -- spent on overtime. It also doesn't factor in overtime by Louisiana State Police, who were very involved in responding to the protests and attack.
A protestor in North Dakota supposedly fired on police and was swiftly charged. Why didn't they take months and months to investigate? It's amazing how fast they can move when they want to. Double standard fuckery.
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/north-dakota-pipeline-protester-charged-with-attempted-murder/
A demonstrator protesting last week at the construction site of an oil pipeline in North Dakota was charged on Monday with the attempted murder of a law enforcement officer, according to court documents.
Red Fawn Fallis, 37, was confronted by two officers on the evening of Oct. 27, according to an affidavit, when she was taking part in a demonstration against the $3.8 billion Dakota Access pipeline project.
The affidavit said law enforcement was working to clear protesters from a camp on private property and attempted to arrest Fallis for being “an instigator and acting disorderly,” when a struggle occurred with the officers.
It added that during the struggle, Fallis fired at a police officer three times with a handgun, without hitting him.
After being subdued and arrested, a small amount of marijuana was found in Fallis’ possession, according to court documents. She is facing additional charges including engaging in a riot, possession of marijuana and preventing arrest.
The attempted murder charge carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison.
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/north-dakota-pipeline-protester-charged-with-attempted-murder/
A demonstrator protesting last week at the construction site of an oil pipeline in North Dakota was charged on Monday with the attempted murder of a law enforcement officer, according to court documents.
Red Fawn Fallis, 37, was confronted by two officers on the evening of Oct. 27, according to an affidavit, when she was taking part in a demonstration against the $3.8 billion Dakota Access pipeline project.
The affidavit said law enforcement was working to clear protesters from a camp on private property and attempted to arrest Fallis for being “an instigator and acting disorderly,” when a struggle occurred with the officers.
It added that during the struggle, Fallis fired at a police officer three times with a handgun, without hitting him.
After being subdued and arrested, a small amount of marijuana was found in Fallis’ possession, according to court documents. She is facing additional charges including engaging in a riot, possession of marijuana and preventing arrest.
The attempted murder charge carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison.
No update from the 'justice' department, but there is this on his son.
http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...cle_06358266-a869-11e6-9656-5ba32873cb31.html
Cameron Sterling, Dechia Gerald and Warrick Dunn, three people united by tragedy, a hometown and the New Orleans Saints.
The trio met with Sean Payton and players at the Saints facility, which was documented and will be aired as a special on the NFL Network Sunday.
"People can unite and put their differences aside," said Dunn, a Baton Rouge native who played football for Catholic High before starring at Florida State. "We do it all the time on the football field."
Sterling, whose father Alton Sterling was killed during a struggle with Baton Rouge police in July, joined Gerald, whose husband Matthew Gerald was killed during an attack on law enforcement officers weeks later.
Dunn's mother, Betty Smothers, was also a Baton Rouge police officer, and was killed while on duty in 1993.
"I understand the issues of being a young black man in the community," Dunn said, "but I also know there's a lot of great police officers."
In the video above, posted to the Saints' twitter account, Payton speaks to the trio, telling them all they have in common. He mistakenly refers to all three as Saints fans, before jokingly pointing out that Dunn, who split 11 years in the NFL between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Atlanta Falcons, doesn't fall into that category.
http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...cle_06358266-a869-11e6-9656-5ba32873cb31.html
Cameron Sterling, Dechia Gerald and Warrick Dunn, three people united by tragedy, a hometown and the New Orleans Saints.
The trio met with Sean Payton and players at the Saints facility, which was documented and will be aired as a special on the NFL Network Sunday.
"People can unite and put their differences aside," said Dunn, a Baton Rouge native who played football for Catholic High before starring at Florida State. "We do it all the time on the football field."
Sterling, whose father Alton Sterling was killed during a struggle with Baton Rouge police in July, joined Gerald, whose husband Matthew Gerald was killed during an attack on law enforcement officers weeks later.
Dunn's mother, Betty Smothers, was also a Baton Rouge police officer, and was killed while on duty in 1993.
"I understand the issues of being a young black man in the community," Dunn said, "but I also know there's a lot of great police officers."
In the video above, posted to the Saints' twitter account, Payton speaks to the trio, telling them all they have in common. He mistakenly refers to all three as Saints fans, before jokingly pointing out that Dunn, who split 11 years in the NFL between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Atlanta Falcons, doesn't fall into that category.
Baton Rouge law enforcement discussing how to respond to possible protests after Justice Department finishes Alton Sterling investigation
http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...cle_dae12faa-b012-11e6-bfcf-ef9427bdf9e6.html
http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...cle_dae12faa-b012-11e6-bfcf-ef9427bdf9e6.html
Still no damn updates on this case. I know the game, but still I can't believe the blatant fuckery. The guy in the Will Smith case is already at trial.
It's crazy. The cat who shot Will Smith just a couple months before this already had a trial, and there is no information released on this case yet? They just buried this case.
January 13 and still nothing from the fucking justice department.
What's your angle? The DOJ will release a "scathing" review, and nothing will be done. How many police reviews have led to reform?January 13 and still nothing from the fucking justice department.
March 25th
Wow
Wow
They're scared bro. A cop got killed here last week.
4 cops killed in BR in 8 months.