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Re: Governator says NO CLEMENCY for Tookie!
well, no one's really suprised at this decision. are they? mr. williams should just be greatful that he was allowed to live as long as he did. he did'nt really think writing some children's books was going to erase what he did, did he? hey i don't support the death penalty, but i know how these people are. rest in peace....my brother.
well, no one's really suprised at this decision. are they? mr. williams should just be greatful that he was allowed to live as long as he did. he did'nt really think writing some children's books was going to erase what he did, did he? hey i don't support the death penalty, but i know how these people are. rest in peace....my brother.
Re: Should Schwarzenegger Grant Tookie Clemency???
Governer Aschwartzeneger has already made his decision. No clemency will be given. Stanley Tookie Williams will be put to death as scheduled on December 13, 2005 at 12:00 AM PST You can read about it here.
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/us/death_penalty
Governer Aschwartzeneger has already made his decision. No clemency will be given. Stanley Tookie Williams will be put to death as scheduled on December 13, 2005 at 12:00 AM PST You can read about it here.
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/us/death_penalty
Mods merge the tookie threads
every other freaking thread on this front page is a tookie thread i don't mind debating on if cuz should bite it, but do we really need 30 people telling us that he didn't get CLEMENCY?
every other freaking thread on this front page is a tookie thread i don't mind debating on if cuz should bite it, but do we really need 30 people telling us that he didn't get CLEMENCY?
Re: Governator says NO CLEMENCY for Tookie!
Was thinking the same thing
Was thinking the same thing
Re: The Tookie Thing Got Me Thinking......
It got me thinking too...thinking you should use the fucking search button and post in one of the other 30 tookie posts...or just look at the fucking front page...
buffdaddy said:
It got me thinking too...thinking you should use the fucking search button and post in one of the other 30 tookie posts...or just look at the fucking front page...
Re: Tookie will die!
...and under the circumstances that would've been the best possible legacy (for the children)Ming Fei Hong said:
I'm thinking with all that grub on his stomach,just as the lights finally go out for Tooks....and he loses all control of bodily functions aint nobody gonna forget the farts and the package he leaves behind for somebody to clean up. 
Re: Tookies last meal request "Menu"
"They have," he said of prison officials, his voice rising, "the audacity to ask, 'Do I want a last meal?' Absolutely not. 'Do I want anyone present?' Absolutely not. 'Do I want a preacher?' Absolutely not. I want nothing from this institution."
http://www.gadsdentimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051202/ZNYT02/512020353/1011
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/02/national/02prison.html
"They have," he said of prison officials, his voice rising, "the audacity to ask, 'Do I want a last meal?' Absolutely not. 'Do I want anyone present?' Absolutely not. 'Do I want a preacher?' Absolutely not. I want nothing from this institution."
http://www.gadsdentimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051202/ZNYT02/512020353/1011
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/02/national/02prison.html
Please link a source to this "menu"RAULDK said:
Re: Tookie will die!
I am the one that usually comes in as the DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, but....with the record of corruption in L.A. and the fact that there was no evidence of Mr. Williams being at the crime scene, I just could not be a hardliner on the death penalty. It is not like they were going to let him go, his sentence was just going to be commuted.
You know the story that just broke a few weeks ago about the guy from Texas that was executed and was innocent but was convicted because of the detectives feeling and subsequent actions to get a conviction. A guy was recently found to be innocent in Georgia after serving 24 yrs. on a rape conviction that DNA recently proved that he did not do. A dude that he knew, who was a head shorter, committed that rape and 8 more. This guy was convicted because of a detectives 'feeling' and his convincing the witnesses that he was the man. A serial rapist went free because of a feeling.
No, I don't think every man that claims innocense is, but our justice system is f**ked up. It is especially swayed against US. As Richard Pryor said, "Not justice, just us."
Da Nigga said:My point exactly...
How many of You Brutha's know some one who's on Death Row?, I happen to know two, And I'm sad to say them Nigga's did it... Where will that Media Whore Jessie Jackson Be when there time comes up?...
I can't even say if I support the death penalty or not, I know there is a book that say's "Thou Shalt Not Kill", but it also say's in there some where, "And Eye For An Eye"
Over all I think it's sad...
I am the one that usually comes in as the DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, but....with the record of corruption in L.A. and the fact that there was no evidence of Mr. Williams being at the crime scene, I just could not be a hardliner on the death penalty. It is not like they were going to let him go, his sentence was just going to be commuted.
You know the story that just broke a few weeks ago about the guy from Texas that was executed and was innocent but was convicted because of the detectives feeling and subsequent actions to get a conviction. A guy was recently found to be innocent in Georgia after serving 24 yrs. on a rape conviction that DNA recently proved that he did not do. A dude that he knew, who was a head shorter, committed that rape and 8 more. This guy was convicted because of a detectives 'feeling' and his convincing the witnesses that he was the man. A serial rapist went free because of a feeling.
No, I don't think every man that claims innocense is, but our justice system is f**ked up. It is especially swayed against US. As Richard Pryor said, "Not justice, just us."
Re: To Rehabilitate a Man, Sentence Him to Death
<font size="5"><center>Schwarzenegger Denies Clemency for Williams</font size></center>
ThisJanuary 1996 photo made available by the
California Department of Corrections shows the
entrance to the execution chamber and the lethal
injection table at California's San Quentin State
Prison in San Quentin, Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwar-
zenegger on Monday, Dec. 12, 2005 refused to
spare the life of Stanley Tookie Williams, the founder
of the murderous Crips gang who awaited execution
after midnight, Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2005, in a case
that set off a debate over the possibility of redemption
on death row. Schwarzenegger said he was unconvinced
that Williams had had a change of heart, and he was
unswayed by pleas from Hollywood stars and capital
punishment foes who said the inmate had made amends
by writing children's books about the dangers of gangs.
(AP Photo/California Department of Corrections)
Dec 12, 6:49 PM (ET)
Associated Press
By DAVID KRAVETS
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger refused to block the execution early Tuesday of Stanley Tookie Williams, rejecting the notion that the founder of the murderous Crips gang had atoned for his crimes and found redemption on death row.
With a federal court refusing to grant a reprieve, Williams, 51, was set to die by injection at San Quentin Prison just after midnight for murdering four people during two 1979 holdups.
Williams' case became one of the nation's biggest death-row cause celebres in decades. It set off a nationwide debate over the possibility of redemption on death row, with Hollywood stars and capital punishment foes arguing that Williams had made amends by writing children's books about the dangers of gangs.
But Schwarzenegger suggested that Williams' supposed change of heart was not genuine, noting that the inmate had not owned up to his crimes or shown any real remorse for the countless killings committed by the Crips.
"Is Williams' redemption complete and sincere, or is it just a hollow promise?" Schwarzenegger wrote less than 12 hours before the execution. "Without an apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings, there can be no redemption."
Williams' supporters were disappointed with the governor's refusal to commute the death sentence to life in prison without parole.
"Too often I hear the governor and many who are around him talk about his values system," said NAACP President Bruce S. Gordon. "In this particular case, those values seem to be cast aside. There is absolutely no recognition given to redemption."
Williams stood to become the 12th person executed in California since lawmakers reinstated the death penalty in 1977.
He was condemned in 1981 for gunning down convenience store clerk Albert Owens, 26, at a 7-Eleven in Whittier and killing Yen-I Yang, 76, Tsai-Shai Chen Yang, 63, and the couple's daughter Yu-Chin Yang Lin, 43, at the Los Angeles motel they owned. Williams claimed he was innocent.
Just before the governor announced his decision, the 9th U.S. Circuit of Appeals denied Williams' request for a reprieve, saying there was no "clear and convincing evidence of actual innocence." His lawyers planned to take their case to the U.S. Supreme Court.
The last California governor to grant clemency was Ronald Reagan, who spared a mentally infirm killer in 1967. Schwarzenegger - a Republican who has come under fire from members of his own party as too accommodating to liberals - rejected clemency twice before during his two years in office.
In denying clemency to Williams, Schwarzenegger said that the evidence of his guilt was "strong and compelling," and he dismissed suggestions that the trial was unfair.
Schwarzenegger also pointed out the brutality of the crimes, noting that Williams allegedly said about one of the killings, "You should have heard the way he sounded when I shot him." According to the governor's account, Williams then made a growling noise and laughed for five to six minutes.
In addition, the governor noted that Williams dedicated his 1998 book "Life in Prison" to a list of figures that included the black militant George Jackson - "a significant indicator that Williams is not reformed and that he still sees violence and lawlessness as a legitimate means to address societal problems."
Schwarzenegger also noted that there is "little mention or atonement in his writings and his plea for clemency of the countless murders committed by the Crips following the lifestyle Williams once espoused. The senseless killing that has ruined many families, particularly in African-American communities, in the name of the Crips and gang warfare is a tragedy of our modern culture."
Williams and a friend founded the Crips in Los Angeles in 1971. Authorities say it is responsible for hundreds of deaths, many of them in battles with the rival Bloods for turf and control of the drug trade.
Among the celebrities who took up Williams' cause were Jamie Foxx, who played the gang leader in a cable movie about Williams; rapper Snoop Dogg, himself a former Crip; Sister Helen Prejean, the nun depicted in "Dead Man Walking"; Bianca Jagger; and former "M A S H" star Mike Farrell. During Williams' 24 years on death row, a Swiss legislator, college professors and others nominated him for the Nobel Prizes in peace and literature.
"If Stanley Williams does not merit clemency," defense attorney Peter Fleming Jr. asked, "what meaning does clemency retain in this state?"
The impending execution resulted in feverish preparations over the weekend by those on both sides of the debate, with the California Highway Patrol planning to tighten security outside the prison.
A group of about three dozen death penalty protesters were joined by the Rev. Jesse Jackson as they marched across the Golden Gate Bridge after dawn Monday en route to the gates of San Quentin, where they were expected to rally with hundreds of people.
At least publicly, the person apparently least occupied with his fate seemed to be Williams himself.
"Me fearing what I'm facing, what possible good is it going to do for me? How is that going to benefit me?" Williams said in a recent interview. "If it's my time to be executed, what's all the ranting and raving going to do?"
http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20051212/D8EF0OSO3.html?PG=home&SEC=news
<font size="5"><center>Schwarzenegger Denies Clemency for Williams</font size></center>
ThisJanuary 1996 photo made available by the
California Department of Corrections shows the
entrance to the execution chamber and the lethal
injection table at California's San Quentin State
Prison in San Quentin, Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwar-
zenegger on Monday, Dec. 12, 2005 refused to
spare the life of Stanley Tookie Williams, the founder
of the murderous Crips gang who awaited execution
after midnight, Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2005, in a case
that set off a debate over the possibility of redemption
on death row. Schwarzenegger said he was unconvinced
that Williams had had a change of heart, and he was
unswayed by pleas from Hollywood stars and capital
punishment foes who said the inmate had made amends
by writing children's books about the dangers of gangs.
(AP Photo/California Department of Corrections)
Dec 12, 6:49 PM (ET)
Associated Press
By DAVID KRAVETS
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger refused to block the execution early Tuesday of Stanley Tookie Williams, rejecting the notion that the founder of the murderous Crips gang had atoned for his crimes and found redemption on death row.
With a federal court refusing to grant a reprieve, Williams, 51, was set to die by injection at San Quentin Prison just after midnight for murdering four people during two 1979 holdups.
Williams' case became one of the nation's biggest death-row cause celebres in decades. It set off a nationwide debate over the possibility of redemption on death row, with Hollywood stars and capital punishment foes arguing that Williams had made amends by writing children's books about the dangers of gangs.
But Schwarzenegger suggested that Williams' supposed change of heart was not genuine, noting that the inmate had not owned up to his crimes or shown any real remorse for the countless killings committed by the Crips.
"Is Williams' redemption complete and sincere, or is it just a hollow promise?" Schwarzenegger wrote less than 12 hours before the execution. "Without an apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings, there can be no redemption."
Williams' supporters were disappointed with the governor's refusal to commute the death sentence to life in prison without parole.
"Too often I hear the governor and many who are around him talk about his values system," said NAACP President Bruce S. Gordon. "In this particular case, those values seem to be cast aside. There is absolutely no recognition given to redemption."
Williams stood to become the 12th person executed in California since lawmakers reinstated the death penalty in 1977.
He was condemned in 1981 for gunning down convenience store clerk Albert Owens, 26, at a 7-Eleven in Whittier and killing Yen-I Yang, 76, Tsai-Shai Chen Yang, 63, and the couple's daughter Yu-Chin Yang Lin, 43, at the Los Angeles motel they owned. Williams claimed he was innocent.
Just before the governor announced his decision, the 9th U.S. Circuit of Appeals denied Williams' request for a reprieve, saying there was no "clear and convincing evidence of actual innocence." His lawyers planned to take their case to the U.S. Supreme Court.
The last California governor to grant clemency was Ronald Reagan, who spared a mentally infirm killer in 1967. Schwarzenegger - a Republican who has come under fire from members of his own party as too accommodating to liberals - rejected clemency twice before during his two years in office.
In denying clemency to Williams, Schwarzenegger said that the evidence of his guilt was "strong and compelling," and he dismissed suggestions that the trial was unfair.
Schwarzenegger also pointed out the brutality of the crimes, noting that Williams allegedly said about one of the killings, "You should have heard the way he sounded when I shot him." According to the governor's account, Williams then made a growling noise and laughed for five to six minutes.
In addition, the governor noted that Williams dedicated his 1998 book "Life in Prison" to a list of figures that included the black militant George Jackson - "a significant indicator that Williams is not reformed and that he still sees violence and lawlessness as a legitimate means to address societal problems."
Schwarzenegger also noted that there is "little mention or atonement in his writings and his plea for clemency of the countless murders committed by the Crips following the lifestyle Williams once espoused. The senseless killing that has ruined many families, particularly in African-American communities, in the name of the Crips and gang warfare is a tragedy of our modern culture."
Williams and a friend founded the Crips in Los Angeles in 1971. Authorities say it is responsible for hundreds of deaths, many of them in battles with the rival Bloods for turf and control of the drug trade.
Among the celebrities who took up Williams' cause were Jamie Foxx, who played the gang leader in a cable movie about Williams; rapper Snoop Dogg, himself a former Crip; Sister Helen Prejean, the nun depicted in "Dead Man Walking"; Bianca Jagger; and former "M A S H" star Mike Farrell. During Williams' 24 years on death row, a Swiss legislator, college professors and others nominated him for the Nobel Prizes in peace and literature.
"If Stanley Williams does not merit clemency," defense attorney Peter Fleming Jr. asked, "what meaning does clemency retain in this state?"
The impending execution resulted in feverish preparations over the weekend by those on both sides of the debate, with the California Highway Patrol planning to tighten security outside the prison.
A group of about three dozen death penalty protesters were joined by the Rev. Jesse Jackson as they marched across the Golden Gate Bridge after dawn Monday en route to the gates of San Quentin, where they were expected to rally with hundreds of people.
At least publicly, the person apparently least occupied with his fate seemed to be Williams himself.
"Me fearing what I'm facing, what possible good is it going to do for me? How is that going to benefit me?" Williams said in a recent interview. "If it's my time to be executed, what's all the ranting and raving going to do?"
http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20051212/D8EF0OSO3.html?PG=home&SEC=news
Re: Should Schwarzenegger Grant Tookie Clemency???
I respect arnolds decision not to grant clemency. His case was denied by every other court including the US supreme court so it wouldn't be a good political decison for Arnold to grant clemency.
People shouldn't bemad about this man being executed. Yes he has changed his life, but He murdered four people, and is responsible for the death of thousands young black men by starting the Crips. To me that alone deserves death. He has tried to durn it around but the damage has been done and he has to pay with his life.
Look at the damage that street gangs has caused to blacks.... I like many people here have had family and friends killed by senseless gang violence and Tookie is responsible for founding one of the most notorious street gangs. We need to set an example out of him and have him executed...
I respect arnolds decision not to grant clemency. His case was denied by every other court including the US supreme court so it wouldn't be a good political decison for Arnold to grant clemency.
People shouldn't bemad about this man being executed. Yes he has changed his life, but He murdered four people, and is responsible for the death of thousands young black men by starting the Crips. To me that alone deserves death. He has tried to durn it around but the damage has been done and he has to pay with his life.
Look at the damage that street gangs has caused to blacks.... I like many people here have had family and friends killed by senseless gang violence and Tookie is responsible for founding one of the most notorious street gangs. We need to set an example out of him and have him executed...
Re: To Rehabilitate a Man, Sentence Him to Death
<font size="5"><center>Schwarzenegger Denies Clemency for Williams</font size></center>
ThisJanuary 1996 photo made available by the
California Department of Corrections shows the
entrance to the execution chamber and the lethal
injection table at California's San Quentin State
Prison in San Quentin, Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwar-
zenegger on Monday, Dec. 12, 2005 refused to
spare the life of Stanley Tookie Williams, the founder
of the murderous Crips gang who awaited execution
after midnight, Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2005, in a case
that set off a debate over the possibility of redemption
on death row. Schwarzenegger said he was unconvinced
that Williams had had a change of heart, and he was
unswayed by pleas from Hollywood stars and capital
punishment foes who said the inmate had made amends
by writing children's books about the dangers of gangs.
(AP Photo/California Department of Corrections)
Dec 12, 6:49 PM (ET)
Associated Press
By DAVID KRAVETS
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger refused to block the execution early Tuesday of Stanley Tookie Williams, rejecting the notion that the founder of the murderous Crips gang had atoned for his crimes and found redemption on death row.
With a federal court refusing to grant a reprieve, Williams, 51, was set to die by injection at San Quentin Prison just after midnight for murdering four people during two 1979 holdups.
Williams' case became one of the nation's biggest death-row cause celebres in decades. It set off a nationwide debate over the possibility of redemption on death row, with Hollywood stars and capital punishment foes arguing that Williams had made amends by writing children's books about the dangers of gangs.
But Schwarzenegger suggested that Williams' supposed change of heart was not genuine, noting that the inmate had not owned up to his crimes or shown any real remorse for the countless killings committed by the Crips.
"Is Williams' redemption complete and sincere, or is it just a hollow promise?" Schwarzenegger wrote less than 12 hours before the execution. "Without an apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings, there can be no redemption."
Williams' supporters were disappointed with the governor's refusal to commute the death sentence to life in prison without parole.
"Too often I hear the governor and many who are around him talk about his values system," said NAACP President Bruce S. Gordon. "In this particular case, those values seem to be cast aside. There is absolutely no recognition given to redemption."
Williams stood to become the 12th person executed in California since lawmakers reinstated the death penalty in 1977.
He was condemned in 1981 for gunning down convenience store clerk Albert Owens, 26, at a 7-Eleven in Whittier and killing Yen-I Yang, 76, Tsai-Shai Chen Yang, 63, and the couple's daughter Yu-Chin Yang Lin, 43, at the Los Angeles motel they owned. Williams claimed he was innocent.
Just before the governor announced his decision, the 9th U.S. Circuit of Appeals denied Williams' request for a reprieve, saying there was no "clear and convincing evidence of actual innocence." His lawyers planned to take their case to the U.S. Supreme Court.
The last California governor to grant clemency was Ronald Reagan, who spared a mentally infirm killer in 1967. Schwarzenegger - a Republican who has come under fire from members of his own party as too accommodating to liberals - rejected clemency twice before during his two years in office.
In denying clemency to Williams, Schwarzenegger said that the evidence of his guilt was "strong and compelling," and he dismissed suggestions that the trial was unfair.
Schwarzenegger also pointed out the brutality of the crimes, noting that Williams allegedly said about one of the killings, "You should have heard the way he sounded when I shot him." According to the governor's account, Williams then made a growling noise and laughed for five to six minutes.
In addition, the governor noted that Williams dedicated his 1998 book "Life in Prison" to a list of figures that included the black militant George Jackson - "a significant indicator that Williams is not reformed and that he still sees violence and lawlessness as a legitimate means to address societal problems."
Schwarzenegger also noted that there is "little mention or atonement in his writings and his plea for clemency of the countless murders committed by the Crips following the lifestyle Williams once espoused. The senseless killing that has ruined many families, particularly in African-American communities, in the name of the Crips and gang warfare is a tragedy of our modern culture."
Williams and a friend founded the Crips in Los Angeles in 1971. Authorities say it is responsible for hundreds of deaths, many of them in battles with the rival Bloods for turf and control of the drug trade.
Among the celebrities who took up Williams' cause were Jamie Foxx, who played the gang leader in a cable movie about Williams; rapper Snoop Dogg, himself a former Crip; Sister Helen Prejean, the nun depicted in "Dead Man Walking"; Bianca Jagger; and former "M A S H" star Mike Farrell. During Williams' 24 years on death row, a Swiss legislator, college professors and others nominated him for the Nobel Prizes in peace and literature.
"If Stanley Williams does not merit clemency," defense attorney Peter Fleming Jr. asked, "what meaning does clemency retain in this state?"
The impending execution resulted in feverish preparations over the weekend by those on both sides of the debate, with the California Highway Patrol planning to tighten security outside the prison.
A group of about three dozen death penalty protesters were joined by the Rev. Jesse Jackson as they marched across the Golden Gate Bridge after dawn Monday en route to the gates of San Quentin, where they were expected to rally with hundreds of people.
At least publicly, the person apparently least occupied with his fate seemed to be Williams himself.
"Me fearing what I'm facing, what possible good is it going to do for me? How is that going to benefit me?" Williams said in a recent interview. "If it's my time to be executed, what's all the ranting and raving going to do?"
http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20051212/D8EF0OSO3.html?PG=home&SEC=news
<font size="5"><center>Schwarzenegger Denies Clemency for Williams</font size></center>
ThisJanuary 1996 photo made available by the
California Department of Corrections shows the
entrance to the execution chamber and the lethal
injection table at California's San Quentin State
Prison in San Quentin, Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwar-
zenegger on Monday, Dec. 12, 2005 refused to
spare the life of Stanley Tookie Williams, the founder
of the murderous Crips gang who awaited execution
after midnight, Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2005, in a case
that set off a debate over the possibility of redemption
on death row. Schwarzenegger said he was unconvinced
that Williams had had a change of heart, and he was
unswayed by pleas from Hollywood stars and capital
punishment foes who said the inmate had made amends
by writing children's books about the dangers of gangs.
(AP Photo/California Department of Corrections)
Dec 12, 6:49 PM (ET)
Associated Press
By DAVID KRAVETS
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger refused to block the execution early Tuesday of Stanley Tookie Williams, rejecting the notion that the founder of the murderous Crips gang had atoned for his crimes and found redemption on death row.
With a federal court refusing to grant a reprieve, Williams, 51, was set to die by injection at San Quentin Prison just after midnight for murdering four people during two 1979 holdups.
Williams' case became one of the nation's biggest death-row cause celebres in decades. It set off a nationwide debate over the possibility of redemption on death row, with Hollywood stars and capital punishment foes arguing that Williams had made amends by writing children's books about the dangers of gangs.
But Schwarzenegger suggested that Williams' supposed change of heart was not genuine, noting that the inmate had not owned up to his crimes or shown any real remorse for the countless killings committed by the Crips.
"Is Williams' redemption complete and sincere, or is it just a hollow promise?" Schwarzenegger wrote less than 12 hours before the execution. "Without an apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings, there can be no redemption."
Williams' supporters were disappointed with the governor's refusal to commute the death sentence to life in prison without parole.
"Too often I hear the governor and many who are around him talk about his values system," said NAACP President Bruce S. Gordon. "In this particular case, those values seem to be cast aside. There is absolutely no recognition given to redemption."
Williams stood to become the 12th person executed in California since lawmakers reinstated the death penalty in 1977.
He was condemned in 1981 for gunning down convenience store clerk Albert Owens, 26, at a 7-Eleven in Whittier and killing Yen-I Yang, 76, Tsai-Shai Chen Yang, 63, and the couple's daughter Yu-Chin Yang Lin, 43, at the Los Angeles motel they owned. Williams claimed he was innocent.
Just before the governor announced his decision, the 9th U.S. Circuit of Appeals denied Williams' request for a reprieve, saying there was no "clear and convincing evidence of actual innocence." His lawyers planned to take their case to the U.S. Supreme Court.
The last California governor to grant clemency was Ronald Reagan, who spared a mentally infirm killer in 1967. Schwarzenegger - a Republican who has come under fire from members of his own party as too accommodating to liberals - rejected clemency twice before during his two years in office.
In denying clemency to Williams, Schwarzenegger said that the evidence of his guilt was "strong and compelling," and he dismissed suggestions that the trial was unfair.
Schwarzenegger also pointed out the brutality of the crimes, noting that Williams allegedly said about one of the killings, "You should have heard the way he sounded when I shot him." According to the governor's account, Williams then made a growling noise and laughed for five to six minutes.
In addition, the governor noted that Williams dedicated his 1998 book "Life in Prison" to a list of figures that included the black militant George Jackson - "a significant indicator that Williams is not reformed and that he still sees violence and lawlessness as a legitimate means to address societal problems."
Schwarzenegger also noted that there is "little mention or atonement in his writings and his plea for clemency of the countless murders committed by the Crips following the lifestyle Williams once espoused. The senseless killing that has ruined many families, particularly in African-American communities, in the name of the Crips and gang warfare is a tragedy of our modern culture."
Williams and a friend founded the Crips in Los Angeles in 1971. Authorities say it is responsible for hundreds of deaths, many of them in battles with the rival Bloods for turf and control of the drug trade.
Among the celebrities who took up Williams' cause were Jamie Foxx, who played the gang leader in a cable movie about Williams; rapper Snoop Dogg, himself a former Crip; Sister Helen Prejean, the nun depicted in "Dead Man Walking"; Bianca Jagger; and former "M A S H" star Mike Farrell. During Williams' 24 years on death row, a Swiss legislator, college professors and others nominated him for the Nobel Prizes in peace and literature.
"If Stanley Williams does not merit clemency," defense attorney Peter Fleming Jr. asked, "what meaning does clemency retain in this state?"
The impending execution resulted in feverish preparations over the weekend by those on both sides of the debate, with the California Highway Patrol planning to tighten security outside the prison.
A group of about three dozen death penalty protesters were joined by the Rev. Jesse Jackson as they marched across the Golden Gate Bridge after dawn Monday en route to the gates of San Quentin, where they were expected to rally with hundreds of people.
At least publicly, the person apparently least occupied with his fate seemed to be Williams himself.
"Me fearing what I'm facing, what possible good is it going to do for me? How is that going to benefit me?" Williams said in a recent interview. "If it's my time to be executed, what's all the ranting and raving going to do?"
http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20051212/D8EF0OSO3.html?PG=home&SEC=news
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In all honesty...I think the death penalty should only be used 4 the sick twisted killers like Dahmer, but from all that this one man has done against the black community, just do away with this nigga.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ritual10dec10,0,5992651,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines
Every Execution Detail Prescribed
Inmate movements, visitor rules, the mix of chemicals, the number of syringes: Nothing is left to chance. Wheels have started turning.
By Dan Morain
Times Staff Writer
December 10, 2005
SACRAMENTO — Barring clemency from the governor or a last-minute stay, Stanley Tookie Williams will be expected to walk on his own to the death chamber Monday at San Quentin State Prison.
If all goes according to procedure, Williams will not struggle as prison officers strap him to the injection table, connect the monitors that will record the final beats of his heart and insert the needles through which lethal chemicals will flow into his arms, once massive from lifting weights.
The death chamber will be equipped with 12 rolls of adhesive tape, 20 syringes, 10 needles, 15 tubes of varying sizes, four bags of saline solution, scissors, six tourniquets, two boxes of surgical gloves and one box each of surgical masks and alcohol wipes. There will be handcuffs and leg irons.
Nothing is left to chance. The choreography has been refined over the course of 11 executions at San Quentin since 1992 and hundreds before that. The smallest detail — including the dose and combination of chemicals that will sedate Williams, paralyze him and cause his death — is set forth in a 43-page document, San Quentin Operational Procedure No. 770.
Indeed, as the governor ponders clemency and as final appeals are readied, the steps laid out in Procedure 770 already are being taken. The long walk it prescribes for Williams — co-founder of the Crips street gang and convicted murderer of four people — began Oct. 26, when acting Warden J.D. Stokes appeared at his cell and read him the execution warrant.
Since that day, prison officials have been dismantling the life that Williams has known since he arrived on death row in 1981, and seeking to desensitize him to his impending death. The prison chaplain has visited Williams to "assess his spiritual and emotional well-being," as the rules dictate, and his "attitudes or thoughts on death and dying."
Williams was moved, in shackles, to a cellblock at the north end of the turn-of-the-century prison by San Francisco Bay. San Quentin houses 649 condemned inmates, but the 68 in "North Seg" — the original death row — have, in some ways, the best location. Cells are larger than most, inmates have their own exercise yard, and they can mingle on the open tier.
A team of officers began watching Williams around the clock Thursday, logging his activity at 15-minute intervals. Unusual behavior must be reported to the warden.
In 1967, Aaron Mitchell, condemned for the murder of a Sacramento police officer, ranted that he was Jesus Christ and slit his wrists on the night before his execution.
With his life perhaps measured in days, Williams does get some privileges. He can receive more visitors than usual. Celebrities, friends and reporters have come calling.
"The inmate and the visitor(s) may briefly embrace or shake hands at the beginning and end of the visit. No other physical contact will be allowed," Procedure 770 says.
Williams' lawyers have additional access but are limited to bringing "one pen or pencil, one note pad, necessary legal materials." There will be "constant visual observation" by guards.
On the third day before an execution — today — the chamber will be closed to anyone not cleared by the warden. The lieutenant in charge of the chamber controls the keys.
The chamber is in a self-contained unit at San Quentin. It has two holding cells, in case two executions are scheduled for the same day. There is an officers' area and a place for witnesses to stand. The unit is cleaned and sanitized daily.
On Sunday, the lieutenant must inventory the equipment and chemicals. Outdated items must be replaced immediately.
On Monday, the 5,500 inmates at San Quentin will stay locked in their cells.
It falls to prison officers to carry out the ultimate punishment, and they enlist the help of the condemned. "Our process begins with us interacting with the inmate," said Lt. Vernell Crittendon, a San Quentin officer who has witnessed all executions since 1992.
The prison staff has no fewer than 40 conversations with the condemned inmate, he said. The prison wants to ensure that nothing comes as a surprise
"There is constant contact," Crittendon said. "All subjects are covered. All are focused around the demise of the individual."
Robert Johnson, professor of justice, law and society at American University in Washington D.C., said a condemned prisoner thinks about whether the death "will be a dignified one or undignified."
"Cooperation, almost collusion, allows [prisoners] the sense of dignity," said Johnson, author of "Death Work, a Study of the Modern Execution Process."
For the most part, executions since 1992 have gone as planned, according to Crittendon, an accomplishment he attributes to "the preparation of the staff and the preparation of the inmate."
So far, Williams "has not agreed to be a part of any of the normal procedures," said Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation spokesman Todd Slosek. The prisoner declined, for example, to specify whether he wanted to be executed by gas or injection. The default method is injection, Slosek said.
On Thursday, when procedure dictated that Williams' belongings, including a toothbrush, be taken from his cell, he was "upset," according to Slosek. Officers will return the items if he requests them, but he must give each back when he's done with it.
Removal of such objects is "a security issue," Slosek said.
Barbara Becnel, Williams' close friend and confidant, said it's a question of dignity; he must even give up his bedding when he wakes in the morning. And when she visited him Thursday, he was shackled, unlike on past visits.
Becnel said the prison has "created a more harsh reality for Stanley Tookie Williams."
On Monday, one member of the execution team — whose identities remain secret under Procedure 770 — will take possession of the drugs needed to perform it, until the substances are needed or returned unused.
Officers will test the phone lines that run from the execution chamber to the California Supreme Court and the state attorney general's office. That's in case a stay is granted, as it was in 1992, after Robert Alton Harris, the first person executed in California after a 25-year gap, had been strapped in the gas chamber.
On Monday, an escort team will strip-search and shackle the prisoner in his cell. Then "the inmate, wearing only underwear, is escorted to the holding cell, where he is retained pending an unclothed body search, which includes a metal detector scan," says Procedure 770.
The prisoner receives new clothes: undershirt, shorts, socks, blue jeans, blue shirt and canvas slippers. Once clothed and placed back in restraints, the inmate is walked to the elevator and rides down six tiers, to the death-watch cell.
The cell has a bed and mattress, blanket, pillow, heater, radio, television, three sets of state-issued clothes, towels and a chess and checkers set. A lieutenant will tell the inmate that dinner is served at 6 p.m., and introduces the sergeant and two officers who will stand watch throughout Monday evening.
Valium or another relaxant will be available if the inmate requests it and health authorities approve.
The condemned inmate is also allowed "reasonable last requests," including special food and a choice of radio or television programs. Some inmates refuse last meals; Williams had not ordered one as of Friday.
Robert Lee Massie, executed in 2001, requested well-done fried oysters, french fries, two vanilla milkshakes and soft drinks. Harris' 1992 meal included Domino's pizza, KFC chicken and Pepsi.
Two hours before the execution — scheduled for one minute past midnight — the injection team will check that supplies are in place. An hour before the execution, the team readies the tubes and needles.
Visits to Williams will have ended, but the inmate's attorney can call, and a spiritual advisor, if Williams wants one, can stay with him until 45 minutes before the execution.
The warden will arrive, speak briefly with Williams — perhaps hearing his last words — and direct that witnesses take their places.
There is space for 50 witnesses, whose identities the prison does not reveal. Among them may be five witnesses and two spiritual advisors chosen by the inmate, victims' family members and reporters. Williams has not requested that any of his own family members or close friends be permitted to witness his execution, should it occur.
If it does, Williams will walk to the death chamber once witnesses are in place. The execution team will strap him to a gurney and connect him intravenously to two bags of saline solution. No member of the San Quentin staff may address team members by name or ask them anything that would require an oral response.
After a final time check, Warden Steven Ornoski will order that the flow of saline cease and be replaced with lethal agents: first, the sedative sodium pentothal, then potassium chloride to paralyze Williams and, finally, pancuronium bromide to stop his heart.
The identity of the person who has inserted the poison will not be revealed. The infusion will continue until the prison doctor pronounces Williams dead. The execution chamber will be shut with a curtain.
"The body shall be removed with care and dignity and placed in a body bag," says Procedure 770. "The chamber should then be cleaned thoroughly."
Every Execution Detail Prescribed
Inmate movements, visitor rules, the mix of chemicals, the number of syringes: Nothing is left to chance. Wheels have started turning.
By Dan Morain
Times Staff Writer
December 10, 2005
SACRAMENTO — Barring clemency from the governor or a last-minute stay, Stanley Tookie Williams will be expected to walk on his own to the death chamber Monday at San Quentin State Prison.
If all goes according to procedure, Williams will not struggle as prison officers strap him to the injection table, connect the monitors that will record the final beats of his heart and insert the needles through which lethal chemicals will flow into his arms, once massive from lifting weights.
The death chamber will be equipped with 12 rolls of adhesive tape, 20 syringes, 10 needles, 15 tubes of varying sizes, four bags of saline solution, scissors, six tourniquets, two boxes of surgical gloves and one box each of surgical masks and alcohol wipes. There will be handcuffs and leg irons.
Nothing is left to chance. The choreography has been refined over the course of 11 executions at San Quentin since 1992 and hundreds before that. The smallest detail — including the dose and combination of chemicals that will sedate Williams, paralyze him and cause his death — is set forth in a 43-page document, San Quentin Operational Procedure No. 770.
Indeed, as the governor ponders clemency and as final appeals are readied, the steps laid out in Procedure 770 already are being taken. The long walk it prescribes for Williams — co-founder of the Crips street gang and convicted murderer of four people — began Oct. 26, when acting Warden J.D. Stokes appeared at his cell and read him the execution warrant.
Since that day, prison officials have been dismantling the life that Williams has known since he arrived on death row in 1981, and seeking to desensitize him to his impending death. The prison chaplain has visited Williams to "assess his spiritual and emotional well-being," as the rules dictate, and his "attitudes or thoughts on death and dying."
Williams was moved, in shackles, to a cellblock at the north end of the turn-of-the-century prison by San Francisco Bay. San Quentin houses 649 condemned inmates, but the 68 in "North Seg" — the original death row — have, in some ways, the best location. Cells are larger than most, inmates have their own exercise yard, and they can mingle on the open tier.
A team of officers began watching Williams around the clock Thursday, logging his activity at 15-minute intervals. Unusual behavior must be reported to the warden.
In 1967, Aaron Mitchell, condemned for the murder of a Sacramento police officer, ranted that he was Jesus Christ and slit his wrists on the night before his execution.
With his life perhaps measured in days, Williams does get some privileges. He can receive more visitors than usual. Celebrities, friends and reporters have come calling.
"The inmate and the visitor(s) may briefly embrace or shake hands at the beginning and end of the visit. No other physical contact will be allowed," Procedure 770 says.
Williams' lawyers have additional access but are limited to bringing "one pen or pencil, one note pad, necessary legal materials." There will be "constant visual observation" by guards.
On the third day before an execution — today — the chamber will be closed to anyone not cleared by the warden. The lieutenant in charge of the chamber controls the keys.
The chamber is in a self-contained unit at San Quentin. It has two holding cells, in case two executions are scheduled for the same day. There is an officers' area and a place for witnesses to stand. The unit is cleaned and sanitized daily.
On Sunday, the lieutenant must inventory the equipment and chemicals. Outdated items must be replaced immediately.
On Monday, the 5,500 inmates at San Quentin will stay locked in their cells.
It falls to prison officers to carry out the ultimate punishment, and they enlist the help of the condemned. "Our process begins with us interacting with the inmate," said Lt. Vernell Crittendon, a San Quentin officer who has witnessed all executions since 1992.
The prison staff has no fewer than 40 conversations with the condemned inmate, he said. The prison wants to ensure that nothing comes as a surprise
"There is constant contact," Crittendon said. "All subjects are covered. All are focused around the demise of the individual."
Robert Johnson, professor of justice, law and society at American University in Washington D.C., said a condemned prisoner thinks about whether the death "will be a dignified one or undignified."
"Cooperation, almost collusion, allows [prisoners] the sense of dignity," said Johnson, author of "Death Work, a Study of the Modern Execution Process."
For the most part, executions since 1992 have gone as planned, according to Crittendon, an accomplishment he attributes to "the preparation of the staff and the preparation of the inmate."
So far, Williams "has not agreed to be a part of any of the normal procedures," said Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation spokesman Todd Slosek. The prisoner declined, for example, to specify whether he wanted to be executed by gas or injection. The default method is injection, Slosek said.
On Thursday, when procedure dictated that Williams' belongings, including a toothbrush, be taken from his cell, he was "upset," according to Slosek. Officers will return the items if he requests them, but he must give each back when he's done with it.
Removal of such objects is "a security issue," Slosek said.
Barbara Becnel, Williams' close friend and confidant, said it's a question of dignity; he must even give up his bedding when he wakes in the morning. And when she visited him Thursday, he was shackled, unlike on past visits.
Becnel said the prison has "created a more harsh reality for Stanley Tookie Williams."
On Monday, one member of the execution team — whose identities remain secret under Procedure 770 — will take possession of the drugs needed to perform it, until the substances are needed or returned unused.
Officers will test the phone lines that run from the execution chamber to the California Supreme Court and the state attorney general's office. That's in case a stay is granted, as it was in 1992, after Robert Alton Harris, the first person executed in California after a 25-year gap, had been strapped in the gas chamber.
On Monday, an escort team will strip-search and shackle the prisoner in his cell. Then "the inmate, wearing only underwear, is escorted to the holding cell, where he is retained pending an unclothed body search, which includes a metal detector scan," says Procedure 770.
The prisoner receives new clothes: undershirt, shorts, socks, blue jeans, blue shirt and canvas slippers. Once clothed and placed back in restraints, the inmate is walked to the elevator and rides down six tiers, to the death-watch cell.
The cell has a bed and mattress, blanket, pillow, heater, radio, television, three sets of state-issued clothes, towels and a chess and checkers set. A lieutenant will tell the inmate that dinner is served at 6 p.m., and introduces the sergeant and two officers who will stand watch throughout Monday evening.
Valium or another relaxant will be available if the inmate requests it and health authorities approve.
The condemned inmate is also allowed "reasonable last requests," including special food and a choice of radio or television programs. Some inmates refuse last meals; Williams had not ordered one as of Friday.
Robert Lee Massie, executed in 2001, requested well-done fried oysters, french fries, two vanilla milkshakes and soft drinks. Harris' 1992 meal included Domino's pizza, KFC chicken and Pepsi.
Two hours before the execution — scheduled for one minute past midnight — the injection team will check that supplies are in place. An hour before the execution, the team readies the tubes and needles.
Visits to Williams will have ended, but the inmate's attorney can call, and a spiritual advisor, if Williams wants one, can stay with him until 45 minutes before the execution.
The warden will arrive, speak briefly with Williams — perhaps hearing his last words — and direct that witnesses take their places.
There is space for 50 witnesses, whose identities the prison does not reveal. Among them may be five witnesses and two spiritual advisors chosen by the inmate, victims' family members and reporters. Williams has not requested that any of his own family members or close friends be permitted to witness his execution, should it occur.
If it does, Williams will walk to the death chamber once witnesses are in place. The execution team will strap him to a gurney and connect him intravenously to two bags of saline solution. No member of the San Quentin staff may address team members by name or ask them anything that would require an oral response.
After a final time check, Warden Steven Ornoski will order that the flow of saline cease and be replaced with lethal agents: first, the sedative sodium pentothal, then potassium chloride to paralyze Williams and, finally, pancuronium bromide to stop his heart.
The identity of the person who has inserted the poison will not be revealed. The infusion will continue until the prison doctor pronounces Williams dead. The execution chamber will be shut with a curtain.
"The body shall be removed with care and dignity and placed in a body bag," says Procedure 770. "The chamber should then be cleaned thoroughly."
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mr. no good's position is a good one. dude is just plain funny and he brings that knowledge.
