the shit you wrote is so dumb you gave me a fucking headache
Zoe Saldana’s ‘Nina’ Gets First Poster, More Online Backlash
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I wouldn't call it blackface because thats the very specific thing. I will say that darkening her complexion in such an obvious way is distracting and can pull the viewer out of the story.Zoe is the female version of this.....fuck this Black face shit. Watch the documentary instead.
I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know if this has been addressed but can anyone post proof of Zoe saying she isn't black because for all the years I've seen people make this claim about her I've only ever seen her say is that she was black and proud to be so.
Or Idris Elba in Mandela. gawd.
And I still say she doesn't have the chops. In many of her pics you can see her acting.
disturbing as fuck potna
I really don't give a fuck what you would call it, but Blackface is exactly what this is. This shit is no different than what Mantan and Sleep and Eat did getting ready for the show in Bamboozled. Yeah they were Black, but they added more "Darkening" to get into character.
No doubt but lets be honest she would've gotten shit on by a lot of people (particularly on this board) even had she not worn that shit.
A lot of people just don't like that sista and from what I can see it seems to be based off bullshit, baseless rumors and lies.
The make up to make her darker was a bad call, and she may/may not have the skill to pull off this role but it appears that a lot of this is based more on unwarranted vitriol towards her than anything else.
this is a caricature that's a deliberate act to show the most stereotypical aspects of black PEOPLE.
this is an impersonation of a black PERSON.. there is no deliberate attempt to besmirch black people or even that person.
Adding Blackface and prosthetics is an insult to Simone's legacy as a Black icon.
Denzel didn't look like Malcolm, but he transformed himself into becoming Malcolm without makeup through his acting skills.
Zoe's skills are lacking in that department, so the best they could do for her was darken her up?
Nah man, this shit ain't cool. She deserves whatever vitriol, warranted and unwarranted for taking this role.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoe_Saldana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoe_Saldana#Early_life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoe_Saldana#Personal_life
Saldana was born Zoe Yadira Saldaña Nazario[1] in Passaic, New Jersey.[2][3] Her father, Aridio Saldaña, was from the Dominican Republic, while her mother, Asalia Nazario, is from Puerto Rico.[4] Saldana also has Haitian and Lebanese roots.[5][6] She has often spoken of her pride in her ethnicity, and has said: "It doesn't matter how much backlash I will get for it; I will honor and respect my black community because that's who I am."[7] The majority of her early childhood she spent growing up in Jackson Heights, Queens, New York, and her native languages are both English and Spanish. She has two sisters, named Cisely and Mariel, and a half-brother named Nipo, known as "Nipo 809", who is a Dominican artist and producer.[8]
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Zoe Saldana-Perego (born Zoe Yadira Saldaña Nazario, June 19, 1978),[1] Zoe Saldana (/sælˈdænə/ sal-DAN-ə), is an American actress and dancer. Following her performances with the FACES theater group, Saldana made her screen debut in an episode of Law & Order (1999). Her film career began a year later with Center Stage (2000), followed by a role in Crossroads (2002). She first gained some prominence for her role as Anamaria in Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003).
Saldana's breakthrough came in 2009 with the roles of Nyota Uhura in Star Trek and Neytiri in James Cameron's Avatar (2009). The latter film received widespread acclaim, and is the highest-grossing film of all time (not adjusted for inflation). Saldana continued her successful career with films such as Colombiana (2011), Star Trek Into Darkness (2013), and Guardians of the Galaxy (2014).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoe_Saldana#Early_life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoe_Saldana#Personal_life
Saldana was born Zoe Yadira Saldaña Nazario[1] in Passaic, New Jersey.[2][3] Her father, Aridio Saldaña, was from the Dominican Republic, while her mother, Asalia Nazario, is from Puerto Rico.[4] Saldana also has Haitian and Lebanese roots.[5][6] She has often spoken of her pride in her ethnicity, and has said: "It doesn't matter how much backlash I will get for it; I will honor and respect my black community because that's who I am."[7] The majority of her early childhood she spent growing up in Jackson Heights, Queens, New York, and her native languages are both English and Spanish. She has two sisters, named Cisely and Mariel, and a half-brother named Nipo, known as "Nipo 809", who is a Dominican artist and producer.[8]
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Zoe Saldana-Perego (born Zoe Yadira Saldaña Nazario, June 19, 1978),[1] Zoe Saldana (/sælˈdænə/ sal-DAN-ə), is an American actress and dancer. Following her performances with the FACES theater group, Saldana made her screen debut in an episode of Law & Order (1999). Her film career began a year later with Center Stage (2000), followed by a role in Crossroads (2002). She first gained some prominence for her role as Anamaria in Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003).
Saldana's breakthrough came in 2009 with the roles of Nyota Uhura in Star Trek and Neytiri in James Cameron's Avatar (2009). The latter film received widespread acclaim, and is the highest-grossing film of all time (not adjusted for inflation). Saldana continued her successful career with films such as Colombiana (2011), Star Trek Into Darkness (2013), and Guardians of the Galaxy (2014).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoe_Saldana#Filmography
2000 Center Stage Eva Rodriguez
2001 Get Over It Maggie
2001 Snipes Cheryl
2002 Crossroads Kit
2002 Drumline Laila
2003 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl Anamaria
2004 The Terminal Dolores Torres
2004 Haven Andrea
2004 Temptation Annie
2005 Constellation Rosa Boxer
2005 Guess Who Theresa Jones
2005 Dirty Deeds Rachel Buff
2005 The Curse of Father Cardona Flor
2006 Premium Charli
2006 The Heart Specialist Donna
2007 After Sex Kat
2007 Blackout Claudine
2008 Vantage Point Angie Jones
2009 Star Trek Nyota Uhura
2009 The Skeptic Cassie
2009 Avatar Neytiri
2010 The Losers Aisha
2010 Takers Lily Jansen
2010 Death at a Funeral Elaine
2010 Burning Palms Sara Cotton
2011 Kaylien
Short film; director
2011 Colombiana Cataleya Restrepo
2012 The Words Dora Jansen
2013 Blood Ties Vanessa
2013 Star Trek Into Darkness Nyota Uhura
2013 Out of the Furnace Lena Warren
2014 Unity Narrator Documentary
2014 Infinitely Polar Bear Maggie Stuart
2014 Guardians of the Galaxy Gamora
2014 The Book of Life Maria Voice role
2016 Nina Nina Simone
2016 Star Trek Beyond Nyota Uhura In post-production
2017 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 Gamora Filming
2017 Live by Night Graciella Suarez Filming
2000 Center Stage Eva Rodriguez
2001 Get Over It Maggie
2001 Snipes Cheryl
2002 Crossroads Kit
2002 Drumline Laila
2003 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl Anamaria
2004 The Terminal Dolores Torres
2004 Haven Andrea
2004 Temptation Annie
2005 Constellation Rosa Boxer
2005 Guess Who Theresa Jones
2005 Dirty Deeds Rachel Buff
2005 The Curse of Father Cardona Flor
2006 Premium Charli
2006 The Heart Specialist Donna
2007 After Sex Kat
2007 Blackout Claudine
2008 Vantage Point Angie Jones
2009 Star Trek Nyota Uhura
2009 The Skeptic Cassie
2009 Avatar Neytiri
2010 The Losers Aisha
2010 Takers Lily Jansen
2010 Death at a Funeral Elaine
2010 Burning Palms Sara Cotton
2011 Kaylien
Short film; director
2011 Colombiana Cataleya Restrepo
2012 The Words Dora Jansen
2013 Blood Ties Vanessa
2013 Star Trek Into Darkness Nyota Uhura
2013 Out of the Furnace Lena Warren
2014 Unity Narrator Documentary
2014 Infinitely Polar Bear Maggie Stuart
2014 Guardians of the Galaxy Gamora
2014 The Book of Life Maria Voice role
2016 Nina Nina Simone
2016 Star Trek Beyond Nyota Uhura In post-production
2017 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 Gamora Filming
2017 Live by Night Graciella Suarez Filming
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_(2016_film)
In May 2010, it was announced Mary J. Blige and David Oyelowo had been cast in the film as Nina Simone, and Clifton Henderson respectively, with Cynthia Mort directing the film from a screenplay she had written, with production planned for September of that year.[1] In August 2012, it was announced that Zoe Saldana had been cast in the film, replacing Blige as Simone, Blige exited due to financial issues with the project.[2] The casting of Saldana has caused controversy, with Simone Kelly, Simone's daughter saying “My mother was raised at a time when she was told her nose was too wide, her skin was too dark. Appearance-wise this is not the best choice,"[3][4] In 2014, Mort had begun taking legal action after being cut of the decision making process making her upset and unhappy with the project she spent several years developing.[5]
In May 2010, it was announced Mary J. Blige and David Oyelowo had been cast in the film as Nina Simone, and Clifton Henderson respectively, with Cynthia Mort directing the film from a screenplay she had written, with production planned for September of that year.[1] In August 2012, it was announced that Zoe Saldana had been cast in the film, replacing Blige as Simone, Blige exited due to financial issues with the project.[2] The casting of Saldana has caused controversy, with Simone Kelly, Simone's daughter saying “My mother was raised at a time when she was told her nose was too wide, her skin was too dark. Appearance-wise this is not the best choice,"[3][4] In 2014, Mort had begun taking legal action after being cut of the decision making process making her upset and unhappy with the project she spent several years developing.[5]
- Zoe Saldana as Nina Simone
- David Oyelowo as Clifton Henderson
- Ella Thomas as Lorraine Hansberry
- Mike Epps as Richard Pryor
- Ella Joyce as Clifton's Mom
- Marianne Muellerleile as Nurse Mary
- Mary Pat Gleason as Orderly Pat
- Ronald Guttman as Henri Edwards
- Siena Goines as Heather
- Camille Natta as Michelle Laroche
- Kevin Mambo as Gilles
So hair dye and blackface are the same now? Fuck outta here.
naw. denzel didn't change a thing..he has natural red hair
I agree with all of that when that is in fact the legitimate reason for the backlash.
My point was (and it wasn't directed at you) even without any of this she still seems to get the same hate.
Even before the issues with her getting this role, prosthetics, blackface, etc. she still seemed to get this hate from a lot of people.
Perhaps because she isn't a good actress and because Nina's estate was against this film?
What I'm talking about has nothing to do with this film though.
The hate I've seen aimed towards her goes back years way before there was any discussion or clue about her playing Nina.
this is a caricature that's a deliberate act to show the most stereotypical aspects of black PEOPLE.
this is an impersonation of a black PERSON.. there is no deliberate attempt to besmirch black people or even that person.
I have to agree with you on this one. I was in doubt at first but the trailer sold me.
“When I go to the D.R., the press in Santo Domingo always asks, “¿Qué te consideras, dominicana o americana?” (What do you consider yourself, Dominican or American?) I don’t understand it, and it’s the same people asking the same question. So I say, time and time again, “Yo soy una mujer negra.” (“I am a black woman.”) [They go,] “Oh, no, tú eres trigueñita.” (“Oh no, you are ‘dark skinned’”) I’m like, “No! Let’s get it straight, yo soy una mujer negra.” (“I am a black woman).”
http://urbanbushbabes.com/zoe-saldana-i-am-a-black-woman/
Because she's a shitty actress who fucks white dudes and plays Black American icons, yet never (to my knowledge) represented Black America.
Come on brother.
She deserves hate because people don't like her acting? Because of who she fucks?
And someone posted a quote from her, one of numerous I've seen attributed to her over the years, speaking clearly and proudly about being a black woman. Ive never seen anything that suggests she feels differently.
Not fucking with her as an actress, or being against her playing Nina, and attacking and shitting on her, even questioning her blackness are totally different things.
'Star Trek's' Zoe Saldana on racism: 'I’m not going to talk about it'
Girl, Bye: Zoe Saldana Claims “People of Color” Don’t Exist
this is what people are salty about...Zoe says this shit then takes a role playing a women who was at the forefront of the Black is Beautiful movement.
Imagine a white actor who downplayed the holocaust and jewish persecution then took role playing a jewish activist who had a big nose so the actor puts on a prosthetic thats looks obvious. Suffice it to say many in the jewish community wouldn't be happy at all about it.
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I just read both articles and in neither did she deny or shit on her race.
What I took from it is that she's tired of always being defined by and having to discuss her race.
Jennifer Lawrence doesn't. Julia Roberts never had to. Same for Scarlett Johansson.
Why should our actors/actresses?
cuz thats how the industry she works in functions. THEY make decision that affect her career based on her gender and ethnicity. THEY see it as an issue. She needs to acknowledge that rather than down playing what she is.
She and kathrine heigl are the same age..as much as katherine has fucked up her career...if she were black she wouldn't have become a romcom queen for that short period of time she was..nor would she have ANY of the restart chances she's gotten over the last ten years or so..
theres your difference. If zoe saldana was white she career would be MUCH bigger than it is with more chances to fuck up and come back. Thats what she should be calling out.
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so would alot of other sistas in hollywood who never get a chance so what makes her special? especially darker skinned sistas who never even get a shot , atleast shes been steady "whoring"..sorry.!.. .i meant working for these cacs and shes never said shit about teh plight of black actresses in hollywood other tan that bs "i dont see racism "crap alot of them say..my issue with her isnt even that shes domincan ,i dont think anybody wouldve been against say GINA TORRES Mrs Larry fishburne or other dominican sistas , its just Zoe was the wrong choice in my opinion.. but thats just my opinion based on what i knew from jump about the situation and coupled with how they also dissed NINA"S legacy and her daughter..FUCK HOLLYWOOD CACS AND THEIR WENCHES ..ALSO FOR THE RECORD I DIDNT SEE MARY J PULLING IT OFF EITHER..BUT MARY WOULDVE BEEN A BETTER CHOICE EVEN THO I DIDNT WISH TO SEE MARY DOING NINA
You're reaching.
naw. denzel didn't change a thing..he has natural red hair