Your thoughts on this JayZ comment.

[World B Free]

I basically said that same shit. He outlasted everybody from his generation and many generations afterwards.

To quote Jay Z himself, can't knock the hustle

Unless they are Candice Owens or Jesse Lee Peterson, I root for any black person who is winning against the system, and I'm rooting for Jay Z and Beyonce

No doubt, bruh. Jay Z had the long term plan, that's why he bought-out Dame Dash's interest in The ROC and became the president and CEO of Def Jam, those are all boss moves. From there, he signed Rihanna, another boss move. Oh and he married Beyonce, another boss move. This brotha was thinking not only about rapping but his legacy and his business mogul status in the game. & he used that cool factor to further his business interests like the 40/40 club and his alcohol partnerships in brands like the Ace of Spades & D'USSÉ VSOP Cognac. & the list goes on and on, he's the model for a Black entrepreneur who happened to be a hip hop icon.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

His measuring sticks are all over the place...The very same metrics that would make Wayne the hottest 2008-2011 would make Jay the hottest 98-2004

DMX had 3 albums go platinum in a little more than a year. Let’s not do this.

 

[godofwine]

DMX had 3 albums go platinum in a little more than a year. Let’s not do this.

And then...

I don't judge an artist by any of their first 3 CDs. So many artists have 3 CDs, a greatest hits and then...

Poof, they're gone.

Only the greats last beyond those first 3 CDs

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

You know what they say. Everybody got to have a dream.

 

[keone]

It's true

 

[Walter Panov]

He's right. Not even up for debate. But Jay Z probably had a year or two where he was top 3.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Lotta hurt feeliings in here.. Dude uses numbers to back his stance and its "sales aint everything!!" while supporting the clown who told you niggas "numbers dont lie".. When he uses popularity its "his metrics are all over the place!!"...
The Jiggaboo's are a sensitive bunch.

 

[trappstarr82]

having more album sales doesn't make u the best rapper....
a bunch of wack mufuckas sell records.

It's true

He's right. Not even up for debate. But Jay Z probably had a year or two where he was top 3.

Jay has been consistent for 25+ years. What are yall even talking about right now?

i would rather have longevity over a long period of time than be the hottest thing smoking for 2 or 3 years and fade out like many of the artist he named.

 

[Bad Andy]

While this guy isn't wrong, he has outlasted everyone on that list who has had a better year than him that year he dropped something

Who else drops good music still from that era? Ludacris. I still fucks with Luda. Nas, Nas still drops heat, but almost everybody on that list hasn't dropped even a decent song in years.

Am I wrong?

This is not a spot on accurate take, but Frank Gore has never led the NFL in rushing, but there are only 2 players with more than his 16,000 (Emmett Smith and Walter Payton).

Longevity and dependability.

His measuring sticks are all over the place...The very same metrics that would make Wayne the hottest 2008-2011 would make Jay the hottest 98-2004

No matter how you slice it, Jay-Z is not a gimmick rapper. The ability to stay relevant as long as he has is priceless. We can’t deny Frank Sinatra his greatness even though he wasn’t putting out new music. Frank would sell out shows till his late 70’s. At that point it’s all about Iconic status. How many other 52 year old rappers can drop some bars today and still make a hit? Jay-Z is like the McDonalds of Rap. All the other rappers he mentioned are like trendy new expensive restaurants that go outta business after 3 years.

 

[Coldchi]

Jay has been consistent for 25+ years. What are yall even talking about right now?

i would rather have longevity over a long period of time than be the hottest thing smoking for 2 or 3 years and fade out like many of the artist he named.

u quotin me like i said somethin wrong......
nigga i agree wit u......lol

 

[Amajorfucup]

Jay has been consistent for 25+ years.

Yep. Hes consistently put out mediocre to shit albums since The Black Album.

 

[playahaitian]

dude just trolled all a yall

/thread

 

[supreme_kos]

Kinda like the Jordan/LeBron convo. Do stats make the better player? Or stats PLUS the effect on the culture....
I once told my guy, " How can LeBron be considered the greater player when he's been wearing Jordan's apparel, head to toe, for years. And still wearing it to this day!"

 

[shaddyvillethug]

and 96-97 may have been master p and no limits year

or nas for 96

96 had Pac

California love > anything JAYZ made in 96-98

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Kinda like the Jordan/LeBron convo. Do stats make the better player? Or stats PLUS the effect on the culture....
I once told my guy, " How can LeBron be considered the greater player when he's been wearing Jordan's apparel, head to toe, for years. And still wearing it to this day!"

Nigga please

Lebron gotta get to Kobe first.

 

[GAMETHEORY]

why is this important to black people?

 

[mcguyver]

But.. But.. But do his farts smell like Jay's farts though? IIgh then

Jay > God

BRUH......

 

[EPDC]

This is a dumb argument. Jay Z is an artist and his music is his art.

Art is meant to be appreciated in the immediate and long term. Some artists didn't get their due until long after they died. Did Rembrandt, Van Gogh or Basquiat ever had get voted the "hottest painter" of the year?

Hip Hop isn't a sport, so using sports logic (he never had a great year) is illogical.

Is he the greatest Hip Hop artist? That's debatable.

Is Nelly a greater artist because he had a better year than Jay? FOH

 

[supreme_kos]

Nigga please

Lebron gotta get to Kobe first.

I'm just saying, there's a lot to consider when discussing an entertainer's status as the best. Strictly numbers or cultural influence?
Every Saturday morning, barber shops across the country are divided on such topics, lol!

 

[keone]

Jay has been consistent for 25+ years. What are yall even talking about right now?

i would rather have longevity over a long period of time than be the hottest thing smoking for 2 or 3 years and fade out like many of the artist he named.

are we talking consistency, longevity or was the question when was jay the ''hottest'' rapper?
stick to the topic.

 

[trappstarr82]

Yep. Hes consistently put out mediocre to shit albums since The Black Album.

It's all subjective and that's your opinion. I disagree.

 

[trappstarr82]

are we talking consistency, longevity or was the question when was jay the ''hottest'' rapper?
stick to the topic.

Vanilla Ice was hot. What's the relevancy?

 

[big enos burrnet]

if a needle dropper was a commenter it would be him...jay had a shit load of hit singles on just bout every album his sales can back that up...

 

[KunningLinguist]

See, it begins. We're talking facts not opinions. We WILL NOT HAVE A CONVO based on OPINIONS

There aren't facts to best rapper

 

[jasonblacc]

Jay-Z managed to stay relevant by collaborating with those who hotter than him and remixing their songs as his own.

That’s drake

the energy vampire

 

[keone]

Vanilla Ice was hot. What's the relevancy?

again not stickin to the topic
topic was not relevancy bro
answer the original topic then we can go on and talke longevity and relevance

 

[trappstarr82]

again not stickin to the topic
topic was not relevancy bro
answer the original topic then we can go on and talke longevity and relevance

So Jay was never hot? I think he was really hot on the hard knock life run.

 

[Flawless]

Jay Z had a good marketing team.

 

[keone]

So Jay was never hot? I think he was really hot on the hard knock life run.

aight now we can talk
dmx was the man then

now if we talk relevancy jay prolly nr1
but he was never the top guy

 

[TheAlias]

Very astute observation. Indicative of research and statements backed by numbers based statistics.






But he's telling us this from the seat of the UPS truck he drives and Jay-Z is on his private island with Beyonce discussing buying franchises with one the richest men in the world.

And plus that, half them niggas he named is dead.

So what are we talking about here?

 

[jasonblacc]

Very astute observation. Indicative of research and statements backed by numbers based statistics.






But he's telling us this from the seat of the UPS truck he drives and Jay-Z is on his private island with Beyonce discussing buying franchises with one the richest men in the world.

And plus that, half them niggas he named is dead.

So what are we talking about here?

What the fuck man!!!

 

[TheAlias]

Unless they are Candice Owens

Curious. How come?

 

[Bad Andy]

96 had Pac

California love > anything JAYZ made in 96-98

Can't Knock the Hustle
Brooklyns Finest
Can I Live
Can I Live feat: Memp Bleek
Friend or Foe

As far as Anthems for your city lets also remember Pac/Mc New York is from New York
Empire State of Mind > California Love

Jay-Z Empire State of Mind is unofficially the Anthem for NYC. Can't say California Love has the same impact for Cali.

 

[REDLINE]

Again, what does "Hottest" mean?

If it means that Jay didn't have the highest selling rap album year after year he's probably right.

But what does that really mean?

 

[WattDogs]

Define hottest.

Cause my definition & yours might vary a little or a whole lot.

You can’t use random variables to define status.

 

[TheAlias]

What the fuck man!!!

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