WTF is happening on the stock market???

WTF is happening on the stock market???


Greed is a hell of a drug................:angry::angry::angry:


So now 0.25% cut is not enough?

The planned economic collapse is under way. The U.S. Economy is wayyy to complex to deal with especially when things like this get under way. The Fed actually did the right thing, they recognized that inflation was getting way out of hand and saw the limits. Right now, they're telling Wall Street to fuck off for now. However, this leaves a lot of things in the markets to become chaotic and chaotic very fast. This shit is all planned. One way or another, the stock market is going to fail from all the greed, corruption and fraud that the banks have committed. There is no way around it, unfortunately. For all you potential home buyers out there...Good luck finding any financing right now, even if you have great credit.
 
can someone explain to me whats happening in lamen terms

fuck my money is at risk

and i lost a lot during 9/11

i never want that shit to happen again

Unfortunately, your money isn't safe anywhere unless it's under your bed matress..A big problem with this Fractional Reserve Banking sytem. This is why I'm saying that this shit is planned. They're literally robbing people by inflation. Money Markets and Hedge Funds, if you have any of your money in this shit..I highly recommend you get your shit out. I had a customer call in complaining how Citibank would not let him take out his $15,000 out of his SAVINGS account. SAVINGS. No complex shit but just savings. We're about to have some old fashioned bank runs because these banks are TECHNICALLY INSOLVENT.
 
So i'm unreasonable????:lol:


Anyway, for people with no savings or investments, there is no change...... life will be just as hard anyway.


However for people that have savings, 401K,IRAs, mutual funds, stocks etc.... there is a real concern.




Say you had 100K in an investment account right now.

Do you know that by the year 2012 you would probably only have 80K of the equivalent purchasing power?

Once again, I agree with everything you're saying. There is no argument here.

My only point was I don't see anything wrong with what the Federal Reserve chairman said publicly.

I had a customer call in complaining how Citibank would not let him take out his $15,000 out of his SAVINGS account. SAVINGS. No complex shit but just savings. We're about to have some old fashioned bank runs because these banks are TECHNICALLY INSOLVENT.

Yeah, this kind of stuff kills me.

I remember in the movie "Blow" when the bank decided to keep his $30 million.

When you put money in the bank, brokerage account, IRA, 401K, etc. they control your money.

You just HOPE it's there when you need it.

But, what else can you do?
 
Does anyone know if thisis still valid???




In 1862, paper money was issued without the backing of precious metals, due to the Civil War.


Silver and gold coins continued to be issued and in 1878 the link between paper money and coins was reinstated.

This disconnect from gold and silver backing also occurred during the war of 1812.

The use of paper money not backed by precious metals had occurred under the Articles of Confederation from 1777 to 1788 when paper money became referred to as "not worth a continental".

This was a primary reason for the "no state shall require anything but gold and silver as tender in payment of debt" clause of the Constitution.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar

:confused::confused::confused:
 
Does anyone know if thisis still valid???




In 1862, paper money was issued without the backing of precious metals, due to the Civil War.


Silver and gold coins continued to be issued and in 1878 the link between paper money and coins was reinstated.

This disconnect from gold and silver backing also occurred during the war of 1812.

The use of paper money not backed by precious metals had occurred under the Articles of Confederation from 1777 to 1788 when paper money became referred to as "not worth a continental".

This was a primary reason for the "no state shall require anything but gold and silver as tender in payment of debt" clause of the Constitution.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar

:confused::confused::confused:

Yeah, Lincoln had to do that to finance the war effort on the Union side. That dumbass. Up until 1971, our money was backed by gold and/or silver. Nixon had to put us on a Fiat system or else other nations would've bankrupted the U.S...although we're technically bankrupt and have been for about 60+ years..

This what money looked like back then before 1971.

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Compare it to ours now..You'll see how fake our shit is.

dollar.jpg
 
Market Scan
Fed Pumps Up Liquidity
Evelyn M. Rusli, 12.12.07, 10:05 AM ET

Less than 24 hours after the Federal Reserve disappointed Wall Street with a quarter-point cut, the central bankers announced a new plan to shore up liquidity in the financial markets. On Wednesday morning, the Fed said it was teaming up with other central banks to initiate measures that will hopefully quell the credit crisis.

One of the new initiatives is the Term Auction Facility program, which will auction off more than $40 billion in term funds to financial institutions. In the Fed’s words, the facility will “promote the efficient dissemination of liquidity when the unsecured interbank markets are under stress.”

The program would widen the participation in financing beyond the big banks and brokers that are primary Fed dealers, allowing most U.S. banks to interact directly with the central bank. Traditionally, the primary dealers buy and sell short-term securites to and from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which can add or drain funds from the money supply through these transactions.

This multi-regional campaign also includes the Bank of Canada, the Bank of England, the European Central Bank, and the Swiss National Bank.

The facility will consist of four auctions, with the first auction, set for $20 billion, scheduled to begin on Monday and end on Thursday of next week. The second auction, which will also be $20 billion, will commence Dec. 20, with a settlement on Dec. 27. This auction will dole out 35-day loans. Finally, the third and fourth auctions will be in mid-to-late January, but the amount and duration of these term funds will be decided in January.

While the Fed did not comment what it might do after January, it left the door open for future auctions: “The Federal Reserve may conduct additional auctions in subsequent months, depending in part on evolving market conditions.” Indeed, the Term Auction Facility program, or similar measures, may become more common in the future. “Experience gained under this temporary program will be helpful in assessing the potential usefulness of augmenting the Federal Reserve’s current-monetary policy tools--open-market operations and the primary credit facility--with a permanent facility for auctioning term discount window credit,” the Fed said.

Unlike the current discount window, which has been dogged by the stigma that only troubled institutions need apply, the Fed hopes that many will participate in the auctions. In addition, the auction loan rates will be far more favorable than the rates on “discount window” loans. The current discount rate of 4.75% is half a percentage point higher than the interbank federal funds rate of 4.25%.

According to the Fed, all firms “that are judged to be in generally sound financial condition by their local Reserve Bank and that are eligible to borrow under the primary credit discount window program” are eligible.

On Wednesday, the Fed also announced it has arranged temporary reciprocal currency swap lines with with the European Central Bank and the Swiss National Bank. "These arrangements will provide dollars in amounts of up to $20 billion and $4 billion to the ECB and the SNB, respectively, for use in their jurisdictions," the Fed said. The lines are approved for six months.

http://www.forbes.com/2007/12/12/fed-taf-reserve-markets-equity-cx_er_1212markets08_print.html



so bernanke is going to flood lenders with cheap cash to prevent the downward spiral


Im telling yall they think people have too much power and freedom - they are going to tank the economy then buy up everything
 
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Interesting Makk. I've not read anything about that previous to your post...
DJIA 13,473.90 + 41.13
Nasdaq 2,671.14 + 18.79

That's how scary these muthafuckas are. :smh:
With the fed's tentacles stretched to touch every fuckin bank in good standing they have a much more fine tuned machine for decreasing and increasing the money supply and controlling the market, with the exception of not being able to counter any seriously horrible news/events.

Look at the lengths to which they have to go to keep this bullshit afloat. Another finger in the dyke, and another, and another. The serious problem is that I don't see any long term corrective measures being put in place. The middle class and poor are devouring themselves along with a huge chunk of American industry. Everything is flowing upward and outward.

Man, people are going to be starving. Rioting. I need to cop some guns and ammo.
 
DJIA 13,473.90 + 41.13
Nasdaq 2,671.14 + 18.79

That's how scary these muthafuckas are. :smh:
With the fed's tentacles stretched to touch every fuckin bank in good standing they have a much more fine tuned machine for decreasing and increasing the money supply and controlling the market, with the exception of not being able to counter any seriously horrible news/events.

Look at the lengths to which they have to go to keep this bullshit afloat. Another finger in the dyke, and another, and another. The serious problem is that I don't see any long term corrective measures being put in place. The middle class and poor are devouring themselves along with a huge chunk of American industry. Everything is flowing upward and outward.

Man, people are going to be starving. Rioting. I need to cop some guns and ammo.

For real, I foresaw this years ago. If you'd like check my posts. For years I've been saying that the next Civil War will be along economic and class lines. People who have money will naturally win because those with money make the laws.

Y'all have been hearing me say that I will only date/marry a chick that makes major paper. Money won't make you happy but it sure gives you options. I'd like the option of having enough dough to fly wherever I need to fly or go to at a moments notice. 6 figures liquid now trying to get to 7 figures within 5 years. And I keep a personal safe with 4 figures in it at all times. I might need to increase it to 5 figures because you never know...
 
For real, I foresaw this years ago. If you'd like check my posts. For years I've been saying that the next Civil War will be along economic and class lines. People who have money will naturally win because those with money make the laws.

Y'all have been hearing me say that I will only date/marry a chick that makes major paper. Money won't make you happy but it sure gives you options. I'd like the option of having enough dough to fly wherever I need to fly or go to at a moments notice. 6 figures liquid now trying to get to 7 figures within 5 years. And I keep a personal safe with 4 figures in it at all times. I might need to increase it to 5 figures because you never know...

Hey bruh I hear you in 7.1 surround sound. How do you reconcile your position and personal responsibility since you are floating to the top?
 
I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.
To me you seem as though you are not in agreement that there should be this class based warfare. Just a guess since I don't what your personal beliefs are.
If you are against what is taking place, how do you feel about your having to actively participate to protect yourself? Do you feel personally responsible at all for having to in essence promote a system you are opposed to?

If you are not opposed to it then I have no questions.
 
I have only briefly scanned the posts. Looks like there are a lof of conspiracy theorists on here. I am not about to write a thesis in this bitch. I am not about to give away free, detailed advice either. To summarize:

Recession is inevitable
Real Estate market is garbage
Dollar will continue to plunge

This means look for commodities and companies with strong international sales to outperform. You want to ride this thing out with large cap stocks that pay healthy dividends.
 
Anyone see the rapid decline of the buying power of the dollar making a turnaround in the near future?

It's getting so ridiculous, that I posted on the sports board about Euro players in the NBA complaining that the salary they were making in US dollars is an illusion because when they go back home their money is a lot less significant than it would be in the states.

I still believe in investing in the stock market for the long term but that is why I'll invest mainly in value stocks that pay a DIV.
 
So i'm unreasonable????:lol:


Anyway, for people with no savings or investments, there is no change...... life will be just as hard anyway.


However for people that have savings, 401K,IRAs, mutual funds, stocks etc.... there is a real concern.




Say you had 100K in an investment account right now.

Do you know that by the year 2012 you would probably only have 80K of the equivalent purchasing power?

Bruh, you saying I lose 20 g's!!!!!!! :confused: I knew shit was bad but dam.

1. So what do I convert my money to?

2. Do I get better returns in foreign banks?

3. If I convert my cash to said currency, where can I spend it. Like does best buy take euros???

I admit my planning has been flawed, I was relying on the dollar having high value wherever I went. I only thought about the SAVING aspect of things.

4. Also as US citizen are their any ways my capital gains wont be taxed if I make foreign investments? I know our government are like the only pigs that tax worldwide.

Any help would be appreciated, although I know how to make money and save it all this devalue shit is greek to me. I know I dont want my money tied up in any american property either, so what should I do?
 
The market wished for .50 points and got only .25. The Feds may have reasoned that the market was strong enough to take a hit. This would leave them a little more room to make more aggressive cuts later. But then came the wave of angry comments about the Fed chairman's ignorance. The Feds caved in by effectively saying:"oops!". So on the one hand, they showed the market that you cannot always predict the Feds and thus price a higher rate cut into the market. On the other hand, the market pretty much said:"You do what WE say bitch". Oh well, there is always a fast a buck to be made from riding the volatile waves.

The best thing the Government can do is to allow the private sector oil companies to build new refineries, and search for new oil thats in our hemisphere. However, the global warming freaks will not have any of that. We must suffer so we can hate Bush, and buy into the global warming bs. Thus, the stock market will have to fix itself after we get through a recession...

Trust me on this ('cause I know a guy), the oil companies DO NOT want to build more refineries. I was told that they have plenty of oil, but cannot refine it into gas fast enough to meet demand. For them, this is a great thing as it allows them to regulate their supply. In other words, they always make sure they are producing no more than just enough gas for the current demand. They will never give up this pricing advantage. In addition, they could care less about the "global warming freaks". After all, these rich bastards own the folks in government. So if they wanted more refineries, believe me, they would get them. But if you were one of them....would YOU?
 
To me you seem as though you are not in agreement that there should be this class based warfare. Just a guess since I don't what your personal beliefs are.
If you are against what is taking place, how do you feel about your having to actively participate to protect yourself? Do you feel personally responsible at all for having to in essence promote a system you are opposed to?

If you are not opposed to it then I have no questions.

I don't think that there should be warfare along any lines. No one really wins a war there are only varying degrees of loss.

Regarding actively participating in stock piling cash, I think I would do that even if I didn't feel that problems will rear their heads.

I think I understand what you're asking. Yes, I am in the belly of the beast. Being in that position allows me to have insight into "their" thoughts and actions. A white paralegal said that I was "whiter" than her because I always talk about how I'm from the streets (not really true). I'm in the beast but I'm fully aware of who I am and the situation I'm in. That's primarily why I've taken on law students as mentees and undergrads as mentees so I can help them along this path. Honestly, as I've stated before, I'm the only black male associate in a firm that's been around almost 120 years. The only people that have looked out for me have been white because there aren't any bros or sisses up here and I'm not high on the totem pole. I try to encourage our people to make paper. I tell them how I made and make paper and encourage them to do the same then teach others. We don't have a lot of guidance and I've taught myself a lot.

I used to say that it was lonely at the top...then I realized that I was still at the bottom and had a lot of work to do to catch up. What's big in some worlds is really small in others. I was a millionaire at 35. 7 figures in my bank account. I lost more than half in a divorce but I'm going to make it happen again. I've told this story many times. I took $25k turned it into $100k in one year in the stock market. Then, I started buying real estate. Got divorced, finally took the bar, passed and here I am.

I also don't think I'm promoting a system that I'm opposed to. I am working within the system to make as much money as possible so I can open my own businesses and employ people. I remember when I was a real estate developer and I was feeding families every Friday when i paid my workers do you know how good that felt?

No one cares about broke people so I'm helping my people get dough.

Don't get it twisted I'm trying to make paper so I can watch my businesses grow to pass on to those that will come behind me. Then I'm looking to become a judge. When I become a judge, not if when, I'll continue making a difference. We'll get a fair shake in my court. It won't be on the federal level because I don't have the grades, law school or connections for that. That's alright, I'll make an impact at the state level.

Hopefully, somewhere within this long ass manifesto that is screaming for Colin I answered your questions.
 
I don't think that there should be warfare along any lines. No one really wins a war there are only varying degrees of loss.

Regarding actively participating in stock piling cash, I think I would do that even if I didn't feel that problems will rear their heads.

I think I understand what you're asking. Yes, I am in the belly of the beast. Being in that position allows me to have insight into "their" thoughts and actions. A white paralegal said that I was "whiter" than her because I always talk about how I'm from the streets (not really true). I'm in the beast but I'm fully aware of who I am and the situation I'm in. That's primarily why I've taken on law students as mentees and undergrads as mentees so I can help them along this path. Honestly, as I've stated before, I'm the only black male associate in a firm that's been around almost 120 years. The only people that have looked out for me have been white because there aren't any bros or sisses up here and I'm not high on the totem pole. I try to encourage our people to make paper. I tell them how I made and make paper and encourage them to do the same then teach others. We don't have a lot of guidance and I've taught myself a lot.

I used to say that it was lonely at the top...then I realized that I was still at the bottom and had a lot of work to do to catch up. What's big in some worlds is really small in others. I was a millionaire at 35. 7 figures in my bank account. I lost more than half in a divorce but I'm going to make it happen again. I've told this story many times. I took $25k turned it into $100k in one year in the stock market. Then, I started buying real estate. Got divorced, finally took the bar, passed and here I am.

I also don't think I'm promoting a system that I'm opposed to. I am working within the system to make as much money as possible so I can open my own businesses and employ people. I remember when I was a real estate developer and I was feeding families every Friday when i paid my workers do you know how good that felt?

No one cares about broke people so I'm helping my people get dough.

Don't get it twisted I'm trying to make paper so I can watch my businesses grow to pass on to those that will come behind me. Then I'm looking to become a judge. When I become a judge, not if when, I'll continue making a difference. We'll get a fair shake in my court. It won't be on the federal level because I don't have the grades, law school or connections for that. That's alright, I'll make an impact at the state level.

Hopefully, somewhere within this long ass manifesto that is screaming for Colin I answered your questions.
Excellent. I remember your username but was not aware of your background. More to success to you.
 
I have only briefly scanned the posts. Looks like there are a lof of conspiracy theorists on here. I am not about to write a thesis in this bitch. I am not about to give away free, detailed advice either.

To summarize:

Recession is inevitable
Real Estate market is garbage
Dollar will continue to plunge

This means look for commodities and companies with strong international sales to outperform. You want to ride this thing out with large cap stocks that pay healthy dividends
.



Thanks bro............

:yes:
 
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