Writer's Circle: Why is it so difficult to write a BLACK show?

He was supporting it. He gave it views. On youtube if you look at those movie trailers? You'll see people arguing there as well. Each time they viewed..is support.

You're not supposed to do stuff for people SOLELY to agree with you.

you know what youre right..those were assholes who refused to get the joke..gotcha ;)
 
What about Will smith with After Earth that was Sci-Fi with a main black guy and it failed. Didnt he do Irobot too. And hancock. Will got the black sci-fi covered:lol::lol:

after earth didn't fail it made a quarter of a billion dollars in the box office.

we should all wish to fail like that.
 
naw you're just used to eating the white man's shit and calling it caviar:smh:

i'm the last person u'd ever say some dumbshit.. if u actually peep most of the shit i say it's pretty anti-cac.. i always say fuck hollywood and download.. i always talk about cutting the cord.. goin to sports streaming sites.. not watching tv or goin to the movies.. u'll hear me go anti shitty made cac products and i always talk about the jews, the fags, the italians in my bizz.. i'm farrrrrrrrrrrrrr from a cac lover.. some people will call me borderline racist.. u rarely ever hear me give a cac bitch a compliment.. u juss can't take the truth that ur thread wasn't funny and that honest trailers is better than ur threads.. don't believe me make a post with all ur critic and post all the honest trailer vids in them and ask the board which is better ur wack ass segments or honest trailer..u'll see that most will agree ur segments would be very inferior to their's
 
i'm the last person u'd ever say some dumbshit.. if u actually peep most of the shit i say it's pretty anti-cac.. i always say fuck hollywood and download.. i always talk about cutting the cord.. goin to sports streaming sites.. not watching tv or goin to the movies.. u'll hear me go anti shitty made cac products and i always talk about the jews, the fags, the italians in my bizz.. i'm farrrrrrrrrrrrrr from a cac lover.. some people will call me borderline racist.. u rarely ever hear me give a cac bitch a compliment.. u juss can't take the truth that ur thread wasn't funny and that honest trailers is better than ur threads.. don't believe me make a post with all ur critic and post all the honest trailer vids in them and ask the board which is better ur wack ass segments or honest trailer

Well I did get some participation and laffs at my observations in the thread you just cried like a bitch the loudest..but like WTGGT said everyone has an opinion..if nothing else you bumped it and others got to see it so thats a good thing so carry on with the hateration:rolleyes:
 
Well I did get some participation and laffs at my observations in the thread you just cried like a bitch the loudest..but like WTGGT said everyone has an opinion..if nothing else you bumped it and others got to see it so thats a good thing so carry on with the hateration:rolleyes:

when u say a term learn what it means..the slang version of hate is jealousy.. there is nothing about ur life that i envy or ever want to be.. many question ur sexuality, ur catty responses, ur wack ass threads, ur cac female worship, and some of the wack things u say.. hate would be the last thing i would give u..more like disgust and pity..u see i understand those terms that i just said look it up and u will to

cried like a bitch lmao nig please i pointed out how inaccurate u were with ur observations.. u were mad that i pointed out that ur vision and comprehension skills wasn't up to par to follow the movie.. u were butt hurt cause i pointed out mad wrong shit u said and corrected it..the funny thing is i kno ur butt hurt cause u made that thread last yr and still clinging on to those things i pointed out.. like i said catty responses
 
Really all I want in a science fiction show with a black cast or main character.

It's almost like super science, magic and what have you ONLY happens to whites. Shit's beyond old.

Homeboys in outerspace?

:smh:
 
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Don't sleep. This show is hilarious. Exec producer is a black dude.
 
I have already said this in another thread:

We have enough people on here with enough talent and resources to make a Black show. And to make it good.


So...who gonna?
 
I have already said this in another thread:

We have enough people on here with enough talent and resources to make a Black show. And to make it good.


So...who gonna?

This was one of the reasons I started the thread...
you saw right through me
There is series called money and violence on YouTube it's s huge success being compared to the wire...
imagine a bgol network on YouTube
we have the money men on here who could not only get funding but handle budgets and advertising. We have some of the best legal minds available decades of experience in entertainment and I can honestly say some of the best writers in the world no exaggeration.
I haven't touched on music photography and technology

imagine a weekly music show reviewing new music and videos like video podcast...
a life style show for black women
a half hour comedy and hour long romance drama ongoing like a modern twist on the soap opera
Talking classic music with Uncle Chuck...
reviewing popular tv series with Jay and Bills
health and fitness with finger
I could go on....
bgol threads are pretty much ongoing classic scripts
 
I would be willing to be one of the writers.

a bgol webseries? like awkward black girl? could be dope.

im a writer and actor

This was one of the reasons I started the thread...
you saw right through me
There is series called money and violence on YouTube it's s huge success being compared to the wire...
imagine a bgol network on YouTube
we have the money men on here who could not only get funding but handle budgets and advertising. We have some of the best legal minds available decades of experience in entertainment and I can honestly say some of the best writers in the world no exaggeration.
I haven't touched on music photography and technology

imagine a weekly music show reviewing new music and videos like video podcast...
a life style show for black women
a half hour comedy and hour long romance drama ongoing like a modern twist on the soap opera
Talking classic music with Uncle Chuck...
reviewing popular tv series with Jay and Bills
health and fitness with finger
I could go on....
bgol threads are pretty much ongoing classic scripts

Exactly.

Do it. I'd love to throw my hat in the pot but I got...issues...Bills should be interested too. I hope.

I'd love to see something like this get off the ground. Seriously. I've been watching YT videos of interest lately and I find myself going for hours (at work). I got ideas though...Hopefully we can start with the producer role and work from there. And most of us are in Atlanta so...that could prove...interesting...

I couldn't imagine how to put this together but I know it can be done. GET TO IT!
 
Real simple because blank women are considered the economic engine of black society and black woman don't read comic book or believe in fantasy. I hate to break it to y'all but black women are considered more ghetto than black men. Popular culture promote two kinds of black women 1. Nene leaks (ghetto ratchet over sensitized loud mouth) and 2. Tyler Perry church momma. ( yes I used a man in a women post cuz he is the other type of black woman) church based but not grounded in reality person who can't see the reality in front of them.

Black men are actually more aligned with white men in terms of likes and dislikes. But since we are not captains of industry and controlling more board rooms we can't sponsor the media of our choosing. Thus we are left to the Hollywood types to decide what we watch.

So are you making a race argument or a gender argument? Lots of white and black women like "Sex and the City".

The Sleepy Hollow police force is THEE most diverse police force in the WORLD. Abby is with a white and there's rumors she's "destined" to hook up with Ichabod. So... that doesn't count.

But it makes sense if she does hook up with Ichabod. It would fit the storyline.

I would like to see a black Sci-Fi movie...

...but please do it before Tyler Perry tires of doing the same shit and tries something different.

I don't think I could deal with seeing neck cranking black women driving spaceships, and churches on the damn moon.

:lol:

What about Will smith with After Earth that was Sci-Fi with a main black guy and it failed. Didnt he do Irobot too. And hancock. Will got the black sci-fi covered:lol::lol:

And he's been criticized for it. "He only fights aliens in his movies." His characters are deemed to be too "safe".
 
This was one of the reasons I started the thread...
you saw right through me
There is series called money and violence on YouTube it's s huge success being compared to the wire...
imagine a bgol network on YouTube
we have the money men on here who could not only get funding but handle budgets and advertising. We have some of the best legal minds available decades of experience in entertainment and I can honestly say some of the best writers in the world no exaggeration.
I haven't touched on music photography and technology

imagine a weekly music show reviewing new music and videos like video podcast...
a life style show for black women
a half hour comedy and hour long romance drama ongoing like a modern twist on the soap opera
Talking classic music with Uncle Chuck...
reviewing popular tv series with Jay and Bills
health and fitness with finger
I could go on....
bgol threads are pretty much ongoing classic scripts
First kats need to respond to PMs and clear out their inboxes filled to capacity! :rolleyes:
 
No when we say black we don't mean it has to be anything other than a cast full of black people.. at least that's what i think. i don't limit it to any type of show including any type of things. just black people writing for and about starring black people.

I can dig it. How do we get it done?
 
Listen. If people are going to really try and do it then we need real commitments beyond a pm and beyond a post in a thread saying I'll do it.

the shit is hard work. gotta be willing to work together. gotta be willing to follow directions and overall get the job done.

I would be down to participate but I will not be left in the wind to see something through that was originally supposed to be a team effort period.

So if people are really serious about it then let me know. If people are really trying to do it beyond the whole it sounds good shit..then let me know.


I can do whatever, including take the lead. that includes writing, producing, scoring, and anything else in the creative lane including coming up with ideas or cultivating your own.

we can have several different types of series and have an actual channel. We can make a production team and we can make it legally binding via the services of lawyers on this board.

If we do it let's do it for real and make something for real.

I'm down. I'm no flake though and I don't wanna be caught out there.
 
Listen. If people are going to really try and do it then we need real commitments beyond a pm and beyond a post in a thread saying I'll do it.

the shit is hard work. gotta be willing to work together. gotta be willing to follow directions and overall get the job done.

I would be down to participate but I will not be left in the wind to see something through that was originally supposed to be a team effort period.

So if people are really serious about it then let me know. If people are really trying to do it beyond the whole it sounds good shit..then let me know.


I can do whatever, including take the lead. that includes writing, producing, scoring, and anything else in the creative lane including coming up with ideas or cultivating your own.

we can have several different types of series and have an actual channel. We can make a production team and we can make it legally binding via the services of lawyers on this board.

If we do it let's do it for real and make something for real.

I'm down. I'm no flake though and I don't wanna be caught out there.

I'm down. Not flaking, either. I need the practice with writing, so yeah. Lemme know what is needed.
 
because they don't give a shit about art...or because the people writing black shows don't give a shit about art

all they want to do is get paid. Cheap thrills and quick bucks. The storytelling aspect of it is dead
 
Friends with an all black Cast was called Living Single, and before that, A Different World.

All black Seinfeld was Martin. These types of shows can work with all black casts.


:hmm: Man, damn you Blu. I sat here and said the same thing to my sister, got ready to type that shit out and you already did it, down to the exact same examples. You even one upped me by throwing in ADW.

I don't think it would be any more difficult to write positive black images, but I think "black" shows often leave stories and/or characters underdeveloped in exchange for the easier laugh or more simplified plot line.

I've noticed that with a lot of the more recent Black shows.
 
It's not difficult to write a black show. It's difficult for a room of white writers to write black show.

This.

They feel like every black show has to be dealing with problems or concerns of the black community as a whole.

Or they must have all the stereotypical tropes for it to work. Their creativity is limited for black people same reason why they can't invision us as super heroes or fantasy and sci-fi characters beyond the jive talking butt-kicking tough guy or girl.

It's not difficult to write positive black images you just need a good story to wrap them in.
 
Listen. If people are going to really try and do it then we need real commitments beyond a pm and beyond a post in a thread saying I'll do it.

the shit is hard work. gotta be willing to work together. gotta be willing to follow directions and overall get the job done.

I would be down to participate but I will not be left in the wind to see something through that was originally supposed to be a team effort period.

So if people are really serious about it then let me know. If people are really trying to do it beyond the whole it sounds good shit..then let me know.


I can do whatever, including take the lead. that includes writing, producing, scoring, and anything else in the creative lane including coming up with ideas or cultivating your own.

we can have several different types of series and have an actual channel. We can make a production team and we can make it legally binding via the services of lawyers on this board.

If we do it let's do it for real and make something for real.

I'm down. I'm no flake though and I don't wanna be caught out there.

I'm down with this. Let's do it. We got the whole year ahead to make it happen.

Let's just first start with the writing. The easiest and most important part.
 
No when we say black we don't mean it has to be anything other than a cast full of black people.. at least that's what i think. i don't limit it to any type of show including any type of things. just black people writing for and about starring black people.

But to me as an avid tv watcher and one time potential writer that is still a problem. We are always very narrow in what our definition of a 'black' show is and that it has to have a majority black cast instead of just maybe saying we have black voices we can acknowledge exist within the show. It is a lot about us deciding oh we have to fit into a certain block for the majority of people.
 
I'm down. Not flaking, either. I need the practice with writing, so yeah. Lemme know what is needed.
Writer

I'm down to be an idea guy and let the more experienced writers do the heavy lifting.

Think Tank/ Idea Cultivator

I'm down with this. Let's do it. We got the whole year ahead to make it happen.

Let's just first start with the writing. The easiest and most important part.


Writer

But to me as an avid tv watcher and one time potential writer that is still a problem. We are always very narrow in what our definition of a 'black' show is and that it has to have a majority black cast instead of just maybe saying we have black voices we can acknowledge exist within the show. It is a lot about us deciding oh we have to fit into a certain block for the majority of people.

I understand what you're saying but that really doesn't apply to me as far as view of what Black people can do and be. The most important part is the story after the story then just add black faces to fill those roles is basically what I'm saying.

will you be down to write?
 
I'm thinking we could coordinate and assemble and find out who can and is willing to contribute maybe we use one of the sub forums to congregate (business networking?)

Maybe ask HNIC if he could open the writing forum back up and we can communicate with each other there?

free exchange of ideas concepts skills sets etc.

Bills essentially broke down the teams...

Still need the YouTube experts to give us the guidelines of creating a channel and potential advertising $$$ down the line. Just so we have that info available

Since http://www.bluntbit.com/ was launched I have kicked this idea around and as usual life gets in the way talk yourself out of things fear mistrust obligations etc...

I am personally guilty of this to capital offense levels.

but this something even if you can be there day to day I think just the encouragement the ideas and he support will motivate those who have the gift and just need the opportunity.

Look at how long its taken for Brother Shane's fundraiser to get up and running...

Like I said I can speak from experience...

potential can be a curse...when it is never fully realized.

I really think this this can be done...I have no IDEA exactly how but I I KNOW that is all there in front of us.

And the best part even if it only amuses no one else but US I think it will be well worth the effort.
 
* serious writing and production discussion...

With the mega-success of Empire and Power before and black-ish during (shout out to fresh off the boat) why for DECADES has the entertainment industry claimed it so DIFFICULT to write Black voices?

the obvious answer is because they have no Black people behind the camera in the writers room in the director's chair etc...

but I read a great post by cousin Jay dade about how black people usually tend to support he WORST images of us. the worst stereotypes like many of the caricatures on Empire...and even when so called positive images are available they rarely support it.

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=836303&highlight=dash

So I've been discussing this with friends and I've heard a few different answers and one thing that was mentioned was would FRIENDS have worked if it was all Black cast? Could their have been an all black Seinfeld etc?

I remember Cosby was criticized earlier on bcasue the show never RELLY dealt with poverty drug use or sex pregnancy etc...and he esentially said we have covered that, exhausted that image.

And I alwasys agtreed but I also think we also need to be shown as filly formed multi faceted human beings too.

The Wire didn't offend me because it was BRILLIANT I feel good writing trumps all...I know many Italians that HATED the Sopranos but felt that was hollow, because the so called NEGATIVE stereotypes was essentially considered COOL.

Its all about the quality of the product THE STORY.

So I wanted to ask is it MORE difficult to WRITE POSITIVE images then negative images especially when it pertains to Black characters?


It's not hard, there aren't a lot of non white writers hired in hollywood. The mainstream society wants shows that reinforce what they already believe. Using a mascot like Lee Daniels to say Empire is a black show is a deception, the writers room is not predominantly black. The writers room on Cosby and Different World were mostly white too.

Powerful white male executives aren't too keen on voices or ideas that aren't in cohesion with their own. Fresh off the boat is a funny show based on an Asian American's bestselling book but few of the writers are non white.

Black & Sexy TV, Issa Rae, etc are making and writing good shows from mostly non white perspectives that are growing online. Network TV doesn't have any incentive to hire or create more diversity ...they could survive if all non whites never watched any television
 
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