Working and Living abroad thread

This thread is amazing. I am strongly considering either the Air Force (the JAG program) or The Foreign Service after I graduate from University. Reading about the foreign service is making me lean that way a little more. We need more minorities abroad!!!
 
another thing I read about Foreign Service is that if you know one of the critcal needs languages they will speed up your application Arabic,Chinese etc
 
another thing I read about Foreign Service is that if you know one of the critcal needs languages they will speed up your application Arabic,Chinese etc
Yeah i heard that too! I already speak japanese but i don't think thats a critical need language. I want to learn Chinese and/or Arabic. I heard they PAY you to learn the necessary languages if you get in. Class for up to 6 hrs a day for 2 years.
 
What do you know about Ghana and the opportunities there for Americans? I've heard a lot of good things about that country and hear it's a popular spot for Black Americans to move to.

Checkout this Time article... It's a few years old but you should find it pretty interesting. It's about African Americans relocating to Ghana.

Ghana's New Money
It took Anita Bryant and Erieka Bennett all of a day last May to earn their commission on what was supposed to have been a three-week gig. Together, Bryant and Bennett run the Bridge, a consultancy that helps African Americans who would like to invest in Africa navigate the continent's folkways, and they were trying hard to shepherd a delegation filled with prominent clients through Ghana without mishap. The delegation was celebrating the signing of a sister-city agreement between Washington and Accra. And while most of the entourage was excited about visiting the capital, no one would have mistaken them for ambassadors of Ghanaian culture.

Some delegates complained about the length of the tour. Others, having been honored with gifts of land and gold, never bothered to say thank you. Then when Bennett took the group to see the Asantehene--the king of Ghana's storied Ashanti tribe--there was little deference shown. A woman who was introduced to the king asked him for a glass of water and tried to sit next to him. "When you do business in Africa, you really need to know what to do," says Bryant. "You never shake someone's hand with your left. When you enter a room, you wait to be told where to sit."

It's an amazing kind of cultural clash if you think about it. Bryant set up her company two years ago, after she noticed the number of African Americans investing in Ghana was on the increase. And now those black Americans--successful entrepreneurs and corporate managers--were being told to kiss some royal butt. Ghana, a major source of human cargo during the slave trade, has been a favored destination for African Americans since it won independence from Britain in 1957. Those who make the pilgrimage often talk of an epic search for their roots and a grand narrative of Pan-Africanism. But increasingly, it's trade, investment and entrepreneurship anchoring those high ideals. Ghana's President John Kufuor has aggressively courted his country's long-lost cousins. Ghanaian government officials are contemplating a bill that would grant dual citizenship to African Americans who invest in Ghana or maintain a home there. Some native Ghanaians in the U.S. have started organizing tours for African-American businessmen. When they arrive, the guests are usually showered with gifts, and sometimes they are made honorary chiefs.

read the rest of the article...
 
Yeah i heard that too! I already speak japanese but i don't think thats a critical need language. I want to learn Chinese and/or Arabic. I heard they PAY you to learn the necessary languages if you get in. Class for up to 6 hrs a day for 2 years.

it may be better to learn chinese because if you learn Arabic you are pretty much guaranteed to go to a war zone.
 
Checkout this Time article... It's a few years old but you should find it pretty interesting. It's about African Americans relocating to Ghana.

Ghana's New Money
It took Anita Bryant and Erieka Bennett all of a day last May to earn their commission on what was supposed to have been a three-week gig. Together, Bryant and Bennett run the Bridge, a consultancy that helps African Americans who would like to invest in Africa navigate the continent's folkways, and they were trying hard to shepherd a delegation filled with prominent clients through Ghana without mishap. The delegation was celebrating the signing of a sister-city agreement between Washington and Accra. And while most of the entourage was excited about visiting the capital, no one would have mistaken them for ambassadors of Ghanaian culture.

Some delegates complained about the length of the tour. Others, having been honored with gifts of land and gold, never bothered to say thank you. Then when Bennett took the group to see the Asantehene--the king of Ghana's storied Ashanti tribe--there was little deference shown. A woman who was introduced to the king asked him for a glass of water and tried to sit next to him. "When you do business in Africa, you really need to know what to do," says Bryant. "You never shake someone's hand with your left. When you enter a room, you wait to be told where to sit."

It's an amazing kind of cultural clash if you think about it. Bryant set up her company two years ago, after she noticed the number of African Americans investing in Ghana was on the increase. And now those black Americans--successful entrepreneurs and corporate managers--were being told to kiss some royal butt. Ghana, a major source of human cargo during the slave trade, has been a favored destination for African Americans since it won independence from Britain in 1957. Those who make the pilgrimage often talk of an epic search for their roots and a grand narrative of Pan-Africanism. But increasingly, it's trade, investment and entrepreneurship anchoring those high ideals. Ghana's President John Kufuor has aggressively courted his country's long-lost cousins. Ghanaian government officials are contemplating a bill that would grant dual citizenship to African Americans who invest in Ghana or maintain a home there. Some native Ghanaians in the U.S. have started organizing tours for African-American businessmen. When they arrive, the guests are usually showered with gifts, and sometimes they are made honorary chiefs.

read the rest of the article...

I've already read that article. :cool: Thanks.
 
Black Brits USA
http://www.blackbritsusa.com/
Black Paris Tours
http://www.tomtmusic.com/id24.htm

http://www.transitionsabroad.com/


for students"BSA Minority Study Abroad Programs focuses on study abroad opportunities for underrepresented American undergraduate and graduate students. Our program participants come from a wide range of academic disciplines."
http://www.bsaminoritystudyabroad.co...ore/about-bsa/

general african info
http://myafrica.allafrica.com/list/a...ns/main/class/

general expat info
http://www.escapeartist.com/Expatriates/
http://www.transitionsabroad.com/lis...websites.shtml
http://www.expatexchange.com/

working for non profit organizations such as Care.org is good way to work overseas . Some work on an administrative management level overseas live in safe nice area .


volunteer info and for students aid for studying abroad.

http://www.transitionsabroad.com/listings/study/articles/studyjul1.shtml
 
I worked in addis, ethiopia at a grammar school in 2006 during the summer it was so cool I love the city and the people were very nice.
 
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Personally I am seriously plotting to move to Swisstzerland or Liechtenstein for my European base...(this will pretty much depend on how much i made) I am getting tired of London even though its a good place in terms of business since you cant beat London as a hub

Otherwise i wont mind having a permanent move to Africa...while still keeping a crib in London just in case Vaduz or Zurich doesnt work

Of course Africa will always have my first priority
 
This is a great thread for brothers looking to broaden their horizon. I'm somewhat established in my current job so it would be hard to get up and leave to go overseas.

Also dont forget the Rosetta Stone and Pimsleur language threads for those needing to work on their foreign language skills.
 
http://www.expatica.com/

http://www.german-way.com/expat.html

Two great sites that talks about living in Europe,as an expatriate. I just flew my 14 year old nephew here for the summer, and he's having a ball. Did his homework about the region, and he's keeping a journal about his travels. My daughter just turn 17 years old, and speaks German pretty good. I'm comfortable with them getting on a train and traveling anywhere here.

I work with the State Department, and have a year left on a four year assignment (thinking about extending for at least another year). I'm always encouraging young blacks to look at working for the U.S. Government overseas.http://www.state.gov/ I see nothing but young white kids working in the Embassies,Consulates, and other State Department functions.:(

Department of Defense School System (DODSS),http://www.eu.dodea.edu/ is also a pretty good employer for those who want to pursue teaching American kids overseas. Plus there are colleges like University of Maryland, Embry Riddle, university of Central Texas etc. that are always looking for instructors.


The reason you only see young whites working is because they have the connections to get those jobs. I'm trying to work for the State Department, but it seems like you have to have an inside connection to do it.
 
This thread is excellent by the way.

I'm trying to get out of here for a little while, but I don't want to go back to school (already have a B.A. and M.A.) I have Spanish language skills and am working on my Japanese, but if Chinese is the way to go...I'm going to shift my focus. Trying to go international is harder than some of you are making it seem; there are a lot of factors to consider.
 
Why english? And how are the attitudes in these countries towards Americans and Black Americans in particular?
 
Why english? And how are the attitudes in these countries towards Americans and Black Americans in particular?

Im not sure which country you are referring too but after traveling abroad ,talking with foreigners I hear good and bad about almost every country. For example I talked to a Mexican couple who lived in Buenos Aires,Argentina for 4 months and they said there was a lot of racism toward blacks. Then I met a black girl who lived there for over a year she loved it and I met an old white couple from Argentina when I lived in Cuba and they were warm and friendly. Bottom line just go and don't worry about the racism and attitudes toward America.
 
OK updates: In NEW ZEELAND ITS FUCKED UP
Expats' paradise lost in New Zealand's jobs crisis - just weeks after it was named best place to make a fresh start
Only a few weeks ago, New Zealand was identified as the best place for British expats to make a fresh start.
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It didn't take long for the accolade to wear thin.

The dreams of hundreds who left for a better life on the other side of the world are now turning into nightmares.
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The expats face losing their jobs and being kicked out of the country because of the credit crunch and what is said to be a major shift in policy by the New Zealand government.

With unemployment at a six-year high of 5 per cent of the population of 4,300,000, tough economic times have led to jobs going to native New Zealanders first.

One reason is the decision by Kiwis who have lost jobs overseas to return and seek work at home.

Employment minister Paula Bennett says more than 3,000 of the 26,000 who returned last year ended up on benefits.

Jobless foreigners risk losing their work visas and having to return to Britain, with some accusing the New Zealand government of pursuing a 'jobs for Kiwis' policy.

A migrant assistance group, created by two Britons who emigrated nine years ago, has infuriated the government by issuing a pamphlet that claims the attitude of officials is: 'We've taken your money, used your skills, now b****r off!' Mike Bell, of the Move2NZ group, said: 'We are seeing families who have worked here years being effectively kicked out in two weeks.

'Many have existing jobs or offers of work in areas listed by immigration as being in dire shortage. Employers are tearing their hair out as there's nothing they can do.'

Some 20,000 skilled Britons went to New Zealand to work in 2008. They were given visas allowing them to take jobs and apply for permanent residency after two years.
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Beautiful: Brits have enjoyed the good life in New Zealand but now face being kicked out if they are made redundant

But the 'Essential Skills' policy of bringing in experts from abroad appears to be in tatters. This follows a report last month from the New Zealand auditor general that highlighted bad decision-making in the immigration department.

Mr Bell said New Zealand lured skilled foreigners who filled gaps in the jobs market and added more than £3billion a year to the economy.

He said: 'The government now appears to be working hard to sabotage this lucrative source of income by effectively kicking out staff that employers badly need.

'These workers have been invited. But they are effectively being told New Zealand doesn't want them any more. Many have applications for new or renewed permits declined, even if their occupations are on the 'Essential Skills' list. Desperate employers are denied permission to keep skilled staff.'

Mr Bell said one European family had ended up separated and living on charity, adding: 'We are just seeing the tip of the iceberg.

'Horrible situation': With their savings gone and dream now a nightmare this family are going back to Scotland
 
2 400 000 South Korean won = 1896 U.S. dollars :confused::confused:

:smh:

not enough for me

:lol:

I have traveled and worked abroad, mostly in "third world" aka developing countries. The most important thing to keep in mind is that these ARE third world countries. If you want to live like an American, you are missing the point, and it would be best to stick to first world countries. Either that or work in an OPEC country.
 
Im not sure which country you are referring too but after traveling abroad ,talking with foreigners I hear good and bad about almost every country. For example I talked to a Mexican couple who lived in Buenos Aires,Argentina for 4 months and they said there was a lot of racism toward blacks. Then I met a black girl who lived there for over a year she loved it and I met an old white couple from Argentina when I lived in Cuba and they were warm and friendly. Bottom line just go and don't worry about the racism and attitudes toward America.

Co-sign to the fullest.:cool:


:lol:

I have traveled and worked abroad, mostly in "third world" aka developing countries. The most important thing to keep in mind is that these ARE third world countries. If you want to live like an American, you are missing the point, and it would be best to stick to first world countries. Either that or work in an OPEC country.

I'm basing my comment from what you quoted, but since when is South Korea considered a 3rd world country?
 
One thing you'd better think long and hard about is health care. And infrastructure. If you're in a bad way you don't want to be bouncing over a dirt road for 2 hours just to get to a "clinic".
 
what about a plain old civilian? i see most people responding are military

and wouldn't you have to be fluent in a second language [main language of country] to be a teacher?
 
:lol:

I have traveled and worked abroad, mostly in "third world" aka developing countries. The most important thing to keep in mind is that these ARE third world countries. If you want to live like an American, you are missing the point, and it would be best to stick to first world countries. Either that or work in an OPEC country.

Living in the first world isn't cracked as you think it is. Theres people in third world countries that live way better than people in the first world. If you come from some hood or run down neighbourhood and talking disparagingly about the third world:rolleyes:
 
what about a plain old civilian? i see most people responding are military

and wouldn't you have to be fluent in a second language [main language of country] to be a teacher?

Not always. In countries like South Korea, they have English-only schools where the students are forced to speak English with you (the teacher) at all times.
 
Not always. In countries like South Korea, they have English-only schools where the students are forced to speak English with you (the teacher) at all times.

I think we should have immersion school options like this in the states.

There are other programs that don't require you to know the language. I can think of one program (THE ROBERT BOSCH FOUNDATION FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM) that will teach you some German before you leave.

http://jobs.foreignaffairs.org/Employment/JobDisplay.asp?id=36

THE ROBERT BOSCH FOUNDATION FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM
FOSTERING A COMMUNITY OF FUTURE TRANSATLANTIC LEADERS

The Robert Bosch Foundation and CDS International invite US professionals to apply for the 2010-2011 Robert Bosch Foundation Fellowship Program. Twenty Bosch Fellows will complete a nine-month professional development program consisting of two high-level work phases in major German institutions and three seminars taking place throughout Europe.

PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS:

- High-level work experience in German institutions including the federal government and parliament, private corporations, print and broadcast media, law firms and NGOs.

- Travel, seminars and networking events throughout Europe -- fellows meet with key decision-makers in the public and private sectors, gaining an in-depth understanding of current issues facing the European Union and Germany

- Generous monthly stipend and compensation package including health, accident and liability insurance and coverage of transatlantic and program-related travel costs; additional funding is available for families

- Intensive German language training provided as needed in US and Germany up to seven months prior to program start in September 2009. No German language skills required at time of application.

- Incredible networking opportunities with 400+ Robert Bosch Fellowship Alumni

QUALIFICATIONS:

Candidates should be US citizens between the ages of 23 and 34 with 2+ years relevant work experience in their proposed field of work in Germany. Candidates should have a Graduate degree completed or in progress in the following fields: business administration, economics, journalism, mass communications, law, political science, and public affairs/public policy. Applicants without Master degrees are encouraged to apply provided they have at least 2+ years of work experience in the respective field.

APPLICATION INFO:

Applications for the program beginning in September 2010 will be due in mid-October 2009. For further information and to download an application, please visit our website, http://www.cdsintl.org/fellowshipsabroad/bosch.php.

Required Documents:
-Completed application form
-Resume
-Official transcript of graduate studies (or of undergraduate if applicant has no graduate level transcript)
-A personal statement (approx. 2 pages or 850 words) describing short- and long-term career plans, interest in transatlantic relations, and personal objectives for the proposed stay in Germany. It is essential to describe the experience the applicant hopes to acquire in the seminars and the work phases of the Bosch program, proposing institutions and/or companies for both work phases.
-2 letters of recommendation
 
what about a plain old civilian? i see most people responding are military

and wouldn't you have to be fluent in a second language [main language of country] to be a teacher?

usually but some ESL programs dont require it. I cant see all these american going to South Korean and already being fluent in Korean when it barely even taught here in the states.
 
Why english? And how are the attitudes in these countries towards Americans and Black Americans in particular?

From my experience, if you're near an army base, they would assume you're a soldier. If it's an ethnic polarized country, you're either from America or Africa.

Getting ass would vary as our world image isn't sparkling. Black celebrities are a different matter. Occasional racists. Definitely read up on a country before going there. Not just wikipedia type information but finding internet forums like these but from your countries of interest.
 
I think we should have immersion school options like this in the states.

There are other programs that don't require you to know the language. I can think of one program (THE ROBERT BOSCH FOUNDATION FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM) that will teach you some German before you leave.

http://jobs.foreignaffairs.org/Employment/JobDisplay.asp?id=36

THE ROBERT BOSCH FOUNDATION FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM
FOSTERING A COMMUNITY OF FUTURE TRANSATLANTIC LEADERS

The Robert Bosch Foundation and CDS International invite US professionals to apply for the 2010-2011 Robert Bosch Foundation Fellowship Program. Twenty Bosch Fellows will complete a nine-month professional development program consisting of two high-level work phases in major German institutions and three seminars taking place throughout Europe.

PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS:

- High-level work experience in German institutions including the federal government and parliament, private corporations, print and broadcast media, law firms and NGOs.

- Travel, seminars and networking events throughout Europe -- fellows meet with key decision-makers in the public and private sectors, gaining an in-depth understanding of current issues facing the European Union and Germany

- Generous monthly stipend and compensation package including health, accident and liability insurance and coverage of transatlantic and program-related travel costs; additional funding is available for families

- Intensive German language training provided as needed in US and Germany up to seven months prior to program start in September 2009. No German language skills required at time of application.

- Incredible networking opportunities with 400+ Robert Bosch Fellowship Alumni

QUALIFICATIONS:

Candidates should be US citizens between the ages of 23 and 34 with 2+ years relevant work experience in their proposed field of work in Germany. Candidates should have a Graduate degree completed or in progress in the following fields: business administration, economics, journalism, mass communications, law, political science, and public affairs/public policy. Applicants without Master degrees are encouraged to apply provided they have at least 2+ years of work experience in the respective field.

APPLICATION INFO:

Applications for the program beginning in September 2010 will be due in mid-October 2009. For further information and to download an application, please visit our website, http://www.cdsintl.org/fellowshipsabroad/bosch.php.

Required Documents:
-Completed application form
-Resume
-Official transcript of graduate studies (or of undergraduate if applicant has no graduate level transcript)
-A personal statement (approx. 2 pages or 850 words) describing short- and long-term career plans, interest in transatlantic relations, and personal objectives for the proposed stay in Germany. It is essential to describe the experience the applicant hopes to acquire in the seminars and the work phases of the Bosch program, proposing institutions and/or companies for both work phases.
-2 letters of recommendation

those fellowships require too many qualifications but I think fellowships are still a good option.
 
From my experience, if you're near an army base, they would assume you're a soldier. If it's an ethnic polarized country, you're either from America or Africa.

Getting ass would vary as our world image isn't sparkling. Black celebrities are a different matter. Occasional racists. Definitely read up on a country before going there. Not just wikipedia type information but finding internet forums like these but from your countries of interest.

Good advice. I started looking into the JET Programme, which hires English teachers in Japan, and found a couple of forums. I was interested until I found this thread where folks posted pics of where they were placed. It was clear the program mostly put people in little boring, rural towns.

http://www.ithinkimlost.com/japan-jet-school-related/9205-where-i-live.html

I would prefer a mid to large city.
 
Good advice. I started looking into the JET Programme, which hires English teachers in Japan, and found a couple of forums. I was interested until I found this thread where folks posted pics of where they were placed. It was clear the program mostly put people in little boring, rural towns.

http://www.ithinkimlost.com/japan-jet-school-related/9205-where-i-live.html

I would prefer a mid to large city.

man I checked those pics out, the scenery look peaceful as hell. I would be content with just visiting the city on the weekends if I was able to.
 
Im not sure which country you are referring too but after traveling abroad ,talking with foreigners I hear good and bad about almost every country. For example I talked to a Mexican couple who lived in Buenos Aires,Argentina for 4 months and they said there was a lot of racism toward blacks. Then I met a black girl who lived there for over a year she loved it and I met an old white couple from Argentina when I lived in Cuba and they were warm and friendly. Bottom line just go and don't worry about the racism and attitudes toward America.

I hear you . It's the old adage{sic}, you find what you look for.:hmm:
 
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