Bosh was the only of the Big 3 that showed up in the finals last year. Now he is out and the Heat are in trouble. If the break them up Wade is gone. He is more important to the Heat than Wade.
With Bosh out of the lineup. Can you know agree he is more important than Wade?
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You mad cause Philly is still in it and the Knick are done.
He honestly is. We crack jokes on Bosh but he's a good player. He's a little soft but he's talented enough to score against any defender. I think for Miami if they fail to win this year they may need to make a trade. Wade is their best trade chip. They could for example get a shooting 2 guard and center. Which might make them a more complete team. Like trade with the nets get brook Lopez, marshon brooks and a first round pick for wade. Then the heat would have Lopez, Bosh, James, Brooks, and Chalmers. They would still have a mike miller, and Haslem coming off the bench. The floor would be spaced out for bosh and Lebron to operate. Brooks and Chalmers can both shoot and they would have a big man to rebound and score down low. The nets would get a big marquee name to go along with deron Williams. If they could keep Gerald Wallace and Humphries they have a decent team. If they luck out and get Anthony Williams they would have a real nice squad.
I think the distinction between "most valuable" and most important" player is asinine but I will say this.
If you had a choice of playing 2 of the Heat 3 then Wade is the most expendable. The team obviously misses CB and what he brings to the table and he has proven to be the consummate professional by not complaining despite the fact that Spoelstra has misused him for 2 seasons now.
It'll be interesting to see what Pat Riley does in the offseason if they don't win the title because they need an upgrade somewhere and it'll start at the top with the HC.
If you had a choice of playing 2 of the Heat 3 then Wade is the most expendable. The team obviously misses CB and what he brings to the table and he has proven to be the consummate professional by not complaining despite the fact that Spoelstra has misused him for 2 seasons now.
It'll be interesting to see what Pat Riley does in the offseason if they don't win the title because they need an upgrade somewhere and it'll start at the top with the HC.
I'm curious, can you give me a short list of post players that you think are not soft?
Kobe, Duncan, garnet, al Jefferson, Kevin love, Paul millsap, al horford, Bynum, Dwight, faried, Kenyon Martin, Scola, David west, artest, Aldridge, melo, Randolph, Jamison, and javale.
The HEAT need to trade Wade for D Howard...
No. I think they all three serve a purpose and play their roles. But when the supporting cast doesn't help, it's easy for defenses to lock in on Wade and James.
Kobe's a post player?
Kobe's a post player?
He's not much better in that either.
Bron and Wade do a lot of the same things. Bosh provides the only semblance of a post presence offensively. With him out Bron has to move into that role while still fulfilling his other responsibilities. With Wade out and Bosh in everybody is still playing their same roles and it's an easier transition.
This isn't the same as what Danny Ainge did in Boston when he brought in Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett. With Paul Pierce, those three offer three different players that complement each other. This is more similar to Houston bringing in Charles Barkley and Scottie Pippen to go with Hakeem Olajuwon. They didn't win a championship.
It is like watching my little girls have the arguement over and over. Funny shit though. I feel for Bosh. But the team will be better by trading Wade and getting at least two players to make a bench.
in this series yes. indiana has an inside game and bosh is an all star power forward who puts up good numbers on a team with 2 other people who shoot a lot.
actually the way its looking with the new-old k.g. they need him badly
actually the way its looking with the new-old k.g. they need him badly
Bosh is the most important componant in the Heat lineup who cannot be replaced with their current roster, but this does not mean he is more important than Wade...
Lets look at this way, imagine a team in the NFL that have two all world running backs, now they may be all world and very important to that team but even a scrub qb may be more important to that lineup, because the two running backs (even as great as they may be) can basically do the same things, but a qb can help spread the defense (depending on his skill set).
Bosh in that scenario wold be an above average qb, who can throw the ball down field occasionally, thus creating spacing for the rb's.
Good player but to me not worth 16-17 mil dollars good, for that price I'd take an Aaron Rogers or even a average qb with a good wr...
In the case of the Heat, I'd take a good center making 11 mil dollars and a pf making 7...
Lets look at this way, imagine a team in the NFL that have two all world running backs, now they may be all world and very important to that team but even a scrub qb may be more important to that lineup, because the two running backs (even as great as they may be) can basically do the same things, but a qb can help spread the defense (depending on his skill set).
Bosh in that scenario wold be an above average qb, who can throw the ball down field occasionally, thus creating spacing for the rb's.
Good player but to me not worth 16-17 mil dollars good, for that price I'd take an Aaron Rogers or even a average qb with a good wr...
In the case of the Heat, I'd take a good center making 11 mil dollars and a pf making 7...
Dwayne Wade for Joe Johnson. I'm for it. 
Dwayne Wade for Joe Johnson. I'm for it.
Nope aint gonna happen..
Bosh is usually sprawled out on the floor by himself while everybody else is at the other basket. Wade usually nails a player or uses them to break his fall. Look at those old heat games, the smallest dude on the floor is knocking the other team clean away from the basket and off the court into the first row.
What has happened is that Wade had a complete meltdown last night. Dude forgot how to play basketball for one night, but I think it has been happening since game 2. I am hoping he snaps out of it.
Also we live in a land of instant everything so it is easy to judge when you can see a reply a billion times and the media tries to create stories where there may not be any.
Fixing the Heat isn't that hard, matter of fact all they have to do is go the blue print the Bulls created with Pippen and Jordan...
That is grab as many big men as possible (they don't even have to be superstars or all that good, just good enough to play the position, be able to post, box out and rebound).
Get a power forward who can crash the boards, and play tough...
Next surround James and Wade with players who can drain the three point shots,
Finally, get a coach who knows how to unitize his talent.
That is grab as many big men as possible (they don't even have to be superstars or all that good, just good enough to play the position, be able to post, box out and rebound).
Get a power forward who can crash the boards, and play tough...
Next surround James and Wade with players who can drain the three point shots,
Finally, get a coach who knows how to unitize his talent.
Dwayne Wade for Joe Johnson. I'm for it.
The need better role players on the bench. The quality of the bench sucks. A 2 guard like wade can be replaced or better yet. Is not needed with on the team. Any average shooter that plays d and hits open shots will work. Lebron can't lose Bosh.
I dnt think hes more important, but just as important.. that squad needs all three to win or contend to win. People have always counted out bosh.. n so have i, but as shown he is needed! My thoughts r... They lookn as they may b gone.. mayb for them its time to go fishing!!
I agree the Spo is a little over his head.
Turiaf should be getting more minutes. The need to put him and Anthony at the power forward spot instead of center because they don't have to score. Fuck it. Start Turiaf and Anthony. At least you know those guys will give you energy.
Battier has been stinking it up.
It is too late to play Curry. He should have been getting regular minutes during the season. He can't get any better if he doesn't play.
What happened to Lebron in the post? He has barely gone into during the post season and has reverted back to his old habits even though he is playing well.
I agree with you about the permanent fix. They need players who can shoot and bang.
So one of the top 5 players can be easily replaced. Wow.
You make it sound easy.
1st with what money. Jerry never paid the luxury tax during the Jordan era with the Bulls.
I keep seeing people saying the Heat need to address their bench add talent and blah blah blah.
Again what quality big man are you going to find on the veteran's minimum??
There is a reason Eddy Curry was the key big man acquisition this summer.
Seems like you guys want the best of both worlds three superstars and deep bench.
As I said before if you think the Heat bench sucks now wait till 2014 rolls around
Shooting guards are easily replaced. Plus you can't deny wade is not the wade of old. He is replaceable. Bron and Bosh are not. At leadt in my opinion.
The Heat just needed a little youth. I blame Spo for not playing Curry throughout the season. He can't get better if he doesn't play.
A major problem with the Heat is that they have too many veteran's minimum player salary making too much.
Lay off the pipe. You don't replace a top 5 player. You replace guyslike the Shannon Brown's of the world.
with a team that is over the cap. there is only a few places you find youth.
the draft. (their draft position will have them picking up the type of players that can't contribute the way they want.
the d league. Which isn't always a guaranteed. Not every player from the d league is going to be Gerald Green.
This proves my point as long as the Heat salary cap is the way it is their depth options are limited.
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