Will the Lakers make the Playoffs???

xfactor

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Without a more talented player leading the way can Wobe Bryant carry the Lakers to the playoffs???

:confused:
 

Diamels

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[sarcasm]Man this is no biggie. we going to get Pippen and we going to be just fine[/sarcasm]
 

TimRock

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Yes, and a first round loss to the Jazz. Keep in mind, Vlad and Luke may not be back either. So they are basically playing without a real small forward. Why couldn't Kwame get hurt instead of Luke or Odom. :smh:

Also, too bad Aaron McKie and Shammond Williams just started to get real playing time. They are playing very well. Cook too. Kwame has to go. He can't catch the ball for shit. He fumbles every pass given to him. He also misses close range shots and dunks. and he travels damn near every time he touches the ball. The only thing we Lakers fans can hope for is that Bynum turns out to be as much of a threat as Shaq is/was.
 

SpiritualPorn

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TimRock said:
Yes, and a first round loss to the Jazz. Keep in mind, Vlad and Luke may not be back either. So they are basically playing without a real small forward. Why couldn't Kwame get hurt instead of Luke or Odom. :smh:

Also, too bad Aaron McKie and Shammond Williams just started to get real playing time. They are playing very well. Cook too. Kwame has to go. He can't catch the ball for shit. He fumbles every pass given to him. He also misses close range shots and dunks. and he travels damn near every time he touches the ball. The only thing we Lakers fans can hope for is that Bynum turns out to be as much of a threat as Shaq is/was.


I'll tell you this.....

The fans will very soon start calling for Kobe's head....

Lakers fans were hoodwinked, bamboozled,.

Trade Kobe and start over........That team is cursed.
 

cranrab

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SpiritualPorn said:
Trade Kobe and start over........That team is cursed.

that's what they should've done (by coach jackson's request) in 1999 and again twice in 2003-04.

i took a look at the numbers last night, and from the money angle alone it made better sense to keep shaquille o'neal and let tobe walk as a free agent. quite the OPPOSITE of what the fiction-based assumptions are...

from the injury angle, it also makes more sense to keep shaquille o'neal. at age 35 shaquille o'neal has missed 71 games since the trade. at age 27 lamar odom has missed 42 games. at age 24 kwame brown has missed 48 games. are they too old, too fat and too out of shape too?

of course, there's no point (is there?) in further debating which player is more productive and capable of building a franchise around (at any age).
 
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cranrab

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The fans will very soon start calling for Kobe's head.

nah, it'll never happen.

they've been lead around by the nose for far too long to ever suspect that the player they've been deifying could POSSIBLY be the root of their problems...

in 2000, glen rice HAD TO GO, even though he shot a blistering 42% from behind the arc IN THE PLAYOFFS on a way to a championship...

in 2003, robert horry was the scapegoat. sure, he shot a DISGUSTING 5% from behind the arc IN THE PLAYOFFS, but nobody mentions that he shot 50% from inside the arc IN THE PLAYOFFS. nobody mentions that robert horry only averaged an insignificant 3 shots per game from behind the arc either. and forget about that championship ring he earned in 2005.

in 2005 it was all the "other" fakers players' faults... even though chucky atkins, caron butler, lamar odom and chris mihm ALL went to the playoffs with different teams the season before...

in 2006 it was like a broken record... those "other" players were still the problem, even though some of the faces had changed.

in 2007 i find it EXTREMELY amusing that those same "other" players are getting blamed... only this time it's because the "other" players are injured.

paraphrasing fakers fan logic seen here on BGOL: "in 2005 and 2006 the "other" players weren't very good, so it's THEIR faults collectively that fakers weren't very good as a team."

paraphrasing fakers fan logic seen here on BGOL: "in 2007 the "other" players still aren't very good, AND they're not even playing because they're injured, so it's THEIR faults collectively that the fakers aren't very good as a team."

if fakers fans were familiar with the scientific method, they would isolate for the constant variable: tobe.
 

SpiritualPorn

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cranrab said:
nah, it'll never happen.

they've been lead around by the nose for far too long to ever suspect that the player they've been deifying could POSSIBLY be the root of their problems...

in 2000, glen rice HAD TO GO, even though he shot a blistering 42% from behind the arc IN THE PLAYOFFS on a way to a championship...

in 2003, robert horry was the scapegoat. sure, he shot a DISGUSTING 5% from behind the arc IN THE PLAYOFFS, but nobody mentions that he shot 50% from inside the arc IN THE PLAYOFFS. nobody mentions that robert horry only averaged an insignificant 3 shots per game from behind the arc either. and forget about that championship ring he earned in 2005.

in 2005 it was all the "other" fakers players' faults... even though chucky atkins, caron butler, lamar odom and chris mihm ALL went to the playoffs with different teams the season before...

in 2006 it was like a broken record... those "other" players were still the problem, even though some of the faces had changed.

in 2007 i find it EXTREMELY amusing that those same "other" players are getting blamed... only this time it's because the "other" players are injured.

paraphrasing fakers fan logic seen here on BGOL: "in 2005 and 2006 the "other" players weren't very good, so it's THEIR faults collectively that fakers weren't very good as a team."

paraphrasing fakers fan logic seen here on BGOL: "in 2007 the "other" players still aren't very good, AND they're not even playing because they're injured, so it's THEIR faults collectively that the fakers aren't very good as a team."

if fakers fans were familiar with the scientific method, they would isolate for the constant variable: tobe.


It seems their opponents have

From Last nights game:


Full Story of Kobe's 4th Qt and overtime no show

The Timberwolves outscored the Lakers 12-2 in the final overtime, with Smush Parker’s driving layup 1:30 into the period the only basket for the Lakers. Parker finished with 24 points, but missed three free throws in the first overtime that could have put the game out of reach.

And with Lamar Odom (labrum), Luke Walton (ankle) and Vladimir Radmanovic (shoulder) all out with injuries, the Timberwolves were finally able to wear down Bryant and the Lakers in 58 grueling minutes.

“We just contained everybody else,” Garnett said. “We knew he was going to take the bulk of the shots. You could tell by his demeanor.

“Once he did that, the other guys didn’t have much rhythm, so we took advantage of that.”

 

cranrab

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here's a very simple truth about basketball from ricky davis last night:

"That's how you play basketball -- guys finding each other and making plays for one another."

here's a second quote from KG last night that echoes the quote you posted:

"We knew he was going to go for the shots."

but let's look at these more interesting quotes.

tobe said this:

"We have to learn how to close these games out, especially defensively. We can't give guys open looks, no matter who it is. Blount's an excellent shooter; he made three straight '3's and got really hot. At the same time, you can't give guys wide-open looks because they might make it."

but young andrew bynum CORRECTLY threw it back in tobe's face, explaining exactly how those open looks evolved in the first place:

"(on Blount's three-pointers) "We had to help. Ricky Davis had deep penetration into the lane, then when he kicked it out all we could do was run out and put our hands up."

and i wonder who brian cook was referring to:

"I think we took too many outside shots instead of attacking the paint. "
 

Criptonite187

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SpiritualPorn said:
I'll tell you this.....

The fans will very soon start calling for Kobe's head....

Lakers fans were hoodwinked, bamboozled,.

Trade Kobe and start over........That team is cursed.


Shut The fuck Up U Dumbass
:smh:
 

cranrab

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what you had to see in the game

both tobe and coach jackson scapegoated william parker in the press last night (blaming the loss on missed FTs), but i wonder why these factors were glossed over?

who missed 17 FGAs, including 7 from behind the arc?

didn't tobe miss 2 FTAs also?

who was getting ripped by marko jaric in Q1?

who got housed by marko jaric and kevin garnett?

who had the team high in TOs for the fakers?

BUT THE HUGE FACTORS were lapses in FUNDAMENTAL BASKETBALL:

who fouled ricky davis to send him to the line at the end of regulation, allowing the timberwoves to tie the game and send it into OT?

who missed out their box-out assignment at the end of 1OT, allowing ricky davis to tip in a timberwolves miss that sent the game to 2OT?

who didn't score a single point in 2OT?
 

SpiritualPorn

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cranrab said:
here's a very simple truth about basketball from ricky davis last night:

"That's how you play basketball -- guys finding each other and making plays for one another."

here's a second quote from KG last night that echoes the quote you posted:

"We knew he was going to go for the shots."

but let's look at these more interesting quotes.

tobe said this:

"We have to learn how to close these games out, especially defensively. We can't give guys open looks, no matter who it is. Blount's an excellent shooter; he made three straight '3's and got really hot. At the same time, you can't give guys wide-open looks because they might make it."

but young andrew bynum CORRECTLY threw it back in tobe's face, explaining exactly how those open looks evolved in the first place:

"(on Blount's three-pointers) "We had to help. Ricky Davis had deep penetration into the lane, then when he kicked it out all we could do was run out and put our hands up."

and i wonder who brian cook was referring to:

"I think we took too many outside shots instead of attacking the paint. "


Never his fault...

We have to ........we must...................

13-30 Shooting........

What was the total breakdown....who was hot?

Who should have gotten those extra three point jacks..(3-10)?

I didn't see the game....just ESPNning right now.......

I notice no one mentions that Kobe might get suspended for yet another elbow......
 

cranrab

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SpiritualPorn said:
I notice no one mentions that Kobe might get suspended for yet another elbow......

that shit is plain disgusting... it's worse than karl malone driving to the goal with his knee up, it's worse than reggie miller kicking his legs out...

who in the HISTORY of basketball flails his/her arms out TO THE SIDE when shooting a jumpshot? that has got to be the queerest, lamest, and lowest class maneuver by an offensive player in the ENTIRE HISTORY of basketball...

shooters are taught "arms up together, arms down together" as part of their follow through routine... tobe's OUTWARD flailing arms falls well short of a cheap shot, but that action is by far one of the biggest punk bitch moves i have ever seen.

back to the topic of this thread. i know xfactor only created this thread as a jab at the armenian's post about the heat and shaquille o'neal, but if you take a look at the current standings, it would seem reasonable to say that the fakers have the 6th seed pretty well locked up.

it also looks like i will be wrong about a 50 win season for the fakers, but is 46-36 an unreasonable expectation?
 

SpiritualPorn

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Re: what you had to see in the game

cranrab said:
both tobe and coach jackson scapegoated william parker in the press last night (blaming the loss on missed FTs), but i wonder why these factors were glossed over?

who missed 17 FGAs, including 7 from behind the arc?

didn't tobe miss 2 FTAs also?

who was getting ripped by marko jaric in Q1?

who got housed by marko jaric and kevin garnett?

who had the team high in TOs for the fakers?

BUT THE HUGE FACTORS were lapses in FUNDAMENTAL BASKETBALL:

who fouled ricky davis to send him to the line at the end of regulation, allowing the timberwoves to tie the game and send it into OT?

who missed out their box-out assignment at the end of 1OT, allowing ricky davis to tip in a timberwolves miss that sent the game to 2OT?

who didn't score a single point in 2OT?


Well it wouldn't be Kobe....WOuld IT?

I see another first round exit........

Might even be a sweep this time..
 

SpiritualPorn

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cranrab said:
that shit is plain disgusting... it's worse than karl malone driving to the goal with his knee up, it's worse than reggie miller kicking his legs out...

who in the HISTORY of basketball flails his/her arms out TO THE SIDE when shooting a jumpshot? that has got to be the queerest, lamest, and lowest class maneuver by an offensive player in the ENTIRE HISTORY of basketball...

shooters are taught "arms up together, arms down together" as part of their follow through routine... tobe's OUTWARD flailing arms falls well short of a cheap shot, but that action is by far one of the biggest punk bitch moves i have ever seen.

back to the topic of this thread. i know xfactor only created this thread as a jab at the armenian's post about the heat and shaquille o'neal, but if you take a look at the current standings, it would seem reasonable to say that the fakers have the 6th seed pretty well locked up.

it also looks like i will be wrong about a 50 win season for the fakers, but is 46-36 an unreasonable expectation?


I wonder.....

They seem to be falling apart

Ho-Be might just say fuck it...go for the scoring title, and screw the season..


BTW....Ho-Be was on the BDSSP BRAGGING that his DAD taught him how to throw sneaky elbows........

BTW again....Duke vs. UNC....Intentional?
 

Spectrum

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SpiritualPorn said:
“We just contained everybody else,” Garnett said. “We knew he was going to take the bulk of the shots. You could tell by his demeanor.

“Once he did that, the other guys didn’t have much rhythm, so we took advantage of that.”


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

cranrab

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Re: Will the fakers make the Playoffs???

SpiritualPorn said:
What was the total breakdown

the total breakdown was laziness and lack of effort by tobe. pure and simple. if you get a chance to see it, or for those of you who watched, go back to the final 1:31 of regulation.

mark blount had already begun his 3 point barrage, but william parker hits 2 FTs and the fakers are up by 4 with only 1:31 to play. but william parker is to blame for the loss?

what happened next? tobe got roofed by marko fuckin' jaric and then like a baby immediately commits a retaliation PF AND STOPS THE CLOCK for the timberwolves. :58 left to play. note: tobe shot early in the shot clock, with 7 still on the clock.

what happened next? ricky davis penetrates (guess who was playing the matador D?), the fakers big men collapse to help, leaving mark blount open for another 3, and he sinks it. fakers still up by 1. :47 left to play

what happened next? tobe launches a completely unnecessary 3 (trying to be the hero) and proves once again he is one of the dumbest players to ever step on the wood. tobe shot early in the shot clock AGAIN, with 7 still on the clock. fakers up by 1, :30 left to play.

i know some moron capt-save-a-tobe out there is ready to jump up and say tobe was trying to get a 2 for 1, but on the road with a lead, LOGIC DICTATES YOU TAKE AN EASY 2.

*QUICK EXPLANATION* for those unfamiliar with the concept of a 2 for 1.

a 2 for 1 is a time/clock management concept whereby a team will try to squeeze out 2 quick possessions instead of only 1 long possession.

for example: if there are 35 seconds left to play, i can use most of my 24 seconds up and leave my opponent approximately 11 seconds to run a play.

OR i can get a quick shot up in 5 seconds, allow my opponent to use their 24 seconds, and still have approximately 6 seconds left to run another play. in this way, i have effectively traded 2 quick possessions for 1 regular one.

*BACK TO THE GAME*

william parker got the OFFENSIVE rebound but missed the putback. fakers call timeout, still ahead by 1, :27 to play. but it's his fault the fakers lost?

on the ensuing possession, kwame brown got roofed by marko fuckin' jaric and the timberwolves called time out. fakers still ahead by 1, :06 left to play

william parker steals the ball and immediately gets fouled. fakers still ahead by 1, :05 left to play. but it's his fault the fakers lost?

william parker makes 1 of 2 FTs and the fakers are ahead by 2, :05 left to play. but it's his fault the fakers lost? rather the opposite. had he not made the 1 FT, the fakers would have lost in regulation because of what happened next.

AS ANY COACH WILL TELL YOU, on an inbounds play, you NEVER give up the baseline corner. hell, after the wizards/cavaliers playoffs last season, ANY FAN WILL TELL YOU the exact same thing. so what does tobe do? he GIVES UP THE BASELINE CORNER to ricky davis, who penetrates to the rim. tobe left the ENTIRE FAKERS D exposed and poor kwame brown had to pick up the PF because of it.

those who missed the game can see video of some of the plays i've described here:

http://*******************/wmedia/nba/nbacom/recaps/recap_902_lalmin.asx

note tobe's position in relation to his assignment (ricky davis) in EVERY PLAY. how does a person play defense from behind his man?

edit: WTF??? how the hell you gonna censor that site? for those who want to see the clip, cut and paste, then type "bossDOTstreamosDOTcom" where the asterisks appear. of course, DOT = "."
 

SpiritualPorn

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Re: Will the fakers make the Playoffs???

cranrab said:
the total breakdown was laziness and lack of effort by tobe. pure and simple. if you get a chance to see it, or for those of you who watched, go back to the final 1:31 of regulation.

mark blount had already begun his 3 point barrage, but william parker hits 2 FTs and the fakers are up by 4 with only 1:31 to play. but william parker is to blame for the loss?

what happened next? tobe got roofed by marko fuckin' jaric and then like a baby immediately commits a retaliation PF AND STOPS THE CLOCK for the timberwolves. :58 left to play. note: tobe shot early in the shot clock, with 7 still on the clock.

what happened next? ricky davis penetrates (guess who was playing the matador D?), the fakers big men collapse to help, leaving mark blount open for another 3, and he sinks it. fakers still up by 1. :47 left to play

what happened next? tobe launches a completely unnecessary 3 (trying to be the hero) and proves once again he is one of the dumbest players to ever step on the wood. tobe shot early in the shot clock AGAIN, with 7 still on the clock. fakers up by 1, :30 left to play.

i know some moron capt-save-a-tobe out there is ready to jump up and say tobe was trying to get a 2 for 1, but on the road with a lead, LOGIC DICTATES YOU TAKE AN EASY 2.

*QUICK EXPLANATION* for those unfamiliar with the concept of a 2 for 1.

a 2 for 1 is a time/clock management concept whereby a team will try to squeeze out 2 quick possessions instead of only 1 long possession.

for example: if there are 35 seconds left to play, i can use most of my 24 seconds up and leave my opponent approximately 11 seconds to run a play.

OR i can get a quick shot up in 5 seconds, allow my opponent to use their 24 seconds, and still have approximately 6 seconds left to run another play. in this way, i have effectively traded 2 quick possessions for 1 regular one.

*BACK TO THE GAME*

william parker got the OFFENSIVE rebound but missed the putback. fakers call timeout, still ahead by 1, :27 to play. but it's his fault the fakers lost?

on the ensuing possession, kwame brown got roofed by marko fuckin' jaric and the timberwolves called time out. fakers still ahead by 1, :06 left to play

william parker steals the ball and immediately gets fouled. fakers still ahead by 1, :05 left to play. but it's his fault the fakers lost?

william parker makes 1 of 2 FTs and the fakers are ahead by 2, :05 left to play. but it's his fault the fakers lost? rather the opposite. had he not made the 1 FT, the fakers would have lost in regulation because of what happened next.

AS ANY COACH WILL TELL YOU, on an inbounds play, you NEVER give up the baseline corner. hell, after the wizards/cavaliers playoffs last season, ANY FAN WILL TELL YOU the exact same thing. so what does tobe do? he GIVES UP THE BASELINE CORNER to ricky davis, who penetrates to the rim. tobe left the ENTIRE FAKERS D exposed and poor kwame brown had to pick up the PF because of it.

those who missed the game can see video of some of the plays i've described here:

http://*******************/wmedia/nba/nbacom/recaps/recap_902_lalmin.asx

note tobe's position in relation to his assignment (ricky davis) in EVERY PLAY. how does a person play defense from behind his man?

edit: WTF??? how the hell you gonna censor that site? for those who want to see the clip, cut and paste, then type "bossDOTstreamosDOTcom" where the asterisks appear. of course, DOT = "."


Thanks

This is the kind of breakdown I was needing.....

The way the press tells it it would seem as if Smush missed a free throw and caused a loss ala Marbury....

Why does Phil keep kissing Kobe's ass?

Is there some other off season plan in the works?
 

cranrab

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Re: Will the fakers make the Playoffs???

i'm a little busy right now, but PM me later tonight and i'll tell you what's been going on inside the fakers camp and why the wheels seem to have fallen off the wagon.
 

SpiritualPorn

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Re: Will the fakers make the Playoffs???

cranrab said:
i'm a little busy right now, but PM me later tonight and i'll tell you what's been going on inside the fakers camp and why the wheels seem to have fallen off the wagon.

No problem

Something is going on for sure!!!!!!
 

Spectrum

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SpiritualPorn said:
I notice no one mentions that Kobe might get suspended for yet another elbow......
http://www.nba.com/news/kobe_070307.html


NEW YORK, March 7, 2007 – Kobe Bryant of the Los Angeles Lakers has been suspended one game without pay for striking Minnesota Timberwolves guard Marko Jaric in the face, it was announced today by Stu Jackson, NBA Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations.

The incident occurred last night with 58.7 remaining in the fourth period of the Lakers 117-107 (2OT) loss to the Timberwolves at Target Center. Bryant will serve his suspension tonight when the Lakers play the Milwaukee Bucks at Bradley Center.
 

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Re: Will the fakers make the Playoffs???

cranrab said:
i'm a little busy right now, but PM me later tonight and i'll tell you what's been going on inside the fakers camp and why the wheels seem to have fallen off the wagon.
yeah this is what I need to know.
 

SpiritualPorn

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Criptonite187 said:

Shut The fuck Up U Dumbass
:smh:

I didn't even see this........

Do you have a more intelligent way to express your points?

Or is that too high a bar.......

Tim Rock and I have gone back and forth and have yet to get into name calling.........

Did I hurt you feelings speaking the truth?

Even better................Is This you again TOBE>>?.....
 

Spectrum

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SpiritualPorn said:
Cran told me some NBA players check in here once in a while....

I think we are being heard :lol: :lol: :lol:

That comment by Garnet is hilarious. Because I made the point a couple of years ago when the Lakers lost 4 straight to the Pistons to lose in the Finals. Shaq was DOMINATING the Pistons. I mean literally..we couldnt do ANYTHING with Shaq... he was making Ben Wallace look his bitch..fade aways, drop steps and up, posterizing dunks. He was making the perfect passes when double and triple teams came. When the offense went through Shaq is always most tough to watch. I thought we would get swept. Then Larry Brown instituted a Brilliant strategy that only a certain type of player would fall for.

HE constructed the defensive set to allow Kobe to get his hands on the ball and take shots.
They would literally step back just to get him to take shots. The guards would open up lanes for him to drive...even if they were easy buckets because they knew he would fall for the bait. Kobe went on to pull of a hijacking that would make Bin Laden himself shed a tear from pride.

Then what did Kobe go on to do for the rest of the series...the most embarrassing performance I have ever seen in the history of team sports. He COMPLETELY sabotaged the Laker offense. He did this so effectively and completely, that even as a Piston fun I was pissed to see ONE player deny his entire team out of pure selfishness. That series would be the last that Shaq would ever play in a Laker uniform. The Lakers then went on to get SWEPT on the next 4 games. To this day, I do not understand why Shaq did not grab him by the fucking throat and put him in check to save the series.

I swear I was watching that series in Detroit, even as a Pistons fan, and Kobe had me FURIOUS. I just found it hard to believe that a player would do something like that. From that point on, I began to really look at his game and question his basketball IQ.

Does anyone remember that Series
 

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I only remember 1 game where Shaq was Shaq and Kobe was gunning. The problem was, he only did it once. The only game they won was because of Kobe. The Lakers were without a power forward for that series. Plus Shaq was wore down from fighting through the much tougher western conference.

Check Shaq's stats in the three previous finals, and this one and tell me what's what? Hell, check the stats from last year. If it weren't for Wade steppin up, and Dirk being a euro bitch, the warmth would have been swept. :smh: :smh:
 

cranrab

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Re: Will the fakers make the Playoffs???

LordSinister said:
I only remember 1 game where Shaq was Shaq and Kobe was gunning. The problem was, he only did it once. The only game they won was because of Kobe.

welcome to the SPORTS board, LS.

i'm sorry to say you have a faulty memory.

game 1 - LOSS

tobe: 10-27 :puke: 37%
shaq: 13-16

game 2 - WIN

tobe: 14-27
shaq: 10-20

game 3 - LOSS

tobe: 4-13 :puke: 31%
shaq: 7-14

game 4: LOSS

tobe: 8-25 :puke: 32%
shaq: 16-21

game 5: LOSS

tobe: 7-21 :puke: 33%
shaq: 7-13

so EVEN IF YOU SAY TOBE WON GAME 2 BY CHUCKING, the rest of the games he was putrid. and given how DOMINANT shaquille o'neal was in that series, there's NO excuse for tobe to be chucking those numbers of bricks.

LordSinister said:
Check Shaq's stats in the three previous finals, and this one and tell me what's what?

been done. by me. on this board. in playoffs years where the shaquille o'neals FGAs were more than or approximately the same as tobe's, fakers WON gold. in playoffs years where tobe's FGAs were significantly more than shaquille o'neals, fakers went home empty handed.
 

Spectrum

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Re: Will the fakers make the Playoffs???

Cran,

According to your stats, Shaq shot over 50 percent EVERY game. Doesnt common sense dictate that you give a man that starts the series 13-17(77 percent) more touches. In two of these games Kobe had more MISSES than Shaq had ATTEMPTS..and the other games it was still close to that type of lopsided shooting.
 

cranrab

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Re: Will the fakers make the Playoffs???

for LS.

same sad story for fakers fans the year prior to the 2004 NBA FINALS with detroit. in 2003, san antonio gave the fakers the boot because of tobe's chucking.

game 1 - LOSS

tobe: 16-38 :eek: :puke:
shaq: 10-20

game 2 - LOSS

tobe: 9-24 :puke: 38%
shaq: 10-14

game 3 - WIN

tobe: 10-23
shaq: 10-16

game 4 - WIN

tobe: 10-24
shaq: 6-17 35% :puke:

game 5 - LOSS

tobe: 15-31 :eek:
shaq: 8-14

game 6 - LOSS (blowout by 28)

tobe: 9-19
shaq: 13-21

so again, LS, the question is what reason would tobe have to shoot such a DETRIMENTAL volume of shots when shaquille o'neal was clearly DOMINATING the opponent?

NONE. especially given the fact that tobe was shooting below his regular season average.
 

cranrab

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Re: Will the fakers make the Playoffs???

eewwll said:
Shaq shot over 50 percent EVERY game.

not surprising. shaquille o'neal averaged a 58% or 59% FG% that season.

eewwll said:
Doesnt common sense dictate that you give a man that starts the series 13-17(77 percent) more touches.

semantics here. be careful not to interchange touches with FGAs. shaquille o'neal may very well have had sufficient touches; the problem is the ball never came back out the black hole once it left his hands and found it's way to the garden weasel.

eewwll said:
In two of these games Kobe had more MISSES than Shaq had ATTEMPTS..and the other games it was still close to that type of lopsided shooting.

and hence, it should come as no surprise that the fakers were doomed.

i wish HNIC still had the posts from the SPORTS board that season. i did a post game breakdown after the games. it'd be easier to just provide the link. :(
 
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Again, in those stats. In 3 of the 4 losses..Kobe had more MISSES that Shaq even had in ATTEMPTS :smh: :smh: ... Shaq shoots over 50 percent :yes: :yes: This is almost too easy. How could people ever place the blame on Shaq out in LA..this should be all too obvious
 

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cranrab said:
semantics here. be careful not to interchange touches with FGAs. shaquille o'neal may very well have had sufficient touches; the probably is the ball never came back out the black hole once it left his hands and found it's way to the garden weasel.

Very true and significant interchange of terms..especially considering the nature of the triangle offense.. he would get the initial TOUCH.. but the ball would never swing back around to got a shot attempt off...
 
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