Whycome theres no more big men crooners and blind musical geniuses?

Because music isn't just about the music anymore it's about selling sex and youth not talent and artistry.

If your a fat crooner they'll make you lose weight so they can market you better as a sex symbol.

When people wanna fuck you they buy whatever you tell them to.

No blind singers because musicians today ain't learning piano they learning to rap and rhyme.

Two words:

"Music Videos"

They changed the visual standard for artists' physicality. Before videos, people were more locked into the music than what someone looked like. Sometime around 1984, the release of a song's video became as big of a deal as the release of the single itself.

Before the music video age began, relatively plain sistas like Patti Labelle (with the group Labelle), Jennifer Holiday, Aretha Franklin, Roberta Flack and Evelyn "Champagne" King were able to have monster hits. Same goes for blind people and fat folk.

Nowadays, for the most part, artists have to look like models. If Evelyn "Champagne" King came out today for the first time, she wouldn't make it based on her not fitting the current beauty standard for female superstar singers.

You can't even hear men who sing in the lower octaves anymore. All these dude sound like auto tuned punks.

:bravo::bravo::bravo:

Video killed the radio star used to be a popular cliche.

Video also killed the singer/songwriter. Making your appearance greater than your sound

Lastly no one wants to hear R&B from black people anymore. Adele,Sam Smith,Justin Timberlake,Robin Thicke,Jesse J,etc etc etc
 
Lastly no one wants to hear R&B from black people anymore. Adele,Sam Smith,Justin Timberlake,Robin Thicke,Jesse J,etc etc etc
black people do , white people listen to those cacs u posted but the avergae black person aint really checking them out, u can fake r&b only for so long till it gets boring cos u aint really R&B n then u gotta go get that true SOUL , all these cacs artist did get 1 or 2 spins but it wore out quickly for me, i dont care what cacs consider R&B , they dont have a say in R&B , they can listen to who their psyche wants but i dont care for their R&B mostly, they can have their Elvis, u just cant bring him around real true SOUL folks
 

As a singer myself, it's about spins. We can't get them...not Black artists anyway. Stephanie Mills said it right, "they want R&B but they don't want it from us."

The record business is about money now, and they aren't putting it behind any of the type of artists you or I grew up listening to.

Shit, if Bobby Caldwell was coming up in today's days of music he'd make a killing


If Stephanie felt the need to say that then it just shows how screwed up the top brass in the music industry have become. That's like wanting Chinese food and going to a Dairy Queen to get it.

You can study and copy our styles but you'll never be able to recreate what comes naturally for us. Just look at James Brown's music how he would throw in an extra note or chord. It worked for him and in spite of the industry beliefs the people bought his music. The same can be said about Ray Charles yet his music sold and not just to black people. Real R&B music is from the heart, that's something you just can't teach.

The same R&B artist and groups the music industry has no time for are still packing casinos. The demand for good R&B music by many still exist today. Maybe not by the younger crowd, maybe not by the industry but the demand is there.

History shows something is wrong within this country when gifted artist must leave their place of birth and to live better in Europe. We've seen it happen in jazz, the blues and R&B. Seems the land of opportunity only applies to whites and those willing to sell their souls and integrity.
 
we always talk about could artists today make it back then...reverse it..

could stevie wonder make it today? or any of the people I listed considering what you said?

Well I'm sure Stevie Wonder would make it. I believe many would make it but I'm talking about those who put in lets say 10+ years actively releasing music. Not the one or two hit artist. I say they would make it as long as they had the proper managers, not those crooks they allowed to ruin their careers.
 
There have always been these cookie cutter artists (corporate pop artists geared to producing generic music) in the music industry. The artists that many of us worship today are products of their times from the 60's- 80's.
 
I was just talking with my daughter yesterday about how no one has a band anymore. Playing instruments.

I think this might all be the same side of the coin...there's no innovation in the music anymore. Everyone can get a laptop and say they a producer, or write five words on a napkin and say they a rapper. What really pissed me off recently is Christina Aguilara's new video (however you spell her name). That joint sound so basic, and the whole time in my head I'm going "But she can sing!"


Folks standards are miraculously low.
 
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