Why the Pre-Med Student Who Found Prince Dead Could Face Drug Charges

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If its posted I will delete it. As a person who takes pain meds I was really hoping that Prince didn't die from opiods. I wanted to chime in on my thought but Ill first see if another thread has been made because I didn't see one.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/cele...-drug-charges/ar-BBsGYTn?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

Andrew Kornfeld, the son of the California addiction specialist who was hired to treat Prince, could face legal charges for possessing a prescription drug used to help kick opiate addiction, a top Minnesota criminal defense attorney tells PEOPLE.

Kornfeld was at Prince's Paisley Park estate when the singer was found dead in an elevator. The pre-med student – who was sent to Minnesota by his father, Dr. Howard Kornfeld, to speak with Prince about addiction to prescription painkillers – made the 911 call to authorities, according to the Kornfeld family's attorney.

Kornfeld was on the scene in his capacity as a consultant for his father's California outpatient addiction clinic Recovery Without Walls. Recovery Without Walls had been hired to Prince's representative to begin emergency treatment on the star of prescription drug addiction, lawyer William Mauzy said during a press conference on Wednesday.

Kornfeld was carrying a starter dose of Suboxone, a drug with buprenorphine, which is used to treat opiate addiction, Mauzy said. The drug is considered a controlled substance in Minnesota – similar to narcotics like Percocet.

The drugs were taken into possession by the Carver County Sheriff's office after Kornfeld found Prince dead and called 911, Mauzy said. Kornfeld should be granted "statutory immunity" for possessing the Suboxone without a prescription under Minnesota's Good Samaritan law, the attorney said.

Eric Nelson, a partner at Halberg Criminal Defense, tells PEOPLE, however that the Good Samaritan law doesn't protect Kornfeld from drug charges.

What is the Good Samaritan law?

In Minnesota, the Good Samaritan law says that a person who gives aid at the scene of an emergency is not liable for civil damages in any resulting case.

"What the statute says is, that if you're at an emergency and you know that another person is seriously injured to the extent that you're able to help without injuring yourself or another person, you have to give reasonable assistance to the person," Nelson explains.

Nelson says that by calling 911, Kornfeld did right by the Good Samaritan law. However, while "the Good Samaritan Law can be a defense in certain cases, Nelson believes it would not protect Kornfeld from criminal charges in this case because he had the drugs prior to Prince's death.

What charges could he face?

Possessing Schedule III controlled substances, like Suboxone, without a prescription is punishable by up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

Kornfeld never intended to administer the drugs to Prince, his lawyer, Mauzy, said during Wednesday's press conference, and was merely transporting it to a Minnesota doctor who Prince was scheduled to meet with on April 21 – the day he was found dead.

Moving the drugs across state lines – from California to Minnesota – however, invokes federal jurisdiction, Nelson says, and could lead to further legal drama.

The Drug Enforcement Administration and the U.S. Attorney's Office have already confirmed that they are involved the case and helping local authorities.

Will Minnesota pursue charges?

Nelson tells PEOPLE that while he believes Kornfeld violated the law, his lifesaving intentions could "give him a pass." He thinks, however, that "it would be as likely... that they will charge him because of the circumstances. At least in the state court level."

"You have one of this state's most beloved, iconic citizens. You have intense media scrutiny on a global level. You've got all of the makings sort of of a Lifetime movie here," Nelson explains. "I think, knowing the people in the Carver County Attorney's Office, that they are going to tread lightly. They are going to be extremely cautious and very thorough in their investigation because they know that the world is watching."

The attorney explains that he thinks if Kornfeld is charged, he should argue that carrying the drugs was "necessary," because it was an attempt to save Prince's life.

"This is an exceptionally difficult, if not impossible, standard to meet," he notes. "In order to successfully claim the necessity defense, there has to be no other reasonable alternative. Being in an urban area, where the police can be easily summonsed, and were in fact called, would instantly negate any such claim. In addition, his possession of the drug was not 'necessary' to the life saving efforts administered," Nelson says.

He adds, "I have represented many 'normal' people who have been accused of possessing [Suboxone] when their intent is merely to attempt to quit their use of opiates. Thus, despite their 'good intentions' they run afoul of the law















The drugs were taken into possession by the Carver County Sheriff's office after Kornfeld found Prince dead and called 911, Mauzy said. Kornfeld should be granted "statutory immunity" for possessing the Suboxone without a prescription under Minnesota's Good Samaritan law, the attorney said.

Eric Nelson, a partner at Halberg Criminal Defense, tells PEOPLE, however that the Good Samaritan law doesn't protect Kornfeld from drug charges.

What is the Good Samaritan law?

In Minnesota, the Good Samaritan law says that a person who gives aid at the scene of an emergency is not liable for civil damages in any resulting case.

"What the statute says is, that if you're at an emergency and you know that another person is seriously injured to the extent that you're able to help without injuring yourself or another person, you have to give reasonable assistance to the person," Nelson explains.

Nelson says that by calling 911, Kornfeld did right by the Good Samaritan law. However, while "the Good Samaritan Law can be a defense in certain cases, Nelson believes it would not protect Kornfeld from criminal charges in this case because he had the drugs prior to Prince's death.

What charges could he face?

Possessing Schedule III controlled substances, like Suboxone, without a prescription is punishable by up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

Kornfeld never intended to administer the drugs to Prince, his lawyer, Mauzy, said during Wednesday's press conference, and was merely transporting it to a Minnesota doctor who Prince was scheduled to meet with on April 21 – the day he was found dead.

Moving the drugs across state lines – from California to Minnesota – however, invokes federal jurisdiction, Nelson says, and could lead to further legal drama.

The Drug Enforcement Administration and the U.S. Attorney's Office have already confirmed that they are involved the case and helping local authorities.

Will Minnesota pursue charges?

Nelson tells PEOPLE that while he believes Kornfeld violated the law, his lifesaving intentions could "give him a pass." He thinks, however, that "it would be as likely... that they will charge him because of the circumstances. At least in the state court level."

"You have one of this state's most beloved, iconic citizens. You have intense media scrutiny on a global level. You've got all of the makings sort of of a Lifetime movie here," Nelson explains. "I think, knowing the people in the Carver County Attorney's Office, that they are going to tread lightly. They are going to be extremely cautious and very thorough in their investigation because they know that the world is watching."

The attorney explains that he thinks if Kornfeld is charged, he should argue that carrying the drugs was "necessary," because it was an attempt to save Prince's life.

"This is an exceptionally difficult, if not impossible, standard to meet," he notes. "In order to successfully claim the necessity defense, there has to be no other reasonable alternative. Being in an urban area, where the police can be easily summonsed, and were in fact called, would instantly negate any such claim. In addition, his possession of the drug was not 'necessary' to the life saving efforts administered," Nelson says.

He adds, "I have represented many 'normal' people who have been accused of possessing [Suboxone] when their intent is merely to attempt to quit their use of opiates. Thus, despite their 'good intentions' they run afoul of the law."
 
kornfeld sounds like he jewish..

but he look like an arab..

well I been to isreal and let me tell you, some of the jews you swear

were arabs was isreali and some of the arabs you swear were jews,

were die hard arabs....

shit is crazy..... but I cant tell if this kornfeld guy is jewish, arab or puerto rican..
 
kornfeld sounds like he jewish..

but he look like an arab..

well I been to isreal and let me tell you, some of the jews you swear

were arabs was isreali and some of the arabs you swear were jews,

were die hard arabs....

shit is crazy..... but I cant tell if this kornfeld guy is jewish, arab or puerto rican..

You've been to Israel? What is it like for black's there, I read they treat the black Jews there like shit.
 
This guy is an Arab. Arab is not a religeon. You can be an Arab Jew. Him and his father are from the Bay Area. I really don't know how this is their fault. They weren't the ones prescribing .
 
Suboxone is the shit that had Artie Lange trying to one himself. Robin Williams too.
Relapse leading to OD = methadone
Suicide = suboxone
Mofos hire people knowing they are on some bullshit. If you tell your assistant to hire a spiritual advisor and Jesse Ventura shows up with his government conspiracy and his tinfoil hat *or* you need a relaxation coach and some chick shows up with big fake tits under a marijuana leaf wife beater you know that mofo did that shit for his own voyeuristic enjoyment.
 
This guy is an Arab. Arab is not a religeon. You can be an Arab Jew. Him and his father are from the Bay Area. I really don't know how this is their fault. They weren't the ones prescribing .

No doubt Truth. I really hope this guy doesn't get prosecuted. IMO it would be different if he had opioids on him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-addiction-report_us_572a553fe4b096e9f0902865


May 4 (Reuters) - Music legend Prince died one day before he was scheduled to meet a doctor who specializes in addiction treatment for a “life-saving mission,” the doctor’s lawyer said at a news conference on Wednesday.

California doctor Howard Kornfeld was first contacted by Prince representatives on April 20, one day before the singer’s body was discovered at his home, attorney William Mauzy told reporters.

“Dr. Kornfeld felt that his mission was a life-saving mission,” Mauzy said.

The news came shortly before federal authorities, including the Drug Enforcement Administration, announced they were joining the investigation into Prince’s death.

The cause of death remains undetermined, and it could be weeks before autopsy results are released. Police have said they found no signs of suicide or obvious trauma.

Kornfeld, who runs Recovery Without Walls, a clinic in Mill Valley, California, planned to fly to Minnesota to meet with Prince on April 22, Mauzy said. In the meantime, his son, Andrew Kornfeld, a staff member at his clinic, traveled to Minnesota on April 21 for an initial discussion.

When Andrew Kornfeld arrived at Paisley Park, the home-studio complex Prince owned in a Minneapolis suburb, the singer was not available, Mauzy said. A staff member found the artist unconscious in an elevator, and Kornfeld called 911.

Prescription opioid medication was found at the scene, according to a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation but not authorized to speak publicly.

Mauzy confirmed Andrew Kornfeld had opioid medication used to treat pain and addiction in his backpack, but emphasized that no drugs were given to Prince by the doctor or his son.

It was not immediately clear whether Kornfeld’s drugs were the same medication the law enforcement source said was found at the scene.

In a statement, the U.S. Attorney’s office in Minnesota said it would join the Carver County Sheriff’s ongoing probe into Prince’s death.

“The DEA and U.S. Attorney’s office are able to augment this local investigation with federal resources and expertise about prescription drug diversion,” the office said.

Mauzy expressed concern that Andrew Kornfeld could face charges, but said he believes he would have immunity with regard to the medication in his backpack under a Good Samaritan 911 law. The lawyer did not elaborate further on possible charges.

Andrew Kornfeld was interviewed by investigators from the sheriff’s office on April 21 and returned to California that night, Mauzy said.

Howard Kornfeld’s clinic specializes in medical treatment for chronic pain and drug and alcohol addiction, according to its website.

“Dr. Kornfeld was never able to meet Prince, never talked to Prince, and was sadly not able to arrive in time to help Prince,” Mauzy said.

Representatives for the late singer did not immediately respond to a request for comment. (Additional reporting by Alex Dobuzinskis and Joseph Ax; Editing by Andrew Hay and Sandra Maler)
 
Suboxone is the shit that had Artie Lange trying to one himself. Robin Williams too.
Relapse leading to OD = methadone
Suicide = suboxone
Mofos hire people knowing they are on some bullshit. If you tell your assistant to hire a spiritual advisor and Jesse Ventura shows up with his government conspiracy and his tinfoil hat *or* you need a relaxation coach and some chick shows up with big fake tits under a marijuana leaf wife beater you know that mofo did that shit for his own voyeuristic enjoyment.

I once had a doc who fired me as a patient bec he said I refused injections so he wasn't making any money from me. He sent me to another pain specialist and the doc had an attitude and tried to get me on Suboxne I was like naw I'm good and left. Went cold turkey while being on 100mgs of Oxycontin!!!!!!!!!!!! WRONG THING TO DO! I FELT LIKE I WAS GOING TO DIE. Now I've taken myself off the Fentanyl patch and reduced my Ox. Here's the thing. Once I changed my diet and stopped eating gluten based foods my pain has reduced drastically. I'm still trying to get completely of Ox but I need to have my pain stimulator changed to a different company to reach more areas of my body before I can do that.

Opioids are a blessing and a curse. I wish that doctors would inform their patients of other ways to reduce pain. So many times I see people with patches hanging off their skin and eventually get a stronger dosage because they feel their pain is not being eliminated properly. Its not that its because they need IV tape to secure it properly to their skin OR change over to the company I used because its almost like a tacky glue consistency and it sticks without tape. But if you don't know then your not going to change the patch.

Is ignorance an excuse in the age of the internet? Perhaps for older chronic pain suffers, or those who are mentally challenged maybe! But not the rest. JMO
 
I worked with a pain management doctor that prescribed suboxone...The thing is, that out here in Texas, you have to pee in a cup and get tested for the drugs in your system including the suboxone to make sure you are compliant. The crazy thing is that 99.9% of the patients were white. He would write methadone and oxy for the minorities. White guys would be coming in with their work uniforms on. You would never know they are on that shit unless you know the signs such as persistent belching...
 
I worked with a pain management doctor that prescribed suboxone...The thing is, that out here in Texas, you have to pee in a cup and get tested for the drugs in your system including the suboxone to make sure you are compliant. The crazy thing is that 99.9% of the patients were white. He would write methadone and oxy for the minorities. White guys would be coming in with their work uniforms on. You would never know they are on that shit unless you know the signs such as persistent belching...


I live in Texas to. I get tested every month. My old PA told me that because I always come up correct with having the drugs in my system that I'm on a tier that I don't have to get tested if for some reason they run out of test. Too many side effects for me personally to want to continue taking them forever. I personally didn't want the subox in my medical records is why I refused it. I'm "dependent" on the drugs but not addicted. The thing is the body itself says other wise. Lowering your dosage is not different than a person who is addicted them. You go through withdrawals and its so frustrating because you feel like a fiend. Be that as it may I personally have had 3 pain stimulators implanted over the last several years trying to get off the meds completely.

In Prince case maybe his dependence turned to addiction and he was embarrassed to seek help IDK. I feel that if he died from an overdose it was accidental. We don't know if he had any other meds in his system. I hope to God he wasn't on Fentanyl like I was because that shit can creep up and kill you so smoothly that you don't even see it coming.
 
seems to be two drug scenes in operation, the street trap and the pharmacy/private doctor trap.
both are murdering motherfuckers outchea!
 
dam...wrong place wrong time...

somebody not telling all they know...

let me get in my patient bear sitting position...
 
seems to be two drug scenes in operation, the street trap and the pharmacy/private doctor trap.
both are murdering motherfuckers outchea!


Yea, their are some legit docs out there but for the most part I feel they don't educate patients on how to explore other options for pain relief. like spinal cord stimulators and getting checked for food allergies. Yeah it sounds weird but food plays a major role in certain aspects of pain.
That's another topic all together I guess.
 
Yea, their are some legit docs out there but for the most part I feel they don't educate patients on how to explore other options for pain relief. like spinal cord stimulators and getting checked for food allergies. Yeah it sounds weird but food plays a major role in certain aspects of pain.
That's another topic all together I guess.
Very good point, bro. Alternative treatments could indeed spare some people the complications with drugs.
 
Very good point, bro. Alternative treatments could indeed spare some people the complications with drugs.

Ten, its crazy how much changing your lifestyle makes so much of a difference. The side effects alone I suffered with were enough for me to seek alternatives.
 
Ten, its crazy how much changing your lifestyle makes so much of a difference. The side effects alone I suffered with were enough for me to seek alternatives.
I hear that, we take conventional methods for granted as the all and all, often forgetting there may be other more natural
alternatives. Very interesting, I'm glad you have reminded us of this, it's food for thought, my friend.
 
I hear that, we take conventional methods for granted as the all and all, often forgetting there may be other more natural
alternatives. Very interesting, I'm glad you have reminded us of this, it's food for thought, my friend.


Thanks Ten. If I can be of any help to anyone on the board who suffers from chronic pain please let me know.
 
I remember when he first died, you would get cursed the hell out for even mentioning Prince was fucked up in some way. Funny how people create heros solely on the strength of their gift, not knowing the person personally. More and more we are hearing about Princes 'dark' side... And more and more you start seeing the Dudes who were doing the most yapping lurking in these threads but not saying shit else because they feel stupid... We lost an amazingly talented Dude, but talented people can be fucked up too... :hmm:
 
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I remember when he first died, you would get cursed the hell out for even mentioning Prince was fucked up in some way. Funny how people create heros solely on the strength of their gift, not knowing the person personally. More and more we are hearing about Princes 'dark' side... And more and more you start seeing the Dude who were doing the most yapping lurking in these threads but not saying shit else because they feel stupid... We lost an amazingly talented Dude, but talented people can be fucked up too... :hmm:
I guess it's my upbringing but I never put an athlete or a celebrity on a pedestal unless we are discussing their talent.

TV, movies and media transform people into God's to the weak and gullable.

Celeb's are just people with a talent.

Respect and honor their work but do not ever think that you know these people because you don't!
 
I remember when he first died, you would get cursed the hell out for even mentioning Prince was fucked up in some way. Funny how people create heros solely on the strength of their gift, not knowing the person personally. More and more we are hearing about Princes 'dark' side... And more and more you start seeing the Dudes who were doing the most yapping lurking in these threads but not saying shit else because they feel stupid... We lost an amazingly talented Dude, but talented people can be fucked up too... :hmm:[/QUOTE

IIWIS I know this may be a little of topic but what is your view on lets say R Kelly? After finding out what he did, did it mak you stop listening to his music? Or did you separate his personal life from his music? I was just curious my brother.
 
Yes I was being serious.
If you look at all the shit that led up to his death...the flu symptoms...etc

"flu like symptoms" = "he had aids"? Every single piece of information that has come out before and after his death indicates that the pain medication and possible addition to them, played some role in his death.

Did you all forget what it looks like to die from aids related complications? You ain't up on your feet doing riding bikes and performing.
 
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