Why No School Should Be Named After Booker T. Washington

With all due respect, W.E.B. Dubois and Booker T already had their say in this matter and I agree that they should have done both--training in trades to build wealth and intellectual education. Given the rampant segregation of the times, multitudes of black entrepreneurs and tradesmen came out of Booker T's efforts. I'm a believer. Plus, what's that tat this bougie bish got on her shoulder?
 
Plus, what's that tat this bougie bish got on her shoulder?
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both--training in trades to build wealth and intellectual education
Right because one hand would help wash the other eventually but most southern blacks ditched land that was rightfully theirs to head to seperated city for jobs paying them less than white men,foreingers and even white women.Many got educations and if they didn't start their own,they were jobless.....and as time passed one hand forgot to let the other hand what it was doing.
 
In Search of Purity: Popular Eugenics & Racial Uplift Among New Negroes 1915-1935
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“In Search of Purity: Eugenics and Racial Uplift among New Negroes, 1915-1935” is a dissertation that examines the reinterpretation of eugenic theories by Black scholars, who helped integrate the science into a social movement for racial uplift. Areas of analyses include: The Talented Tenth, links between ideas about social degeneracy and physical hygiene, eugenics courses and professors at Howard University, hereditarian, and colorism. Guiding principles of African American-led eugenic theory are examined alongside the fading imagery of the Old Negro that consisted of stereotypes scattered throughout plantation fiction, Blackface minstrelsy, vaudeville, and Darwinism. Specifically, terms like germ plasm (negative characteristics transmitted through genes through continual selection, unchanged, from one generation to the next), and racial hygiene (a public health platform designed to eliminate, among other ailments, venereal disease and promote healthy reproduction within a race) are analyzed in their relation to popular discourses about Black cleanliness that included “moral fitness” and intellectual ineptness. Ideologies that intrinsically tied Blackness to social degeneracy and criminality, as well as terms like full-blood and mulatto, are also examined. Links between standards of beauty, desirability, and marriage-worthiness in relation to those ideas are also critiqued. Of particular interest is the impact of racial hygiene discourses on African-American advertising through the promotion of products to lighten skin and straighten hair in order to eliminate noticeable signs of racial inferiority.
 
I hate how cavalier and indifferent some of us are when it comes to speaking on those who came before us.

We have have the luxury of viewing their actions through our eyes which have been fortunate enough to not witness or experience the atrocities they have.

I have no problem with acknowledging their faults and taking steps to not make the same mistakes but when we start to talk about them as this sister is in this video I can't respect that.

That type of vitriol should be directed towards individuals like Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson who have no excuse for who they've become.
 
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I hate how cavalier and indifferent some of us are when it comes to speaking on those who came before us.

We have have the luxury of viewing their actions through our eyes which have been fortunate enough to not witness or experience the atrocities they have.

I have no problem with acknowledging their faults and taking steps to not make the same mistakes but when we start to talk about them as this sister is in this video I can't respect that.

That type of vitriol should be directed towards individuals like Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson who have no excuse for who they've become.
Bruh. Well put.

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I hate how cavalier and indifferent some of us are when it comes to speaking on those who came before us.

We have have the luxury of viewing their actions through our eyes which have been fortunate enough to not witness or experience the atrocities they have.

I have no problem with acknowledging their faults and taking steps to not make the same mistakes but when we start to talk about them as this sister is in this video I can't respect that.

That type of vitriol should be directed towards individuals like Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson who have no excuse for who they've become.
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Did you know who was inspired by and greatly admired Booker T. Washington? MARCUS GARVEY, he loved Booker T. Washington's message of "do for self."

& that woman in that video never mentioned that Booker T. Washington did not just work at Tuskegee, HE FOUNDED THE COLLEGE!! He & students even made their own bricks. I think she's misguided to denigrate Booker T. Washington, he believed in Black Economics and building from the ground up.

Was some of his politics problematic? Yes, but peep it, Booker T. founded that school on July 4, 1881 & it's still here. He built an institution that educated many, & that's astounding for a man born in slavery.
 
I hate how cavalier and indifferent some of us are when it comes to speaking on those who came before us.

We have have the luxury of viewing their actions through our eyes which have been fortunate enough to not witness or experience the atrocities they have.

I have no problem with acknowledging their faults and taking steps to not make the same mistakes but when we start to talk about them as this sister is in this video I can't respect that.

That type of vitriol should be directed towards individuals like Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson who have no excuse for who they've become.
But for the sake of argument, how do reconcile the Clarence thomas's of that era?

Are these the black leaders that we as black people were proud of at the time or are they the ones selected by white folks for us to look up to?

We all know history repeats itself. If history is chronicled by Fox viewers than 15 years from now the coons on there would be who was looked upon with reverence. That is, without a counter argument to balance the truth.
 
I hate how cavalier and indifferent some of us are when it comes to speaking on those who came before us.

We have have the luxury of viewing their actions through our eyes which have been fortunate enough to not witness or experience the atrocities they have.

I have no problem with acknowledging their faults and taking steps to not make the same mistakes but when we start to talk about them as this sister is in this video I can't respect that.

That type of vitriol should be directed towards individuals like Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson who have no excuse for who they've become.

This here. I really dislike how disrespectful our generation and this last generation has been. Too many of us are so critical of the folks that came before us. One quote that really bothers me is when people say "We aren't our ancestors!" As if our generation is tougher or stand for less shit than past generations. Yes we can pick pick over details of all of the people that came before us but it would be way more effective to focus our efforts on our current challenges. Right now we have far less obstacles than the people before us but putting in far less work.
 
But for the sake of argument, how do reconcile the Clarence thomas's of that era?

Are these the black leaders that we as black people were proud of at the time or are they the ones selected by white folks for us to look up to?

We all know history repeats itself. If history is chronicled by Fox viewers than 15 years from now the coons on there would be who was looked upon with reverence. That is, without a counter argument to balance the truth.

That's where reading, independent thought and critical thinking come into play.

Anyone who allows any other person or entity dictate history for them without questioning it are already lost IMO.

We all have the ability to read up on these individuals and make our own assessments if we so choose.

And again considering what this brother accomplished during that time, after being born into slavery, which still stands and is talked about today.........why the hell wouldn't we be proud of him flaws and all?
 
Peace,

Interesting. I'm not saying I agree nor disagree, however it's easy to judge ancestor's actions through today's eyes.

Agreed. Our collective view on education has evolved as much as our political worldview. This retroactive criticism is misguided.

And Booker T. Washington did more for black people than all of his harshest critics combined.
 
This here. I really dislike how disrespectful our generation and this last generation has been. Too many of us are so critical of the folks that came before us. One quote that really bothers me is when people say "We aren't our ancestors!" As if our generation is tougher or stand for less shit than past generations. Yes we can pick pick over details of all of the people that came before us but it would be way more effective to focus our efforts on our current challenges. Right now we have far less obstacles than the people before us but putting in far less work.

No doubt.

Most people don't have the discipline to stay off social media, to finish school, or save/invest their money instead if buying bullshit but think they are too strong to pick cotton or be hosed and have dogs sicked on them.
 
I hate how cavalier and indifferent some of us are when it comes to speaking on those who came before us.

We have have the luxury of viewing their actions through our eyes which have been fortunate enough to not witness or experience the atrocities they have.

I have no problem with acknowledging their faults and taking steps to not make the same mistakes but when we start to talk about them as this sister is in this video I can't respect that.

That type of vitriol should be directed towards individuals like Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson who have no excuse for who they've become.

damn.
 
Another Attention-Whoring Mouthy Know It All Idiot who needs to be tossed in a Time Machine to see what it was really like for US in those days.

The last few generations do nothing but Monday Morning Quarterback on folks who sacrificed EVERYTHING!!!
And on top of that, continue to show how misinformed they truly are.

Many of US today couldn't even survive and iota of what our Ancestors went through.
And many of those folks were making history up from Slavery.
So of course there were disagreements on the paths that would take.
Hell.
Even DuBois later gained respected Washington for his ideas on the future for Blacks after Slavery.
 
Any of you have grandfathers who owned their own business? Land? Rental properties?

You must realize this is is prior to Obama and all the benefits we're so accustomed to today.

Prior to freely travling on airplanes, having access to a wealth of information and realizing what we've accomplished today.

Washington lived from 1856 - 1915. Clearly his perspective is going to differ from ours today.

I disagree w/ her and have no issue saluting Washington's approach as well as WEB's.

Both contributed and deserve recognition.
 
Another Attention-Whoring Mouthy Know It All Idiot who needs to be tossed in a Time Machine to see what it was really like for US in those days.

The last few generations do nothing but Monday Morning Quarterback on folks who sacrificed EVERYTHING!!!
And on top of that, continue to show how misinformed they truly are.

Many of US today couldn't even survive and iota of what our Ancestors went through.
And many of those folks were making history up from Slavery.
So of course there were disagreements on the paths that would take.
Hell.
Even DuBois later gained respected Washington for his ideas on the future for Blacks after Slavery.

Kinda ironic that i was typing something similar as you were posing this. We're very aligned in our thinking here.
 
So, wait, wait...
You mean to tell me that Booker T. Washington wasn't PERFECT???? o_O
That I should "fairly" judge a 19th century man by 21st century S.J.W standards???
You mean I should condemn him because he wasn't perfect like these folks:
Frederick Douglass.
Harriet Tubman.
W.E.B Dubois.
Marcus Garvey
Rosa Parks.
MLK Jr.
Malcolm X.
Medger Evers.
Stokley Carmichael.
H. Rap Brown.

Are you trying to convince me that like all those other historically great, Black leaders and advocates, he was human, fallible and from time to time.... made some politically incorrect choices??? :eek2:
Say it ain't so... :rolleyes:
 
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Did you know who was inspired by and greatly admired Booker T. Washington? MARCUS GARVEY, he loved Booker T. Washington's message of "do for self."

& that woman in that video never mentioned that Booker T. Washington did not just work at Tuskegee, HE FOUNDED THE COLLEGE!! He & students even made their own bricks. I think she's misguided to denigrate Booker T. Washington, he believed in Black Economics and building from the ground up.

Was some of his politics problematic? Yes, but peep it, Booker T. founded that school on July 4, 1881 & it's still here. He built an institution that educated many, & that's astounding for a man born in slavery.

Real talk..repek..brah
 
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