Why is ignorance tolerated by the moderators/staff on this board?

Look at how much these white boys "love" their nigga - they are smiling and happy - it is truly a term of endearment - however, it would be so wrong for this black man to call them a cac or a redneck because look at how much they love him -

It such an endearing term Nigga - used only in the most loving and tender ways - the rope around his neck - it just a symbol of their love and affection for the brother - they care about him so much that they don't want him to leave - it would break their lily white hearts if he were to say run for his life -

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With such a history of love and affection for the majority community how dare we say Cac or cracka - I mean it would hurt their feelings and we would show how truly evil we are to use such derogatory terms to people who have care about us since day 1 when they freed us from the darkest jungle of Africa -Lawd bless the White man

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then again maybe not

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I get that. But i am human. And i despise them. You can despise something without allowing it to corrupt you. I've already been corrupted by living in this society. And part of that corruption is what drives my abject hatred of them. I curb it and i am a better person for it because i don't go on massive killing sprees. I don't put them in ovens, i don't enslave them, and i don't believe in enslavement. I don't think what they did to us and every other known people on the globe should be done to them. I believe in giving them a merciful end.

It's never in any logical sense made a lick of it, why the hell the oppressed needs to just forgive and let go of their feelings for their oppressors.

I agree with you entire 1st paragraph 100%....

I also know that if a person allows it to consume them they will be the one destroyed from within.

As to your last sentence I haven't read that anyone suggests forgiving them in this thread and don't believe anything that they have done or continue to do should be forgiven...

I also don't believe in allowing them to cause me to live the life of a perpetual victim because when I do they have won.

There is no way living in this country to not have to come into contact with them or work with them and I can cinduct my self in a professional manner but I don't do the office party associate with them on my time.

And like you my feelings are based on experience and actual events..
 
There is some amazing ignorance in this thread. But, that is exactly what whites wanted to produce from the race supremacist system.

Whites rob you of knowledge of your self and the history of your people... so the next think you know, you are out there defending whites and their crimes against humanity, and helping the white commit more.

Whites take black children, and subject them to 12 years of white supremacy and self-hate through the public school system.

And, then another 4 years in college. That is why I have found the most "educated" black people are too often, the most chickenshit and white-loving.

I actually thought his point was we are better than that..We degrade ourslves when we stoop to the level of the ignorant...And he asked why does the board allow double standards

So I don't think it is a matter of caring for them or their feelings as much as an attempt to return to the proud noble people we once were..

Some don't see that part of the oppression and damage caused by it is them making us think we behave in an ignorant fashion because we want to.

And I don't think his question is any different than me wondering how these cats can profess to love their mothers when the word bitch flows so freely from their mouthes wh speaking of black women..any black woman..

IDK though....I use crakka myself because historically it is correct then as is now....

It is a terrible argument to say black people are better than whites when black people don't do things that whites do to stay in power. If anything, it shows black people are INFERIOR to whites because we cannot do things that whites do routinely.

The goal is not to be better than whites, for a lot of black people. It is to be equal. If that is the case, black people should be doing everything to whites that whites do to black people. That is a level-playing field.

By your logic, black people will always be in a permanent subservient position to whites... there to either die for whites, entertain whites, serve whites, or be imprisoned by whites (the four archetypes of the black man in the white supremacist system of the United States).
 
It only bothers me if we are having a discussion about sports. If we are watching a UFC event that Shit isn't needed, but if the thread is about a Faux News reporter by all means,have at it. Just do you and ignore what you don't like. We all have different backgrounds/experiences to shape who we are. Can't reprimand everyone for everything, but we do need some type of respect for ourselves first. So I understand why the rules are set that way.
 
I agree with you entire 1st paragraph 100%....

I also know that if a person allows it to consume them they will be the one destroyed from within.

As to your last sentence I haven't read that anyone suggests forgiving them in this thread and don't believe anything that they have done or continue to do should be forgiven...

I also don't believe in allowing them to cause me to live the life of a perpetual victim because when I do they have won.

There is no way living in this country to not have to come into contact with them or work with them and I can cinduct my self in a professional manner but I don't do the office party associate with them on my time.

And like you my feelings are based on experience and actual events..

My last sentence was in response to something you said. Or an idea you said. I know i saw it and it popped in my head. But yeah. We're victims by birth. I don't say, Play the role. But at least acknowledge the seriousness of the crime. I say acknowledge. See it. See how it works and then develop a plan to beat them in every way we can. I know we can't be completely FREE of them(yet), and i'm not saying not to tolerate them. I've said many times i'm willing to do business with them even to a SMALL a very SMALL degree. But lets just keep in mind who THEY are.
 
Black folks have never been equal to white folks in this country: economically, sociologically, politically, educationally, etc. White people calling us ****** or anything else derogatory was UNPROVOKED by a group of people that brought us here in chains, became rich off of us, whipped, mutilated, killed, lynched, raped, culturally robbed, severely psychologically damaged us and deprived us of any upward mobility for HUNDREDS of years.

The negative effects of such multi-generational abuse have not just magically gone away. They still exist in a very real way. A band-aid does not heal a shotgun wound.

When we, a people still living under a system of psychological slavery and white supremacy - refer to white people as CAC and so on, it is a subconscious and sometimes conscious REACTION to oppression. In some cases it may be random and it may be rude, and to a degree it may be prejudiced - but it is not RACIST, as we lack the power to commit racism against white people on any tangible, societal level.

Thus, "******" and "cracka" do not hold equal weight.

Let's say for example, on one side of things, a Nation of Islam leader was to call white folks, "white trash", "cracka" etc. - and on the other side a Ku Klux Klan grand wizard referred to all Blacks as coons, it could not be said that BOTH the Nation and the Klan are racist, terrorist organizations. The Klan has a long history of countless rapes, lynching, murders and other violent crimes throughout its history - supported at times by even the highest levels of government. The same cannot be said for the Nation. The two are not the same on any level - though some whites have tried to equate the two (a backhanded attempt to avoid culpability for their racism).

the only time the word devalues us is when we use it amongst ourselves to identify it with those of us we consider less than. people took chris rock's comedy act to heart when he talked about black people vs. niggas. too many of us use the word to describe those black people we consider beneath us and therein lies the devaluation.

fortunately, many of us dont feel the same way about the word and dont use it in that manner. for many of us it truly is a word of endearment and unity, something wrested away from hateful whites and turned on its head in spite of their hate towards us. that meaning is now evolving into a term of friendship that is now used more and more among other races. its no longer unusual to hear groups of hispanic, asian, or white kids refer to each other as "nigga" in the exact same way we do.

all words have context and more importantly, words evolve. don't stymie the evolution. allow it to take place. this does not mean that you are not to get offended when you are called "*******" in a derogatory fashion. it just means that the word has reached a place where for many, it is not derogatory...and the ship has pretty much sailed on curtailing its use. you're only hope is that the evolution happens fast, so that its hateful use continues to be minimalized to the point of extinction.

also, last time i checked...the word nigga is not responsible for high unemployment amongst the black population. the word nigga is not responsible for high incarceration rates of black men. the word nigga is not responsible for systemic racist policies in corporate america and government as well. the word nigga is not responsible for the travesty that is the public school system.
there are important battles worthy of fighting. the word nigga is not one of them.

Well said guys.

Deuterion is a good dude but I think he's out to lunch on this one.

It's really silly to draw this false equivalence between terms like "nigga" and "cac" etc given the historical weight these words carry. We have to stay rooted in reality when we reflect on and discuss these issues. There are power relationships that undergird the use of these epithets.... it makes no sense at all to act as if this isn't the case.

It's one thing to say... "hey no one should ever swear that's not cool" .... or "we shouldn't use derogatory terms to describe any group" that's at least a coherent argument (if a little prudish). But to suggest that these terms are equally offensive or distasteful is incredibly tone-deaf.

I'm sympathetic to the deeper substance of the OP's point though. Humans are humans.... some suck and some don't.

EDIT: Winslow those pictures are infuriating. Thanks for the visual reminder.
 
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My last sentence was in response to something you said. Or an idea you said. I know i saw it and it popped in my head. But yeah. We're victims by birth. I don't say, Play the role. But at least acknowledge the seriousness of the crime. I say acknowledge. See it. See how it works and then develop a plan to beat them in every way we can. I know we can't be completely FREE of them(yet), and i'm not saying not to tolerate them. I've said many times i'm willing to do business with them even to a SMALL a very SMALL degree. But lets just keep in mind who THEY are.

You never saw me say forgive them...and never will...
 
Well said guys.

Deuterion is a good dude but I think he's out to lunch on this one.

It's really silly to draw this false equivalence between terms like "nigga" and "cac" etc given the historical weight these words carry. We have to stay rooted in reality when we reflect on and discuss these issues. There are power relationships that undergird the use of these epithets.... it makes no sense at all to act as if this isn't the case.

It's one thing to say... "hey no one should ever swear that's not cool" .... or "we shouldn't use derogatory terms to describe any group" that's at least a coherent argument (if a little prudish). But to suggest that these terms are equally offensive or distasteful is incredibly tone-deaf.

I'm sympathetic to the deeper substance of the OP's point though. Humans are humans.... some suck and some don't.

EDIT: Winslow those pictures are infuriating. Thanks for the visual reminder.

This post typifies the basic misunderstanding that most black people have when dealing with whites. That comes from years of being subjected to the white view.

Whites do not see black people as humans.

In the mind of whites, there are humans, namely themselves... and then there are black people, namely you.

So, you can develop the KUMBAYA-mentality, that we are all the same. But, that is a world that only exists in your mind.

In the real world, if you are black, you are the inferior. The police, the TV/Newspapers/Movies, the courts, the jails, and the employers, and the customers will remind you this every single day.

The very fact you have to be reminded that you are inferior (those pictures showing whites lynching black people) through visual evidence, shows that without it, you are living in the land of fairy tales and unicorns.

And, as the old saying goes, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

Just accept that whites and black people are different and separate. It may not be logical to you, but it IS logical to whites and they will do everything in their power to make you understand that.
 
This post typifies the basic misunderstanding that most black people have when dealing with whites. That comes from years of being subjected to the white view.

Whites do not see black people as humans.

In the mind of whites, there are humans, namely themselves... and then there are black people, namely you.

So, you can develop the KUMBAYA-mentality, that we are all the same. But, that is a world that only exists in your mind.

In the real world, if you are black, you are the inferior. The police, the TV/Newspapers/Movies, the courts, the jails, and the employers, and the customers will remind you this every single day.

The very fact you have to be reminded that you are inferior (those pictures showing whites lynching black people) through visual evidence, shows that without it, you are living in the land of fairy tales and unicorns.

And, as the old saying goes, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

Just accept that whites and black people are different and separate. It may not be logical to you, but it IS logical to whites and they will do everything in their power to make you understand that.

There is no misunderstanding here dude. I understand fully well that we are currently living in a global system of white supremacy (as my man kefta often points out).

I also happen to know that... yes... humans are humans. An Indian at the top of the caste system and an "untouchable" are both fundamentally human irrespective of the bullshit dehumanizing socialization that teaches them otherwise.

The same is true all over the world... "race" is strictly a social construct (if a uniquely evil and horrible one) with no biological basis.

There's nothing mutually exclusive about on the one hand; condemning white people for the Euro-American project of creating a global system of injustice and horror and on the other; acknowledging that human beings are simply human beings.

EDIT: Missed your comments about the pictures.... lighten up .... it was an off-handed comment about how jarring those pictures are. You can read into it more if you like but you'd be silly to do so.
 
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There is no misunderstanding here dude. I understand fully well that we are currently living in a global system of white supremacy (as my man kefta often points out).

I also happen to know that... yes... humans are humans. An Indian at the top of the caste system and an "untouchable" are both fundamentally human irrespective of the bullshit dehumanizing socialization that teaches them otherwise.

The same is true all over the world... "race" is strictly a social construct (if a uniquely evil and horrible one) with no biological basis.

There's nothing mutually exclusive about on the one hand; condemning white people for the Euro-American project of creating a global system of injustice and horror and on the other; acknowledging that human beings are simply human beings.

I absolutely agree that race is a social construct. But why is it so powerful? Why do black people, who suffer from it so much, adopt it as readily as whites? Because, black people recognize that they are different, for whatever reason, from whites. There is no denying this because black people call themselves black, despite the fact it is a term created by whites. In fact, black people will use white racial slurs against themselves and other black people. So, for all intents and purposes, race is real in the world... and humans ARE humans is a useless equivalency.

Let me put it this way...

a corvette and a limousine are both cars, but they are not equal and will be used and operate in the world for entirely different reasons.

Sure, they both get you from point A to point B. But, you wouldn't use a limousine in place of a corvette, or vice versa. They have different prices. Different maintenance requirements. You have to drive them differently. They appeal to different driving situations. They have different features and abilities.

But, that is a very clumsy analogy.

Let's say you have a french poodle and a pit bull.

They are both dogs. But they operate in the world very differently.

A healthy French poodle cannot kill a healthy pit bull. But, a pit bull can easily kill a healthy french poodle.

The equivalency that they are both dogs is meaningless, in a survival situation. You must accept your limitations and look for ways to change the circumstances to your advantage, for your very survival.

Too many black people think that they are equal to whites. No one is equal to anyone else. We are all different. It is this ability to discern and exploit differences that will allow you to survive as a black man in this world of whites... not a false sense of equality.

At least, that is how I see it.
 
the only time the word devalues us is when we use it amongst ourselves to identify it with those of us we consider less than. people took chris rock's comedy act to heart when he talked about black people vs. niggas. too many of us use the word to describe those black people we consider beneath us and therein lies the devaluation.

fortunately, many of us dont feel the same way about the word and dont use it in that manner. for many of us it truly is a word of endearment and unity, something wrested away from hateful whites and turned on its head in spite of their hate towards us. that meaning is now evolving into a term of friendship that is now used more and more among other races. its no longer unusual to hear groups of hispanic, asian, or white kids refer to each other as "nigga" in the exact same way we do.

all words have context and more importantly, words evolve. don't stymie the evolution. allow it to take place. this does not mean that you are not to get offended when you are called "*******" in a derogatory fashion. it just means that the word has reached a place where for many, it is not derogatory...and the ship has pretty much sailed on curtailing its use. you're only hope is that the evolution happens fast, so that its hateful use continues to be minimalized to the point of extinction.

also, last time i checked...the word nigga is not responsible for high unemployment amongst the black population. the word nigga is not responsible for high incarceration rates of black men. the word nigga is not responsible for systemic racist policies in corporate america and government as well. the word nigga is not responsible for the travesty that is the public school system.
there are important battles worthy of fighting. the word nigga is not one of them.


well stated. however, incorrect. the word cannot be "turned on it's head" and I don't care who uses it. it's like slow acting poison.
you say the word isn't reponsible for this that and the other, well it may not be directly responsible, but the denigration of self worth IS a huge component in all of those things.
I try to tell young people to think of job interviews. do you go in there calling the interviewer n*****? I hardly think so.
I don't know how old you are, but people died for that word. it will NEVER, EVER be okay for black people, or anybody else to use it.
and worse when we use it towards each other. and , yeah it is worth fighting over. can't you see?


I bet you don't flinch when your white friends use nigga as a “term of endearment".

“No bro, I meant that in a good way!"

So you're saying a select group of black Americans were able to steal the n word from white folks, drop the last 2 letters, replace it with an A, then apply a positive meaning to it?

Newsflash: the n word is still derogatory to most people around the world, including white Americans.


well said
 
CAC stands for cracka ass cracka. Cracker or cracka came from the sound of the whip cracking. No reparations have been paid to date, slaver never even ended it just changed to a sneakier form aka school to privatized prison pipeline, racial profiling etc. I dont see how anyone could even think to compare this word to the n word :smh:
 
I said I wasn't going to responde back to anything being said in this thread but I changed my mind once I notice that his has grown legs is now headed in a different direction than it started out.
A couple of simple points....



Most of Americans have the same mentality of Mahatma Gandhi,they don't like to be subjected to subhuman conditions that are put apon them by others but themselves have and subject other's to the same treatment they scream bloody-murder over.
I stand on one simple principle,"wrong is wrong"but in todays society for me to stand on the simple but powerful principle I would be a walking,talking contradiction that would be in the middle of so many battles that my sanity,my spirit,my core principles that never waiver would be surely compromised and my demise would be inevitable after that.

Threads like this one say alot about the person who created it,the responce's say alot about the state of mind that our people are in.We are so divided,to the point it's not even funny because the smallest most irrelevant things can drive the biggest wedges between us.It's not rocket science either,it done by design and it's been that way for centuries thanks to this countries forefather's.When will enough be enough?when your dead an gone,when you become as irrelevant as the seeds you have left on this earth(same mentality).

:smh:The American pie,I can't argue in favor for someone else to have a larger share of that pie,that they have already experienced before I've even gotten the chance to serve myself a peice of that same pie.
I've tasted only the crumbs of that American Pie,I've shared those same crumbs with other's for years.
I've dreamt,thought about and planned for years on how I was going to get a peice of that American pie just to realize that it would do nothing for our true hunger....
(only so many are going to get it,but pick and choose wisely)
 
I find it funny that black people reconcile their belief system to insure that the CAC viewpoint is not challenged or questioned. Like these CACs work and behave in a way for the common good of the human race. CACs have the power and they have abused it. I AM NOT making up the void for the shit they have and will do to make sure they are comfortable. If they come here, they should WANT to leave...period.
 
CAC stands for cracka ass cracka. Cracker or cracka came from the sound of the whip cracking. No reparations have been paid to date, slaver never even ended it just changed to a sneakier form aka school to privatized prison pipeline, racial profiling etc. I dont see how anyone could even think to compare this word to the n word :smh:


don't forget peonage which was the replacement to slavery and that has grown into what is now called the prison industrial complex.



Along the lines of this thread, yours is not only informative for those who don't know but also expressly explains why we have developed the feelings we have towards them..
 
:lol:@ the word police straight jackin the thread so they can go on their "no-nigga" campaign for the millionth time

some of u niggas is softer then new pillows but try to wrap ur bitchassness in some type of convulted philosophy figuring nobody would notice
 
well stated. however, incorrect. the word cannot be "turned on it's head" and I don't care who uses it. it's like slow acting poison.
you say the word isn't reponsible for this that and the other, well it may not be directly responsible, but the denigration of self worth IS a huge component in all of those things.
I try to tell young people to think of job interviews. do you go in there calling the interviewer n*****? I hardly think so.
I don't know how old you are, but people died for that word. it will NEVER, EVER be okay for black people, or anybody else to use it.
and worse when we use it towards each other. and , yeah it is worth fighting over. can't you see?




well said

you are choosing to ignore reality, which is your right. and that itself is the "slow acting poison" you speak of. in your mind, nigga is the true scourge within black society; the reason why we underachieve, the reason why many of us are in jail, etc. i'm not going to get into what this really implies about you..because i think you are at heart a good brotha and i dont want to completely ruin your day. but, you are still trying to equate the word to a singular and negative meaning even though blacks en masse have used the word amongst ourselves differently for 30+ years. so it doesn't matter how passionately you dislike the word because black folk (in our use of it) have decided differently: that we're not going to let 1 meaning of the word hamstring us forever; that we understand that words have power and that we'll take some of that power and give a new meaning to the word.

i'm going to stop right here. i respect you, bruh. and i know you believe you are seeing the big picture but you're not. i just happen to completely disagree with your assessment of how the word nigga affects our community.
 
you are choosing to ignore reality, which is your right. and that itself is the "slow acting poison" you speak of. in your mind, nigga is the true scourge within black society; the reason why we underachieve, the reason why many of us are in jail, etc. i'm not going to get into what this really implies about you..because i think you are at heart a good brotha and i dont want to completely ruin your day. but, you are still trying to equate the word to a singular and negative meaning even though blacks en masse have used the word amongst ourselves differently for 30+ years. so it doesn't matter how passionately you dislike the word because black folk (in our use of it) have decided differently: that we're not going to let 1 meaning of the word hamstring us forever; that we understand that words have power and that we'll take some of that power and give a new meaning to the word.

i'm going to stop right here. i respect you, bruh. and i know you believe you are seeing the big picture but you're not. i just happen to completely disagree with your assessment of how the word nigga affects our community.



not quite bro. I never said the word was the only problem or the reason we have all the problems we do. what I'm saying is the word was created to be divisive. and it is and will continue to be no matter how it's spun. I think people use it not knowing the damage it causes. In their mind (and yours maybe) it's not that bad. but it is. I'm not so naive as to believe the word is the whole or even a vast majority of our problem(s). it is just indicative of how little we (and consequently cacs) value we place on ourselves. it is certainly not the only or largest manifestation of this, but we gotta start somewhere.

and I respect your argument and point of view also. THIS is an example of how we can communicate, exchange ideas, learn and even agree to disagree without things degenerating into name calling, etc

BTW, I feel the same about calling my mothers, daughters, and sisters b****
 
Exactly, cats think like mental slaves on here.

The fucking irony

especially since you were running around here a few months ago referring to bw as black bitches and beasts and saying we all need to get beat up

cant expect much else from a self hating spic who has the white mans dick so far down his throat he cant see straight
 
The fucking irony

especially since you were running around here a few months ago referring to bw as black bitches and beasts and saying we all need to get beat up

cant expect much else from a self hating spic who has the white mans dick so far down his throat he cant see straight

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OP is a fucking clown

he didnt always used to be like this though ... when i first joined this board he was cool ... but much like the rest of bgol's little ones like shady and ross, he grew to hate bw with the guidance of the bigger coons on this board like dr truth and maxipaddawg, and rick ronson

Op used to be pro-black then all of a sudden he started saying he isnt black and now he only claims latino even though he is afro latino
 
OP is a fucking clown

he didnt always used to be like this though ... when i first joined this board he was cool ... but much like the rest of bgol's little ones like shady and ross, he grew to hate bw with the guidance of the bigger coons on this board like dr truth and maxipaddawg, and rick ronson

Op used to be pro-black then all of a sudden he started saying he isnt black and now he only claims latino even though he is afro latino

Afro latino? What we gonna call him?.... spigga?
 
you are choosing to ignore reality, which is your right. and that itself is the "slow acting poison" you speak of. in your mind, nigga is the true scourge within black society; the reason why we underachieve, the reason why many of us are in jail, etc. i'm not going to get into what this really implies about you..because i think you are at heart a good brotha and i dont want to completely ruin your day. but, you are still trying to equate the word to a singular and negative meaning even though blacks en masse have used the word amongst ourselves differently for 30+ years. so it doesn't matter how passionately you dislike the word because black folk (in our use of it) have decided differently: that we're not going to let 1 meaning of the word hamstring us forever; that we understand that words have power and that we'll take some of that power and give a new meaning to the word.

i'm going to stop right here. i respect you, bruh. and i know you believe you are seeing the big picture but you're not. i just happen to completely disagree with your assessment of how the word nigga affects our community.

Absolutely correct. A lot of people responding in this thread think they are showing strength by name calling and defending racial slurs but really they are showing their weakness, ignorance, and insecurities. A strong Black man does what he wants...he doesn't let anyone [the white man] dictate his emotions like the people in here are. MLK stood in the face of extreme racism and pretty much said that we will be the bigger men by taking the high road. He advocated pacifism so that there could be a clear contrast of who is and isn't the monster and his strategy worked...that's strength.

All this immature and ignorant name calling isn't going to get us anywhere as a human race and only works to divide us further. Funny thing is that they are quick to say that other people have "the white man" on their brain but they are the first ones to bring them [white man] up and use their [white man] actions as justification of theirs. They are subconsciously following the "the white man" and only feel justified in their actions once they compare them to "the white man". These folks are not the strong Black people of the past that got us through slavery and the civil rights movement. These are not the same Black people who built pyramids or sailed the Atlantic Ocean. These Black people are the spineless and pacified end result of the US Government's constant assault on our pride, knowledge of self, strength, unity, and self respect.
 
Honest issue...

Cats quick to ban you for saying "monkey" or any other derogatory term towards a Black person but "CAC" and "Spic" are common terms used in almost every thread and I see no punishments being handed down for their use. I think MLK's philosophy was correct when he said "An injustice anywhere, is a threat to justice everywhere" therefore we shouldn't allow these negative actions to take place here but then cry when it happens towards us somewhere else. Using that terminology is bitch made and only cowards use broad brushes to paint whole entire racial groups. You can't put negative energy into the universe and then cry when someone brings it back to you. So to summarize...why not ban ignorance in its totality? /end rant


Because your opening ignorant post would be banned and there would be 1/100th the thread on here.

Did you re-read your post?

Your logic needs some work too.

Just saying.

Respect.

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