Why don't we have a strong BLACK leader(s) to speak for us?

Because nobody wants to follow. Cats are so afraid of the next brother outshining them, that no one wants to be led. Cats would rather hate than follow. Also, whomever decides to "lead" better know what they're doing. It's like a gaggle of geese. There is no "lead goose", they follow the one that knows where its going.

We work together, we've always worked better as a collective. When MLK was doing his thing so was malcolm so were the panthers so was medgar and a whole host of other people.

we need to just be collective and work together, leaders will naturally step forward.
 
Because nobody wants to follow. Cats are so afraid of the next brother outshining them, that no one wants to be led. Cats would rather hate than follow. Also, whomever decides to "lead" better know what they're doing. It's like a gaggle of geese. There is no "lead goose", they follow the one that knows where its going.

They also switch off so that no one goose has to face the head winds the entire time.
 
We don't need one.

We need 20 or 30 willing to dedicate their lives to the cause

and they need back up from us dedicating our lanes to the cause.

Everybody shoulder some of the load instead of trying to put it on 1 person.

Too many people asleep at this point because they got it good so they're not trying to fuck that up.

The ones that got it good are the ones that could actually fund and help the ones who don't have it good, pulling them up
but
in the dog eat dog society that's just not the way things are shaping up.

1st step would be a national news network. One that is all black or minority. All owned, by black or minority to report the news without the propaganda viewpoint that we currently see

After that we will be informed to what's really going on.

Next step is not letting the coons realign with us. Once you step over the line that's it. No welcome home.

Next is local levels, everyone has to find out what they can do to help and do it. Not everyone can do everything or give all of their time but if everyone does something small it becomes big

We don't really need 1 leader

we need belief

and people willing to fight for that belief on every level.

This is the problem right there, today no one really knows what the cause is, and in reality no one can stop people from buying the new high tech "gift" big corporation has to offer, and no one is willing to pay more for a product to keep jobs in place..
As long as those variables are in place, the only option is to equip our children to be prepared for the future... Unfortunately our cause has been keeping shit the way it is, and expecting the government to pull jobs out their asses, and supplement our spending habits like that's something that can really happen.. To many, this is the American way.:smh:
 
This tread offers the question quite profoundly, but sadly in ways the op may not have been expecting..
During the last 7 years BGOL, a forum that has always been in touch with the pulse and the attitude of young males ages from 22-45, quality of post has eroded dramatically... In that period of time, fluffy post (post like look at this rappers car, or two hood rats fighting) are up way up, opinionated post (what car is better, what phone is better what girl would you want for your baby mother) up way up, comic book superhero post are way up, yet any post that requires any type of critical thinking way way down...
This is telling me we are thinking less, and wasting our mind on mindless fluff, during a time where we should be thinking more, getting wiser and preparing for the storm that is ready to blow...
 
This tread offers the question quite profoundly, but sadly in ways the op may not have been expecting..
During the last 7 years BGOL, a forum that has always been in touch with the pulse and the attitude of young males ages from 22-45, quality of post has eroded dramatically... In that period of time, fluffy post (post like look at this rappers car, or two hood rats fighting) are up way up, opinionated post (what car is better, what phone is better what girl would you want for your baby mother) up way up, comic book superhero post are way up, yet any post that requires any type of critical thinking way way down...
This is telling me we are thinking less, and wasting our mind on mindless fluff, during a time where we should be thinking more, getting wiser and preparing for the storm that is ready to blow...
 
You want a black leader, start here... Do Hispanics, Asians, or another minority group go around looking for a leader? Don't depend of someone that looks like you to lead you bruh. :yes:



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c/s. been saying this ^^^ for years.

when big Al, Jesse, and Bill Cosby speak on nat'l tv, they speak for themselves.

i might agree with them; i might not.

but NONE of them are leaders to me.
 
Bought Off:
Any black leader is quickly bought off. Their silence is rewarded.

Fired:
Any strong black leader would be terminated and blacklisted.

Spy
Any strong black leader would be put under suffocating surveillance. They would break into his computer and spy to thwart.

Car Accidents
Attacked with cars and death threats.

Media Blocked:
Access to Media would be blocked.

Character Assassination
 
This is the problem right there, today no one really knows what the cause is, and in reality no one can stop people from buying the new high tech "gift" big corporation has to offer, and no one is willing to pay more for a product to keep jobs in place..
As long as those variables are in place, the only option is to equip our children to be prepared for the future... Unfortunately our cause has been keeping shit the way it is, and expecting the government to pull jobs out their asses, and supplement our spending habits like that's something that can really happen.. To many, this is the American way.:smh:

as long as you live in america... knowledge is power, but $$$ makes the rules.

blowing $$$ in a wild, reckless manner is what's cool & expected. niccas here wipe their asses with $100 bills, drive lambos, etc.

carry on.

... always trying look rich instead of trying to get rich.

not realizing that rich people don't use/need alarm clocks.
 
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None of the people you listed operated in a vacuum or existed as the only voice of their time. They had peers that they exchanged ideas with who were also very prominent in their own right.

Right now, we have many voices on a local level. So many that it sounds like static. People need to take inspiration from a voice that they respect and then go out and make their change. It could be a small move or a larger broader move that affects many others.

Take inspiration where you find it.
 
as long as you live in america... knowledge is power, but $$$ makes the rules.

blowing $$$ in a wild, reckless manner is what's cool & expected. niccas here wipe their asses with $100 bills, drive lambos, etc.

carry on.

... always trying look rich instead of trying to get rich.

not realizing that rich people don't use/need alarm clocks.
Let me try to explain to you how deep the situation is and how far behind we are... You talking about people who make money makes the rules, when in reality the people who actually makes the money (prints it) are the ones who are out to destroy us... Now chew on that for a while.....
KNOWLEDGE (intelligence)>>>> money!!!!
 
You want a black leader, start here... Do Hispanics, Asians, or another minority group go around looking for a leader? Don't depend of someone that looks like you to lead you bruh. :yes:

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Tell me this, do you see Hispanics, Asians, or another minority groups being murdered everyday and or night? :hmm:
 
Tell me this, do you see Hispanics, Asians, or another minority groups being murdered everyday and or night? :hmm:

The murders you see aren't the storm or where the danger lies... Once they convert money to electronic currency, folks would be at the mercy of being literally deleted by the millions..
 
Money not being put good use...

We need to stop thinking about, getting money and spending it, and getting a good job, in more in terms of creating commerce and creating our own jobs..

Think: If there was two islands, one with people who all had a billion dollars, that couldn't do shit and another one, with talented people who could actually do shit, build, chemistry, Agriculture, mathematics, physics, metallurgy, electronics, and the tops of other fields... Which island would you rather be stuck away from civilization, on?
 
this is a difficult question. It is likely that no one wants the job. One of the other factors is that so many people have ulterior motives and seek to only get popular, or rich. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton largely only show up when there are cameras which in my eyes makes me lose respect for them.

you do things that need to be done because they need to be done, not because you want a photo op cookie for it. to me, both of those guys are like a Tim Tebow prayer they're just doing it so people can see them doing it, they are disingenuous to me

we don't need the Bill Cosbys who complain but don't offer Solutions. We need someone who is unselfish, honest, trustworthy, willing and cannot be bought or paid off and those five traits are nearly impossible to find in one man. the biggest problem though, everybody fees the need. Everybody says, somebody needs to do something, but they are unwilling to be the one that does what needs to be done.
 
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Most black leaders don't want to be the bearer of bad news, telling our people shit we don't want to hear.. Instead they say fuck it, and are preparing their families and loved ones for what to come..
This is what you see in the so called new breed blacks.. But fuck that and fuck them
, the truth has to be told, and we all need to know whats up and we need all hands on deck with this shit..
The truth is that with in 15 years around 30% of the few jobs we have now, will be lost, and there will be very little support or sympathy for the poor, and support for the poor and unemployed will also continue to erode, basically if you don't have your masters you are going to have a hard time..
It is important that we start inveting in the future of our youth, instead of buying that 400 dollar Xbox why not invest in a pluming or electronic tools..

Here is a list of top ten jobs that will be lost over the next ten years..
1. Retail Cashier:
2. Telemarketer:
3. Freight/Stock:
4. Newspaper Delivery:
5. Travel Agent:
6. Postal Worker:
7. Taxi Dispatcher:
8. Word Processor/Typist:
9. Librarian:
10. Social Media Manager:

Not to mention downsizing in all city and state jobs and a huge reducing in the military..

Now here is the top future jobs that we need to be prepairing our children for..

Now a list of top ten jobs that will be around ten years..

1. Registered Nurse
2. Systems Software Developer
3. Plumber
4. Construction Equipment Operator
5. Electrician
6. Personal Financial Advisor
7. Physical Therapist's Assistant
8. Computer Network Administrator
9. Painter
10. Dental Hygienist


Look at the jobs of the future and the shit they are training our kids, and tell me if it adds up..
Shit is getting real and who wants to be the leader to tell our black young parents the gloom and doom and who wants to hear that shit..
All this civil unrest is just an excuse for the feds to move in with their crowd control toys, something they will have in place once the food riots and if there is another crash or a future pandemic..
 
I miss brother Khalid Muhammed:(

C/S.


And to OP, a black person is not in a position to lead black people within the context of racism/white supremacy. He/she can act like one but in reality they do not have the power to be one. Thus, the leaders of black people are white people.
 
Because everyone wants to be a cheif and no one wants to be just an indian. No matter who speaks out for us we'll find a way to nit pick.
 
Most american don't have a clue to how government or economics works, they actually would say some dumb shit like they should make more jobs for lower income people, really? like how is that supposed to work?
Oh I got it, if you wan more jobs, I have a great suggestion, lets get rid of all digital media, and boom just like that old video stores would be back in business, get rid of cell phones and calculators, beepers, and even old cameras would come back, there are more jobs..
I point that out, just to establish the correlation between the shit we crave for and jobs lost..
Perhaps what we need to do is slow the fuck down, and appreciate the shit we got, it gets to a certain point where moore's law can wind up biting us in the ass, big time. To be honest there needs to be some form of regulation to technology, and better commitment towards preparing poor people and people of color for tomorrow volatile job market..
 
Most black leaders don't want to be the bearer of bad news, telling our people shit we don't want to hear.. Instead they say fuck it, and are preparing their families and loved ones for what to come..
This is what you see in the so called new breed blacks.. But fuck that and fuck them
, the truth has to be told, and we all need to know whats up and we need all hands on deck with this shit..
The truth is that with in 15 years around 30% of the few jobs we have now, will be lost, and there will be very little support or sympathy for the poor, and support for the poor and unemployed will also continue to erode, basically if you don't have your masters you are going to have a hard time..
It is important that we start inveting in the future of our youth, instead of buying that 400 dollar Xbox why not invest in a pluming or electronic tools..

Here is a list of top ten jobs that will be lost over the next ten years..
1. Retail Cashier:
2. Telemarketer:
3. Freight/Stock:
4. Newspaper Delivery:
5. Travel Agent:
6. Postal Worker:
7. Taxi Dispatcher:
8. Word Processor/Typist:
9. Librarian:
10. Social Media Manager:

Not to mention downsizing in all city and state jobs and a huge reducing in the military..

Now here is the top future jobs that we need to be prepairing our children for..

Now a list of top ten jobs that will be around ten years..

1. Registered Nurse
2. Systems Software Developer
3. Plumber
4. Construction Equipment Operator
5. Electrician
6. Personal Financial Advisor
7. Physical Therapist's Assistant
8. Computer Network Administrator
9. Painter
10. Dental Hygienist


Look at the jobs of the future and the shit they are training our kids, and tell me if it adds up..
Shit is getting real and who wants to be the leader to tell our black young parents the gloom and doom and who wants to hear that shit..
All this civil unrest is just an excuse for the feds to move in with their crowd control toys, something they will have in place once the food riots and if there is another crash or a future pandemic..

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?p=14669761#post14669761
 
Tell me this, do you see Hispanics, Asians, or another minority groups being murdered everyday and or night? :hmm:



So what you're saying is that once we get a "Black Leader", this will stop? People called Jeff Fort (Almighty P. Stone) a leader , Ed Perry (Vice Lord Leader) a leader, David Barksdale, (Black Disciples) a leader), Raymond Washington and Stanley Williams (Crips) leaders, T. Rodgers (Bloods) a leader. All leaders who have killed people who look like you and me. You want to see who's on LA top 10 most wanted list?


http://www.lapdonline.org/top_ten_most_wanted


There a plenty of other ethnic groups that killed each other, we have a problem of only seeing things we that affect us.:(
 
Why do we need A leader? Watching the Ferguson situation, there seem to be plenty of leaders out there, such as Antonio French and the young brother from Dream Defenders, Phillip Agnew. Or Missouri state senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal.
 
Back in spotlight, Sharpton seizes the moment

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Stepping to the pulpit at Greater Grace Church — minutes from where a suburban St. Louis police officer shot and killed an unarmed black 18-year-old — the Rev. Al Sharpton wielded the fiery words that have marked his long, often notorious career.

"These parents are not going to cry alone," he preached to the crowd that packed the pews last Sunday in Ferguson, Missouri. "We have had enough!" But when Sharpton sat down days later with New York's mayor to discuss the response to a Staten Island man's death in a police officer's chokehold, he recalibrated his rhetoric. "We don't have to agree on everything, but we don't have to be disagreeable," Sharpton said, facing the city's police commissioner.

Plenty has been said in recent years about Sharpton's "reinvention," as he shed nearly 170 pounds, traded warmup outfits for tailored suits, took to the camera for a daily cable television show, and built relationships with the White House and New York's city hall. But to allies and critics who have watched him parachute into racially charged crises for more than three decades, recent weeks are just testament to Sharpton's unflagging ability to seize the moment, regardless of setbacks and no matter how the opening presents itself.

"He always seems to be in the right places and seems to be able to absorb and overcome some devastating blows," said the Rev. Herbert Daughtry, 84, who has known Sharpton since he was a boy preacher at Brooklyn's Washington Temple and has marched alongside him time and again. "I don't see that he's changed. The core of Rev. Sharpton is the same ... the root is the same, the substance is the same."

Sharpton returns to Ferguson on Monday to speak at the funeral for Michael Brown, following a weekend protest march in New York, cementing his place at the intersection of advocacy and controversy.

He first commanded national attention in 1987 as the medallioned 305-pound spitfire demanding justice for an upstate New York teen, Tawana Brawley, in the uproar surrounding what turned out to be a made-up rape.

He was widely derided for his incendiary rhetoric, but his doggedness earned credibility with some blacks as the voice of the street, says David Bositis, an analyst specializing in African-American politics who counseled Sharpton before his 2004 run for president. The activist's change in tone since then is no accident, he said.

"He knows what it's like when you're judged outside," Bositis said. "I think ... in his own way, this is a calculation about being effective, being influential."

Now 59, Sharpton was raised by his mother after his father left home when he was in grade school. By age 4, he was delivering "eloquently precocious" sermons in Brooklyn churches, Daughtry said. When he was just 15, local activists pointed him out to Jesse Jackson, who named Sharpton youth director of Operation Breadbasket, the New York branch of an effort to improve economics in black neighborhoods.

Still in his teens, Sharpton went on the road with soul idol James Brown, whose role as surrogate father inspired his prominent perm, since tamed. In 1984, Sharpton led protests demanding the prosecution of Bernhard Goetz, a white man who opened fire on four black teens in the New York subway.

In crisis after crisis, Sharpton begged controversy. In 1995, he lambasted the Jewish owner of a store in Harlem, labeling him a "white interloper." Soon after, a protester set fire to the store, killing eight people.

At the 1991 funeral for a black boy struck and killed by the car of an Orthodox rabbi in Brooklyn's Crown Heights section, Sharpton railed against the neighborhood's "diamond merchants."

"There was an anti-Semitic tide running through that neighborhood and he fueled it," said Wayne Barrett, a former investigative reporter for New York's Village Voice who covered the aftermath.

In recent years, Sharpton has acknowledged "mistakes." Critics say he can't undo the damage. But many African-Americans, agreeing with the core of Sharpton's insistent message, have looked past the errors, said Mary Frances Berry, a scholar of black American history and politics at the University of Pennsylvania.

"What he did was to keep on moving," she said.

The setbacks, though, went beyond rhetorical missteps. In the 1990s, Sharpton was acquitted of tax fraud and stealing from one of his charities. He later pleaded guilty to failing to file a state tax return. In 2008, he filed long overdue returns that showed he owned nearly $1.5 million in taxes, and negotiated a repayment plan with the government. This spring, he faced tough questions after reports he served as an FBI informant in the 1980s.

Undeterred, Sharpton has moved to fill the void left by Jackson, who has been far less visible in recent years.

"Who on the national scene was going to play that role?" Berry said. "If Al Sharpton didn't exist we'd have to invent him, where he's invented himself several times."

Like Jackson, Sharpton has a knack for showing up, whether to demand justice for Sean Bell, a black man shot to death by New York police in 2006 just hours before his wedding, or to protest "Stand Your Ground" laws in Florida after the shooting death of Trayvon Martin by a neighborhood watch volunteer.

More than just sticking around, though, supporters say Sharpton has matured.

He is "no longer the jumpsuit-wearing, obese, long-locks guy, up and down the streets and in the hallways screaming," Daughtry said. "If you're going to be a man of the world you've got to be able to relate to all these kinds of people."

After combative relationships with a series of New York mayors, Sharpton and Michael Bloomberg shook hands before cameras during Bloomberg's first days in office in 2002. He speaks regularly with new Mayor Bill DeBlasio, although the death of Eric Garner on Staten Island has led to tense moments between the men, as Sharpton has questioned the tactics of Police Commissioner William Bratton. And he has cultivated a relationship with President Barack Obama, who spoke to Sharpton's National Action Network earlier this year.

Sharpton has also benefited from changes in cable news, which now routinely fills airtime with commentators with clearly political agendas. He has his own show and is a frequent guest on others' on MSNBC.

"He is this kind of modern American construct," said Syracuse University's Robert Thompson, an expert on television and popular culture. "He's in the middle of the story and then he comes back ... and he talks about the story."

That's likely to be the case again this week, when Sharpton returns to the airwaves following Brown's funeral.

It's proof, those who know Sharpton say, of his dexterity at manufacturing opportunity from adversity. Barrett recalls about 20 years ago, when he invited Sharpton to the bachelor party for a fellow reporter who had dug hard into the activist's checkered past.

"He shows up in a white suit, I'll never forget the day," Barrett recalls. "And I'm telling you that's because to him, yesterday's enemy is today's ally ... To The Rev, every day is a new day, and I can make myself anybody I want to make myself into and tomorrow only people like Barrett will remember."

http://news.yahoo.com/back-spotlight-sharpton-seizes-moment-044756675.html
 
You want a black leader, start here... Do Hispanics, Asians, or another minority group go around looking for a leader? Don't depend of someone that looks like you to lead you bruh. :yes:



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You got it right. People always looking for someone else to do what they can do themselves. At the same time those same people want to slam the so called black leaders.
 
You got it right. People always looking for someone else to do what they can do themselves. At the same time those same people want to slam the so called black leaders.

somebody looking for a leader is a follower by nature
 
we have plenty of voices

we don't control the media outlets

the people that do are actively against us

we are stuck with the net for now, gotta make the most outta that shit

Basically. The media will keep putting cameras in Rev Al face and make America think he is the voice of black people in america. Only white people think Rev Al is a black leader...while we already know the game he's running.
 
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Especially in light of recent events...

now more then ever don't we NEED a strong vocal leader for Black People?

Where is the next Martin, Malcolm, Marcus Garvey, Huey etc.

I think Minister Farrakhan could have been after the Million Man March.

It seems we only have Sharpton now on a national stage and Jesse Jackson is losing respect.

The NAACP may never fully recover after the Donald Sterling fiasco.

As disjointed as the Republican party IS there are leaders within it with strong constituents..

Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Riley, Hanniety and the rest have STRONG voices and have influenced change for THEIR groups.

Say what you will but White people (and we have seen Jewish people, Asian, & Hispanics follow suit) unify in times of crisis and importance.

They have strong lobbyists, vote as a block and boycott & protest in a very organized manner.

Even PETA and GLAAD have STRONG groups that have voices that WILL be heard.

It seems even with all the growth of social media, the information and knowledge that most of us are AWARE of

That knowledge isn't been utilized to its fullest.

Where is OUR voice???




damn son where you been under a rock..

you dont know that under a capitalist aka racist

society, a righteous leader, is either going to.

A- have his character assassinated in the corporate controlled media.

B- get murked..medical assassinations are the soup du jour

C- sell out to the highest bidder for the safety of his family or for greed.
 


Black leadership died back in the 60s.What need is a game plan to provide jobs,homes,food and political figures we can depend on.Al sharpton isn't and never has been a leader for blacks.Marching on issues to get a donation for your organization.Shouldn't be look upon as cause for us.We spend 1 trillion a year and we don't even spend 1% with blacks.The Stockholm syndrome combine with our eurocentric mindset.Has cause a displace belief in our own selves.To prove my point; go on you facebookpage or in your barbershop.And make fun of picture of white Jesus.See how much hate you get from black people.We must change our mind first.



 
because most of them are all pussies that are paid off..."conscious community" included...and some of them that are in the limelight are paid informants too
 
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