Why do some of you dislike Obama and are Republicans?

I'm a man I prefer most of my interactions to be straight up not sneaky. I don't participate in politics so I don't have to deal with the shitty republicans or democrats. Abortion should have been codified by your party and it wasn't. Rbg should have retired and let ya guy pick a dem she didn't. Here we are

Enjoy
You contradicted yourself. Either you choose between shit vs shit or you don't. Overt racism and passive racism are both racism. You chose to respect overt racism shit.

You're just one of those people who want to want to be held to your choices in like so you pretend not to chose so you are not held accountable. Yet you want to sit back an criticize others for making choices they/we make.
 
You contradicting yourself. Either you choose between shit vs shit or you don't. Overt racism and passive racism are both racism. You chose to respect overt racism shit.
I don't choose between either because I don't vote. I don't vote because the system is the problem and neither party is going to go against capitalism to make things better for black people

I respect someone who is upfront. Doesn't mean I have to like them or deal with them.
 
You contradicted yourself. Either you choose between shit vs shit or you don't. Overt racism and passive racism are both racism. You chose to respect overt racism shit.

You're just one of those people who want to want to be held to your choices in like so you pretend not to chose so you are not held accountable. Yet you want to sit back an criticize others for making choices they/we make.
I don't criticize your choices. I think your participation in this system is dumb but that's your choice
 
I don't criticize your choices. I think your participation in this system is dumb but that's your choice
Bruh..that all you do is criticize people for making a choice to vote and who they chose to voted for.
You know what I think is dumb? For you to continue to live in this capitalist that country that you claim to hate vs moving to one of the socialist utopia countries.
 
Bruh..that all you do is criticize people for making a choice to vote and who they chose to voted for.
You know what I think is dumb? For you to continue to live in this capitalist that country that you claim to hate vs moving to one of the socialist utopia countries.
those socialist utopia countries have better healthcare, Infant mortality rates and abortion isn't illegal.
 
So in elections how do you vote?

I'm a man I prefer most of my interactions to be straight up not sneaky. I don't participate in politics so I don't have to deal with the shitty republicans or democrats. Abortion should have been codified by your party and it wasn't. Rbg should have retired and let ya guy pick a dem she didn't. Here we are

Enjoy
 
I'm not sure at all if you have your eyes opened yet. But what you see these past 5 1/2 years Republicans had Obama's hands at every turn, You think Trump planned these things on January 6 think again. Those Senators are the real treat...when Obama tells you free health care, certain Republicans. (The same one who spread lies about the votes) Those who want to turn it down and spread rumors about it no matter who is the President you have to get rid of all the greens gate mcon perry and 210 of them in votes it called a reset...see if that works also 50 Democrats
 
I'm not sure at all if you have your eyes opened yet. But what you see these past 5 1/2 years Republicans had Obama's hands at every turn, You think Trump planned these things on January 6 think again. Those Senators are the real treat...when Obama tells you free health care, certain Republicans. (The same one who spread lies about the votes) Those who want to turn it down and spread rumors about it no matter who is the President you have to get rid of all the greens gate mcon perry and 210 of them in votes it called a reset...see if that works also 50 Democrats
These cacs and coons don’t care they wanted a million dollars and a free house from Obama.
 
These cacs and coons don’t care they wanted a million dollars and a free house from Obama.
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@Supersav @Soul On Ice

What are y'all looking for in the way of political representation, and how do we get there from here? What is your personal plan navigating how things should be vs where we currently find ourselves?

I'm asking as a solutions-based dude... trying not to over saturate it with my own opinions because I would like to fully understand yours.
 
@Supersav @Soul On Ice

What are y'all looking for in the way of political representation, and how do we get there from here? What is your personal plan navigating how things should be vs where we currently find ourselves?

I'm asking as a solutions-based dude... trying not to over saturate it with my own opinions because I would like to fully understand yours.

I'm not looking for anything from our current political system. Capitalism and racism are intertwined and we as black people will not benefit from how it's currently constructed. I think redistribution of wealth is key along with organizing as a group
 
I'm not looking for anything from our current political system. Capitalism and racism are intertwined and we as black people will not benefit from how it's currently constructed. I think redistribution of wealth is key along with organizing as a group

Is there an existing model, now or from the past? I def feel you about organizing as a group... also agree with redistribution of wealth, but we may disagree on the how..
 
Is there an existing model, now or from the past? I def feel you about organizing as a group... also agree with redistribution of wealth, but we may disagree on the how..
Alot of the socialist countries are good models before US interference and sanctions
 
@Supersav @Soul On Ice

What are y'all looking for in the way of political representation, and how do we get there from here? What is your personal plan navigating how things should be vs where we currently find ourselves?

I'm asking as a solutions-based dude... trying not to over saturate it with my own opinions because I would like to fully understand yours.
Simply put
I want the complete opposite of what my people have been having to put up with since before I was even born.
 
Ask that question to the people in Libya and Venezuela. :o

They don't want to go there with u, trust me.


If you believe in voting and democracy then you should demand more of your politicians. The problem is capitalism and this system. No reason why "evil" communist countries have better healthcare, education, and free abortions

Yep

Hate? The same Obama who says he sees his white grandma when he looks on the mirror? Or the guy who killed an African head of state for his white masters?

Especially when Ghadafi was talking and initiating Africa having their own currency. That's when he became a true problem.

What I am learning as I get older is this system in America will not change until 50-60 years from now, and that is wishful thinking. It's futile to get mad unless you plan on getting involved yourself with politics.

At this point, each individual should take advantage of when either party is running the show whether elephant or donkey.
 
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No he didn’t. You believing that cause you want to. Smh.

"The Obama presidency was a disaster for middle-class wealth in the United States. Between 2007 and 2016, the average wealth of the bottom 99 percent dropped by $4,500. Over the same period, the average wealth of the top 1 percent rose by $4.9 million.
This drop hit the housing wealth of African Americans particularly hard. Outside of home equity, black wealth recovered its 2007 level by 2016. But average black home equity was still $16,700 lower.
Much of this decline, we will argue, can be laid at the feet of President Obama. His housing policies led directly to millions of families losing their homes. What’s more, Obama had the power — money, legislative tools, and legal leverage — to sharply ameliorate the foreclosure crisis.
He chose not to use it"
 
So your family moved from a country where you were the majority to a racist ass country? I think most of us who can trace our lineage to the slave plantations of the United States are realizing what our grandparents used to tell us. Oh clearly Obama's Black but that don't make him like me. It's the same way a Japanese person, a Chinese person and a Korean person are all Asian but they don't dance the same way, they dont cook the same way, they don't dress same way, they don't believe the same things and they ain't the same thing.


Racism effects the world. The thing is with Black people, we will FIND the ways we are not alike and magnify them instead of having any solidarity. We still talking about who is real Black..... Black is not monolithic, so Im more Black then you because I grew in the hood, moms bust her ass, I went to HBCU, worked in the hood, gained my freedom and independently can live. Another brother is more Black then me cause he was shot, and went to prison, etc.

I am not the gatekeeper to what is Black, I watched Barack and he def is Black. Period.

Ill tell you this, most of the times on this board I can gauge level of education, success, how much someone has traveled and or age based off the narrow views on what is Black in America. Fam we all in the same boat, we can argue later about the details, but for now we need to stay on brand and on the same square.
 
Racism effects the world. The thing is with Black people, we will FIND the ways we are not alike and magnify them instead of having any solidarity. We still talking about who is real Black..... Black is not monolithic, so Im more Black then you because I grew in the hood, moms bust her ass, I went to HBCU, worked in the hood, gained my freedom and independently can live. Another brother is more Black then me cause he was shot, and went to prison, etc.

I am not the gatekeeper to what is Black, I watched Barack and he def is Black. Period.

Ill tell you this, most of the times on this board I can gauge level of education, success, how much someone has traveled and or age based off the narrow views on what is Black in America. Fam we all in the same boat, we can argue later about the details, but for now we need to stay on brand and on the same square.
Yeah racism is a worldwide thing and Black people native to this country seem to understand that much more than Black people from other areas. Its not Black people native to this country that started the separation. Black people in this country would accept everyone that was the case until recently when Black people from other country's would start their side disses. For example "akata", taking the Juneteenth holiday and turning it into a Diaspora holiday, stating American Blacks have no culture, etc, etc.

And as I stated earlier people from China, Korea, Japan, Thailand or all Asian but they aren't alike. So basically what I'm saying is what you are saying is bullshit. Look you have people from the continent of Africa from the same country that don't view themselves as the same. Nigerians separate themselves into 3 categories. South Africans don't particularly care for Nigerians. Hutus had a war with the Tutsis. Muthafuckas from the Dominican Republic don't like Haitians and they are on the same island. You know something they all have in common they are all Black.

And as I said earlier is Barack Obama Black, Is Kamala Harris Black? No question they are. Are they like me....nope.

Miss me with that same brand and same square foolishness because we aren't in the same boat. Again I have to ask the question your family came from the Caribbean where to my knowledge the majority of people are Black. I don't know what year this was but lets just say for the sake of argument it was the 1920's the height of lynching in the United States. They came here of their own free will to a racist country....why? I'm side-eyeing you. To move from Louisiana to California like my grandparents siblings did was a struggle, your grandparents moved across an ocean to a racist country that they knew was racist from a majority Black place, why? The United States is where the heart and soul of racism is.
 
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