Why Do Black People Love Ron Paul? Explain what the fuck is so great about him?

Because his views are the same as hillary's. Pro NAFTA, Pro residual Troops in Iraq, Pro War on Drugs etc. Im not saying he would be a terrible president or anything like that, and him winning would be symbolic in terms of a black man getting into office, but people are acting like the dude is this great agent of change when according to his own views hes not. Meanwhile you got edwards and Kucinich who would end the war on drugs and NAFTA and would bring all troops out of Iraq, this is not status quo.

Peace,

You appear to be drinking the Kool Aid on Edwards and Iraq. Edwards, like a few other Monday Morning Quarterbacking libs, has admitted in The Washington Post that it was a mistake to vote for the war but he certainly wasn't one of the millions of people in the US and abroad who demanded the military supply proof of Iraq's WMDs. The fact of the matter is he voted with a mob and now that we've been caught up in a cluster fuck for a few years he's suddenly (and conveniently) war weary. He sure as hell was "status quo" then - when it actually MATTERED. Why would you believe a person who showed no conviction when his vote counted?

Kucinich is a loon who's publicly expressed belief in alien visitation. Doesn't that bother you? Well, perhaps not because quackery isn't status quo either.
 
look people think that eliminating the IRS and the Fed is going to help your pockets, wrong, they already have the power and money consolidated in big businesses and corporations, unless you;re willing to redistribute that as well it is only going to hirt the average person. there are issues such as universal health care- obviously the free market cannot solve that because if it could we would have already had the problem solved. people need to look at what is going to be good for everyone and not just themselves. I have a friend who wont vote for hillary because she wants to change lending practices that would benefit most people but hurt his investments- to me that's selfish sometimes you have to sacrifice some of your personal desires for the betterment of the group. I don't think ron paul has solutions for the majority of america.
 
Peace,

You appear to be drinking the Kool Aid on Edwards and Iraq. Edwards, like a few other Monday Morning Quarterbacking libs, has admitted in The Washington Post that it was a mistake to vote for the war but he certainly wasn't one of the millions of people in the US and abroad who demanded the military supply proof of Iraq's WMDs. The fact of the matter is he voted with a mob and now that we've been caught up in a cluster fuck for a few years he's suddenly (and conveniently) war weary. He sure as hell was "status quo" then - when it actually MATTERED. Why would you believe a person who showed no conviction when his vote counted?

Kucinich is a loon who's publicly expressed belief in alien visitation. Doesn't that bother you? Well, perhaps not because quackery isn't status quo either.

Obama was never in a position to vote on the war, John Edwards voted for the war but was the first to apologize for it. And even though Obama said he was against the war he has still voted to fund the war,Where as Edwards policy was he would only fund the war if there was a set timetable fot withdrawal( which bush vetoed time and time again). And as i already said Obama is for residual troops in iraq, if he was against the war then he would want all troops out of iraq right?

And your comments on Kucinich mean nothing, Ronald Reagan not only believed in aliens and claimed he saw a UFO, but he was also worried there would be an alien Invasion.

All the other trivial stuff doesn't mean anything, i just focus on the candidates and there views as they relate to the issues at hand.
 
Obama was never in a position to vote on the war, John Edwards voted for the war but was the first to apologize for it. And even though Obama said he was against the war he has still voted to fund the war,Where as Edwards policy was he would only fund the war if there was a set timetable fot withdrawal( which bush vetoed time and time again). And as i already said Obama is for residual troops in iraq, if he was against the war then he would want all troops out of iraq right?

And your comments on Kucinich mean nothing, Ronald Reagan not only believed in aliens and claimed he saw a UFO, but he was also worried there would be an alien Invasion.

All the other trivial stuff doesn't mean anything, i just focus on the candidates and there views as they relate to the issues at hand.

im sorry i think believeing you were abducted or could be is an issue at hand :/. a person's views on other races are pretty important when you have to make decisions affecting them.
 
It's almost like niggas are supporting him just to be "Cool" and show that they are some sort of psuedo intellectual that do not need to vote for Obama just because they're black. Ron Paul is a idiot racist that has no chance to win. It's like voting for Ralph Nadar all over again. I swear I don't get you mothafuckas. What is so great about Ron Paul? Admit it, you're just supporting him because you don't want to look like the typical "Negro" voting for Obama. Coon ass mothafuckas.


Your name is Dr. Truth for a reason. :yes:
 
look people think that eliminating the IRS and the Fed is going to help your pockets, wrong, they already have the power and money consolidated in big businesses and corporations, unless you;re willing to redistribute that as well it is only going to hirt the average person. there are issues such as universal health care- obviously the free market cannot solve that because if it could we would have already had the problem solved. people need to look at what is going to be good for everyone and not just themselves. I have a friend who wont vote for hillary because she wants to change lending practices that would benefit most people but hurt his investments- to me that's selfish sometimes you have to sacrifice some of your personal desires for the betterment of the group. I don't think ron paul has solutions for the majority of america.

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Obama was never in a position to vote on the war, John Edwards voted for the war but was the first to apologize for it. And even though Obama said he was against the war he has still voted to fund the war,Where as Edwards policy was he would only fund the war if there was a set timetable fot withdrawal( which bush vetoed time and time again). And as i already said Obama is for residual troops in iraq, if he was against the war then he would want all troops out of iraq right?

And your comments on Kucinich mean nothing, Ronald Reagan not only believed in aliens and claimed he saw a UFO, but he was also worried there would be an alien Invasion.

All the other trivial stuff doesn't mean anything, i just focus on the candidates and there views as they relate to the issues at hand.

Peace,

So, in other words, Edwards wants your vote for president to fix a mistake that he helped create as Senator. I have a difficult time accepting his newfound moral clarity with regard to Iraq.

Also, I'm not sure if you meant to compare Kucinich to an infamous quack and one of the worst presidents (particularly with regard to minorities and the poor) that we've ever had but that's pretty much what you did. Also, why doesn't it bother you that a person who believes he's been visited by aliens wants to be the leader of the Free World?
 
Peace,

So, in other words, Edwards wants your vote for president to fix a mistake that he helped create as Senator. I have a difficult time accepting his newfound moral clarity with regard to Iraq.

Also, I'm not sure if you meant to compare Kucinich to an infamous quack and one of the worst presidents (particularly with regard to minorities and the poor) that we've ever had but that's pretty much what you did. Also, why doesn't it bother you that a person who believes he's been visited by aliens wants to be the leader of the Free World?

Huh? did you not understand that Obama has voted to fund the war even though he claimed to be against it not to mention he would keep troops in iraq? I consider Edwards a better candidate because hes better on the issues as i already said before.

And the point of my comments on Reagan is that even though he believed in aliens, that didn't have anything to do with his actual performance, surely he wasn't a shitty president just because he believed in aliens, as far as im concerned he was just a shitty president. And besides you don't wanna take it there, i could easily say Obama is a wack job because he believes in a blond blue-eyed Jesus who listens to everybody's thoughts and knows what there gonna do before they do it.

Just worry about the Issues bruh thats all that matters, if Your pro NAFTA and pro residual troops then vote for Obama, if your not then vote for someone else its that simple.

If you can't do that then once again i'll have to just agree to disagree.
 
Huh? did you not understand that Obama has voted to fund the war even though he claimed to be against it not to mention he would keep troops in iraq? I consider Edwards a better candidate because hes better on the issues as i already said before.

And the point of my comments on Reagan is that even though he believed in aliens, that didn't have anything to do with his actual performance, surely he wasn't a shitty president just because he believed in aliens, as far as im concerned he was just a shitty president. And besides you don't wanna take it there, i could easily say Obama is a wack job because he believes in a blond blue-eyed Jesus who listens to everybody's thoughts and knows what there gonna do before they do it.

Just worry about the Issues bruh thats all that matters, if Your pro NAFTA and pro residual troops then vote for Obama, if your not then vote for someone else its that simple.

If you can't do that then once again i'll have to just agree to disagree.

Peace,

As you well know, Obama's plan is to gradually scale back troops - which is EXACTLY what Edwards would do, despite what he claims.

At any rate, how does voting to fund troops (any other vote would have been viewed as undermining the military, btw) equate to voting to send them to Iraq in the first place?

Also, one could argue that Reagan's kneejerk acceptance of pseudoscience did, indeed, affect the way he performed his duties. His "diplomacy" with the USSR was faith-based according to him and those who knew him. Billions of people were simply fortunate that his peculiar "faith" didn't bring about WWIII.

As far as the issues go, Edwards is a run-of-the-mill pro-life, pro-death penalty pro-Patriot Act candidate.
 
It's almost like niggas are supporting him just to be "Cool" and show that they are some sort of psuedo intellectual that do not need to vote for Obama just because they're black. Ron Paul is a idiot racist that has no chance to win. It's like voting for Ralph Nadar all over again. I swear I don't get you mothafuckas. What is so great about Ron Paul? Admit it, you're just supporting him because you don't want to look like the typical "Negro" voting for Obama. Coon ass mothafuckas.

I feel you boss...just goes to show how backwards some niggas are...
 
Peace,

As you well know, Obama's plan is to gradually scale back troops - which is EXACTLY what Edwards would do, despite what he claims.

At any rate, how does voting to fund troops (any other vote would have been viewed as undermining the military, btw) equate to voting to send them to Iraq in the first place?

Also, one could argue that Reagan's kneejerk acceptance of pseudoscience did, indeed, affect the way he performed his duties. His "diplomacy" with the USSR was faith-based according to him and those who knew him. Billions of people were simply fortunate that his peculiar "faith" didn't bring about WWIII.

As far as the issues go, Edwards is a run-of-the-mill pro-life, pro-death penalty pro-Patriot Act candidate.

Dude give it a rest, you don't know what edwards or obama will or won't do until they do it. In the mean time we can only go by what the candidate says they will do, And the fact of the matter is Edwards and Kucinich has said he will withdrawal all troops, and Obama says he will leave residual troops. If i agreed with obama on the issues then i'd vote for him obviously. Its not that difficult to understand.
 
Dude give it a rest, you don't know what edwards or obama will or won't do until they do it. In the mean time we can only go by what the candidate says they will do, And the fact of the matter is Edwards and Kucinich has said he will withdrawal all troops, and Obama says he will leave residual troops. If i agreed with obama on the issues then i'd vote for him obviously. Its not that difficult to understand.

Peace,

Then why are you having problems understanding it? We DO know what Edwards has DONE. What more do we need to see? How simple is it for a two-faced politician to "regret" doing something after it comes back and bites him (and, in this case, all of us) in the ass? I suppose you believe that he really intends to focus on leveling the economic playing field for the poor should he get elected as well...because he said it. :rolleyes:
 
Peace,

Then why are you having problems understanding it? We DO know what Edwards has DONE. What more do we need to see? How simple is it for a two-faced politician to "regret" doing something after it comes back and bites him (and, in this case, all of us) in the ass? I suppose you believe that he really intends to focus on leveling the economic playing field for the poor should he get elected as well...because he said it. :rolleyes:

If its so easy to regret the war vote then why hasn't hillary apologized for her vote? Edwards was the first to apologize for his vote even before Biden and Dodd.And as i said before Obama has voted to fund the war up untill mid last year, despite him supposedly being against it, when hillary challenged him on that in the debates he couldn't even answer.

And i suppose you expect Obama to do all the shit he says he'll do which is still status Quo. Since when did people stop going by the candidates word when evaluating them? So in other words your saying everyone else is Naive when expecting there candidate to follow through on there words, but somehow you and Obama is the exception?

Edwards isn't even my final choice, but as it stands now hes still a better candidate on the issues than Obama. Like i said before it aint that difficult, if obama is your guy then vote for him, but don't act like hes not status quo.

Discussion is over, this is obviously going nowhere. Just vote for your guy and i'll vote for whoever i choose.
 
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Whats the conspiracy?
The North American Superhighway? The Amero replacing the dollar? The Tri lateral Commision? The Federal Bank not being a government institution that got in on some shady biz?

You've been reading on Storm Front for too too long. You ever
heard of Progress? The Amero replacing the dollar is probably a good thing, as for the Superhighway, what's so bad about opening up to borders. I think that if there's cooperation between Mexico and the U.S. and the Canada, it might be a good thing. I've yet to lose my job to any immigrant so I don't care for anti-immigration advocates. They're just pissed that so many minorities are taking their jobs, I don't see why you don't question them ? Not too long ago, those Conspiracy buffs were the KKK
 
look people think that eliminating the IRS and the Fed is going to help your pockets, wrong, they already have the power and money consolidated in big businesses and corporations, unless you;re willing to redistribute that as well it is only going to hirt the average person. there are issues such as universal health care- obviously the free market cannot solve that because if it could we would have already had the problem solved. people need to look at what is going to be good for everyone and not just themselves. I have a friend who wont vote for hillary because she wants to change lending practices that would benefit most people but hurt his investments- to me that's selfish sometimes you have to sacrifice some of your personal desires for the betterment of the group. I don't think ron paul has solutions for the majority of america.


Exactly, but the thing about Universal Healthcare is that they're not even willing to give a damn try. Fuck the Medicaid/Medicare argument, goddamnit, it's UHC. I wanna give it a trial run and see how it works, For Crying out Loud.

RON PAUL is just another right-wing Nut that would talk shit about your behind closed doors and lead this country backwards to the 1800s
 
Yup, that's about it. Folks aint thinking about the message, but what the messenger may or may not have said. The damn Mexican Peso is about 10 to 1, and the Canadian Dollar is on par with the US dollar, but it wasn't before Bush's dumbass war. The dollar is getting more and more worthless, each day. Folks still think the Federal Reserve is part of the US gov't, LOL.
 
Yup, that's about it. Folks aint thinking about the message, but what the messenger may or may not have said. The damn Mexican Peso is about 10 to 1, and the Canadian Dollar is on par with the US dollar, but it wasn't before Bush's dumbass war. The dollar is getting more and more worthless, each day. Folks still think the Federal Reserve is part of the US gov't, LOL.

i agree the fed resrv aint a part of the US govrmnt but dam dog aint the message what the messenger may or may not have said?:confused:
 
It's almost like niggas are supporting him just to be "Cool" and show that they are some sort of psuedo intellectual that do not need to vote for Obama just because they're black. Ron Paul is a idiot racist that has no chance to win. It's like voting for Ralph Nadar all over again. I swear I don't get you mothafuckas. What is so great about Ron Paul? Admit it, you're just supporting him because you don't want to look like the typical "Negro" voting for Obama. Coon ass mothafuckas.

This guy sounded like an incoherent jackass at the last debate; it was an embarrassing sight to see.
 
i agree the fed resrv aint a part of the US govrmnt but dam dog aint the message what the messenger may or may not have said?:confused:
Well, I'm looking at things in totality. Is Paul a racist? maybe. Shit the only candidate that might not be a racist is Obama, LOL.

Let's look at this brief timeline.

Paul gets more money in the last quarter than any candidate

Paul is blocked by Faux news from the debate

Paul is invited by Jay Leno to come to the tonight show to speak on it

The New Republic, (neocons), put out a hit piece on Paul.

Obviously, the establishment is very threatened and they are using the softball approach, to knock Paul out, because he is talking about stuff different than what the establishment wants. Closing the borders, bringing the troops home, not just Iraq but Germany and other places and having a sound economic policy. So, that's what I mean about the message, not the messenger.
 
his position on the fed reserve and his position on not only the war but empire building.

His position on the IRS and taxes in general

His position on the war on drugs and the prison industrial complex

His examination of the so called 2 party system, and how undemocratic the political process we have now is.

I'll admit,Most of the time Libertarian types may be a bit over reaching in their ideals.I don't personally believe in letting the free market handle EVERYTHING, but they provide a wealth of knowledge and othey are usually extremely learned on history and economics. Whether you like him of not, he brings important issues into discussion.

And yes. there is a chance he may be a white supremacist, but I never make the mistake of assuming that any of the politicians on that level aren't

This is why I like what Paul is saying... Thanks for saying it Brother
 
It's almost like niggas are supporting him just to be "Cool" and show that they are some sort of psuedo intellectual that do not need to vote for Obama just because they're black. Ron Paul is a idiot racist that has no chance to win. It's like voting for Ralph Nadar all over again. I swear I don't get you mothafuckas. What is so great about Ron Paul? Admit it, you're just supporting him because you don't want to look like the typical "Negro" voting for Obama. Coon ass mothafuckas.

Why do black people make such general statements. I bet he does not rate with 1% of black voters. So why the hell did you start a thread on him. In the Iowa race 0% of blacks voted republican even though polls suggested Ron Paul had huge black support. Obama had 79% black support.

White people wanted you to believe that shit and you fell for it.
 
Why do black people make such general statements. I bet he does not rate with 1% of black voters. So why the hell did you start a thread on him. In the Iowa race 0% of blacks voted republican even though polls suggested Ron Paul had huge black support. Obama had 79% black support.

White people wanted you to believe that shit and you fell for it.

Are you drunk or High? Who the fuck said anything about what white people want me to believe? I deal with reality.
 
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