Why are most Airplanes painted white? Is painting them Black bad luck?

Mainly airliners are painted white when they go in to long term storage. White paint refelxs the heat that builds up in parked aircaft. Once a plane is returned (RTS) Than the white is either sanded and repainted or just or sent to the new owner or leasee as is.
 
Mainly airliners are painted white when they go in to long term storage. White paint refelxs the heat that builds up in parked aircaft. Once a plane is returned (RTS) Than the white is either sanded and repainted or just or sent to the new owner or leasee as is.
 
Keep walking down the path hand in hand with Nzinga. It's like the mistaken leading the blind.

Too bad you don't even do a cursory search to check the information you're co-signing on if you're not sure of the subject matter.

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Nigga please show me where it says white paint is SIGNIFICANTLY lighter in weight than other paint colors...stfu...as dudes said it's an issue of cost and visibility...fuck outta here...
 
What you see is light. If it is white, it is because the paint reflects all the primary colour equally. Elementary chromatography...If you were an engineer, and had learned how colours are created on screen, you would know this;

RGB_illumination.jpg


Since I am tired of educating you​

Again, you're confusing two concepts.

I'm not talking about light reflection and absorption. I'm talking about the weight and pigments needed to produce a certain paint color.


White light contains all colors.
White paint may only contain one or two pigments (powdered Titanium Dixode and a binder) and thus contains less pigmentation and additives vs. other colors.

For instance, when I painted my motorcycle I used House of Kolors paint.
The Grey laid thicker and heavier I had to use a solvent to cut it because it had more pigment ingredients which was required to produce the color gray.

The white base coat I used, needed no solvent and was much lighter (weight)
because it only had one or two pigments.


Look at it like this: If you had a finely tuned scale, which do you think would weigh more? A one gallon bottle of water or a one gallon bottle of Soda?

Water weighs about 7lbs / gallon. But Soda, you've got to add weight for the Water + Corn Syrup + Food Coloring + Flavorings.

In this case, Water = White Paint.
Soda = Other Paint Colors.
 
Nigga please show me where it says white paint is SIGNIFICANTLY lighter in weight than other paint colors...stfu...as dudes said it's an issue of cost and visibility...fuck outta here...

Again, do your research.
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/88587/

AA claimed an average fuel savings of $40,000+ per aircraft per year by not painting the fuselage in their investor meeting.

I remember asking a mechanic why was white used for the belly and he said that white paint is lighter in weight than dark colours and is more cost effective.

Estimates I can find for the paint on a completely-painted 747 run from 500 to 1200 pounds. Many airlines leave a lot of aluminum bare to avoid both the cost of the paint and labor to apply it, and to avoid burning more fuel and giving up payload to carry it around
 
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Dude you really need to change your bong water.

Yea I know. Just some random shit that was running through my mind while watching Malcom X and smoking a joint.

When I saw the scene about the word black in the Dictionary. I just happened to be thinking about airplanes for some reason.

So I was said(In my angry black man Eddie Murphy voice). Oh shit how come they never paint planes black. What they scared they gonna jinx them and fall out the sky. Racist Motherfuckas. They should have never legalized weed in my state.:smh:
 

Bro...in that same thread someone said brown paint is lighter than white...what you posted was what a bitch claims she heard from a mechanic...and a few other posts in that same thread refute that the weight difference is significant enough to be the reason why planes are white...like I said abstract bullshit...you using those quotes is like me using quotes from BGOL to prove a point...

I don't have confirmation but I remember asking a mechanic why was white used for the belly and he said that white paint is lighter in weight than dark colours and is more cost effective.

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And the 2nd quote you used they was talking about paint in general NOT white paint...of course paint used to cover an entire plane will weigh a lot nigga...
 
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Again, you're confusing two concepts.

I'm not talking about light reflection and absorption. I'm talking about the weight and pigments needed to produce a certain paint color.


White light contains all colors.
White paint may only contain one or two pigments (powdered Titanium Dixode and a binder) and thus contains less pigmentation and additives vs. other colors.

For instance, when I painted my motorcycle I used House of Kolors paint.
The Grey laid thicker and heavier I had to use a solvent to cut it because it had more pigment ingredients which was required to produce the color gray.

The white base coat I used, needed no solvent and was much lighter (weight)
because it only had one or two pigments.


Look at it like this: If you had a finely tuned scale, which do you think would weigh more? A one gallon bottle of water or a one gallon bottle of Soda?

Water weighs about 7lbs / gallon. But Soda, you've got to add weight for the Water + Corn Syrup + Food Coloring + Flavorings.

In this case, Water = White Paint.
Soda = Other Paint Colors.


I feel sorry for you...
 
Anyway, the reason why planes maybe painted white is because of the same reason why your fridge is normally white... To regulate the interior temperature and keep them cool. Apparently, this discovery was made in the 1950s ...
 
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Bro...in that same thread someone said brown paint is lighter than white...what you posted was what a bitch claims she heard from a mechanic...and a few other posts in that same thread refute that the weight difference is significant enough to be the reason why planes are white...like I said abstract bullshit...you using those quotes is like me using quotes from BGOL to prove a point...

In this thread someone is implying LIGHT has weight (Psst..it's the person you're following).

Just because you have one voice in the crowd dissenting, that goes against pretty common knowledge for ANY painter, it doesn't make them right.

You need to look at things wholistically and from an P&L standpoint.

The weight difference between a gallon of white paint and a gallon of colored paint is fractional, yes.

But multiply those fractions by hundred (s) of gallons of paint it takes to paint a plain and it adds up.

Then take that amount of weight, multiply that by the per lbs fuel burn rating of the jet, and multiply the cost of jet fuel and sudden you see how much those little weight fractions end up costing in the tens of thousands over the service life of the plane.

Jet fuel is one largest variable expense of any airline and they do everything they can to cut back on those costs within FAA regs.
 
In this thread someone is implying LIGHT has weight (Psst..it's the person you're following).

Just because you have one voice in the crowd dissenting, that goes against pretty common knowledge for ANY painter, it doesn't make them right.

You need to look at things wholistically and from an P&L standpoint.

The weight difference between a gallon of white paint and a gallon of colored paint is fractional, yes.

But multiply those fractions by hundred (s) of gallons of paint it takes to paint a plain and it adds up.

Then take that amount of weight, multiply that by the per lbs fuel burn rating of the jet, and multiply the cost of jet fuel and sudden you see how much those little weight fractions end up costing in the tens of thousands over the service life of the plane.

Jet fuel is one largest variable expense of any airline and they do everything they can to cut back on those costs within FAA regs.

The manufacture of a paint is but a chemical process. You can go into a paint store and buy an colour of paint for the same amount for equal volumes and weights of paint. The crap that white paint is heavier than other paints has not basis in fact, and would be an insignificant consideration to an airline weigning 3- 500 tons....

The only reason why is to regulate heat, a discovery made by civil aviators in the 1950s. That is it. White reflects heat and helps with maintaining an even interior temperature for a plane. A passenger plane, carrying hundreds of people presents partiicular temperature regulation problems owing to the emission of heat by so many people. On the other hand, cargo craft, military planes etc, seldom need the white colouring because their payload is seldom heat generating..

More education for you numbnuts..
 
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In this thread someone is implying LIGHT has weight (Psst..it's the person you're following).

Just because you have one voice in the crowd dissenting, that goes against pretty common knowledge for ANY painter, it doesn't make them right.

You need to look at things wholistically and from an P&L standpoint.

The weight difference between a gallon of white paint and a gallon of colored paint is fractional, yes.

But multiply those fractions by hundred (s) of gallons of paint it takes to paint a plain and it adds up.

Then take that amount of weight, multiply that by the per lbs fuel burn rating of the jet, and multiply the cost of jet fuel and sudden you see how much those little weight fractions end up costing in the tens of thousands over the service life of the plane.

Jet fuel is one largest variable expense of any airline and they do everything they can to cut back on those costs within FAA regs.

I never c/sed Nzinga...he responded to your comment and I made it clear which portion of your comment I didn't agree w/...and the link/forum you posted did nothing to prove your comment...matter of fact it backs up what I said...the weight of white paint is not a significant factor in painting planes white...you can try to convolute the argument w/ your muddling bullshit but my point is clear...

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And to add insult to injury...that 1 chic is the only person who claiming what you saying and she is not even sure of it...there's another dude who even said white paint is the heaviest...so you ain't really said half of shit bro...
 
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I feel sorry for you...

If you don't understand basic chemistry, than I feel sorry for you. Two liquids in suspension may weigh completely different amounts although they both basically appear to be the same substance and behave in a similar manner.

H20 vs D20 for example.

Anyway, the reason why planes maybe painted white is because of the same reason why your fridge is normally white... To regulate the interior temperature and keep them cool. Apparently, this discovery was made in the 1950s ...

Correct. One of the reasons.
 
If you don't understand basic chemistry, than I feel sorry for you. Two liquids in suspension may weigh completely different amounts although they both basically appear to be the same substance and behave in a similar manner.

H20 vs D20 for example.



Correct. One of the reasons.

Actually I do; I called my friend Henry who happens to be a process manager for Pittburgh paints. I asked him this question and he dismissed the nonsense. There is no chemistry anywhere, that says that the compound for making a particular colour needs to produce a heavy paint. That is bullshit I knew before I even asked him. Fruthermore, there are many ways to manufacture every different colour. I talked to him, because the he is an avid African music fan with whom we exchange MP3s. I talk to him almost every week...so me talking to him is not out of the ordinary. He should know; he is an excellent chemist, trained in Africa, Russia and Univ of Texas in Austin. He has two master degrees in chemistry, one from Russia one from the USA.

You do not know science. The stuff that you wrote should not come out of a the mouth of a grade 9. How can you not know that colour we see is the result of that wave length of light being reflected and everything else being absorbed? How?
 
You do not know anything. The manufacture of a paint is but a chemical process. You can go into a paint store and buy an colour of paint for the same amount for equal volumes and weights of paint.

And here's where I stop you. It just proves to me that you know nothing about basic paint or painting. All paint colors ARE NOT the same amount for equal volumes.


The crap that white paint is heavier than other paints has not basis in fact, and would be an insignificant consideration to an airline weigning 3- 500 tons....

Planes engineers and airliness take every lbs into consideration. If you don't know this, then you know nothing about planes.

The only reason why is to regulate heat, a discovery made by civil aviators in the 1950s. That is it. White reflects heat and helps with maintaining an even interior temperature for a plane. A passenger plane, carrying hundreds of people presents partiicular temperature regulation problems owing to the emission of heat by so many people. On the other hand, cargo craft, military planes etc, seldom need the white colouring because their payload is seldom heat generating..

More education for you numbnuts..

Numbnuts, Mil-Spec carrier airwing planes aren't painted white because they'd be a big dumb, volumous light reflecting target in the sky.
 
Actually I do; I called my friend Henry who happens to be a process manager for Pittburgh paints. I asked him this question and he dismissed the nonsense. There is no chemistry anywhere, that says that the compound for making a particular colour needs to be heavy. There are many ways to manufacture every different colour. I talk to him, because the he is an avid African music fan with whom we exchange MP3s. I talk to him almost every week...

You do not know science. The stuff that you wrote should not come out of a the mouth of a grade 9. How can you not know that colour we see is the result of that wave length of light being reflected and everything else being absorbed? How?

Oh shit...Henry? Henry from Pittsburgh Paints...? Tell that nigga I said whassup!!!
 
Things that make you say Hmmmmm.

Was watching Malcolm X today and the scene came on when the guy was showing Malcolm how the word black was portrayed negatively in the Dictionary page by page.

If I were President, I wouldn't paint the White House black. But if I were a Super Billionaire, I would definitely paint my 747 private plane "Jet Black" with a picture of Malcolm X on the tail. How come rich black people have never done this? I'm guessing in Aviation it might be bad luck to paint something that floats in the sky black. Any truth to this?

:hmm::hmm::hmm:
 
Oh shit...Henry? Henry from Pittsburgh Paints...? Tell that nigga I said whassup!!!

That is his middle name; His first and last names are African. However his brainwashed father insists on calling calling him by the European name as do his brothers and sisters. He however will not let anyone not close to him call him by that name, and when I met him years ago, it was a big issue. Now it is no big deal. He and I are collaborating on writing a book on African music... If you ever meet him out there in the North East where he lives, call him Lenga, otherwise you might lose your teeth
 
That is his middle name; His first and last names are African. However his brainwashed father insists on calling calling him by the European name as do his brothers and sisters. He however will not let anyone not close to him call him by that name, and when I met him years ago, it was a big issue. Now it is no big deal. He and I are collaborating on writing a book on African music... If you ever meet him out there in the North East where he lives, call him Lenga, otherwise you might lose your teeth

Ok then... :lol:
 
Actually I do; I called my friend Henry who happens to be a process manager for Pittburgh paints. I asked him this question and he dismissed the nonsense. There is no chemistry anywhere, that says that the compound for making a particular colour needs to produce a heavy paint. That is bullshit I knew before I even asked him. Fruthermore, there are many ways to manufacture every different colour. I talked to him, because the he is an avid African music fan with whom we exchange MP3s. I talk to him almost every week...so me talking to him is not out of the ordinary. He should know; he is an excellent chemist, trained in Africa, Russia and Univ of Texas in Austin. He has two master degrees in chemistry, one from Russia one from the USA.

You do not know science. The stuff that you wrote should not come out of a the mouth of a grade 9. How can you not know that colour we see is the result of that wave length of light being reflected and everything else being absorbed? How?

LMAO! Your friend Henry, the African paint chemist who studied in Russia and Austin, and currently works in Pittsburgh.

LMAO! If that ain't he bigges Kayser Soze story I don't know what is.
If you would have said your friend Google who lives in Silicon Valley, I would have at least given you credit for being honest.

My Chemistry is pretty solid. I never mentioned anything about how light is perceived by the eye so I don't know where you're coming from. That's completely off topic and I did not mention it.
 
Ok then... :lol:

We have been on hold on writing the book for 5 years because neither one of us has a background in music. The backbone of the whole process needs to be someone with a strong background in music otherwise the music experts will cut our scholarship alive. We have been waiting for out guy to help us. He got his PhD in music, but he also got a teaching job that so far has not allowed him the time to review what we have so far put down...
 
LMAO! Your friend Henry, the African paint chemist who studied in Russia and Austin, and currently works in Pittsburgh.

LMAO! If that ain't he bigges Kayser Soze story I don't know what is.
If you would have said your friend Google who lives in Silicon Valley, I would have at least given you credit for being honest.

My Chemistry is pretty solid. I never mentioned anything about how light is perceived by the eye so I don't know where you're coming from. That's completely off topic and I did not mention it.

Blithering ignoramus...Yesterday, I mentioned Werner Heisenberg, and then you invoked the names some obscure people whom no scientists know... Today, you spout crap that has absolutely no scientific basis.. So it happens that coincidentally, one of my friends has been working for Pittburg paints for more than 15 years. I talk to him almost every other day. I called him and asked him about the weights of paints...and he rubbished your claims.

It is like the crap you were talking about; what you do not realise is that two of my brothers are nuclear physicists, and I am solid state engineer. Talking to you, it is clear you know nothing. Zilch zero...
 
We have been on hold on writing the book for 5 years because neither one of us has a background in music. The backbone of the whole process needs to be someone with a strong background in music otherwise the music experts will cut our scholarship alive. We have been waiting for out guy to help us. He got his PhD in music, but he also got a teaching job that so far has not allowed him the time to review what we have so far put down...

Dude no disrespect by why you telling me all this...? :lol:
 
I would think they use white because of the way it relexes light and heat. That would make it more efficient for cabin air conditioning when closer to the sun. Also a cooler plane would run more efficiently. Similar to a cooler car.
 
I would think they use white because of the way it relexes light and heat. That would make it more efficient for cabin air conditioning when closer to the sun. Also a cooler plane would run more efficiently. Similar to a cooler car.

You are absolutely right.
 
Blithering ignoramus...Yesterday, I mentioned Werner Heisenberg, and then you invoked the names some obscure people whom no scientists know... Today, you spout crap that has absolutely no scientific basis.. So it happens that coincidentally, one of my friends has been working for Pittburg paints for more than 15 years. I talk to him almost every other day. I called him and asked him about the weights of paints...and he rubbished your claims.

It is like the crap you were talking about; what you do not realise is that two of my brothers are nuclear physicists, and I am solid state engineer. Talking to you, it is clear you know nothing. Zilch zero...

Nzinga: "Blah blah blah -- Google said. Blah blah blah -- If I remember, Google told me. Google is google."
 
Nzinga: "Blah blah blah -- Google said. Blah blah blah -- If I remember, Google told me. Google is google."

Never argue with a fool people may not notice the difference. When my brother got his PhD in physics, he rented a house from a cac in the southern UK as he did his post doc. Well, the cac had a son, a high school dropout, who was as ignorant and outspoken about matters on which he was absolutely ignorant, just like you are.

My bro was a postdoc student...and this cac, challenged everything he said on physics. In his mind, he was a cac, therefore he had to know more than an African. You have the same condescending mentality, thinking somehow, that you know everything, including things which you have absolute ignorance about.

I am different from you. I am very outspoken about things I know. These are electrical engineering and physics, African music, history, culture, politic, economics and social affairs. I am also a student of world economics... though I do not profess any expertise in that area. Beyond that, you will not find me participating in 90% of the threads. I do not know enough about them. That is why I have such a low post count, in spite of being one of the longest subscribing members to this forum.

One of my teachers(a cac from Sweden) told me that sometimes, it is alright to say I do not know. And even in the last 2 days, as the case was with name Lakisha, I admitted I did not know enough Swahili to judge the claims that were made... You on the other hand would have concocted a lie of one kind or another. Why?
 
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^^^what don't you have a story of fable for Nzinga. :rolleyes:
You should write a book.
Your own Illiad or collection of short stories. Perhaps be the new Chinua Achebe.

The fact that you're always yelping about the degrees you have, or the PhD's you know, or what you do basically points to some glaring and underlying insecurities.

I think I was the same way for the first year or so out of college too - but I eventually grew out of it. Perhaps you will too at some point.
 
^^^what don't you have a story of fable for Nzinga. :rolleyes:
You should write a book.
Your own Illiad or collection of short stories. Perhaps be the new Chinua Achebe.

The fact that you're always yelping about the degrees you have, or the PhD's you know, or what you do basically points to some glaring and underlying insecurities.

I think I was the same way for the first year or so out of college too - but I eventually grew out of it. Perhaps you will too at some point.


Are you hating?
 
It literally takes thousands of pounds of paint to cover a plane and it adds weight.

White paint contains the least pigments and is lighter which means less fuel cost over time.

White paint also easily shows any flaws or cracks in the aluminum (should they appear).

And finally, white paint is reflective so it helps keep the cabin cool. Anyone who's even been on a plane when they shut the A/C off knows how goddamn hot they get. Now imagine being 30,000ft in the air (closer to the sun) with absolutely NO cover or shade.

knowledge!
 
That is his middle name; His first and last names are African. However his brainwashed father insists on calling calling him by the European name as do his brothers and sisters. He however will not let anyone not close to him call him by that name, and when I met him years ago, it was a big issue. Now it is no big deal. He and I are collaborating on writing a book on African music... If you ever meet him out there in the North East where he lives, call him Lenga, otherwise you might lose your teeth

Man just stop:lol:
 
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