Why are DC fans so angry at anyone who criticizes DC movies? (tical Pre Approved)

[Darrkman]

None of y'all see the real reason the DCU movies are failing.

Neither Snyder nor Nolan...

...like superheroes. In fact they obviously hate them.

Snyder made a Superman with none of the innocent optimism we've grown to love, and Nolan made a Batman who was more James Bond than Dark Knight Detective.

Neither of them were intimately familiar with the source material before they worked on the movies.

At the helm you have 2 creatives who don't like super empowered beings saving the day instead of fanboys making love letters to icons with legions of fans.

And isn't that the whole point of this?

Actually Snyder has admitted this. He finds superheros silly.

However.....i did enjoy Man of Steel. Except for the muted colors. I didn't realize how bad it was until I came back from Justice League and saw MofS on cable. The entire movie is in a drab blue shifted color.

 

[playahaitian]

First, they(WB) need to get rid of the arrogance. Meaning if you ever listen to Feige he stated that they couldn't afford to fuck up with the 1st Ironman movie. They weren't DC and didn't have the trinity(Sups, Bats, WW). Thus they took their time to craft the best story and decided current and future projects with great thought.

It's been reported that these WB executives where like we have the trinity(Sups, Bats, WW) therefore we could put whatever story we want out there and people will automatically support it. Of course, they were right to a degree but clearly, that's not enough and that's what we are seeing now. You can have the characters but if your story and trajectory ain't right it won't matter.

You mentioned Jon Favreaus they have Berg and Goeff Johns. The question is will these execs but their immediate greed aside for $$$ and let these movies naturally evolve?


I was not a fan of BvS as presented I wanted World's Finest. Batman fighing Superman for an entire movie...arggh that's fan boy stuff but not for a GA that love these characters. But hey maybe they could pull it off. Then they announced JL and I was like what the fuck? All this to avoid the solo movies first to avoid being like Marvel?

It could have worked but they rushed it with that same arrogant thinking and reactionary process..Fuck it up!

Welcome home fam....

 

[tical]

Actually Snyder has admitted this. He finds superheros silly.

However.....i did enjoy Man of Steel. Except for the muted colors. I didn't realize how bad it was until I came back from Justice League and saw MofS on cable. The entire movie is in a drab blue shifted color.

No! No! No! You're misquoting the man. He doesn't find Superheroes silly per say..He finds the notion of Superheroes sitting in their costumes having a conversation silly.

I may have been wrong about you if you enjoyed Man of Steel. The "muted colors" are for a reason just like the filming without the use of the stabilizing tripod and other rig apparatus.

The rationale behind that movie down to why it looks the way it does is so DOPE! Looka here....

I might write a thread on why Man of Steel is top 5 CBM origin story ever.

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

No! No! No! You're misquoting the man. He doesn't find Superheroes silly per say..He finds the notion of Superheroes sitting in their costumes having a conversation silly.

I may have been wrong about you if you enjoyed Man of Steel. The "muted colors" are for a reason just like the filming without the use of the stabilizing tripod and other rig apparatus.

The rationale behind that movie down to why it looks the way it does is so DOPE! Looka here....

I might write a thread on why Man of Steel is top 5 CBM origin story ever.

Snyder thinks superheroes suck period.

There is no love or joy displayed in mos.

There's no celebration of the extraordinary.

There's no attention paid to the exploration of Supermans powers.

Zack ain't interested in that, cause Zack doesn't even like superheroes.

That's why it was met with lukewarm reception.

 

[Darrkman]

No! No! No! You're misquoting the man. He doesn't find Superheroes silly per say..He finds the notion of Superheroes sitting in their costumes having a conversation silly.

I may have been wrong about you if you enjoyed Man of Steel. The "muted colors" are for a reason just like the filming without the use of the stabilizing tripod and other rig apparatus.

The rationale behind that movie down to why it looks the way it does is so DOPE! Looka here....

I might write a thread on why Man of Steel is top 5 CBM origin story ever.

Man stop it. The muted colors sucked. Everytime the movie is on FX I get all upset cause I think my 4K tv is fucking up.

I enjoyed the special effects, I enjoyed how Zod was portrayed and I enjoyed the fight in the city and the realistic way it portrayed the damage to the city from a Kryptonian fight.

Also she damn near saved the movie:

 

[tical]

Man stop it. The muted colors sucked. Everytime the movie is on FX I get all upset cause I think my 4K tv is fucking up.

I enjoyed the special effects, I enjoyed how Zod was portrayed and I enjoyed the fight in the city and the realistic way it portrayed the damage to the city from a Kryptonian fight.

Also she damn near saved the movie:

This is what you get for trying to break bread with some folks day after Turkey day! They spit on your extend hand and definitely don't respect your opinion.

So, IYO a professional director for a 100M film decides to "mute" the colors as you say just for the hell of it? It has nothing to do with the story? It brings nothing to the environment he wishes to create for telling that story? It in itself isn't informing the audience? It does nothing for the setting? It has no intention?

That's what you're saying and your comfortable expressing that thought?

 

[Darrkman]

This is what you get for trying to break bread with some folks day after Turkey day! They spit on your extend hand and definitely don't respect your opinion.

Nah you set the tone with that "Need to rethink you" comment.

You're making excuses for the muted colors. The movie looks washed out and it takes away from it. Now it works if its a movie like the Matrix where they try to show the difference between the real world and the Matrix but for Superman it doesn't.

However.......tell us why the muted colors in MOS work? What does it add to the movie?

 

[tical]

Nah you set the tone with that "Need to rethink you" comment.

You're making excuses for the muted colors. The movie looks washed out and it takes away from it. Now it works if its a movie like the Matrix where they try to show the difference between the real world and the Matrix but for Superman it doesn't.

However.......tell us why the muted colors in MOS work? What does it add to the movie?

Fam,

There are only two premises here.

1) Your premise which is the "muted colors" serves no purpose.
Because either
A) I don't understand the purpose so therefore they serve none
B) I know more about "cinematography" and "script writing" and intent for this piece and the Director fucked up!

2) My perspective which is the "muted colors" does serve a purpose.
Because either
A) The Director knows a whole lot more than you or I when it comes to cinematography
B) The scriptwriter in David Goyer intended for the "muted colors" to complement his story.

 

[Darrkman]

Fam,

There are only two premises here.

1) Your premise which is the "muted colors" serves no purpose.
Because either
A) I don't understand the purpose so therefore they serve none
B) I know more about "cinematography" and "script writing" and intent for this piece and the Director fucked up!

2) My perspective which is the "muted colors" does serve a purpose.
Because either
A) The Director knows a whole lot more than you or I when it comes to cinematography
B) The scriptwriter in David Goyer intended for the "muted colors" to complement his story.

You haven't answered the question. What you just tried to do is say "Well since you don't know you must not get it."

Bullshit.

Once again.....what purpose did the muted colors serve in the movie? Lets see if you can give any answer that doesn't prove that you don't have a clue either and just talking out your ass.

 

[tical]

You haven't answered the question. What you just tried to do is say "Well since you don't know you must not get it."

Bullshit.

Once again.....what purpose did the muted colors serve in the movie? Lets see if you can give any answer that doesn't prove that you don't have a clue either and just talking out your ass.

You're the one that started by implying it served no purpose. Thus the onus is on you to explain why not?

Of course, you're fucked almost immediately, because now you have to call precedence or invoke your own to fully articulate your claim. Which calls for going beyond mere opinion and now venturing into technical know-how which supersedes the skillset of Director in Synder, Cinematographer in Amir and Writer in Goyer. Hell, I'll even throw in Hans in there and not tell you why.

As a huge Superman fan I've spent time researching why Man of Steel, Why that environment, Why that setting, Why that lighting, Why that scene, Why that camera angle, Why that camera, Why that story, Why that sound etc etc.

What you so easily dismiss as irrelevant brilliantly has relevance and incredible connective tissue.

I have my information and backing. Where's yours? You brought the claim. Now let's see if you can dance? The floor is all yours.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

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[Darrkman]

You're the one that started by implying it served no purpose. Thus the onus is on you to explain why not?

Of course, you're fucked almost immediately, because now you have to call precedence or invoke your own to fully articulate your claim. Which calls for going beyond mere opinion and now venturing into technical know-how which supersedes the skillset of Director in Synder, Cinematographer in Amir and Writer in Goyer. Hell, I'll even throw in Hans in there and not tell you why.

As a huge Superman fan I've spent time researching why Man of Steel, Why that environment, Why that setting, Why that lighting, Why that scene, Why that camera angle, Why that camera, Why that story, Why that sound etc etc.

What you so easily dismiss as irrelevant brilliantly has relevance and incredible connective tissue.

I have my information and backing. Where's yours? You brought the claim. Now let's see if you can dance? The floor is all yours.

You still haven't answered the question and you won't admit you don't know.

 

[tical]

You still haven't answered the question and you won't admit you don't know.

As expected clown shit! Don’t ever make a claim you can’t defend.

 

[TimRock]

https://geektyrant.com/news/there-will-be-7-marvel-films-released-before-dcs-next-film

• Deadpool 2
• Black Panther
• The New Mutants
• Ant-Man 2
• Avengers: Infinity War
• X-Men: Dark Phoenix
• Venom

 

[tical]

https://geektyrant.com/news/there-will-be-7-marvel-films-released-before-dcs-next-film

• Deadpool 2
• Black Panther
• The New Mutants
• Ant-Man 2
• Avengers: Infinity War
• X-Men: Dark Phoenix
• Venom

Deadpool, X-men, The New Mutants, Venom are Marvel movies? Help me understand TimRock

 

[TimRock]

Deadpool, X-men, The New Mutants, Venom are Marvel movies? Help me understand TimRock

Marvel character movies.

 

[tical]

Marvel character movies.

Lol..but that’s not what the title says! Curious does Fox and Sony advertise them as “Marvel Movies?”

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

It’s fine but like you said it requires a bigger overlaying thread. At this point even Aquaman is at risk. Not because James Wan isn’t a competent director. But because of the negative snowball effect from these current movies.

But WW through Patty Jenkins showed it’s still possible for good reception for directors not named Synder. So there is hope.

Question, what do the heads of WB/DC have planned after Aquaman?

What’s the slate? Donthe movies tie together or have some semblance of cohesiveness?

That’s the problem. It requires patience and foresight and sticking to that overarching vision no matter what.

There's a Lobo,Black Adam,Shazam,a Cyborg (even though it will be more a team up movie with Flash)Deathstroke,Harley Quinn,Nightwing,Gotham City Sirens,Batgirl,Flashpoint and Justice League Dark in the works.....

I think there will be Batman movies in the future,but Ben Affleck won't play as Batman when they start production....I heard,Warner Bros want to get a young actor to play as Batman.

 

[tical]

There's a Lobo,Black Adam,Shazam,a Cyborg (even though it will be more a team up movie with Flash)Deathstroke,Harley Quinn,Nightwing,Gotham City Sirens,Batgirl,Flashpoint and Justice League Dark in the works.....

I think there will be Batman movies in the future,but Ben Affleck won't play as Batman when they start production....I heard,Warner Bros want to get a young actor to play as Batman.

They have a lot of movies plan and likely will make a few of them. But they need to decide are they going to let these movies breathe and be natural?

For example movies like SS and Deathstroke are pure R-rated. Period! Basically the story should decide what the movie is and nothing else. Not critics nor fans.

WB/DC has proven they will change the nature of their movies just to appease and thus robbing the natural characters and story. For example SS was supposed to be R-rated but they changed it because of MoS Reception as being “Dark” Got-Dammit SS is a dark franchise. we’ve seen what happened to the recent movies.

They’ve morphed into a rudderless studio. Which is terrible because more than any genre CBMs need a clear vision in order to turn out great.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

They have a lot of movies plan and likely will make a few of them. But they need to decide are they going to let these movies breathe and be natural?

For example movies like SS and Deathstroke are pure R-rated. Period! Basically the story should decide what the movie is and nothing else. Not critics nor fans.

WB/DC has proven they will change the nature of their movies just to appease and thus robbing the natural characters and story. For example SS was supposed to be R-rated but they changed it because of MoS Reception as being “Dark” Got-Dammit SS is a dark franchise. we’ve seen what happened to the recent movies.

They’ve morphed into a rudderless studio. Which is terrible because more than any genre CBMs need a clear vision in order to turn out great.

I thought the complaints about MoS and BvS being dark was fucking stupid.

People get on Marvel about their movies being too light-hearted yet when DC has two movies that's dark they complain about it.....shit makes no sense at all...lol

Hell,Batman is suppose to be dark due to how the comics are.


I will say this though,Warner Bros need to get out of the way completely or stop micromanaging shit and let the directors do their jobs.Too many times these executives fuck shit up and make the product inferior and want to be shocked when the movie hasn't done well.....

 

[tical]

I thought the complaints about MoS and BvS being dark was fucking stupid.

People get on Marvel about their movies being too light-hearted yet when DC has two movies that's dark they complain about it.....shit makes no sense at all...lol

Hell,Batman is suppose to be dark due to how the comics are.


I will say this though,Warner Bros need to get out of the way completely or stop micromanaging shit and let the directors do their jobs.Too many times these executives fuck shit up and make the product inferior and want to be shocked when the movie hasn't done well.....

You’ve always been a wise-man. Keep it up!

 

[melonpecan]

Explain your issue with it.

I'm not a DC fan, so I don't know much about the history of the character(s). For me, it was a decent intro into the Green Lantern character. I also don't care much about special effects, so that is a non issue for me as well.

The biggest problem for me and this includes most comic based movies was the villain. However, that was even a decent set up for what could have been the next film or so.

Man where do I start?!

I'm not going to say that CGI is the linchpin of a movie. But when the movie itself feels like 80% CGI, I'm expecting it to be decent and not distracting. Jordan's suit was distracting. I spent most of the movie wondering why it looks like candy than actually watching him doing stuff. And what makes it even more worse, is that the opening set the tone with the bad CGI, the overuse of CGI. I could probably over look it if I got lost in the plot but...

...the plot was boring. The idea that Parallax was there to be freed and destroyed...I had no problem with that. But what happens inbetween Parallax being freed and coming to Earth was meh. But that kind of makes sense since the writer was Berlanti, the one responsible for the DC lineup on the CW. He's used to episodic things, and when I think about it if the movie was shorter in installments, as it was written, it might have paced a little better. There were some parts of the movie that I don't think were needed...for instance Hal's first journey to see the rest of the Lantern Corp. Some parts just made it lag along.

Which brings me to some of the acting. There were some good actors here, Angela Bassett, Tim Robbins, Ryan Reynolds being Ryan Reynolds...but yet nothing here felt engaging. Nothing felt as though it was pulling me in. I could not get invested in this movie. And I watched it two days in a row trying to, (and for those that know me, I don't watch movies back to back. NEVER. EVER.).

This was just a bad movie. I can't blame it all on Berlanti and the script, because there were some shots that were super fake and annoying. But the direction was not as much of a problem here as it appear to be in JL...or let's say....Fantastic Four. It's not one of those porns where they camera on the girls face instead of her pussy. I'm trying to find a metaphor here.

None of y'all see the real reason the DCU movies are failing.

Neither Snyder nor Nolan...

...like superheroes. In fact they obviously hate them.

Snyder made a Superman with none of the innocent optimism we've grown to love, and Nolan made a Batman who was more James Bond than Dark Knight Detective.

Neither of them were intimately familiar with the source material before they worked on the movies.

At the helm you have 2 creatives who don't like super empowered beings saving the day instead of fanboys making love letters to icons with legions of fans.

And isn't that the whole point of this?

You don't have to like superheros/comics to make a movie about them. In fact, I think it's ok as a director because you get to tell this known story through a different set of eyes. As the writer of a comic book movie, you can't do that. But as a person interpreting this script through movement, that perspective, I'm not mad at.

Actually Snyder has admitted this. He finds superheros silly.

However.....i did enjoy Man of Steel. Except for the muted colors. I didn't realize how bad it was until I came back from Justice League and saw MofS on cable. The entire movie is in a drab blue shifted color.

YES.

Man...let me find it.

No! No! No! You're misquoting the man. He doesn't find Superheroes silly per say..He finds the notion of Superheroes sitting in their costumes having a conversation silly.

I may have been wrong about you if you enjoyed Man of Steel. The "muted colors" are for a reason just like the filming without the use of the stabilizing tripod and other rig apparatus.

The rationale behind that movie down to why it looks the way it does is so DOPE! Looka here....

I might write a thread on why Man of Steel is top 5 CBM origin story ever.

Please do.

Man stop it. The muted colors sucked. Everytime the movie is on FX I get all upset cause I think my 4K tv is fucking up.

I enjoyed the special effects, I enjoyed how Zod was portrayed and I enjoyed the fight in the city and the realistic way it portrayed the damage to the city from a Kryptonian fight.

Also she damn near saved the movie:

Zod was one of my favorite parts of MoS. Dude was menacing, he was scary. I wanted more of this Zod. Instead without consent or ceremony we got...whatever that was in PoS.


I couldn't find the original one I watched...but I guess this is good enough

 

[darth frosty]

Lol..but that’s not what the title says! Curious does Fox and Sony advertise them as “Marvel Movies?”

In association with marvel

 

[tical]

In association with marvel

Oh lawd not you too? It didn't say "in association with Marvel" it said Marvel and everyone knows when you say Marvel you're talking about Marvel Studios of DISNEY!

So, in reality, "Marvel" has 3 movies coming out and NOT 7. Basically 2 more movies than WB/DC in 2018. All of a sudden doesn't sound so dominating as the intent was, does it? LOL!

Fox and Sony have 4 movies between them. Thus "Marvel" has 1 movie more than each of those studios.

But yeah the author didn't phrase it and didn't correct it because you know it wasn't an attempt to make things sound more grandiose than they really are. /sarcasm

 

[darth frosty]

Oh lawd not you too? It didn't say "in association with Marvel" it said Marvel and everyone knows when you say Marvel you're talking about Marvel Studios of DISNEY!

So, in reality, "Marvel" has 3 movies coming out and NOT 7
Fox and Sony have 4 movies between them.

But yeah the author didn't phrase it and didn't correct it because you know it wasn't an attempt to pile-on.

Ironically I knew this would be your response before I posted the videos

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

You don't have to like superheros/comics to make a movie about them. In fact, I think it's ok as a director because you get to tell this known story through a different set of eyes. As the writer of a comic book movie, you can't do that. But as a person interpreting this script through movement, that perspective, I'm not mad at.

Mayne please. If you actively hate your subject matter your animosity towards it will be clearly displayed.

These dudes turned Superman into a neck snapper and Batman into a mass murderer.

And their movies sucked.

 

[tical]

Ironically I knew this would be your response before I posted the videos

Tell me is my break-down wrong? Further, I'm i wrong in stating this is just another sensationalized anti-dc article?

 

[melonpecan]

Mayne please. If you actively hate your subject matter your animosity towards it will be clearly displayed.

These dudes turned Superman into a neck snapper and Batman into a mass murderer.

And their movies sucked.

Wait a minute.

In Batman Begins, he didn't even want to kill people, that's why he was going against al Ghoul.

And Superman was trying to do everything to NOT snap Zod's neck. That's why damn near the whole city was demolished cause the fight went on so long. He didn't feel the need to outright kill the man until he was about to kill a family.


If they really hated their subject matter, I don't think they would have taken the job. I think if anything they were trying to step out of their comfort zones, (other than a paycheck), but in all honestly, when I see something like Green Lantern, that to me is "I hate the subject matter". Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is "I hate the subject matter". Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li is "I hate the subject matter". I'm just not getting this from MoS and Nolan's set of two movies. I'd love to hear what you saw that made you think it was hatin' from within.

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

Wait a minute.

In Batman Begins, he didn't even want to kill people, that's why he was going against al Ghoul.

And Superman was trying to do everything to NOT snap Zod's neck. That's why damn near the whole city was demolished cause the fight went on so long. He didn't feel the need to outright kill the man until he was about to kill a family.


If they really hated their subject matter, I don't think they would have taken the job. I think if anything they were trying to step out of their comfort zones, (other than a paycheck), but in all honestly, when I see something like Green Lantern, that to me is "I hate the subject matter". Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is "I hate the subject matter". Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li is "I hate the subject matter". I'm just not getting this from MoS and Nolan's set of two movies. I'd love to hear what you saw that made you think it was hatin' from within.

The biggest criticism to Nolan's Batman begins is that by allowing Ras Al Gul to die Batman killed him. The comics version would've at least tried to save him. This was a major departure from the source material and changes the character from what the comics made him into.

If Snyder was familiar with the source material he would've known that Superman would've covered Zods eyes with his own hands to stop the murder, which would've fried Zods brain. An accidental killing would've been more appropriate than a neck snapping...which shouldn't even kill a kryptonian.

Nolan created a world where there are no comic books, no existing superheroes and no super powers. He chose the most mundane villains and depowered them to fit his vision. How can one be a superhero fan but purposefully leave out everything a fan likes about comic books?

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/uncategorized/christopher-n-2/

Snyder actually said he hated superhero comics. Then he said he did all he could to deconstruct everything WE liked about them.

http://www.ew.com/article/2008/07/17/watchmen-chat-director-zack-snyder/2/

So yeah...they ain't even like superheroes but took a check to fuck with all of us fans.

And that's why dc movies suck.

 

[darth frosty]

Tell me is my break-down wrong?

Umm yeah it is


Technically

Like it or not xmen FF and other marvel properties NOT owned by marvel entertainment are looked at as marvel movies to the average fan or observer.

Now the question I responded to

Curious does Fox and Sony advertise them as “Marvel Movies?”

As shown in the opening credits they do advertise them as marvel movies based on marvel characters.

Further, am i wrong in stating this is just another sensationalized anti-dc article?

That statement pretty much proves what the title of this thread is about.

IMO the article just pointed out the flaws in the the DCEU.

ALSO the fault does not lie with DC or the characters per se It's THE GATDAMN STUDIO IDIOTS

How do you mandate a movie like JL come in at under 2hrs

How do you cut critical pieces of the film and expect every one to be happy when you post explanations of the cut scenes that would have made the movie watchable and understandable



Tical you always say that you want ALL CBM to do well, I agree and will add from your lips to dumb ass DC studio execs ears.

 

[tical]

Umm yeah it is


Technically

Like it or not xmen FF and other marvel properties NOT owned by marvel entertainment are looked at as marvel movies to the average fan or observer.

Now the question I responded to
As shown in the opening credits they do advertise them as marvel movies based on marvel characters.





That statement pretty much proves what the title of this thread is about.

IMO the article just pointed out the flaws in the the DCEU.

ALSO the fault does not lie with DC or the characters per se It's THE GATDAMN STUDIO IDIOTS

How do you mandate a movie like JL come in at under 2hrs

How do you cut critical pieces of the film and expect every one to be happy when you post explanations of the cut scenes that would have made the movie watchable and understandable



Tical you always say that you want ALL CBM to do well, I agree and will add from your lips to dumb ass DC studio execs ears.

Darth miss me with all of that. If they were truly "Marvel" properties then Feige would be able to amend various aspect of those movies. But he can't touch them which means they don't belong to Marvel.

Anyway, as for the rest, let's hope WB gets their act together going forward and yes I always want all CBM to do well.

Next up, Black Panther! Can't wait

 

[tical]

Wait a minute.

In Batman Begins, he didn't even want to kill people, that's why he was going against al Ghoul.

And Superman was trying to do everything to NOT snap Zod's neck. That's why damn near the whole city was demolished cause the fight went on so long. He didn't feel the need to outright kill the man until he was about to kill a family.


If they really hated their subject matter, I don't think they would have taken the job. I think if anything they were trying to step out of their comfort zones, (other than a paycheck), but in all honestly, when I see something like Green Lantern, that to me is "I hate the subject matter". Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is "I hate the subject matter". Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li is "I hate the subject matter". I'm just not getting this from MoS and Nolan's set of two movies. I'd love to hear what you saw that made you think it was hatin' from within.

You do know that Batman Begins and this Batman are two diff...nevermind! Have at it.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

 

[melonpecan]

The biggest criticism to Nolan's Batman begins is that by allowing Ras Al Gul to die Batman killed him. The comics version would've at least tried to save him. This was a major departure from the source material and changes the character from what the comics made him into.

If Snyder was familiar with the source material he would've known that Superman would've covered Zods eyes with his own hands to stop the murder, which would've fried Zods brain. An accidental killing would've been more appropriate than a neck snapping...which shouldn't even kill a kryptonian.

Nolan created a world where there are no comic books, no existing superheroes and no super powers. He chose the most mundane villains and depowered them to fit his vision. How can one be a superhero fan but purposefully leave out everything a fan likes about comic books?

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/uncategorized/christopher-n-2/

Snyder actually said he hated superhero comics. Then he said he did all he could to deconstruct everything WE liked about them.

http://www.ew.com/article/2008/07/17/watchmen-chat-director-zack-snyder/2/

So yeah...they ain't even like superheroes but took a check to fuck with all of us fans.

And that's why dc movies suck.

Like I said before as a director, i can't be mad at you not liking comic books. Maybe it was their chance to show something in a different light. To let people see them how they see them, even if they may have thought it was ridiculous.

As for Nolan, maybe he didn't want there to be the supernatural in his...set of movies. Tried to keep it as realistic as possible. Maybe that's why he killed Ras.


I'm not going to support to the death or hold on a high horse. But people take on creative works to push them, and that I do understand. Maybe it's me being optimistic, dunno. Snyder's reason for making Zods neck snap could be the same fucked up reasoning we got that bore fight at the end of WW. All I can say for sure is that a different perspective is sometimes needed. The Dark Knight even flawed is considered awesome. And Snyder...has his moments. And that's me not saying either are my favorite directors either - no!

So I'll go back to something else I said: would you be as upset at this not liking comics thing if we were talking about the writers and not the directors? (I'm trying to ignore the fact that Snyder writes some of his movies.)

You do know that Batman Begins and this Batman are two diff...nevermind! Have at it.

le sigh

 

[melonpecan]

I tried to make it through but I was done when dude referred to Sucker Punch as 'bright'.