Who Is The "Nice Guy"?

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So, I was skipping down my Twitter timeline and came across a few posts that @FatFemPinUp had posted. I was slightly hesitant because she seemed like she was in one of those moods. You know, the one where any human born with a penis is a prime reason for her to lash out for anything they do. But, Owl being the adventurous type, clicked on the links anyhow. So, you have these discussions, well, rants, anyway, about the “nice guy”.
Okay, let us first do something here.
Definitions matter.
What is a “nice guy”?
I am not certain that I do not know my own standard here, but I do believe often, depending on age, experience and gender, that we all are not discussing the same person. It is like this concept, the “friend zone”, that I wish would be found in the next stack of bodies some “mentally ill” white dude decides to pile up. I suppose at a certain age, I have learned that one probably should not build their self-esteem on the fragile sands of their sexual exploits and I can only hope that more of my gender takes up this cause as well. However, until that phase of evolution is entered, it should be outlined that most males are in a life or death contest to have sex with as many women as quickly as possible. No matter how jokingly I write that, there is something in our socialization that presents our masculinity as an abstract only made concrete through conquest. From fighting to fucking, this is what defines us as “men” in the empirical sense. Sure, there are our responsibilities, but too often they don’t appeal as signifier of our worth, only the projections of that worth.
So, who is the “nice guy”?



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The nice guy, isn't real. It's an act. The nice guy invaribaly wants the same thing the bad guy wants. To get the drawls. The nice guy approaches on the friendship level. Waits around hoping you'll notice him by having this fantasy world in his head that you'll like him 1 day if he's nice enough. This is not genuine. This is a lie. The cake is a lie.

The nice guy is a male. Just like all the rest of them. And should be seen for what he is. And make no mistake.
 
The nice guy, isn't real. It's an act. The nice guy invaribaly wants the same thing the bad guy wants. To get the drawls. The nice guy approaches on the friendship level. Waits around hoping you'll notice him by having this fantasy world in his head that you'll like him 1 day if he's nice enough. This is not genuine. This is a lie. The cake is a lie.

The nice guy is a male. Just like all the rest of them. And should be seen for what he is. And make no mistake.

*evil grin*
 
The nice guy, isn't real. It's an act. The nice guy invaribaly wants the same thing the bad guy wants. To get the drawls. The nice guy approaches on the friendship level. Waits around hoping you'll notice him by having this fantasy world in his head that you'll like him 1 day if he's nice enough. This is not genuine. This is a lie. The cake is a lie.

The nice guy is a male. Just like all the rest of them. And should be seen for what he is. And make no mistake.
The nice asks you to be in his room, just the same. The nice guy touches you wounded elbow, much alike. But the nice guy is not athletic or popular, so comes spite. The nice guy is only nice, not nice and rich, sexy, popular, or all those other nice things you like......
 
The nice guy, isn't real. It's an act. The nice guy invaribaly wants the same thing the bad guy wants. To get the drawls. The nice guy approaches on the friendship level. Waits around hoping you'll notice him by having this fantasy world in his head that you'll like him 1 day if he's nice enough. This is not genuine. This is a lie. The cake is a lie.

The nice guy is a male. Just like all the rest of them. And should be seen for what he is. And make no mistake.



Bullshit....the nice guy sticks around after you get pregnant :rolleyes:. I see you one of them women who don't know what you want. If you get a guy that dogs you out "men suck". If you get a guy that treats you like you think you want to be treated he too nice so you dog him out.


BTW: You would have to get rid of that sofa in your avatar when I'm done with you.


Whaddup Owl.
 
The nice asks you to be in his room, just the same. The nice guy touches you wounded elbow, much alike. But the nice guy is not athletic or popular, so comes spite. The nice guy is only nice, not nice and rich, sexy, popular, or all those other nice things you like......

And his goal is still the same just going about it differently.

Bullshit....the nice guy sticks around after you get pregnant :rolleyes:. I see you one of them women who don't know what you want. If you get a guy that dogs you out "men suck". If you get a guy that treats you like you think you want to be treated he too nice so you dog him out.


BTW: You would have to get rid of that sofa in your avatar when I'm done with you.


Whaddup Owl.

You have not the slightest idea what kind of woman i am. Stick to the topic at hand please and not try to direct anything personal at me. You guys are weird sometimes :smh:, the woman isn't supposed to let herself GET pregnant. Men nice or not. Are here and want woman largely for 1 biological purpose. To make more of themselves. The men who transcend that? Aren't the "nice guys".

Be a good man, with purpose and drive and the appropriate women will come to you. See women as more than just sexual endeavors or conquests and you'll be rewarded with real people for friends. And possibly appropriate mates.
 
The nice guy, isn't real. It's an act. The nice guy invaribaly wants the same thing the bad guy wants. To get the drawls. The nice guy approaches on the friendship level. Waits around hoping you'll notice him by having this fantasy world in his head that you'll like him 1 day if he's nice enough. This is not genuine. This is a lie. The cake is a lie.

The nice guy is a male. Just like all the rest of them. And should be seen for what he is. And make no mistake.

I agree, completely. But, men are men. You know? If you enjoy a man, enjoy the damn man. If you don't, then hey, don't make everything my fault. I just get tired of reading crying assed niggaz thinking because they played the "nice guy" role, they supposed to get some sort of accommodations

And thanks for replying the by the by.
 
Bullshit....the nice guy sticks around after you get pregnant :rolleyes:. I see you one of them women who don't know what you want. If you get a guy that dogs you out "men suck". If you get a guy that treats you like you think you want to be treated he too nice so you dog him out.


BTW: You would have to get rid of that sofa in your avatar when I'm done with you.


Whaddup Owl.

hahahhahahh!!!!

What's up, Champ...
 
I agree, completely. But, men are men. You know? If you enjoy a man, enjoy the damn man. If you don't, then hey, don't make everything my fault. I just get tired of reading crying assed niggaz thinking because they played the "nice guy" role, they supposed to get some sort of accommodations

And thanks for replying the by the by.

Entitlement. Like many others.
 
And his goal is still the same just going about it differently.



You have not the slightest idea what kind of woman i am. Stick to the topic at hand please and not try to direct anything personal at me. You guys are weird sometimes :smh:, the woman isn't supposed to let herself GET pregnant. Men nice or not. Are here and want woman largely for 1 biological purpose. To make more of themselves. The men who transcend that? Aren't the "nice guys".

Be a good man, with purpose and drive and the appropriate women will come to you. See women as more than just sexual endeavors or conquests and you'll be rewarded with real people for friends. And possibly appropriate mates.


what personal i directed at you? you mean the sofa comment?
 
The nice guy, isn't real. It's an act. The nice guy invaribaly wants the same thing the bad guy wants. To get the drawls.



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The nice guy, isn't real. It's an act. The nice guy invaribaly wants the same thing the bad guy wants. To get the drawls. The nice guy approaches on the friendship level. Waits around hoping you'll notice him by having this fantasy world in his head that you'll like him 1 day if he's nice enough. This is not genuine. This is a lie. The cake is a lie.

The nice guy is a male. Just like all the rest of them. And should be seen for what he is. And make no mistake.

The nigga or cracker that fingers u in the butthole is he a nice guy??


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The nice guy, isn't real. It's an act. The nice guy invaribaly wants the same thing the bad guy wants. To get the drawls. The nice guy approaches on the friendship level. Waits around hoping you'll notice him by having this fantasy world in his head that you'll like him 1 day if he's nice enough. This is not genuine. This is a lie. The cake is a lie.

The nice guy is a male. Just like all the rest of them. And should be seen for what he is. And make no mistake.

This is pretty cynical, it's a basic human function to want to mate and it's not exclusive to men. Nothing wrong with wanting sex. If you ever run into a 'Nice guy" (or girl) and they're mildly attractive. Why not bask in the pleasure of someone trying to get to know you and court you through traditional methods; conversation, dinner and coffee dates, a real friendship? I don't get it. You can't hate both methods of dating. How would you rather someone approach you for a relationship of any type?

As a side note. You can also be the proactive one and take the more direct approach and simply talk to them and find out what they want. You don't have to sit and force a sheep into a wolf's clothing, making wild guesses about their character. That's not fair. Not everyone (man) is out there to be greedy or disingenuous.
 
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what personal i directed at you? you mean the sofa comment?

Bullshit....the nice guy sticks around after you get pregnant :rolleyes:. I see you one of them women who don't know what you want. If you get a guy that dogs you out "men suck". If you get a guy that treats you like you think you want to be treated he too nice so you dog him out.


BTW: You would have to get rid of that sofa in your avatar when I'm done with you.


Whaddup Owl.

This. You didn't read your own post? lol
 
This is pretty cynical, it's a basic human function to want to mate and it's not exclusive to men. Nothing wrong with wanting sex. If you ever run into a 'Nice guy" (or girl) and they're mildly attractive. Why not bask in the pleasure of someone trying to get to know you and court you through traditional methods; conversation, dinner and coffee dates, a real friendship? I don't get it. You can't hate both methods of dating. How would you rather someone approach you for a relationship of any type?

As a side note. You can also be the proactive one and take the more direct approach and simply talk to them and find out what they want. You don't have to sit and force a sheep into a wolf's clothing, making wild guesses about their character. That's not fair. Not everyone (man) is out there to be greedy or disingenuous.


What's the difference between cynical and realistic? I am just acknowledging the truth. There's a fallacy going on here, this so called "nice guy" doesn't exist. And women should spot them and their motives just like any one else and then act according. What is it that you're "disagreeing" with?
 
What's the difference between cynical and realistic? I am just acknowledging the truth. There's a fallacy going on here, this so called "nice guy" doesn't exist. And women should spot them and their motives just like any one else and then act according. What is it that you're "disagreeing" with?

I'm disagreeing with you making it some type of crime to want to have sex with someone based on their chosen method of courtship and that the nice guy doesn't exist. You're saying that men who like to be familiar with their partners before being coital don't exist, and that's false. Not every person wants to jump into the sack with a complete stranger even if it's for casual sex.

Cynics are not realist because they throw pragmatism out the window in favor of egoism.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Cynics
 
I think "nice guys" are defined differently by different people. It seems subjective to me really. I think in many cases it's simply the opposite of being an asshole. Being a nice guy can have it's benefits, but at the same time it can be detrimental to the ultimate goals of sex and/or dating a woman. The nice guy may be so concerned with not looking like a dick that he fails to assert himself with a woman.
 
Interesting topic my question is, do women really want a nice guy anymore? Most will say they do but do they really?
 
I'm disagreeing with you making it some type of crime to want to have sex with someone based on their chosen method of courtship and that the nice guy doesn't exist. You're saying that men who like to be familiar with their partners before being coital don't exist, and that's false. Not every person wants to jump into the sack with a complete stranger even if it's for casual sex.

Cynics are not realist because they throw pragmatism out the window in favor of egoism.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Cynics


You're making assumptions, (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/assumption). I'm not criminalizing anything. I'm speaking on the reality of a woman today's america, based on me being a woman. Speaking to to other women. The only thing i'm against is women not understanding what the REALITY of the situation is. That's not cynicism. That's seeing things the way they really are instead of buying into labels.

The so called "nice guy" doesn't exist. It's a social fallacy created to once again divide, and "trick" women, and then also 'blame" women. "Nice guys" want to fuck and just find a different way to go about it. So women should realize THAT, before anything else. Males want to put their penis in you. Decide what you want to do from THAT point. Observe their behavior and decide on what to do with that information. Don't go for the "oh he's a nice guy" routine. Off the jump and fall into any silly ass illusions.
 
Interesting topic my question is, do women really want a nice guy anymore? Most will say they do but do they really?

I believe they never did.


I believe they want a POWERFUL MAN TO BE "NICE" TO THEM. "NICE" BEING THE SECONDARY TRAIT.:hmm:


"Powerful" being whatever that women deems power to be; the defaults are status among peers and money but it could also be intellect, humor, physical attractiveness, or the biggest nigga in the room.


A nice cat in and of himself isn't getting anywhere. A POWERFUL cat will be given many opportunities to show how "nice" he is you dig.:cool:


*two cents*
 
And all but one "Sister OnLine" has ANY thing to type here? I guess killers actually do move in silence...
 
The so called "nice guy" doesn't exist. It's a social fallacy created to once again divide, and "trick" women, and then also 'blame" women. "Nice guys" want to fuck and just find a different way to go about it.

Yeah. Marriage. With a wife.*shrugs*

I believe they never did.


I believe they want a POWERFUL MAN TO BE "NICE" TO THEM. "NICE" BEING THE SECONDARY TRAIT.:hmm:


i've started to believe this; it's cool to be nice, but its not a primary attractive..point. similar to how women can be intelligent, or make money...but that's not the primary part of attraction for a lot of women.
 
Anger is a big problem for many women, and it doesn’t matter how men treat them or what men do for them, they’re still going to be angry.

Throw that fish back in the sea and keep fishing.


:cool:
 
I don't get it. Everybody wants to fuck... So being a Nice guy and wanting to fuck, don't make him a nice guy? Its illogical. I've been both... The asshole and the nice guy... I liked being the nice guy, but the nice guy gets used and fucked over. So, I became an asshole... I got more pussy that way. However, nice guys wants to get to know the woman, love the woman, marry the woman... He really gives a fuck about you... That is the difference... Even though he ultimately wants to fuck, he wants to fuck you and care for you, love you, hold you, and take care of you. Further, you don't have to be unattractive to be the nice guy. I think I am very attractive. I was popular and was a world class fucking athlete. Two time national champion and went to the olympic trials. I guess, what I am trying to say is pick your poison. Do you want someone who is going to care for you, or do you want someone who is going to shit on you? Not to say that some nice guys won't shit on you, but the likelihood of that happening is all so slim. Nice guys are really nice guys because they truly want you... The problem is, woman don't want that... They like the assholes who shit on them. It is just my assessment of my time in the game.

Well said.

These women always claim they want a "Challenge". As if they are better than the men or there is something to win. I guess it's the whole love & war dynamic Idk. Think they can change the asshole into a lovable guy for them but once they do they lose attraction for him and it's off to the next asshole.

Seems like having a nice guy is too easy to have. They see nice guys become too accommodating and they appear as push-overs when they let women do lil disrespectful shit and get away with it.
 
lol how the hell can somebody be a nice guy when their goals are the same as the bad guy? They have the same targets as the so called bad guys? So called nice guys are the same as the so called bad guys. They're only out for the ass. Which is FINE. If all i want to do is give out ass. Drop the charade. Be yourselves. Be honest with yourself, and everyone else. This nice guy bad guy shit is for children. Stop it. A guy who's honest, forthright, not trying to hide his intentions. That's the type of a guy who's about something. A decent human being. A guy with a sense of honor and duty about himself. A stand up dude who understands how the world works, and doesn't waste time trying to get into some pussy 24/7. All that other shit is for featherhead dames who get sold on disney dreams and shit lol.
 
lol how the hell can somebody be a nice guy when their goals are the same as the bad guy? They have the same targets as the so called bad guys? So called nice guys are the same as the so called bad guys. They're only out for the ass. Which is FINE. If all i want to do is give out ass. Drop the charade. Be yourselves. Be honest with yourself, and everyone else. This nice guy bad guy shit is for children. Stop it. A guy who's honest, forthright, not trying to hide his intentions. That's the type of a guy who's about something. A decent human being. A guy with a sense of honor and duty about himself. A stand up dude who understands how the world works, and doesn't waste time trying to get into some pussy 24/7. All that other shit is for featherhead dames who get sold on disney dreams and shit lol.


Sometimes, some of the time...men don't think being honest will allow them to come at women in that manner. And, as a man that is usually bold with women, I must admit, half the time, what works for me is being less than and that typically allows me to get dubbed "real".
 
Sometimes, some of the time...men don't think being honest will allow them to come at women in that manner. And, as a man that is usually bold with women, I must admit, half the time, what works for me is being less than and that typically allows me to get dubbed "real".

Yeah. Some men ARE real. And will be honest, because they ARE honest. There's lots of keys and things to pick up on. It's other things to take measure of. Not just 1. And it's the same with women.
 
The nice guy, isn't real. It's an act. The nice guy invaribaly wants the same thing the bad guy wants. To get the drawls. The nice guy approaches on the friendship level. Waits around hoping you'll notice him by having this fantasy world in his head that you'll like him 1 day if he's nice enough. This is not genuine. This is a lie. The cake is a lie.

The nice guy is a male. Just like all the rest of them. And should be seen for what he is. And make no mistake.

LOL yup

I find them to be the worst
 
I don't get it. Everybody wants to fuck... So being a Nice guy and wanting to fuck, don't make him a nice guy? Its illogical. I've been both... The asshole and the nice guy... I liked being the nice guy, but the nice guy gets used and fucked over. So, I became an asshole... I got more pussy that way. However, nice guys wants to get to know the woman, love the woman, marry the woman... He really gives a fuck about you... That is the difference... Even though he ultimately wants to fuck, he wants to fuck you and care for you, love you, hold you, and take care of you. Further, you don't have to be unattractive to be the nice guy. I think I am very attractive. I was popular and was a world class fucking athlete. Two time national champion and went to the olympic trials. I guess, what I am trying to say is pick your poison. Do you want someone who is going to care for you, or do you want someone who is going to shit on you? Not to say that some nice guys won't shit on you, but the likelihood of that happening is all so slim. Nice guys are really nice guys because they truly want you... The problem is, woman don't want that... They like the assholes who shit on them. It is just my assessment of my time in the game.

^^^
this here!!! Has been my experience throughout life.
I have a couple of female friends that are just that friends. I'm not gonna lie, at one point I was trying to get into their drawls but was placed in the friend zone. Point being, I noticed most females (not all) always chase these broke, no job having, in and out of jail, thug types and then want to complain to the nice guy or good man about it. They claim they want a good man but that's not what their picking. It's gotten to the point when one of them says your so nice, or that's sweet, I flip the script. Like the poster I quoted said, as soon as you show some kindness the using begins. It's like a domino effect. Nice person (male or female) hooks up with nothing but assholes then they become ass holes after awhile. They eventually meet a nice person and don't know how to treat them, then the cycle repeats itself. :smh:
 
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