*****Who here thinks twice about sexual harrassment on the job?*****

[Mr. Met]

I'm following this MSG trial and it's fucking my head up.

I don't think Isiah tried to push up on this chick.

It seems that she was ( or thought she was ) one of the boys at one point, maybe even cracking a dirty joke or two.

Then they dissed her and like a jilted lover she caught feelings.

The fact that Marbury was fucking the more attractive intern under her watch didn't help.

Most of us work and see how women dress on the job and interact with men on a regular basis. Everything can be cool for a few years and then BAM!!!! sexual harassment charges.

How do y'all deal with it?

 

[HandsSolo2K5]

I tried to respond intelligently in the last post but GROWN ASSED MEN proceeded to call her gorilla, and post pictures of the ugliest celebrities to downgrade this woman......... Sexual Harassment Cases are usually about gaining respect from an individual or corporate entity that disrespected the person somehow....... Its more complex than Isiah having the "Hots" for her or vice versa................ Gauging the last thread you may not get the answer you are looking for.


Its more like Defamation of Character or Libeling..... You cant call a woman a bitch at a job....... You cant hug them, hold them, caress them, message them if they dont want it....... You cant make pillow talk with a consensual female if it is within an earshot of the person you are offending.....

 

[bromack1]

Sexual Harassment Cases are usually about gaining respect from an individual or corporate entity that disrespected the person somehow.......

Perhaps in some instances... but for some women its becoming more of a way to extort money directly from men or there bosses.

A woman whom you might have been shared some off color jokes and which at the time you both had a good laugh, can suddenly turn on you if she "needs" some money and figures you got it. She might have even been the one to start you off with a bunch of off color jokes. But the facts are, you are a man and you are the one that told her a dirty sexist joke.

I think this case should have been settled and never made it to court. Perhaps an offer was already put on the table but she refused it cause she wanted more money.
If you don't believe me, then ask her whats more important... an apology..or money.


Women are "fickle" creatures to work with.

Anything can potentially set a woman off.` In some instances, an overly friendly "stare" can get a man charged with sexual harrassment. Not getting a promotion. Jealousy from other females because one man pays too much attention to her.

The point is, whatever standards constitute sexual harrassment are generally set by the woman. And you won't know what the standards or rules are till she goes to your HR department with a complaint. Any HR department person will tell you they have a "description" as to what it is, but they don't have a lot of specifics.
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The best way for men to handle themselves is to go back to the old expression, "don't keep a honey where you make your money. And if you feel a need to wanna pinch a chick on the ass... then go to your local strip club.

 

[HandsSolo2K5]

Well, none of us are in a situation, even watching the trial, to judge ol' girl........... And most of us already judged her by her looks already.......

 

[BCSD2012]

I do because at my last job I was in charge of arranging and administering the sexual harassment program for our company. I had to train people about sexual harassment, handle all reports of sexual harassment, conduct interviews, documemt, etc. Just calling someone sugar or baby in the workplace can bee seen as sexual harassment. The telling of lewd jokes, unwanted emails,etc. That shit is deep.

 

[HandsSolo2K5]

I do because at my last job I was in charge of arranging and administering the sexual harassment program for our company. I had to train people about sexual harassment, handle all reports of sexual harassment, conduct interviews, documemt, etc. Just calling someone sugar or baby in the workplace can bee seen as sexual harassment. The telling of lewd jokes, unwanted emails,etc. That shit is deep.

Yeah, but why would you call someone baby or sugah if they are not your lil' piece at the job...... Now if it is just the way of some people fine people be trying to smoke weed, and get fucked, and drink alcohol with their workplace friends....... There are fine lines in place.

 

[bromack1]

Most of us work and see how women dress on the job and interact with men on a regular basis.


How do y'all deal with it?

You're correct.... but the problem becomes, how do you tell your HR department about improving company dress standards without them dismissing you as some type of "jerk." To even suggest that "one" particular women change to a more conservative style of dress can get you accused of sexual harrassment.

 

[bromack1]

Just calling someone sugar or baby in the workplace can bee seen as sexual harassment.

Actually... its more like if a "man" at work calls a woman sugar or baby, its sexual harrassment. But if a woman does it, the man is just supposed to consider himself as being given a compliment.

 

[BCSD2012]

Yeah, but why would you call someone baby or sugah if they are not your lil' piece at the job...... Now if it is just the way of some people fine people be trying to smoke weed, and get fucked, and drink alcohol with their workplace friends....... There are fine lines in place.

That's why when I did my training I made it clear and understandable that pet names such as sugar, baby, honey, etc was not acceptable and can bee seen as sexual harassment. Once you train someone, they sign off on training, they now know better. So if they do it in the workplace you can always say you've been trained, you knew better, and we are going to deal with this in accordance to the rules, regulations, policy and procedures in the employee handbook.

 

[BCSD2012]

Actually... its more like if a "man" at work calls a woman sugar or baby, its sexual harrassment. But if a woman does it, the man is just supposed to consider himself as being given a compliment.

I've had men file sexual harassment complaints against women in the workplace. It usually entails some females teasing a dude about the lack of his sex life or about the size of his dick. Even though they've never seen it, you know how a group of women sometimes play with a dude and say stupid shit.

 

[HandsSolo2K5]

Cosign, And women are the worst offenders as far as doing this....... I know of women who pass around erotica, blatantly talk about sexual innuendo, making dick jokes, and questioning who is gay or not, and having Lesbian affiliations....... Men just sit back and absorb it.......

 

[bromack1]

Yeah, but why would you call someone baby or sugah if they are not your lil' piece at the job...... .

I guess you've never been called sweetie or some other flirtatious term by a waitress.

Years ago before sexual harrassment laws, some people actually felt that comfortable with there coworkers. These days, no one does it anymore.

The problem with sexual harrassment laws is they are very vague in description as to what is ....or is not sexual harrassment.

Outside of the obvious, its a "he said, she said game."

For example, unwanted "staring" is sexual harrassment.

The "accuser" makes a claim and its up to the accused to "defend" himself against the claim.

But what if the "accuser" is flat out lying???

so what!!!!

Regardless, the "accused" has to defend himself against the claim.

 

[bromack1]

I've had men file sexual harassment complaints against women in the workplace. It usually entails some females teasing a dude about the lack of his sex life or about the size of his dick. Even though they've never seen it, you know how a group of women sometimes play with a dude and say stupid shit.

Without going into a lot of detail.

I once had the mistaken "assumption" that because all the females in my department talked like that... it was okay for me to do the same...after all, I just wanted to be one of the guys and not viewed as some kind of "prude."

well...I can tell you this for a fact... its not true.... men are not one of the "guy"s when it comes to female co-workers and subordinates.... enuf said..

Next time you do some training.... make sure its clear.... There is zero tolerance on foul language... and that includes women.

 

[max-dawg]

Well, none of us are in a situation, even watching the trial, to judge ol' girl........... And most of us already judged her by her looks already.......

for the 2nd time...

the JUDGE in this case has already called her claims of sexual harassment a "stretch," i.e., IT'S BULLSHIT AND HE AIN'T HEARING IT.

so basically, this boils down to isiah being sued over calling this bitch a bitch.

 

[bromack1]

for the 2nd time...

the JUDGE in this case has already called her claims of sexual harassment a "stretch," i.e., IT'S BULLSHIT AND HE AIN'T HEARING IT.

so basically, this boils down to isiah being sued over calling this bitch a bitch.

Perhaps...

but the judge doesn't count... its the jury...

 

[HandsSolo2K5]

Has the case been thrown out yet?????? I'm not following it. I think you are missing my point. Was Isiah Thomas culpable in creating a hostile environment for the plaintiff. I'm sure this stretches a lil' more further than him just calling her a bitch........I could be wrong. You all keep thinking of "sexual=fucking harassment" instead of "sexual =male vs. female harassment"

 

[waynebo33]

Man I work at the Post Office in a big plant. Sexual Harrassment is a lunch time and break activity. Niggas eat their lunch while they are working to avoid losing harrassment time. ROFL...However you have to be smart about it. You dont roll up on a chick you just met and say some stupid shit. No touching (unless u r hittin it) or saying shit in front of 3rd parties. When you say shit in front of someone else you force the chick to be a lady and report you. Even though the witness chick probably wish it was her. NO Colin Powell

 

[FreQ247365]

It colors every word I say, and every move I make. I'm a teacher tho and education is mos def a female dominated industry. From District CEO to noon-hour aides they are EVERYWHERE. I kick it with some of the yourng pretty ones tho.

 

[mc2]

I'm following this MSG trial and it's fucking my head up.

I don't think Isiah tried to push up on this chick.

It seems that she was ( or thought she was ) one of the boys at one point, maybe even cracking a dirty joke or two.

Then they dissed her and like a jilted lover she caught feelings.

The fact that Marbury was fucking the more attractive intern under her watch didn't help.

Most of us work and see how women dress on the job and interact with men on a regular basis. Everything can be cool for a few years and then BAM!!!! sexual harassment charges.

How do y'all deal with it?

#1 I go to work for the purpose of making money, and not to get with the women there.

#2 I dont gossip at work.. Rumors can turn women against you and cause them to want to set you up.

#3 I dont say anything with a sexual undertone in the presence of women at the job. I dont want them getting offended about something and turning me in to HR

#4 Dont send love notes via e-mail at the job. This gives them hard evidence if they decided to turn you in.

Lastly just use comon sense..

 

[LeroyDibiase]

Why the fuck is Lawrence Taylor in a pantsuit?????

 

[CeeloChamp]

i've sexually harrassed a girl at work but she wanted to be sexually harrassed, she would walk in front of me real close and brush her ass on my dick and all that shit

i used to play wit her titties and shit and she would sit on my lap and i would rub on her pussy over her pants and she was lovin it, bitch was a freak

she used to tell mehow her man be fuckin the shit outta her and chokin her and shit

this bitch is a freak, she got fired tho, she didnt do much work

 

[slick]

I tried to respond intelligently in the last post but GROWN ASSED MEN proceeded to call her gorilla, and post pictures of the ugliest celebrities to downgrade this woman......... Sexual Harassment Cases are usually about gaining respect from an individual or corporate entity that disrespected the person somehow....... Its more complex than Isiah having the "Hots" for her or vice versa................ Gauging the last thread you may not get the answer you are looking for.


Its more like Defamation of Character or Libeling..... You cant call a woman a bitch at a job....... You cant hug them, hold them, caress them, message them if they dont want it....... You cant make pillow talk with a consensual female if it is within an earshot of the person you are offending.....

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[femmenoire]

Since I work in IT, I work around mostly males. I can tell you I have never called any man honey, or baby, or sugar or darling or anything of the sort.

However in my 10 years of working in this industry I have been called honey, darling, sweetie, you name it.

I never considered it harrassment though.

But some men walk around calling women bitches and it's inappropriate. If it's not dealth with on the management level, then a lawsuit should be expected.

 

[Mo-Better]

Sexual harrassment is a dangerous thing. There's a very thin line between asking someone out for lunch or dinner and sexual harrassment.

If you ask a woman out and she says no and you persist and ask her again and again. She can charge you with sexual harrassment, not saying she can win but either way you lose. Your brought up on charges, the case is reviewed by HR, the word (always)gets out and you lose the respect of your colleagues. Yet if you win your case you still have to work with these people. Its an ugly scene. May as well look for another job.

 

[HandsSolo2K5]

i've sexually harrassed a girl at work but she wanted to be sexually harrassed, she would walk in front of me real close and brush her ass on my dick and all that shit

i used to play wit her titties and shit and she would sit on my lap and i would rub on her pussy over her pants and she was lovin it, bitch was a freak

she used to tell mehow her man be fuckin the shit outta her and chokin her and shit

this bitch is a freak, she got fired tho, she didnt do much work

If its consenting its not sexual harassment

 

[Blackwand]

If its consenting its not sexual harassment

Unless someone else sees it, who considers it sexual harassment against them (which is some bullshit)

 

[Aromatic]

#1 I go to work for the purpose of making money, and not to get with the women there.

#2 I dont gossip at work.. Rumors can turn women against you and cause them to want to set you up.

#3 I dont say anything with a sexual undertone in the presence of women at the job. I dont want them getting offended about something and turning me in to HR

#4 Dont send love notes via e-mail at the job. This gives them hard evidence if they decided to turn you in.

Lastly just use comon sense..

Well Written!