White House Apologizes to Sherrod for USDA Ouster
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Okay, meaningless means that there were no consequences, that NOTHING changed!
Is Obama still a member of Wright's church?
Look, we can all see the lengths that the Tea Party is willing to go to oust this President, all I'm saying is that he doesn't need to give them fodder, they will make up enough by themselves!!!
You know full well that Obama was still in jeopardy until Sarah Palin hit the scene. And, that dingbat still looked like she could win with McCain.
It wasn't until the financial collapse that the Republicans basically cooked themselves ("the fundamentals of the economy are strong!").
Jeremiah Wright wasn't enough to sink him, but don't act like people forgot. And, they won't forget this. The Republicans will make sure everyone remembers come 2012!
Obama is losing his moral high ground on the one issue he thought was a lock, the colorblind society. Without that, he is just another politician with nothing to recommend him (people are seeing through his hope and change hokum).
like i said, you just want to be right. in hindsight, the Jeremiah Wright scandal isn't even a speck in the rear view window, and when polled people said it wouldn't change their vote one way or the other.
it was a NON scandal that the media played up for the gullible, inexperienced, and easily alarmed.
again, based on polls nobody cared about the Jeremiah Wright "scandal", nor Obama's association with William Ayers.
if people DIDN'T forget, why aren't they still talking about it? its a non issue, had no effect on the past election, and you haven't provided a scrap of evidence to say it DOES.
fuck outta here with this bullshit.
You've won this round, super coon
Far from a coon bitch. But how do you now investigate a allegation from the same site that tried to keep you out of office with bullshit.
Obviously you don't follow the Tea Party movement or Fox news to post this.
They use this stuff as fodder to keep their followers motivated.
They will take every little thing and blow it up to be the greatest injustice against whites ever known to man.
Keep your head in the sand. You will get your education in 2012. Just don't be surprised when Obama is 1-and-done.
he can't.....
you know the same way i ock niccas and disprove them or clown and how some kats raise arms crying "it's not fair" for me to get at niccas and their bullshit?
what do you think the GOP and teasippers would do if something like that happened?
That is the fucking problem. How does a Presidential administration let the MEDIA determine policy?? Fuck blaming the media. They did their job in sensationalizing a story for ratings. As the Executive Branch of the fucking United States, you should be WAY above making decisions based off of what you see in the media. This shit is a joke.
That is the fucking problem. How does a Presidential administration let the MEDIA determine policy?? Fuck blaming the media. They did their job in sensationalizing a story for ratings. As the Executive Branch of the fucking United States, you should be WAY above making decisions based off of what you see in the media. This shit is a joke.
Who, in turn, got the story from a blog !
obviously you think the tea party is a legitimate political group instead of the fringe, disenfranchised racist right who own no true political power outside of SOME inside the republican party.
you haven't provided ANYTHING by the way of PROOF, no polls, no voting data, NOTHING to support anything you just wrote.
you're talking about education and havent provided anything by the way of facts, proof, etc.
you are the same scared by bullshit sky is falling weak kneed no backbone having keystroker that Van Allen was.
grow some nuts and man the fuck up.
Obama is the 15th most successful president we've had in only a year and a half of being in office.
if you think this blip is going to cast a shadow of doubt over his accomplishments you need to get your head checked.
So if it was a NON scandal that the media played up for the gullible, inexperienced, and easily alarmed, and Obama reacted to it by distancing himself from a man whose church he had attended for years, what does that make Obama?
That's the point I'm trying to make dun!
I don't give a shit about being right, what I'm trying to do explain that if Obama has too many of these knee-jerk reactions to different situations they will be used against him.
I saw it first-hand here in NY, that's how Guiliani beat Dinkins the second time around, it's how Reagan beat Carter, it's how Bush Sr. beat Dukakis, I could go on and on.
We give the American voter waaayyyy too much credit to see through the bullshit.
Hasn't Bush getting re-elected in 2004 taught us anything?
Hasn't Scott Brown, a Republican, winning Ted Kennedy's seat taught us anything?
Obama learned from it.
Have you?
The Press Secretary reserves the right to pull anyone's White House Press Credentials at anytime.
They tried to play a "Gotcha Game" -- now the they need to get Got Back.
And the Press Secretary needs to be pre-emptive and let them know via a general Press Release to the public followed by the entire press corps for those two agencies being visited the minute after its released by the Secret Service and asked to be handed the Press credentials.
The reason:
And this not because they tricked the Obama administration - it's because they start bullshit and tried to fan the flames of racism which is detrimental to the stability and solidity of the United States
In short, go have a time out in the corner - kick rocks - and think about what you did.
See you know this, I know this and Rachel Maddow knows this but does America?
Obama's approval ratings are the lowest they have ever been since he was elected.
And that's despite everything he has already accomplished!
Even in his home state, if there were an election today, just 26% of voters say they’d be more inclined to back an Obama endorsed candidate while 40% say his support would be more likely to turn them against a candidate.
Rasmussen reports on President Obama's worst yet approval rating at 41%. See trends here.
"Overall, 41% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president's performance. That’s the lowest level of approval yet recorded for this president. Fifty-eight percent (58%) now disapprove.
Seventy-six percent (76%) of Democrats approve of the president’s performance. Eighty-five percent (85%) of Republicans disapprove along with 72% of unaffiliated voters"
Not only that but non-conservative polling company PPP had this recent find:
"Democrats are going to have to think really carefully about how they deploy Barack Obama for campaigning this fall. Polls we’ve conducted nationally and in several different states over the last few weeks have found that a candidate being endorsed by Obama is much more likely to elicit a negative response from Republican voters than a positive one from Democrats.
PPP’s most recent national survey found that while Obama had a positive approval rating at 48/47, only 33% of voters were more likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by him while 48% said support from Obama would make them less likely to vote for someone. That’s because only 64% of voters who approve of the President say his endorsement would make them more inclined to vote for a candidate, but 91% who disapprove say Obama’s support makes it less likely they would vote for one of his preferred candidates.
To put into perspective the perils of having Obama out on the campaign trail, consider the numbers in his home state of Illinois. Even there just 26% of voters say they’d be more inclined to back an Obama endorsed candidate while 40% say his support would be more likely to turn them against a candidate."
http://www.valuesvoternews.com/2010/06/president-obama-approval-rating-hits.html
Obama distancing himself from Wright was not a knee erk reaction, it was prudent. and again, his distancing himself was not a consequence of the public's reaction to the scandal. it was a PART of the scandal.
a result would be people voting against him due to the scandal.
Dinkins had ALL KINDS of problems in New York, and not one of them was like this current one that Obama is handling up on.
Carter had all kinds of problems, something like what Obama is handling wasn't one of them.
Dukakis wasn't a sitting president. you shouldn't have even mentioned him.
again, your reaction is an alarmist, pessimistic, and unhistoric view.
calm down.
Co-sign. This is truly a cring-worthy moment.
You've won this round, super coon
O so anyone who doesn't support Obamas shufflin coondom, is a coon themselves?
why dont you try to stay on subject?
you were supposed to provide polling data about the effect of the Jeremiah Wright scandal...providing PROOF of what you said about it.
recent polling data does not address that issue, and rasmussen polling ALWAYS polls Obama lower than the average.
you are on some bullshit.
Like I said, I still support the Prez, and I hope they learned something from this shit. They got straight owned. People are saying that we're acting like he's not allowed to make a mistake, and he is. He's human. But this was some common sense shit. He's been in this game far too long to be running with some shit that Fox claimed they got off of a BLOG!
THIS
How many times is OB's administration gonna allow FIXED NEWS to swindle them? Van Jones, ACORN (thankfully a judge overturned the knee-jerk congressional vote to defund acorn) and now this. Grow a pair already. The right thing was done in correcting their error but a shady network like that should arouse deeper vetting / fact-checking on the part of other media outlets and especially Obama's administration.
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Umm, what polls where U looking at???
The polls show that they cared about it when it happened but liked the way he handled the situation, by distancing himself from him and giving a speech about it.
These are from 2008 when the scandal happened.
This is from Rasmussen...
Barack Obama is now just another politician who is trying to spin a story that affects his political candidacy. Obama has claimed he was a man of all races. One really must question what is at the heart of Obama’s campaign. It appears that many are when one starts to look at the polls. The Gallup Poll shows that Hillary Clinton have moved in front of Barack Obama 49% to 42%. Since March 9, 2008 Clinton has gained 4 points while Obama has lost 7. Think the Obama camp is not troubled over the recent affiliation that Obama has with the Reverend Wright? A recent Rasmussen poll showed that 8% of Americans had a favorable opinion of Reverend Jeremiah Wright.
Seventy-three percent (73%) of voters say that Wright’s comments are racially divisive. That opinion is held by 77% of White voters and 58% of African-American voters. In addressing the issue, Obama warned against injecting race into the campaign .
Most voters, 56%, said Wright’s comments made them less likely to vote for Obama. That figure includes 44% of Democrats. Just 11% of voters say they are more likely to vote for Obama because of Wright’s comments.
The Rasmussen Poll also shows that Obama’s numbers are down drastically from 52% to 47% since Reverend Wright’s comments became a made for TV and You Tube movie. Get ready for a swing in the polls as America has been slapped in the face with a dose of reality. No liberal news media in bed with Obama can spin this one, although try as they may. The Reverend Wright’s comments are there for all to see and Barack Obama tries to explain to the American voting public that it was his good judgement to just sit by and do nothing.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/03/20...verend-wrights-racist-anti-american-comments/
The polls show that distancing himself helped Obama.
The videos of Rev. Jeremiah Wright's controversial sermons and Barack Obama's subsequent speech on race and politics have attracted more public attention than any events thus far in the 2008 presidential campaign. A majority of the public (51%) said they heard "a lot" about the videos, and an even larger percentage (54%) said they heard a lot about Obama's speech, according to the weekly News Interest Index.
Most voters aware of the sermons say they were personally offended by Wright's comments, and a sizable minority (35%) says that their opinion of Obama has grown less favorable because of Wright's statements.
However, the Wright controversy does not appear to have undermined support for Obama's candidacy. The latest nationwide survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted March 19-22 among 1,503 adults, finds that Obama maintains a 49% to 39% advantage over Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination, which is virtually unchanged from the 49% to 40% lead he held among Democrats in late February. Obama and Clinton continue to enjoy slight advantages over John McCain in general election matchups among all registered voters.
The new polling suggests that the Wright affair has not hurt Obama's standing, in part because his response to the controversy has been viewed positively by voters who favor him over Clinton. Obama's handling of the Wright controversy also won a favorable response from a substantial proportion of Clinton supporters and even from a third of Republican voters.
http://people-press.org/report/407/
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Just clarifying, I wasn't including the Wright scandal as a knee-jerk reaction.
And again, it's not this particular situation that I'm worried/talking about, it's the whole collection.
This particular situation shouldn't have happened to begin with.
Every President has problems, I'm just pointing out that Reagan defeated Carter based on his wishy-washy handling of the hostage situation.
Nobody gives Carter props on his handling of the 3 Mile Island situation, something he had first-hand experience with since he served in the Navy on a nuclear sub.
Bush Sr. depicted Dukakis as a waffler but since that's not good enough how about Bush Sr., after having some of the highest approval ratings for a sitting President, lost to Bill Clinton in large part due to changing his mind and raising taxes.
Who, in turn, got the story from a blog !
That is the fucking problem. How does a Presidential administration let the MEDIA determine policy?? Fuck blaming the media. They did their job in sensationalizing a story for ratings. As the Executive Branch of the fucking United States, you should be WAY above making decisions based off of what you see in the media. This shit is a joke.
Thats the same shit I said. The whole thing is WWE with no script. All these fools Obama got on the payroll and nobody did a facts check. Its amateur hour over at the White House.
Rasmussen was the third poll I saw but the first with a jpg., the rest were flash, so I used it.
Obama's poll numbers as of today.
Gallup poll - 45%
USA Today - 55%
Quinnipiac - 44%
same way he got up and claimed offshore drilling was safe because his speechwriters said that. even though if he'd talked to some environmentalists or industry people he'd learn the truth. let's face it the guy is not a good manager.
Racism has a goal.
It does NOT exist in a vacuum.
Racism is the practice of racial prejudice and the outcomes it creates.
Not getting the benefit of the doubt is a big part of the new racism too.
i was kinda lookin 4 the facts of this myself brb
FOX NEWS
The Agriculture Department announced Monday, shortly after FoxNews.com published its initial report on the video, that Sherrod had resigned.
"There is zero tolerance for discrimination at USDA, and I strongly condemn any act of discrimination against any person," Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said in a written statement. "We have been working hard through the past 18 months to reverse the checkered civil rights history at the department and take the issue of fairness and equality very seriously.
The NAACP released a statement late Monday condemning Sherrod's admission.
"We are appalled by her actions, just as we are with abuses of power against farmers of color and female farmers," the statement said.
"Her actions were shameful," it continued. "While she went on to explain in the story that she ultimately realized her mistake, as well as the common predicament of working people of all races, she gave no indication she had attempted to right the wrong she had done to this man."
NO "OBAMA STATEMENTS" ON FOX brb2
CBS NEWS
Sherrod said yesterday that the USDA pressed her to resign without listening to her side of the story or taking the time to review the remarks she gave to the NAACP. She said the USDA official who contacted her said she was acting at the behest of the White House. The White House said it had no part in Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack's decision to ask for Sherrod's resignation
Sherrod told the paper the USDA forced her out of her position because "They were just looking at what the Tea Party and what Fox said, and thought it was too (politically) dangerous for them."
HUFFINGTON POST
A White House official told me just now that the White House backs Vilsack's decision -- but that it was Vilsack's alone. The official said the White House -- contrary to the Sherrod's charge -- did not pressure the Department to fire her.
SOO BLAME OBAMA EVEN THO HE DIDNT SAY SHIT N THE 1ST PLACE LOOKS LIKE THE RUSH TO JUDGEMENT GOES N MULITPLE DIRECTIONS ANOTHER "BLAME THE BLK MAN FOR THE FUCKUP OF THE WHT ONE" MOMENT
Why is it no matter if they are in charge or not, these republicans/conservatives stay punking democrats/liberals?? 
This shit has been going on since 2001. Democrats had the United States by the balls after 2008 and have let Republicans and Fox news come back like Jason in a Friday the 13th movie.
If this same shit was reversed the Republicans wouldn't rush to do jack shit. Even if the shit wasn't out of context they would twist shit around the best way they could to place the blame on somebody else.
This shit has been going on since 2001.
Democrats had the United States by the balls after 2008 and have let Republicans and Fox news come back like Jason in a Friday the 13th movie.If this same shit was reversed the Republicans wouldn't rush to do jack shit. Even if the shit wasn't out of context they would twist shit around the best way they could to place the blame on somebody else.
Why is it no matter if they are in charge or not, these republicans/conservatives stay punking democrats/liberals??
This shit has been going on since 2001.
If this same shit was reversed the Republicans wouldn't rush to do jack shit. Even if the shit wasn't out of context they would twist shit around the best way they could to place the blame on somebody else.
This is what I've been saying throughout this thread.
The Repubs are gonna use this and other situations like it to raise their base up against Obama.
The hope is to drag a few independents in as well!
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