Where Were You Before You Were Born?

reality is perception, I don't know about you, but I didn't perceive anything before I was born. so the answer to this question will just be personal opinion or belief
 
reality is perception, I don't know about you, but I didn't perceive anything before I was born. so the answer to this question will just be personal opinion or belief

Maybe you did perceive before you were born but purposely forgot about it so you could learn particular lessons in this lifetime.



It is said that before a person death (like an old person dying in a bed etc) that they finally understand the bigger picture of reality and things as a whole become much more clearer. If we all understood this during our lifetime than we wouldn't need to learn certain lessons. I believe the lessons we learn in each lifetime are an essential part of the purpose for our existence.
 
You r indeed special:confused: - most mammals are housed in a uterus before birth. I guess you were birthed by vomiting or worse....the other direction.:D

I believe that I was Jack The Ripper. Reading those stories as a child, I felt excited, familiar and very pleased.:yes:





In reality, we were everything and we were nothing but atoms and molecules of all the elements. What is the human body comprised of - carbon, hydrogen and oxygen for the most part and many other elements just all assembled in the form that produces a human being. Your parents fucked and the single semen and egg merged and chemistry happened. How did you grow? Your mother breathed, ate and drank and you grew. The eat, drink and air contained all the elements/compounds that became a part of your body. The random pattern with which this all came together is so unlikely to every occur again, that I do not believe that we have ever been here before.

What about the other sperm and eggs that were lost? We're just the lucky fuckers that merged. Those could've been somebody else.

YOU, your body can from half sperm and the other half the egg. Would you still have been you had mommy hooked up with another man instead of your father? :idea:

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Saw this interesting comment on an article recently:

What always blows my mind is how we started on this planet with the basic raw materials - trees, water, land, minerals, elements, etc. and we turned it into everything around us. We took those raw materials and gave ourselves the power to communicate with others at a great distance. Hell, we took those materials and gave ourselves the power to actually leave this planet. And we're made up of some of those same raw materials

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I need a blunt.

Shitz amazing.
 
Earth elements create mold. Mold is a living bacteria. I think we came from mold bruhs. :hmm:

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I've been more and more interested in this lately...I think we are all just on a grand spiritual journey with each of us living out a different viewpoint of the human experience. We have a loving creator who would never condemn us to something such as "Hell" (which is merely an instrument of fear that we have internalized), and our test in life is to discover our own unique purpose.

We each have a specific natal background...nowhere in the world have their ever been nor will be 2 people born at the exact same time on the same day in the same place with the same name.
 
I've been more and more interested in this lately...I think we are all just on a grand spiritual journey with each of us living out a different viewpoint of the human experience. We have a loving creator who would never condemn us to something such as "Hell" (which is merely an instrument of fear that we have internalized), and our test in life is to discover our own unique purpose.

We each have a specific natal background...nowhere in the world have their ever been nor will be 2 people born at the exact same time on the same day in the same place with the same name.

I can get jiggy to this. :cool:
 
At first glance I thought this thread was about reincarnation.

If we're asking what do you think you were in your past life, I swear I was doing life in prison.
 
I recall it vividly, was hot, bouncy, moisture everywhere, I wasn't alone...noooooooo there were thousands like me. all rushing around jostling and pushing ................. felt like we were competing with each other.
 
Actually everyone should have the attitude that I have. And that is that there was no one here in the beginning but me. And now I must prove it.

The bible, The Holy Quran, and all holy books are a record of our thoughts. Everyone should have the attitude that it is me against the world. If the world is in darkness and evil, then this is about the person who will finally overcome the world. It is natural for us to reject this white man's world or as you would say, Satan's world. But if you do not overcome it and death then you will finally be laid to your resting place.

My goal is to raise above the white man's law, become unlimited in riches, and live forever. And to lead my people out of darkness into the light, and back to "THE GARDEN OF EDEN"

If all light came out of darkness, then darkness had to have been the repository for light in order for all darkness to come out of light.

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the idea that conscience is a 'thing' that is 'separate' from our brains, is probably as old as long as humans were able to think of it. however as the field of neuroscience grows, it is becoming more likely that consciousness is a process of the brain, and not a thing in it. think of taking a tour inside of a giant washing machine. you wouldn't look around and ask "where is the washingness" would you? no, because it is a silly question. washing is what that machine does. the same way that consciousness is what our big complex brains "do".


also if there is such a thing as a disembodied consciousness before we were born, that was destined for our living bodies, then what is the point of a man having millions of sperm in his nutsack? the fact that you are here reading this is a miracle of chance. you are the result of a particular sperm that made it there first. had it had been a different sperm that had reached there first, then a different human being would have been born in your place, simple as that.
 
What about the other sperm and eggs that were lost? We're just the lucky fuckers that merged. Those could've been somebody else.

YOU, your body can from half sperm and the other half the egg. Would you still have been you had mommy hooked up with another man instead of your father? :idea:

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Actually, the sperm were the lost ones given only (typically, usually, normally) one egg per cycle. Each one could potentially make an entirely different human being (think the world is crowded now) BUT you can not speculate on them and who they would be or what they would do because they are not. If you kept a bottle of hydrogen and a bottle of oxygen separate in a reaction chamber, you POTENTIALLY have water (H2O) and hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) and the hydroxy radical (OH) BUT if they are never allowed to react, then neither of those compounds exist although in theory we can speculate that they would exist if given the chance. If you had food but didn't eat it, you would continue to be hungry until that food gets in your stomach. You can imagine what it would be like but that is only speculative. Until you eat, food stay food and your hunger is never satisfied.
And no, different man, different result. Different day, same parents, different result. That's how amazing each person is. You are the product of an immeasurable series of random circumstances that culminated in YOU. We all are. The toaster in your kitchen is too.



I recall it vividly, was hot, bouncy, moisture everywhere, I wasn't alone...noooooooo there were thousands like me. all rushing around jostling and pushing ................. felt like we were competing with each other.

you a fool for this :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
the idea that conscience is a 'thing' that is 'separate' from our brains, is probably as old as long as humans were able to think of it. however as the field of neuroscience grows, it is becoming more likely that consciousness is a process of the brain, and not a thing in it. think of taking a tour inside of a giant washing machine. you wouldn't look around and ask "where is the washingness" would you? no, because it is a silly question. washing is what that machine does. the same way that consciousness is what our big complex brains "do".


also if there is such a thing as a disembodied consciousness before we were born, that was destined for our living bodies, then what is the point of a man having millions of sperm in his nutsack? the fact that you are here reading this is a miracle of chance. you are the result of a particular sperm that made it there first. had it had been a different sperm that had reached there first, then a different human being would have been born in your place, simple as that.

Like I said there is no such thing as "chance" and "random". Reality doesn't appear until it is observed. There are scientific experiments that prove that atoms act differently when they are observed.
 
Like I said there is no such thing as "chance" and "random". Reality doesn't appear until it is observed. There are scientific experiments that prove that atoms act differently when they are observed.

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Like I said there is no such thing as "chance" and "random". Reality doesn't appear until it is observed. There are scientific experiments that prove that atoms act differently when they are observed.

ah, i see. so random chance is a lie then. care to explain the point of a man havin millions of sperm, each of which have the potential to create a different person, if everything is predetermined?
 
Qn 1 Where Were You Before You Were Born?

Qn 2 Did you have a consciousness somewhere in the cosmos before your life on earth?
Answer in the Bible ~ the Temptation of Christ Matthew 4:1~11 (change temptation into trading or dealing)

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The Third Temptation

“Again the devil taketh Him up into an exceeding high mountain, and showeth Him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them:

“And saith unto Him, All these will I give Thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship Me.

“Then saith Jesus unto him, Away with you, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve.” Matt 4:8-10

Satan was tempting Christ to “save the world” in an easier, far less humiliating way than death on a cross. Satan was offering the Lord a “Quick Fix.” If Jesus would just bow down to Satan He would not have to go through the severe beating and blood loss, the crown of thorns on His head, being nailed to the cross as a common criminal, being ridiculed and abused by the Roman soldiers, or the derision and mockery of the crowd. Jesus would not have to die!

But the price for Christ would be - to sell His soul to the devil – and lose the authority to save the world. It would appear to be a benefit for the short term, but in the long term it would be a complete failure.
Jesus refused the deal you accepted it. And then you were born. That's why you are plugged in to experience this virtual reality movie simulation program. The earth plane you're experiencing now thinking youre living a life is a computer software simulation program written by the devil itself. What you keep calling your consciousness is plugged in to experience a pre~programmed game where you think you are born into a family by a real mother you think you have real brothers sisters cousins friends relatives fans girlfriends et cetera all these loved ones in a virtual world which appears real but isn't ~ EVEN WHAT YOU THINK IS YOUR BODY ITSELF IS NOT REAL just a part of the virtual gameworld all in your head your brain. Your eyes are a window which your soul looks through to see the virtual environment you're not in a room at the moment the room is inside you its all in your head the entire universe it's unreal :) What's that famous Vegas saying? What happens in Vegas Stays in Vegas! Exactly! Everything in this virtual gameworld is in a dvd playing when you leave as in die it just means you finished playing a part in the devil's little game the dvd carries on playing its not the end of the world BUT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE YOU'VE BEEN like waking up from a dream and not remembering who your mother was or the quality time dinners vacations you had with your wifey or taking the kids to Disneyworld! :eek: I mean it really sucks shit ok :hmm: Bill Gates programs with Visual Basic your dealer Preprogramming softwares written in your DNA!!! What's the most guarded secret in freemason? The secret of the Immortality of the Soul Exactly! Go figure! :dunno:
 
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12 Occurrences of the number 40 in the Bible what links them all together?

http://www.40day.com/40_in_the_bible.html


Instances in the Bible where God made major changes
and transformations after the period of 40
It rained for 40 days and 40 nights when God wanted to cleanse the world and start over.
(Gen 7:12 KJV) And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.
Noah waited another 40 days after it rained before he opened a window in the Ark.
(Gen 8:6 KJV) And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made:
Embalming required 40 days (although this was an Egyptian custom, the Egyptians recognized the period of 40 for the preparation of going into a new life, what they called the afterlife)
(Gen 50:3 KJV) And forty days were fulfilled for him; for so are fulfilled the days of those which are embalmed: and the Egyptians mourned for him threescore and ten days.
Moses was on the mountain with God for 40 days (TWICE)
(Exo 24:18 KJV) And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.
(Exo 34:28-29 KJV) And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
(Deu 10:10 NIV) Now I had stayed on the mountain forty days and nights, as I did the first time, and the LORD listened to me at this time also. It was not his will to destroy you.
Moses' face shone after the 40 days on the mountain.
(Exo 34:29 KJV) And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.
It took the spies 40 days to search out the promised land and bring back fruit
(Num 13:25 KJV) And they returned from searching of the land after forty days.
The Israelites spent 40 years in the wilderness, one year for each day they explored the Promised Land.
(Exo 16:35 KJV) And the children of Israel did eat manna forty years, until they came to a land inhabited; they did eat manna, until they came unto the borders of the land of Canaan.
(Num 14:33-34 NIV) Your children will be shepherds here for forty years, suffering for your unfaithfulness, until the last of your bodies lies in the desert. {34} For forty years--one year for each of the forty days you explored the land-you will suffer for your sins and know what it is like to have me against you.
Goliath came for forty days before being killed by David
(1 Sam 17:16 NLT) For forty days, twice a day, morning and evening, the Philistine giant strutted in front of the Israelite army.
Elijah strengthened by one angelic meal went forty days to Mount Horeb where the Lord passed by and he heard the voice of God
(1 Ki 19:8 KJV) And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God.
Jonah warned the City of Nineveh they had 40 days until God would overthrow the city. The people repented in those 40 days and God spared the city.
(Jonah 3:4 and 10 KJV) And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
Jesus fasted for 40 days in the wilderness
(Mat 3:17 KJV) And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
(Mat 4:1-2 KJV) Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. {2} And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungered.
Jesus was seen in the earth 40 days after His crucifixion
(Acts 1:3 NIV) After his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and spoke about the kingdom of God.
 
ah, i see. so random chance is a lie then. care to explain the point of a man havin millions of sperm, each of which have the potential to create a different person, if everything is predetermined?

Its not predetermined. Just because you have a million sperm doesn't mean one got randomly lucky. It just means it was that soul's turn to come to earth via another human. I believe life is here to teach you life lessons and you arrive at your situation because you chose it.
 
Did you have a consciousness somewhere in the cosmos before your life on earth?

I was dwelling on the plane of brilliant mental conceptoin of Master Fard Muhammad who is Almighty God Allah in person. It was fortoad by the Holey Bible and the Hully Koran that I would be born to teach every nigga and possum on bgol that the white man is the devil, and that Master Fard Muhammad is Almighty God Allah and that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad is his last and greatest messenger. I was conceived of a voigin boith. I have verified this because my fortha tode me that he pulled out of my mudda. My fodder didn't claim me and toed that I was conceived of a Miraculous boith. It was foitode that there would come one after the messenger to tell of the retoin of the Messenger of Allah. I am the messenger that is to pave the way for the Honorable Elijah Muhammad so that I can prep yo damm minds to receive Allah and his Messenger. My fodder tode me that I would be a spiritual light and guide for the niggas and many crackas posin as black niggas and some of you coons n possums. And here I am tooday preaching the woids of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and teaching you all that the white man is the devil. There were no references of the white man being the devil until I came here so you niggas owe me. YOU NIGGAS OOOOOOWWWEEE MEEEEH!!!:angry: For it is I who have had Allah spare yo soles so that you could take a walk a half a mile in my shews.

If you hearken onto kogalee, I will lead you back to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. WorldbFree is trying to make you a slave by leading you back to white man and back to the devil.
Come! All ye heavy laden and I shall give you rest as Kevorkian would. I am the holy sheperd and I promise to never again to prey upon my sheep. I am not a wolf in sheep's clothing as many of ye morthaforkas would thank. So come to Islam as taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad so that I can teach you that the white man is the devil. Submit yourself to Islam as taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Come to the self righteousness of kogalee. Some of you niggas and possums and fake hopet niggas think that I am a cracka. But were I a cracka, I would not eat saltines and ritz because that would make me a cannibal :lol:

Sorey bad joke. Some of you niggas aren't woithy of Allah, his Messenger, or the spiritual light of bgol who is kogalee.

Now by the power of the coondilini enagy, I now declare myself a spiritual leader up there with Faircon and I would like to take up an peese offering. I have already foiced HNIC to pay double my rate to be here and act as your spiritual guide to Elijah Muhammad.

Asalamalaikum-Amen!

HalleyLooYah! Asalamulakumamalaikumsalum! Allah Oo'Akbar!!!! Alllaaaahh Oo'Akbar!
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Its not predetermined. Just because you have a million sperm doesn't mean one got randomly lucky. It just means it was that soul's turn to come to earth via another human. I believe life is here to teach you life lessons and you arrive at your situation because you chose it.

But the Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that he is the way the throoth and the life. No man cometh unto Allah Master Fard Muhammad but by kogalee. It is through my spiritual guidance that I shall lead you to Allah in the person of Master Fard Muhammad who is Jesus Christ Jehovah Jireh!

HalleyLooYah! Asalamulakumamalaikumsalum! Allah Oo'Akbar!!!! Alllaaaahh Oo'Akbar!
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