Where is Tavis Smiley and Cornell West?

We had to read Cornell West's shitty-ass books when I was at Morehouse. None of us liked it. He's the Flo-Rida of Black intellectuals, as in, only white people really listen to him.

Hysterical

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Holy shit

What are they to gain by challenging Trump to do better? Nothing. Challenging Obama (too forcibly, of course) was meant to make pooicy while Dems had power.

What is to gain, when Black people seem to not give a shit about moving, as a group anyway.

Tavis is fighting a case, of sexual harrasment for dating a women at work, so he is #metoo, done.

West is back teaching at Harvard, and fighting more for ideological global rights (West Africans, Palestinians). Just because your not listening, doesn't mean they stopped speaking.

This was definitely my line of thinking when they first started their national "shit on Obama" tour but it didn't take long for me to have misvivings. Politicians should be critiqued and Obama is not wuthout his faults but goddamn they were everywhere all the time. What really called their motives into question afaic is when all that sponsorship info came out (Wells Fargo my g?).
 
You're just saying this to protect your own neck since you posted anti Obama threads on the regular when he was in office and been quiet about Trump

Still on you're bitch comments without context. Ok you love all Obama did, and forget what he didn't do. OK I get it. Until the next thread. I don't know who how I can be anti Obama, if I canvassed for him, donate to him and voted for him, spanning two election cycles.

Guess I demand more for my time, money and vote, than others.
 
This is easy to answer.
It was personal for them both.
Both West and Smiley HATED Obama.
These "Poverty Pimps" hated him because:
- He showed the world that he could be elected president without them.
- He showed the world that Black people COULD unite behind a single Black leader without them.
- He showed the world that he didn't have to kiss their rings (or their asses) to get support from the Black Community to be elected president.

So naturally; because of these things, they hated Barack with a passion and went after him with a vengeance.
And after Barack left office, (as you can see) they basically shut the fuck up, got right back down on their knees for the Democrats/Progressives and kissed Hillary's ass as usual. :hmm:
I just came in here to co-sign. I intensely dislike both of those fools.
 
This is easy to answer.
It was personal for them both.
Both West and Smiley HATED Obama.
These "Poverty Pimps" hated him because:
- He showed the world that he could be elected president without them.
- He showed the world that Black people COULD unite behind a single Black leader without them.
- He showed the world that he didn't have to kiss their rings (or their asses) to get support from the Black Community to be elected president.

So naturally; because of these things, they hated Barack with a passion and went after him with a vengeance.
And after Barack left office, (as you can see) they basically shut the fuck up, got right back down on their knees for the Democrats/Progressives and kissed Hillary's ass as usual. :hmm:
None of what you said is factual. This is a weak supposition at best. Ironically, the person who kissed Hillary's metaphorical ring was Obama. Further, what's the point typing words in bold colorful underlines?
 
This is easy to answer.
It was personal for them both.
Both West and Smiley HATED Obama.
These "Poverty Pimps" hated him because:
- He showed the world that he could be elected president without them.
- He showed the world that Black people COULD unite behind a single Black leader without them.
- He showed the world that he didn't have to kiss their rings (or their asses) to get support from the Black Community to be elected president.

So naturally; because of these things, they hated Barack with a passion and went after him with a vengeance.
And after Barack left office, (as you can see) they basically shut the fuck up, got right back down on their knees for the Democrats/Progressives and kissed Hillary's ass as usual. :hmm:

All this. One of the great aspects of Obama's presidency was showing how selfish many of these dudes were. They were really about us as a whole but just used black folks as a platform for their celebrity and success. Tavis really got down when Obama skipped his Black State of The Union show. When Obama skipped that he complained and then went against everything Obama did. Jesse jackson showed an intense hatred as well. All because Obama made it without them.These mfers would rather a CAC be successful than another black man that was independent of their support.
 
All this. One of the great aspects of Obama's presidency was showing how selfish many of these dudes were. They were really about us as a whole but just used black folks as a platform for their celebrity and success. Tavis really got down when Obama skipped his Black State of The Union show. When Obama skipped that he complained and then went against everything Obama did. Jesse jackson showed an intense hatred as well. All because Obama made it without them.These mfers would rather a CAC be successful than another black man that was independent of their support.

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All this. One of the great aspects of Obama's presidency was showing how selfish many of these dudes were. They were really about us as a whole but just used black folks as a platform for their celebrity and success. Tavis really got down when Obama skipped his Black State of The Union show. When Obama skipped that he complained and then went against everything Obama did. Jesse jackson showed an intense hatred as well. All because Obama made it without them.These mfers would rather a CAC be successful than another black man that was independent of their support.
1000% cosign!!!!
:bravo::bravo::bravo:

Essentially, this is exactly what Barack did to their sense of self importance & self value in The Black Power Movement:
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These two hate filled, jealous, greedy "Crab in a Barrel" minded motherfuckers right here.
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All this. One of the great aspects of Obama's presidency was showing how selfish many of these dudes were. They were really about us as a whole but just used black folks as a platform for their celebrity and success. Tavis really got down when Obama skipped his Black State of The Union show. When Obama skipped that he complained and then went against everything Obama did. Jesse jackson showed an intense hatred as well. All because Obama made it without them.These mfers would rather a CAC be successful than another black man that was independent of their support.
Spidey with that Web of Truth.
 
All this. One of the great aspects of Obama's presidency was showing how selfish many of these dudes were. They were really about us as a whole but just used black folks as a platform for their celebrity and success. Tavis really got down when Obama skipped his Black State of The Union show. When Obama skipped that he complained and then went against everything Obama did. Jesse jackson showed an intense hatred as well. All because Obama made it without them.These mfers would rather a CAC be successful than another black man that was independent of their support.

Ole pass aggressive battle rapper crab in a barrel ass niggaz... Just imagine the good that could have been done with all that energy.
 
Still on you're bitch comments without context. Ok you love all Obama did, and forget what he didn't do. OK I get it. Until the next thread. I don't know who how I can be anti Obama, if I canvassed for him, donate to him and voted for him, spanning two election cycles.

Guess I demand more for my time, money and vote, than others.
and what are you doing about trump? since we're holding politicians feet to the fire
 
Trump is a Puppet "distraction" President....just like Obama was.

As for Tavis and Cornell....Where are they? Still hustling! And not worrying about you alls red herring pov's. Obama was doing the same for the 8 years he was in office. Hustling & only worrying about him and his family.

If youre gonna call out the bs hustlers, call out all of them.
 
Trump is a Puppet "distraction" President....just like Obama was.

As for Tavis and Cornell....Where are they? Still hustling! And not worrying about you alls red herring pov's. Obama was doing the same for the 8 years he was in office. Hustling & only worrying about him and his family.

If youre gonna call out the bs hustlers, call out all of them.
You’re one of the original Obama hating clowns. You ain’t said shit about Trump but every week you were going in on Obama. Your main reason to hate him because you’re mad you’re a halfbreed. You admitted you hate being half white and Obama reminds you of that. Pitiful
 
The criticism of Obama wasn't without merit but there was definitely a personal edge to it which is beneath the image that both men present of themselves....Smiley, with his current issues, is understandable but West needs to make his presence felt in regards to Trump since he positioned himself as a voice of progressives...Trump is certainly a bigger threat to progressive objectives than Obama was
 
We know for a fact that Trump is a devil because he is white. When Dr. King was alive they asked him in an interview if he thought he might be the first black president. He said he would not accept the job if they gave it to him. For generations we have lived by everything that came from whites even if we knew it was lies and was corrupt.
A mixed president only means that he got to promote a white reality, that is all. Cynthia Mckinney did not last long in the white house because she was to real. We have no real friend in the white house. We should brag when we are able to separate and rebuild the garden of eden (THE BLACK HOUSE).
 
Then how come they couldn't "mind their own business & live their own life" when Obama was POTUS? Hmm? :hmm:
Why they not keeping that same energy today? :hmm:
Because Obama was a person of color. They went at him cause they wanted better results for their people and they felt that he was not helping black communities like he could have. Obama didn't speak much about the police brutality situationa that happened while he was president. In fact it was worse when Obama was president and he had chances to speak out on it more but he didn't. I think that pissed alot of black people about him after that.
 
and what are you doing about trump? since we're holding politicians feet to the fire

There is nothing to do about Trump, on the offensive, except try to get more of my non voting motherfuckers to change course. I work tirelessly to get more people to register and understand the power of voting, consistently. But shit, we as a people can't even agree on little shit, like how disrespectful the NFL is. So having political discussions, when folks just got beat up at work for 5 days, ain't easy.

I also have taken quite a few people to the gun range. Something about a gun in the hands of a man, and women, changes the mindset from apathy to power.

You can't expect Trump to do shit. I hoped Obama would have done more, YES I UNDERSTAND the limitations he faced. Obama has Blue Dogs ( never forget the bitch Gillibrand was one), on his own team.slowing him down. Yet Trump has McConnell corraling ahop, making his life easy, and Democrats just don't have that same fight.

And I push my family far more than fucking stranger. Hence me, just me, wanting more from Obama. But of course he was still the greatest president, post Roosevelt.

Trump is so far past sane, that he has wiped most of Obama's success in two years, and he got the judges and the court. You can't reason with an evil man, you need a lucid and aware public, so I fight on that front.

So now, what are you doing??
 
You’re one of the original Obama hating clowns. You ain’t said shit about Trump but every week you were going in on Obama. Your main reason to hate him because you’re mad you’re a halfbreed. You admitted you hate being half white and Obama reminds you of that. Pitiful
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I saw Cornell west driving down 295 in jersey. I was in like an early model Volvo I was like oh shit that’s Cornell west
 
There is nothing to do about Trump, on the offensive, except try to get more of my non voting motherfuckers to change course. I work tirelessly to get more people to register and understand the power of voting, consistently. But shit, we as a people can't even agree on little shit, like how disrespectful the NFL is. So having political discussions, when folks just got beat up at work for 5 days, ain't easy.

I also have taken quite a few people to the gun range. Something about a gun in the hands of a man, and women, changes the mindset from apathy to power.

You can't expect Trump to do shit. I hoped Obama would have done more, YES I UNDERSTAND the limitations he faced. Obama has Blue Dogs ( never forget the bitch Gillibrand was one), on his own team.slowing him down. Yet Trump has McConnell corraling ahop, making his life easy, and Democrats just don't have that same fight.

And I push my family far more than fucking stranger. Hence me, just me, wanting more from Obama. But of course he was still the greatest president, post Roosevelt.

Trump is so far past sane, that he has wiped most of Obama's success in two years, and he got the judges and the court. You can't reason with an evil man, you need a lucid and aware public, so I fight on that front.

So now, what are you doing??
being black and paying taxes...but if you admit that obama had stong opposition even within his own party what more did you really expect him to do??
 
You know what you are absolutely right. I haven't heard a peep out of those two.

I honestly forgot those dudes existed.

Then how come they couldn't "mind their own business & live their own life" when Obama was POTUS? Hmm? :hmm:
Why they not keeping that same energy today? :hmm:

Opportunists. It would be easier to shine going against Obama than it would be going against Trump.

I get it to hold politicians to the fire to do things for the people, but it comes off as cherry picking. Although Tavis has his own problems right now to deal with. #MeToo has him down for the count, so anything he will try he'd get shut down.

Not surprised at all they don't have the same energy for Trump. They would just come off as angry black men against the system and they know this. With Obama they could play a different card.
 
If you want to know what they've been saying, a simple Google search will tell you.

Y'all know Tavis has been #MeToo'd, but I know Cornel was just on a podcast a few weeks ago from The intercept
 
If you want to know what they've been saying, a simple Google search will tell you.

Y'all know Tavis has been #MeToo'd, but I know Cornel was just on a podcast a few weeks ago from The intercept

THIS.

Just because an artist isn't on the radio anymore doesn't mean they stopped making music. The fact that I stopped watching the Simpsons ten years ago doesn't mean Bart Simpson just went away. People ain't even trying to keep up with Cornell West.

It's an even cheaper shot when it comes to Tavis Smiley. It's ironic-- unfairly hating on someone today, accusing them of having unfairly hated in the past. This thread has been nothing but petty hate.
 
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