Where did you receive your education?

[Cleopatra_J]

what are you doing with it? Are you working in the field?

Currently no, I'm working @ Rutgers right now, doing what I got to do to get my Grad degree, FOR FREE! I would love to work in publishing (applied for a few rotational associate programs with major houses, but very very competitive, rolling basis admissions). I would love to be a writer for a tv show or even a producer. I love the behind the scenes aspect. I was an intern for CNN American Morning and that was very interesting.

I'm also looking forward to working with someone I know who is starting his own publishing company, I am very excited about that.

 

[Sharp]

BA, Philosophy 1987 California State University, Dominguez Hills. Spent three years in graduate school and two years in law school but never completed the degrees. 21 years being raised by Inez, my mother, taught at least as much.

 

[SinaminDelite]

I am currently in pharmacy school and I also work as an intern in a pharmacy. I think all the men that I meet are intimidated that one day I will be making way more than they will. (For those who don't know pharmacist make about $100,000 a year on average). Honestly, it won't bother me if a man makes less.

I don't think I would be able to be with someone in the same profession. At the end of the day I wanna forget about pharmacy and focus on my other interests.

Girl, I tip my hat to you. Pharm is no joke. I have a friend going through it right now between studying and working and paying for all those entrance exams. Keep doing what you do!

Great! keep it up

Thanks!

I have 4 degrees (1 PHD), and 2 professional certificates

I laugh because for me it was never about racking up degrees or status. I just love to learn. I love to read and I've been blessed to be presented with the opportunity to study different subjects at different places. If someone was going to pay me to read, I never passed up the chance. I'm not even 35 and I plan on going back to school 1 more time because learning and teaching are my joys.
The smartest man I ever met was my father and he never graduated high school so no it does not matter to me....

One more thing: School does not make people smart. Lot of simple people with degrees. I love to be with a man that knows a lot about stuff that I have no clue about. It can be cars, art, plumbing, carpentry, I don't care just be good at something and shine with what you love.

Co-sign! I've always been considered a nerd, and I could care less. School is all about learning new things for me, which is why I love it. My father plays a big part in my education, because he gave his up to take care of me and my sisters.

And school doesn't make you smart; it just means you had a means to pay for higher education. I know far too many people who love to talk about what they graduated with, but have no kind of common sense whatsoever. That kind of shit makes me laugh.

What you know about recombinant DNA and RNA transcription from a DNA template?? LOL Hey, do you and don't worry about anyone else! I'll just tell you this, if you want to go to grad school and contiue further in bio, it's a lot more respected to go for your PhD than a MS. Don't ask me why, but the scientific community just looks at it that way. I'm in my 1st yr of grad school, it's all paid for and I get a stipend of $23,000 a yr for a free education. Not bad right? I'm just tryin' to get this out the way so I can start makin' big money later in this field. Right now I'm also gettin' a real estate license within the next month, but that's beside the point.

Main point, fuck the haters, do your thing in science baby! Take care...

Thanks. I was just talking to my advisor today about going for a PhD, which is what I will do. So corny, but molecular and cell bio get me excited.

Sin, don't let ignorant ni**as get to you; seriously. I was a Psych major too, and women give me the same line about analyzing them.

These clowns don't phase me Ari, I'll keep doing what I do

 

[DiamondDeuce]

I dont' know you so don't take this personally.

I have a B.A. and an MBA from top 25 schools.

So I have been around PLENTY of women with GREAT CREDENTIALS.

<most> Men that have "decent" credentials are not intimidated by you. But your education and money alone is not what MEN look for.

I could care less how much money, or how many degrees a woman has. It is all about what type of "wife" and future "motherly" qualities I see in her. Can she cook, take cares of house, and have a disposition to take care of children. This may sound very chauvenistic........but it is what men look for. Just as women look for "provider" traits.

So in short a woman making money and having degrees is great..........but that is not what men look for. IT DOES NOT EXCUSE a woman from doing all of the other traditionally feminine things. You still need to:
Keep your body in good shape
Look presentable
Act like a lady
respect your man


Please do not fall into the same trap that a number of young VERY EDUCATED BLACK woman make and think that a good career is what should make them attractive to a man.

The good career/eduction is just icing on the cake .......for a woman that has already met the FUNDAMENTAL CRITERIA that a man is looking for.

I am currently in pharmacy school and I also work as an intern in a pharmacy. I think all the men that I meet are intimidated that one day I will be making way more than they will. (For those who don't know pharmacist make about $100,000 a year on average). Honestly, it won't bother me if a man makes less.

I don't think I would be able to be with someone in the same profession. At the end of the day I wanna forget about pharmacy and focus on my other interests.

 

[Izayoi]

Men that have "decent" credentials are not intimidated by you. But your education and money alone is not what MEN look for.

I could care less how much money, or how many degrees a woman has. It is all about what type of "wife" and future "motherly" qualities I see in her. Can she cook, take cares of house, and have a disposition to take care of children. This may sound very chauvenistic........but it is what men look for. Just as women look for "provider" traits.

Please do not fall into the same trap that a number of young VERY EDUCATED BLACK woman make and think that a good career is what should make them attractive to a man.

The good career/eduction is just icing on the cake .......for a woman that has already met the FUNDAMENTAL CRITERIA that a man is looking for.

I see your point. In my experience the two are not mutually exclusively and that's where sistas hit a wall sometimes- men assumming that since you have been to school and have your own that you are on some bougie Paris Hilton type shit. Almost all the women I know that have advanced degrees are married
(to other black people btw), have children, and cook everyday. They are still pretty traditional in their gender roles and home lives. Work is work, home is home.

 

[SWATLANTA]

Georgia Southern University- Engineering
The streets of SW atlanta- ignorance
Cascade UMC- hypocrisy
Benjamin E. Mays high school- cheating

I think that covers it for me...

 

[DiamondDeuce]

I feel you

I am not saying ALL sistas...just the ones that are complaining.

If a well educated sistas with careers that are married...then obviously they figured out what MEN desire.

All I am saying is that a six figure salary will NOT ATTRACT a man. I have heard sistas in Medical, Denatal, and law school say that "they will not marry a man that makes less money then they do". I laugh and tell them:

If you only want to date a black man that makes over $100,000/year. Think ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF WOMAN HE WANTS...and can DEMAND.
That type of man is not going to want you solely based upon what you earn. Heck why would he want you? You are 30lbs overweight, refuse to cook because you think it is beneath you since you have a master's degree, and refuse to be cordial to man until you see his resume.

That is the trap that I see academically/professionally sistas fall into.

I see your point. In my experience the two are not mutually exclusively and that's where sistas hit a wall sometimes- men assumming that since you have been to school and have your own that you are on some bougie Paris Hilton type shit. Almost all the women I know that have advanced degrees are married
(to other black people btw), have children, and cook everyday. They are still pretty traditional in their gender roles and home lives. Work is work, home is home.

 

[shanebp1978]

[BGOL sarcasm tags]

They got schools for women now?

[/BGOL sarcasm tags]​

 

[DAHITMAN]

The streets.

 

[Izayoi]

All I am saying is that a six figure salary will NOT ATTRACT a man. I have heard sistas in Medical, Denatal, and law school say that "they will not marry a man that makes less money then they do". I laugh and tell them:

Heck why would he want you? You are 30lbs overweight, refuse to cook because you think it is beneath you since you have a master's degree, and refuse to be cordial to man until you see his resume.

That is the trap that I see academically/professionally sistas fall into.

I see that as well on occassion, and if you are focused on material things then it's no suprise that it doesn't quite work out for the good. I feel like you have to be the things you want to attract and a good piece of advice I received is to let go of what you think it has too look like, cuz sometimes our visions are cloudy with too much bullshit like titles, status, etc.

 

[DiamondDeuce]

I agree.

That is why if I meet a woman that catches my eye. In the 1st conversation I do not ask her what she does for a living or where she lives.......unless it is relevant to a topic she proposed.

I see that as well on occassion, and if you are focused on material things then it's no suprise that it doesn't quite work out for the good. I feel like you have to be the things you want to attract and a good piece of advice I received is to let go of what you think it has too look like, cuz sometimes our visions are cloudy with too much bullshit like titles, status, etc.

 

[JofromthaNO]

Just curious Jo, what type of psychologist are you? Im preparing for grad school in clinical psychology and was wondering how it is for women of color (I'm assuming you're a woman of color) and what is the job market like? Alot of questions I know, but I haven't ran into many women of color who are pursuing it. Thanks feel free to pm i know it may be a long answer

I'm a school psychologist, and the job market right now is wonderful for the field. Between now and 2010, 70% of school psychologists are expected to retire. Additionally, less than 2% of school psychologists are African American, so much diversity is sought in the field.

On the flip side, I know many African American women pursuing psychology, but not necessarily clinical and/or abnormal (most do marriage and family therapy, counseling psych, and/or some other field of it). People definitely are "surprised" to see a young black woman as a psychologist, but I think of it as enlightening to the black community. Now that they've made it easier for people with masters to pursue private practice in clinical psychology, I think they'll probably be a number of black women going that route. I will say more African American women are needed working with community agencies and hospitals, as I SELDOM come across a black clinical psychologist in a hospital or working for the department of social services when I'm dealing with a (as I call it) "involved case."

 

[sean69]

Bump

why do people make such a big deal over a piece of fucking paper?

^^^ Classic BiGirl!

 

[AristotlesOwn]

Who bumped this two year old thread?

 

[sean69]

I'm bored?


... an curious?

 

[JofromthaNO]

I'm a school psychologist, and the job market right now is wonderful for the field.

Interesting I said this now as my district is getting rid of 50% of their school psychologists, and I'm struggling to find another job

 

[LeroyDibiase]

lol @ all these nerds

I ain't notice cooking school.

 

[LeroyDibiase]

I fixed you a ham sammich last night nucca what you yappin' bout now?!?

Cook mufugga, COOK! I bet you put takeout in a pan and try to play it off. Fake-n-Bake.

But seriously ladies, education is sexy.

 

[Makkonnen]

Interesting I said this now as my district is getting rid of 50% of their school psychologists, and I'm struggling to find another job

sorry to hear that

 

[Makkonnen]

Im 4 months away from my Bachelors in Accounting.I will be taking my CPA exam afterwards. I have met some men who have been intimidated,because I make good money now. But I dont feel the need to hide what I know.And I never make a man feel like I am better than him.I dont have a ego at all

 

[DV8ed]

The South Harmon Institute of Technology

 

[JofromthaNO]

You can always go back home Jo.

The kids need you.

Trust me.

Yeah, I've heard that they do...I'm looking into relocating back home for a lil bit, but the weather

I haven't actually "lived" in New Orleans since 2000, so this will be a rude awakening for me... But, they actually pay pretty good, so maybe I could vacation more by moving further down south

sorry to hear that

Ah, it's ok...just another victim of the economy, I guess...

 

[Makkonnen]

Ah, it's ok...just another victim of the economy, I guess...

Yeah who cares about children's mental health anyway
Have you thought about private practice? Maybe getting in with a group? Social Services? I'm trying to think of some easy transitions.

 

[shanebp1978]

Yeah who cares about children's mental health anyway

Exactly, this country is for shit. Why are not educators and their support staff supported first and foremost.

Many superintendents/school boards in this country always do ONE thing, CUT teachers.

Fuck their monkey ass doctorates! They got that piece of paper but can't figure out how to support the people below them. This fucking 80's mentality of fuck the little persons. These are the people who educate the majority of fucking Americans people, wake the fuck up.

Business is about profit, but these people never have a simple background in business. Business, you CUT upper management BEFORE you CUT producers. Teachers produce the PROFIT of a school system! EDUCATION! YOU DO NOT CUT THEM. YOU WOULD NEVER CUT THEM FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE BUSINESS!


Do they think it will just all work itself out! Idiots!

The school board's thinking is pure American mediocrity. Where are the volunteer furloughs, teachers would do that to save their jobs, their peer's jobs, their support staff.

No, the system goes straight to cutting jobs. That's cutting people's lives, mortgages, etc. What about new graduates and their student loans! How are they to pay those now when they earned a job in a system that now is willing to put them in the cold!?



What happens next year. Now those teachers who already have large class sizes will be tasked not only with teaching, but social work, and mental health.



The teachers should walk the fuck out. THEY SHOULD TAKE A DAY AND WALK OUT ON THE STUDENTS, EVERYONE, EVERY THING.

I know there are contracts, but what the GOD DAMN FUCK is going on when their getting shitted on.

YOU FIGHT, and it will hurt, but you FIGHT, OR YOU DIE.


An let's not even talk about where is the next generation of educators going to come from when everyone in school now is looking at the job market like . . . fuck that, I'd like some security.

It's bullshit, it's all bullshit and no one is willing to get real with it to change it because if you want to change it you gotta say NO.

An there are too many fucking white ass bitch monkeys who refuse to see when they are being punked, and have never in their lives stood up for themselves and that is fucking AMERICA. They would not step out of the system while the system rapes them.

Fuck it, end of rant. Being a child of two educators and more this shit is too personal.

 

[sean69]

Shane. My folks are educators too and I feel you 100% on this.

It's crazy though, in Europe, well from what I know, in the UK, teachers and educators don't play that shit.

They walk out in a femto-second and take industrial action.

The government knows what's up.

 

[LoneStar29]

Scool of hard knocks

Some men like it but most men don't

 

[electrik_relaxation]

One year away from graduating!! I am double majoring in International Relations (concentration on developing nations) & History with a minor in Japanese language. I plan to go to law school (Stanford or Berkeley are my dream law schools) then work in International Human Rights, or with a NGO. Shoot, maybe even the State Dept or another gov't sector.

 

[melonpecan]

Shane you scaring me. I've been trying to be a teach for about two years now...

 

[LeroyDibiase]

One year away from graduating!! I am double majoring in International Relations (concentration on developing nations) & History with a minor in Japanese language. I plan to go to law school (Stanford or Berkeley are my dream law schools) then work in International Human Rights, or with a NGO. Shoot, maybe even the State Dept or another gov't sector.

Wow. Congratulations on all that. F Stanford Law, all they will do is string you along, capture your heart *sniff* and then put you on a list.

But that Japanese minor will get you far as hell, especially as it concern international business law as most of the high-value commerce is with Japan.

 

[JofromthaNO]

Yeah who cares about children's mental health anyway
Have you thought about private practice? Maybe getting in with a group? Social Services? I'm trying to think of some easy transitions.

I'm looking at other school systems, and have applied for the two largest hospital systems where I work for some case manager type stuff...my specialty is children, but I think I can stretch my degree to work with adults with learning difficulties too...

Exactly, this country is for shit. Why are not educators and their support staff supported first and foremost.

Being a child of two educators and more this shit is too personal.

Well, I've always been told that our jobs are too expensive for school systems. But, hell, we need the extra education (and pay that comes along with it) to deal with all the bull-crap and
duties that we do...

I'm also a child of two educators, and I never remember stuff like this happening to my mom when she was working in public ed. Hell, they were supported by an union...school psychs?!? NO UNION! We have advocacy groups gunning for us, but that's about it...

 

[electrik_relaxation]

Wow. Congratulations on all that. F Stanford Law, all they will do is string you along, capture your heart *sniff* and then put you on a list.

But that Japanese minor will get you far as hell, especially as it concern international business law as most of the high-value commerce is with Japan.

Thank you! Yea I am counting on the Japanese minor to help me out a lot because with the current job market, i'm not banking on making a lot of money straight out of law school. And I hope to get scholarships because I refuse to take out 100K+ in loans.

 

[Makkonnen]

I'm looking at other school systems, and have applied for the two largest hospital systems where I work for some case manager type stuff...my specialty is children, but I think I can stretch my degree to work with adults with learning difficulties too...

That sounds good. Youre looking at different angles. Im sure if youre persistent youre gonna make it happen.