What's Wrong With the NBA Today??

RunawaySlave said:
Ummmm, who quoted whom first here??
You made a statement about MY statement
How you gonna tell me what the point of
MY statement is???
RunawaySlave said:
I dont remember who said what, its not imortant.

You know what's stupid?? The thought that a
man would be chewing GUM with a mouthpiece
in his mouth. Think about it, then think about
the announcer's well informed statement


Whether or not that he threw gum, mouth piece, tobacco, a chewed up piece of bread.....IRRELEVANT......that has no bearing on the situation. That fools action is what needs to be addressed, not WHAT was thrown, and the fact that the announcers got it wrong. UNIMPORTANT! :angry:

The hypocrisy of so many fans never ceases to
amaze. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if you condone
the actions of a Ron Artest though


I usually co-sign most of Ron Rons on court actions. :dance:
 
Lebron just stunk up the place.

Is he starting to beleive his own hype?

The Kings had a tremendous effort. That is the luckiest three I have seen in a while.

Tonight should be good.
 
cranrab said:
but this referee, now bald, just ejected udonis haslem with 2 technical fouls.

hmmm... my favorite bald headed convicted felon:

1) didn't call the charge on tobe in Q4, resulting in a score

2) didn't call the looseball foul on kwame brown in Q4, resulting in a score

oh well... i am on record as saying i thought the fakers could win 1...

congrats to the fakers for taking home court advantage from the suns...

is anyone left out there saying the phoenix suns are loaded?

leandro barbosa? brazilian garbage

boris diaw? euro trash

shawn marion? fantastic during the regular season, but EXACTLY like last year's playoffs, he disappeared...

and tim thomas, a SF is the playing C for the suns?

finally, is there any question that the fakers is REALLY lamar odom's team?
 
Soon as I saw TIM THOMAS in the starting lineup, I knew the Suns
were toast. Don't care if he hits 20 for 20, he will find a way to lose
for you
 
Must retract the statement made earlier this season about Iverson
being the "flop king". Without a doubt, the flop KING of the NBA is
Sam Cassell (AI still up there though)....you blow too hard on this
guy and he's going down....

The shit he brings to the game is yet one more reason why the NBA
is so hard up for people to watch. Enough of this, "best supporting
actor" shit. Play some fucking ball or get thrown out the league.....

By no means does that exonerate the refs...Until they finally
implement my 5 ref plan, I suggest FINES for REFEREES who make
more than 1 or 2 fuck up calls per week. STIFF fines too
 
RunawaySlave said:
Must retract the statement made earlier this season about Iverson
being the "flop king". Without a doubt, the flop KING of the NBA is
Sam Cassell (AI still up there though)....you blow too hard on this
guy and he's going down....

The shit he brings to the game is yet one more reason why the NBA
is so hard up for people to watch. Enough of this, "best supporting
actor" shit. Play some fucking ball or get thrown out the league

gotta make a couple comments about the nuggets v. clippers game 3

1st, elton brand didn't play a heady game tonight... 2 blown transition plays stick out in my mind... the 1st was a travel in a 1 on 1 situation with 5'5" earl boykins... :smh: the 2nd was the blown transition play where he went 1 on 2 against marcus camby...

2nd, everybody points to the veteran leadership that sam cassell brings to the clippers... i call bullshit... i say sam cassell is a positive addition to the clippers, and does bring some good things to the table, but TONIGHT FOR EXAMPLE, he didn't bring ANY leadership down the stretch... remember the 1 on 3 3 pointer sam cassell took after stealing the inbounds pass? a MATURE player would've held the ball and tried to capitalize on the TO (it was only a 2 possession game at that point).

aside from elton brand, the clippers have NO rebounding... on top of that, who is their hustle man for looseballs? eduardo najera was there for the nuggets, but the clippers don't have that guy...

the clippers need to get rid of all of the worthless euros too...

forgot to add two cents on coach dunleavy too... why isn't he capitalizing on the mismatch of shaun livingston being defended by earl boykins? or trying to post sam cassell on andre miller?
 
I don't disagree with you about Sudden Sam. But I believe he has
been consistent throughout the years and tonite is exactly how he
has always played. Nothing special at all.

Not a very smart player, but he is a wily veteran who will definitely
take advantage of slow witted players, like most of these high school
to NBA players out here today...Put dummies out there and Sam will
take advantage of them.

But as you saw tonite....when no one is buying his bullshit, he will
LASH OUT and actually hurt his team instead of helping them. But
it is all an act with him and that's why I believe the game doesn't
need players like that.....Guys who fake shit are ruining the game


As for the Clips, I think losing Kaman hurt them immensely tonite
especially after Brand fouled out. At least he will put a body on a
man driving to the hoop. Denver has absolutely NOTHING on it's
front line. They have to struggle for every single point....They have
to struggle to get a decent shot on every single possession.
Any squad who depends on GREG BUCKNER (!!!!) for it's outside
game is done before they start. But when Brand fouled out,
suddenly the shots started coming alot easier

On another note....is there any SOFTER of an offensive center than
Cotton Camby?? Only time I ever see him go up strong is on a
putback rebound.....Otherwise his offense is soft as melted butter

Hammer (sometimes) on defense....wet noodle on offense
 
RunawaySlave said:
Soon as I saw TIM THOMAS in the starting lineup, I knew the Suns
were toast. Don't care if he hits 20 for 20, he will find a way to lose
for you
they wouldnt have won game one without his 20 and 12 i think it was - that wack villanova faggot was doing that stupid ass hand waving in front of the face 50 cent bullshit after hitting 3's in game one :puke:



yo cranrab there's bad officiating in all the games- i saw tim duncan launch abdurrahim into space via a kung fu kick to the back on a rebound and the ref was having a ball not doing shit - shit was so blatant the announcer mentioned it then said abdur rahim had to be stronger and shouldnt let shit like that effect him blocking out for a rebound :lol: that shit had me rollin


yo on the kmart suspension - kendall gill in last month's maxim called Karl an asshole and said Karl lied to the media saying Gill was arguing with him for more minutes and mentioned how Karl would always fuck with his burn like play him the whole first half then bench him the 2nd without a word - not play him at all the first half when he was a starter then put him in 5 minutes in the 3rd then pull him again and not say shit- said ray allen hated his guts too :lol: thought that shit was funny considering the kmart situation
 
Makkonnen said:
they wouldnt have won game one without his 20 and 12 i think it was - that wack villanova faggot was doing that stupid ass hand waving in front of the face 50 cent bullshit after hitting 3's in game one :puke:



yo cranrab there's bad officiating in all the games- i saw tim duncan launch abdurrahim into space via a kung fu kick to the back on a rebound and the ref was having a ball not doing shit - shit was so blatant the announcer mentioned it then said abdur rahim had to be stronger and shouldnt let shit like that effect him blocking out for a rebound :lol: that shit had me rollin


yo on the kmart suspension - kendall gill in last month's maxim called Karl an asshole and said Karl lied to the media saying Gill was arguing with him for more minutes and mentioned how Karl would always fuck with his burn like play him the whole first half then bench him the 2nd without a word - not play him at all the first half when he was a starter then put him in 5 minutes in the 3rd then pull him again and not say shit- said ray allen hated his guts too :lol: thought that shit was funny considering the kmart situation

Good info

That was some Larry Brown shit he pulled to deflect blame from himself if they lost.
A guy wants to play hurt and he's a problem? I don't think thats the full story.

Its a power thing with Karl. Had the best team in the West for years and always found a way to lose.
 
SpiritualPorn said:
Good info

That was some Larry Brown shit he pulled to deflect blame from himself if they lost.
A guy wants to play hurt and he's a problem? I don't think thats the full story.

Its a power thing with Karl. Had the best team in the West for years and always found a way to lose.
I don't respect Karl at all. Good coaches win with average teams and Karl managed only to lose with pretty good teams. For some reason when I look at Karl he seems resigned to losing. Imagine if he had the Pistons, I think he'd tank them too.
 
Don't forget y'all. Coach Karl is also the coach of the previous
Olympic squad that lost too. And he had just as much talent
as any


On another note....did anyone see the Wizard/Cavs game??
On Cleveland's last two possessions, Lebron took both shots
and BOTH times committed obvious infractions that the refs
COMPLETELY ignored....

Ain't even gonna go into the broadcasters....Ima just say that
it sounded kind of scripted to me. The refs ignored the walks
and Taurico ignored them as well. Going the opposite route
and PRAISING James for the two buckets

Taurico's broadcasting career is just getting started and he is
already annoying as hell....sounding like the black Marv Albert.
 
RunawaySlave said:
On another note....did anyone see the Wizard/Cavs game??
On Cleveland's last two possessions, Lebron took both shots
and BOTH times committed obvious infractions that the refs
COMPLETELY ignored.

i watched that game, and lebron james' final score was RIDICULOUS... all i can do is :smh: when i think how all 3 officials missed the walk...

it's INCONCEIVABLE... :puke:
 
cranrab said:
i watched that game, and lebron james' final score was RIDICULOUS... all i can do is :smh: when i think how all 3 officials missed the walk...

it's INCONCEIVABLE... :puke:
they didnt call popeye jones standing in the semi circle jumping up and bumping lebron chest to chest either

on another note - he scored the game winning shot- didnt seem to scared to me either- he dropped 41

and how about the larry hughes drop to the floor leaving arenas wide open to brick the game winner

:smh:

was mike brown in the coach of the year running? he is a very young dude doin his thing
 
i'm cool with this, because james posey gave a bullshit cheap shot... i'm all for physical battles and MEN's basketball, but running down a player and giving him a body block is straight bullshit... didn't even try to disguise the foul with a swipe at the ball...

Heat's Posey suspended for one game

April 28, 2006

NEW YORK (AP) -- Miami forward James Posey was suspended for one game without pay by the NBA on Friday for knocking down Chicago's Kirk Hinrich on a break Thursday night in the Heat's 109-90 playoff loss to the Bulls.

Posey, called for a flagrant foul two and ejected with 3:15 left in the game, will miss Game 4 of the Eastern Conference series Sunday.

Miami leads the best-of-seven series 2-1.
 
Dolemite said:
they didnt call popeye jones standing in the semi circle jumping up and bumping lebron chest to chest either

on another note - he scored the game winning shot- didnt seem to scared to me either- he dropped 41

and how about the larry hughes drop to the floor leaving arenas wide open to brick the game winner

:smh:

was mike brown in the coach of the year running? he is a very young dude doin his thing

That is true. Despite LeBron's obvious travel, he was fouled on the play, which wasnt hard enough because he still made the shot.

I'm interested to see how the Wizards bounce back because it is no way they should be losing this series to the Cavaliers.
 
xfactor said:
That is true. Despite LeBron's obvious travel, he was fouled on the play, which wasnt hard enough because he still made the shot.

I'm interested to see how the Wizards bounce back because it is no way they should be losing this series to the Cavaliers.
i didnt know this but big bron has the league season record for 3pt shots + foul plays with 79
at 6'9 270 he can do that shit all night

he's the same fuckin size as mario williams the #1 nfl draft pick :smh: sick
 
oh yeah i left out the obligatory popeye jones ugly freak joke - im surprised he didnt scare james out the paint -
 
Damn, I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw Lebron walk on that last play
Thought I was going blind or losing my mind or something....But on the play
BEFORE that, Lebron went up for a shot, someone hit the ball, and Lebron
caught the ball in the air, then went back up for a shot wthout dropping the
ball first...

At the very least, that is a JUMP BALL, but the ref swallowed his whistle and
allowed the basket. It's really a travel, or what we used to call "Up and down"
When you jump into the air that is considered to be TWO STEPS and landing
is considered to be two more....if you jump in the air and land with the ball
that is FOUR steps

With rules that like, it's no wonder the man is so confident.....If I KNEW they
weren't ever gonna call me for any ball handling infractions, I would have the
worlds' greatest handle
 
oh hell no...

Baylor Named Top Executive in NBA.com GM Survey



Elgin Baylor
NBA general managers picked Los Angeles Clippers’ Vice President of Basketball Operations Elgin Baylor to win the Executive of the Year Award, according to respondents of the 2006 NBA.com GM Awards Survey. The results of the survey will be posted daily on NBA.com.

Baylor made several moves that were instrumental in the Clippers reaching their first postseason in nine seasons. Baylor acquired point guard Sam Cassell and a top-10 protected first round pick from Minnesota , nine days after signing free agent shooting guard Cuttino Mobley. Baylor also re-signed center Zeljko Rebraca and signed veteran free agents Walter McCarty and Vin Baker. A year after signing Quinton Ross as a free agent in Europe, Baylor went back overseas prior to the 2005-06 season to sign free agent forward James Singleton. Baylor’s acquisitions led the Clippers to the eighth best record in the NBA this season at 47-35, a 10 victory improvement over their 2004-05 record of 37-45.

Although the Clippers were firmly entrenched in the postseason hunt in mid February, Baylor felt he needed to add a shooter to stretch opposing defenses and acquired Vladimir Radmanovic from Seattle, who has added another dimension to the Clippers attack. Baylor’s acquisitions led the Clippers the eighth best record in the NBA this season at 47-35, a 10 victory improvement over the 2004-05 record of 37-45.

In the exclusive survey, Baylor received eight first-place votes, 4 second-place votes and six third-place votes for a total of 58 points. Five points were awarded for first-place votes, three for second-place and one for third-place. Finishing second to Baylor was Bryan Colangelo of the Toronto Raptors (34 points) while Donnie Nelson of the Dallas Mavericks (20 points) finished third.

adding those euros deads that shit for me...

Additional results of the 2006 NBA.com GM Awards Survey include:


Ben Wallace, Detroit Pistons - Defensive Player of the Year again?
Mike Miller, Memphis Grizzlies - Sixth Man Award
Boris Diaw, Phoenix Suns - Most Improved Player Award WTF do GMs really know?
Avery Johnson, Dallas Mavericks - Coach of the Year

The official results for the 2006 NBA Awards, including Most Valuable Player, Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, Sixth Man Award, Most Improved Player, and Coach of the Year will be announced by the NBA in the coming weeks. In the meantime, fans can visit NBA.com to preview the results of the NBA.com GM Awards Survey.
 
cranrab said:
i watched that game, and lebron james' final score was RIDICULOUS... all i can do is :smh: when i think how all 3 officials missed the walk...

it's INCONCEIVABLE... :puke:


These are the probably the same refs that call back the Seattle touchdown in the superbowl.

That shit was soooooooooo fuckin obvious I watched the replays to make sure it was THAT obvious. Turico is selling the game. He gets checks from ESPN and The NBA.

:smh: :smh: :smh:
 
just NOW jermaine o'neal is figuring out that the MENTAL aspect of the game is more important than the physical?

damn.

how many years young buck been in the league now? :smh:
 
If I gotta listen to that damn Heineken commercial with that
ANNOYING ass, "Skank Like Me" song again, I am going to
throw something at the TV set.

Proof positive that hoes should be seen and not heard :smh:
 
WASHINGTON (AP) -- As far as the Washington Wizards are concerned, LeBron James' first NBA playoff game-winning shot came with an assist -- from the officials.

And, Wizards coach Eddie Jordan said Saturday, what he thinks should have been a traveling call is part of a pattern of James getting protection from referees. He said that's the type of help Washington's own All-Star, Gilbert Arenas, isn't receiving in the first-round Eastern Conference series that Cleveland leads 2-1.

"I'm not going to get fined for saying what's obvious. Everybody sees it," Jordan said after practice ahead of Sunday's Game 4 against the Cavaliers.

"I want to give all the credit to Cleveland, (coach) Mike Brown and his staff and their players, but the truth is the truth. I want our players to understand that we did a lot of things to win the game, and because a travel wasn't called, you don't win the game."

James finished off his franchise playoff-record 41-point performance Friday night by banking in a 4-footer with 5.7 seconds left after moving past Antonio Daniels and drawing contact from Michael Ruffin.
That shot provided the final margin as Cleveland beat Washington 97-96 to reclaim home-court advantage in the best-of-seven series.

"Officials are human, and they see a great move by a great player ... or they see a hop-through move that's a travel, and they say, 'That's a great move by a great player, and it's an exciting move. It's a great finish. We'll let it go.' That's how I look at it," Jordan said.

"Clearly," he continued, "Gil doesn't get the calls that LeBron gets."

Arenas, who missed an open 3-pointer after James' shot, said all he could think about after the game was what he felt James got away with.

"You look at the game tape, you actually see the travel, and then he came down and then he threw the ball up," Arenas said. "That's how they've got to beat us. We feel we're not going to get beat straight up."

Not surprisingly, James said he didn't take too many steps on the play. Asked about it Saturday, he analyzed what happened with the same matter-of-fact demeanor that's made him a superstar at the ripe old age of 21.

"It was a basic up-and-under move ... all big men do in this league. Not too many guards or forwards. That's why a lot of people think I travel," James said.

"I've not seen the play yet, but it doesn't come down to one play," he added. "The game is not won or lost on one play."

Told of Jordan's comments about the officiating, Brown smiled and pulled out a stat sheet.

Then the first-year coach began rattling off various comparisons, noting that Arenas and James have taken the same number of free throws in the series (35), that the Cavaliers have been whistled for nine more fouls than the Wizards, and that Washington has taken 20 more free throws so far.

"Eddie's doing what he needs to do as a coach, by trying to draw attention to LeBron because of the success that LeBron has had so far," Brown said.

Then he wondered aloud whether Ruffin should have been called for a foul on that key play.

And he wondered whether Arenas got a favorable ruling when James was called for a blocking foul on the point guard's three-point play that put the hosts ahead 96-95 with 23.4 seconds left.

"Sometimes you get calls, sometimes you don't," Brown said. "They're both great players."

Jordan's complaint is not a new one, of course.

For years, coaches of teams that faced certain stars -- Michael Jordan comes to mind -- have griped about special treatment from the refs, particularly in the playoffs.

"If the Pat Rileys and the (Gregg) Popoviches and ... the Phil Jacksons and the Larry Browns can say what I'm saying, then that's what I'm saying," Jordan said. "I'm going to stand up for my team."
 
"Clearly," he continued, "Gil doesn't get the calls that LeBron gets."


NO one should "get" calls. That's the point for this entire thread
The shit needs to be called ONE way....forever. Whether it's Michael
Jordan or Chuck Nevitt....Whether it's 1.2 seconds to go in the 4th
quarter of the 7th game of the NBA finals or 100 minutes to go in
the first quarter of the first summer league game. No special calls
for certain players. Escpecially Europeans. And STOP letting white
players (and Sam Cassell) get away with using their OFF HAND as
a shield. Nash does that shit in his sleep



And once and for all, could we PLEASE do away with this "Makeup
Call" bullshit?? That has caused more problems than it has helped

Enough of the acting. Ban flopping. Charges are good, but FLOPS
should result in the DEFENSIVE player getting called for a foul. IMO
a flop is just as detrimental as a flagrant foul

And for god's sake, implement my 5 ref plan asap!!! Refs are highly
infallible, and as Cran just shown, also highly suspicious people with
low morals and no character
 
win or lose, when this series is over, people need to take a LONG look at boris diaw and leandro barbosa...

because BOTH of their game 4 defensive performances are SHIT.

they are BOTH lost, and i'm not exaggerating when i say HALF the fakers points scored so far are due to their lack of defensive execution...

they've BOTH hesitated on PLANNED help situations... :smh:

foreigners have caught up? my ass...

EDIT: forgot to add... euro and brazilian are 3-10 FGAs combined... :puke:
 
if i have to watch another one of shawn marion's chest pass jump shots :puke: , i'm gonna have to start rooting for the fakers to eliminate the suns to spare me the agony...

is there a single player in the league with a WORSE looking jump shot than shawn marion?

:smh:
 
i'm surprised nobody else commented on this already, but it had to be mentioned.

reggie evans walked up behind chris kaman DURING LIVE PLAY and reached between kaman's legs to give him a REACH AROUND! :puke: :confused:... WTF? did evans go to the dennis rodman brokeback rebounding school?

needless to say, kaman surrendered rebounding position, and after the play, retaliated against evans by shoving him to the floor, picking up a flagrant foul 1 in the process...
 
fans don't know shit. neither do announcers.

what was coach d'antoni's BRILLIANT defensive ploy regarding defending pick/roll in the 2nd half?

i anticipate the crickets will be chirping.
 
About Diaw, I believe he would probably be a better defender
if he played one SET position instead of sliding him between
five positions like that. That shit has GOT to be sort of confusing
for the guy. It would be for anyone. Barbosa is one thing, but
Diaw might be guarding Odom on one play, Brown on the next
then Smush Parker on the next. Hard to get into any kind of
rhythm defensively (yes defense DOES require rhythm), if you're
not sure who you will be guarding from one possession to the
next one

We all KNOW he's not a center, but the Suns got away with it
with alot of support from MARION playing the PF role. Who can
do alot of things a PF is SUPPOSED to do, but posting up is not
part of his game. He is a slasher, pure and simple. If you have to
DEPEND on his offense, your team is in trouble. And while he will
rebound and defend like a demon, a bigger man will probably
wear him down over the course of a series

Both of these guys are far too small to hold the paint down in a
seven game series. Just imagine if they do get by the Lakers...
What will they do when facing Tim Duncan or the Pistons frontline
or Shaq and Zo if they are getting manhandled by KWAME BROWN
like this??


Without a CENTER, Phoenix is doomed. And there's nothing anyone
can do about it....all the schemes in the world won't replace the
big man in the middle
 
The Clips are exploiting Earl Boykins very badly
Denver's lack of a SG is embarrassing. Why did
they let Leonard go without a decent substitute?

Denver just missed the broad side of a barn, damn


btw, who is that calling the LA/Denver game for TNT??
I kind of like that duo
 
Damn, anybody notice that L.A.'s lead went from around 23 to 14
in less than 2 minutes....soon as they put Sam in the game that is
 
RunawaySlave said:
The Clips are exploiting Earl Boykins very badly
Denver's lack of a SG is embarrassing. Why did
they let Leonard go without a decent substitute?

that was a disappointment... but post injury, many felt that voshon lenard had lost a step AND had lost some touch to his shot... we discussed that earlier on this forum... denver was looking to revamp their team towards a more mobile squad, taking advantage of youth and quickness.

it was great to see voshon lenard get another chance with portland, but when you go there, it's like the boneyard...

RunawaySlave said:
who is that calling the LA/Denver game for TNT??
I kind of like that duo

i'm surprised... that's your boy coach jeff van gundy... :D

BTW, did anybody notice adult video star ruby renegade (20 years old) sitting with fakers owner jerry buss in his box yesterday? next to dave winfield?
 
RunawaySlave said:
If I gotta listen to that damn Heineken commercial with that
ANNOYING ass, "Skank Like Me" song again, I am going to
throw something at the TV set.

if i gotta listen to that horrible 'fort minor' music intro shit anymore, i'm gonna :puke:

white people shouldn't be allowed to commission musical talent for those spots...

eminem?

black eyed peas?

fort minor?

:puke:
 
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