What's Wrong With the NBA Today??

RunawaySlave

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6'10" Anderson Varejao takes a CHARGE from 5'9" (at best)
Nate Robinson and the ref gives it to him.....Ref should've
called a foul on the big man on GP for not swatting that shit
back in Nate's face

Too many times in the NBA, defense gets penalized for good
plays like blocks and the like, while bullshit defense like flops
gets rewarded. Too many times
 
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Dirk ain't shit!!!
Dirk ain't shit!!!
Dirk ain't shit!!!
Dirk ain't shit!!!!



My new chant
 
Man I've been saying this shit for a while now. I can't stand watching 6'10 kats like a Jason Collins from the Nets taking charges and shit. Where are the fierce warriors of today? The kats that aren't going to bitch to the ref about every fucking play being a foul. I peep Dirk get fouled by T.Thomas and he wanted to get all hyped up about a hard foul, wtf is that all about. It's a foul, you're awarded 6 of those mothafukas a game, so If you happen to hit the floor as i closeline you, get up, shoot your free throws, and be happy I didn't decide to kick you while you were on the floor. I blame Vlade Floppin Divac. lol.. peace.
 
lol

Dirk has to get more BULLSHIT fouls called in his favor,
than any other jump shooter in history

lol at this cat getting DUNKED ON and then complaining
for a foul....BLOCK A SHOT you bitch assed biyatch!!

One time RAJA BELL posted Dirk up and scored....Raja
Bell!!!

The biggest bitch in the history of the NBA :lol:
 
I actually like Dirk's game. He toughened up alot since he first came into the league. Hes pretty durable for a Euro.
 
*gets eraser and goes up to the board*

*writes new title of thread*
What's Wrong with Dirk Nowitzki Today??





*I agree with the author of this thread.
 
I don't like Dirk Nitwitski but I wouldn't limit HIS game
to what is wrong with the NBA. I think the real problem
is that all the networks broadcasting games seem to be
hyping Dirk as the MVP of the league!! On just about
every venue available to me in NYC, they have tabbed
either Dirk Nitwitski or Steve Nash as the MVP this season

Judging from the responses in this thread, it's clear to me
that I am no the only one who sees the fallacy in this
man's game. Yet, so-called basketball EXPERTS see him
as the most valuable?? Did they even notice that the
Mavericks lost to the ATLANTA HAWKS when Josh Howard
was sidelined with his injury??

Do they notice that whenever Nash goes out, the Suns
proceed to open up big leads on damn near whoever
they are playing?? And that when Nash comes back in
the game, the leads almost always diasppear?? What
games are they watching??

This goes for ALL commentators too. No one is exempt
they ALL seem to be programmed to say certain shit and
NEVER make any real commentary on what is actually going
on. They see actual events in a vacuum. For example, not
understanding how a fight might break out. Do grown men
just ERUPT in fits of rage?? Or is it not something that
develops over the course of a few different plays?? I know
in Dirk's case, his fit of rage came from his OWN INEPTITUDE
rather than any incident from someone else. From not
doing his job as the BIG MAN (7'1" is big right??) and having
smaller players making HIM look rather small in comparison

that would make me mad too. Especially if I was that tall
and getting housed like that. :angry:
 
charley rosen - from his mailbag

What do you think is the biggest contributing factor in the drop-off in the number of great teams in the last 5-7 years? In my opinion, the best five teams in the early '90s would easily defeat the best teams from 2000 and beyond. If you agree, why is there such a considerable difference in talent level?
— Rob

I heartily agree with your premise for the following reasons: Because of the increasingly active market in free-agency, more and more teams are overhauling their rosters from season to season than ever before. This means a diminished on- and off-court rapport between the players, and between the players and the coaches. Also, the recent influx of young players, who haven't yet mastered the basics of the game, has likewise lowered the bar for everybody. Plus, coaches oftentimes have to dumb down their game plans to accommodate the undeveloped basketball IQs that these youngsters bring into the NBA. Most importantly, too many inept men are being put into positions of power (president of basketball operations, general manager, etc.) with few legitimate credentials besides their all-star names and their ability to schmooze and sell themselves. It's no accident that knowledgeable guys like Joe Dumars and R. C. Buford have been able to assemble (and maintain) mini-dynasties.
 
RunawaySlave said:
...Yet, so-called basketball EXPERTS see him
as the most..... :angry:
now my memory is clearing some... :smh: you were never MUCH of a Bill Walton fan either, right? :puke:

Right on point, Bro!
 
Fan Appreciation Day??

This is why I don't limit what's wrong with the NBA to just 7 ft euro
pussies in the paint. In my opinion, today's NBA action was a DISGRACE
These cats need to be ashamed of themselves. Looking at the scores
around the league, look at how many able bodied players decided to
take the last game off....

In fact, many of them took the last WEEK off. If I was a ticket holder,
I would take a TORCH to something and throw it on the fucking court
for the lack of respect shown to faithful TICKET BUYING fans by these
players.

All these babies talk about "playing ball is their job". Well, try to take
the fucking day off like that and you aren't sick....See don't the foreman
clock your ass out and you get no pay. I say the mutha fukkas who
took this extra time off should FORFEIT their pay for that one game. I
mean LOSE it, not donate it to charity or anything, LOSE their pay. Just
like the average guy would if he came to "work" late and decided he was
just gonna chill and not even come into the office but just watch the
rest of his co-workers "work"


fucking babies. I got a whole laundry list of pussified cats who get no
respect anymore
 
Re: Fan Appreciation Day??

RunawaySlave said:
All these babies talk about "playing ball is their job". Well, try to take
the fucking day off like that and you aren't sick....See don't the foreman
clock your ass out and you get no pay. I say the mutha fukkas who
took this extra time off should FORFEIT their pay for that one game. I
mean LOSE it, not donate it to charity or anything, LOSE their pay. Just
like the average guy would if he came to "work" late and decided he was
just gonna chill and not even come into the office but just watch the
rest of his co-workers "work"


fucking babies. I got a whole laundry list of pussified cats who get no
respect anymore

If Im not mistaking, dont most, if not all, corporate employees get paid vacation? At the discretion of the man in charge (owner or CEO), if he allows for players to take a game off and still get paid, let them. Especially if they are getting ready for the playoffs because you best believe it'll be some angry faces if a marquee player gets hurt in a 'meaningless' game. I would be disappointed more with guys that were playing the final game trying to pad their stats. :smh:
 
Re: Fan Appreciation Day??

xfactor said:
If Im not mistaking, dont most, if not all, corporate employees get paid vacation? At the discretion of the man in charge (owner or CEO), if he allows for players to take a game off and still get paid, let them. Especially if they are getting ready for the playoffs because you best believe it'll be some angry faces if a marquee player gets hurt in a 'meaningless' game. I would be disappointed more with guys that were playing the final game trying to pad their stats. :smh:


First of all, most of these guys are on vacation from now until
their training camp starts around September or so. So they DO
get a paid vacation from their so-called "job" already. The players
who are fortunate enough to make the playoffs (for additional
income btw), their "vacations" start when they are eliminated
sometime around May or so. That's 12-14 WEEKS (not days)
vacation for a "job" that work at for less than 3 hours a day
for about two-thirds of a year. But I ain't mad at em for that
That's the life so be it....

Now as for this "meaningless game" thing. To the fan paying
exorbitant prices and traveling hundreds miles to watch these
guys in god knows whatever weather and conditions there is
NO SUCH THING as a "meaningless" game. Maybe to the hard
core follower of a sports franchise it may be "meaningless", but
to that person paying 1000 a year for seasons' tickets the game
has some very serious meaning. If one of these finely tuned
athletes was to get injured in the last game, I am SURE most
fans could live with themselves. No one is saying go out there
and kill yourselves. I actually liked the free play of the last few
games. Just not the fact that the so-called "stars" felt the need
to sit out, whether they were injured or not, or whether they had
playoff implications or not

These guys are shitting on fans and that's alright with you??
 
If you want to watch NBA action anywhere, it is going to cost you
Due to the high prices, most fans can't even afford to go to a regular
season game. Yet, when you are finally able to secure a ticket, you
go to the game and here's these HEALTHY individuals, whom because
they make ridiculous amounts of money, the price of that elusive ticket
is costing the average taxpayer a full days wages (when you factor in
traveling costs, parking and eating a fucking hotdog and soda, which
ALL increases in price when the team signs a Grant Hill or a Tracy
McGrady to a 60 million PLUS contract).

If I was a fan at a game, I would end up getting thrown out. Luckily,
I just watch the games on my exorbitantly expensive cable system
So I can't throw anything at them from home


Next time somebody wants to shit on fans, I'm calling for a fucking riot
or a wildcat strike of the team. Something
 
What's Wrong With the NBA Today?

more damn rule changes....

NBA announces six rules changes
/ Associated Press
Posted: 1 day ago

NEW YORK (AP) - National Basketball Association head coaches will be able to directly call timeouts next season, one of six rules changes announced Wednesday following the Board of Governors meetings.

Under the current rules, coaches can only call timeouts if play has been stopped because a player is bleeding.
The other big change will give teams two free throws plus the ball after a clear-path foul, instead of one shot.

The other minor changes included:

-If a player is hurt after a Flagrant Foul 1 penalty and can't continue, his coach, instead of the opposing coach, picks a player on the floor to take the shots. The injured player then can't return to the game.

-Free substitution will be allowed during all 20-second timeouts, instead of only the ones during the last 2 minutes or regulation or during overtime.

-If a player not appearing on the active list enters a game, he will be disqualified at the first deal ball and his team will receive a technical foul.

-Players on the free throw line can't extend their arms in front of an opponent until the shooter has released the ball. Also, a player not in a lane space must stand behind the 3-point line and above the free throw line extended until the ball is shot.
 
They need to change the technical foul fine to something significant. Five hundred dollars is a joke to a man making a million dollars. Make it a game's pay instead. Prorate it for each player, so a player making the minimum will receive the lowest and Shaq or KG will receive the highest.

The suspension system is cool, but reduce it from 16 techs to 5. Then watch how respectful players become...

The reason why players shit on the game so much is because they are taking it for granted. Brothers need a better appreciation for professional basketball.
Pretty soon, they will become an endangered species just like Major League baseball
 
RunawaySlave said:
They need to change the technical foul fine to something significant. Five hundred dollars is a joke to a man making a million dollars. Make it a game's pay instead. Prorate it for each player, so a player making the minimum will receive the lowest and Shaq or KG will receive the highest.

The suspension system is cool, but reduce it from 16 techs to 5. Then watch how respectful players become...

The reason why players shit on the game so much is because they are taking it for granted. Brothers need a better appreciation for professional basketball.
Pretty soon, they will become an endangered species just like Major League baseball

I agree about prorating the fines. The majority of players in the NBA don't make the average. Either they have those huge bloated contracts afforded the marquee players or they're making the league minimum. When you hear the average salary is around $2-$3 million it's misleading. How many players are actually making the average salary?

Reducing the amount of technical fouls that lead to a suspension will make the league even more touchy feely than it is. It's already obvious that the superstars get more than the benefit of the doubt from the refs. The pros don't play defense as it is. This just gives them more incentive to play even less defense.

As fars cleaning up the game and players respecting the game goes... There needs to be more done to keep players in college for at least 3 years. The maturity level of those entering the league would increase. Trying to solve the problem with techs and fines is just a band-aid. Stopping the problem before they even get to the league is easier.
 
lightningrodbob76 said:
There needs to be more done to keep players in college for at least 3 years. The maturity level of those entering the league would increase.

[looking for the smiley doing a standing ovation]
 
RunawaySlave said:
They need to change the technical foul fine to something significant. Five hundred dollars is a joke to a man making a million dollars. Make it a game's pay instead. Prorate it for each player, so a player making the minimum will receive the lowest and Shaq or KG will receive the highest.

The suspension system is cool, but reduce it from 16 techs to 5. Then watch how respectful players become...

good ideas, but i'd never entrust the integrity of the game to the officials... officials carry grudges, are rarely impartial, and play favorites.

most of them are grimey little napoleons looking to impose their will on the game instead of letting the players play...

people always want to talk about nba games being fixed and point fingers at the players, but they should be taking a longer look at the officials...

in short, i'm cool with the IDEA of what you wrote, but i'd never vote YES on it because i couldn't trust the people blowing the whistle...

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Joe Crawford
Former NBA referee

•The four-year IRS investigation

•Waiting for sentencing

•Maintaining integrity

•Hope for the future

“The only time in the four-year process that I felt good is when I was reffing. Other than that, it was constantly on my mind.”

As of presstime, 10 current or former NBA referees have been charged with filing false income tax returns. All have either resigned their positions or are on leave pending the outcome of their investigations. Former NBA referee Joe Crawford, who pleaded guilty in July to filing false income tax returns, will face sentencing Oct. 2. In this exclusive interview, Crawford discusses how the four-year investigation has taken its toll on him.

Referee: How did you first hear about the investigation?
Crawford: The revenue agents actually knocked on my door at home. They wanted to talk to me about the plane ticket situation. They wanted to know about different specifics of what I did with the airline moneys as an NBA employee for the years 1989-93. They asked if they could talk to me and I let them in. We sat down and discussed the airline situation and what I did — specifics. It was totally out of the blue. When you are not a criminal you don’t expect something like that. I let them in, started talking and made some monumental mistakes.
Referee: What kind of mistakes?
Crawford: I just should have said, “See you later,” and gone and got an attorney. Instead, we started talking about specifics and they used that stuff against me later. I made the mistake of making money on my airline tickets and not putting it on my W2. That’s the case in a nutshell.
Referee: What happened next?
Crawford: They started investigating and they subpoena everything you have. They can do whatever they want to do. They checked everything that I ever had — every bank, every checking account. I never thought it was a crime.
Referee: When did the realization that this was criminal hit you?
Crawford: At the end of the investigation they deem whether the case is civil, which means you can just go in and pay your money, or they deem it criminal. They deemed what I did criminal on the basis that I submitted receipts to my employer. I should have just made the money, put it on my W2 and gone about my business. Did I think it was criminal? No. If I thought it was criminal, I would never in a million years have done that to my family and myself.
Referee: Why did you do it?
Crawford: In our collective bargaining agreement, it reads that we can make money on our plane tickets. I made the mistake of not putting it on my W2. If the government deems me to be a criminal — and I’ve already pleaded guilty to the charges — then so be it. I’ve already paid around $90,000 in legal fees. If I would have taken it to court to fight them, I would have paid another $150,000 in legal fees. If I lost the case, the $150,000 is out the window and I would go to prison. It’s like rolling the dice. I have two kids that I still have to educate. I want to take that $150,000 and educate those kids. I would rather bet my money on (NBA commissioner) David Stern than go to court.
Referee: What do you mean?
Crawford: I’m hoping David Stern shows compassion to me and my fellow officials, and I’m hoping he allows us the opportunity to referee again.
Referee: What was going through your mind through the course of the investigation?
Crawford: I was in a constant state of — I don’t know how the hell to say it — I guess the word is fear. The only time in the four-year process that I felt good is when I was reffing. Other than that, it was constantly on my mind. I went to bed with it on my mind, I woke up with it on my mind. It took them two years to notify me whether my case was criminal or civil. Then it took them another two years to decide what they were going to do. The process was absurd. It was long, tedious; it worked on my mind. It worked on my family’s mind. To be real honest with you, I’m glad it’s over. I shouldn’t say it’s over. That’s probably the wrong thing. It’s over the day I walk back on the floor. If I never referee again, it will not be over. I will die with that on my head. I now have this next hurdle, October 2, when I have to go in front of the judge, which is going to be a very difficult day. I just have to hope that my employer brings me back.
___Refereeing is my life and I’ve wanted to do it ever since I was 13 years old. When you get something like that taken away from you, it hurts. It was a mistake and I don’t think I am a criminal. I know what kind of person I am and most of the people in the league know what kind of person I am. I’m banking on the commissioner giving us our jobs back.
Referee: What was your reaction when you found out they were going to pursue it criminally?
Crawford: That was one of the worst days of my life. The next-worst day of my life was the day that I actually had to plead. My family was in the courtroom. That was bad. The third-worst day is coming October 2. Hopefully there will be good results from that. I have cooperated and I pleaded guilty and I told them I am not going to pursue it anymore. I’m just hoping the judge shows mercy on me. He’s getting letters and things like that from different people in the community saying what type of guy I am. I hope it works to my advantage. After that, I hope the commissioner gives us our jobs back. I have ups and downs. Every day is different. I just try to keep myself occupied, but it’s that dull pain that’s there all the time. I know that day is coming. It has been this way for four years. Like I said, it’s not going to be over until I walk on the floor and I hope that happens.
Referee: What if it doesn’t, Joe?
Crawford: What if it doesn’t? (pause) Then I am going to have to live with this for the rest of my life. I’m going to have to get a job and I’m going to have to go on with my life. It’s not going to be what I want, because I want to be on the floor. It’s tough for me to envision not being a part of refereeing because it has been a part of my life since I was born. It’s very difficult.
Referee: How has the scandal affected your personal life? What kind of impact has it had on your family and friends?
Crawford: They are very upset. I didn’t steal from a bank and I didn’t steal from the needy. The people I stole from were my wife and kids. That’s what upsets me more than anything. I put them through this. I put them through the mental torture and the financial burden of this and that to me is the toughest part.
___I have had some people who don’t know what to say to me. It’s like you have cancer and they don’t know what to say to you, but most of the people in the community, my family, friends and relatives have been phenomenal. I have gotten more than 200 letters, phone calls, all kinds of things from family and friends and it is amazing the compassion that people have when you go through something like this. It really is amazing. You’ve just got to fight through it. That’s all you can do.
Referee: Can a person be a convicted felon and still have the integrity to be a good referee?
Crawford: Absolutely. There are different types of convicted felons. You are not talking about a child molester here or a murderer; it’s absurd. I wish I could have just paid the money back. I’d pay whatever they want, but the government doesn’t work that way. I had to accept the system the way it is and I had to go about my business. I have to hope that the judge shows compassion and gives me a light sentence and I have to hope David Stern gives me my job back. That’s really it in a nutshell.
___I am not going to worry about what fans think because if their team is losing and I just made a call against them, they call me every name in the book as it is, so they might as well add one to it. I have enough integrity that I don’t worry about stuff like that. Did I make a mistake and not put those dollars on my W2? Yes. I have already admitted that. I have admitted it in a court of law. But I am not a cheating referee. David Stern knows that and the coaches and players in this league know it. I am the same person. The IRS knocked on my door one day and now four years later I’m the convicted felon, but I’m the same person, the same guy. I am not going to do anything to jeopardize the integrity of the game. I would never do that in a million years.
Referee: Do you think the scandal has jeopardized the general perception of the integrity of all officials?
Crawford: A moron would think that, but most morons think we cheat anyway, that we cheat for the home team, that we cheat for the superstar. That’s all bulls---. It has always been bulls---. In every clinic I go to I say, “You have to stop listening to broadcasters; you have to stop listening to all that s---. We do not cheat.” Many aren’t going to believe it. They think we cheat anyway. That’s from the beginning of time.
Referee: Was the tax situation ever a topic of conversation with the other referees in the lockerroom?
Crawford: No. Maybe at lunch or something like that, but business was business. You’d say, “Listen, we are not talking about that s---” in the room because the game is the game. In our crew through those four years, I can’t remember a time that we actually did talk about it. I am not saying that we didn’t talk about it at lunch, but I can’t remember a time we talked about it in the dressing room.
Referee: Did it affect your officiating?
Crawford: Some of our younger guys have been affected because I may have been too preoccupied. Maybe I didn’t give those younger referees some information after a game. Something may have happened in a game and I saw it and said, “I want to talk about that after the game.” But you get in the lockerroom and all of a sudden that freaking head of yours goes right back to that IRS thing. You get back to the hotel and you’re watching the game tape and your head is on that freaking case. In normal situations you’re talking refereeing and you’re thinking refereeing 24 hours a day. Some of the younger guys have suffered because I may not have been able to help them with a certain play. It really p----- me off.
Referee: Did it ever enter your head during a ballgame?
Crawford: I worked so freaking hard at that aspect of just going out on the freaking floor and saying, “Joe, work the (damn) game. Joe, work the (damn) game. Joe, work the (damn) game.” That’s what I kept saying to myself. Can I honestly say that it didn’t enter my head? No I can’t.
Referee: Were you as good a referee the last four years as you were before that?
Crawford: Yes. It made me concentrate better. I kept saying to myself, “The game, the game, the game.” In those four years I could have been in a little better shape. I always like to ride the bike the day of the game and then work the game but I was getting away from that. Hopefully when I get back, I will be able to get back into the swing of things.
Referee: Did you know going into the NBA Finals last season that those were going to be your last games?
Crawford: Yes.
Referee: What were you thinking during those games?
Crawford: I worked game two and game five. It was almost like I was saying, “Boy, I hope there’s a seventh game,” because I think I had a crack at the seventh game. With me, it’s like the season’s over a week and I want to work again. That’s my problem. This is extremely difficult for me. For me to miss any time is extremely difficult.
Referee: What was going through your mind as you walked off the court after game five?
Crawford: I’m thinking, “I hope David Stern is a compassionate guy.” I’d start wondering, “Is it the last time I’m going to be at this hotel?” All the weird little stuff. Putting on my shoes … just weird stuff that I never thought I’d think about until I got to my late 50s when I was going to think about hanging them up. It wasn’t a great feeling, to be real honest with you. I was angry. I go through different things. I am angry at myself for being a moron. I have never been one to point fingers, I’m the one that did it. If I screw up a play, I screwed the play up. It wasn’t my partner’s fault. I am angry at myself. I am not angry at anybody else; I am not angry at the government; I am not angry at the lawyer; I am not angry at the judge. I’m angry at myself. I did it and it’s a mistake that I made, a big mistake. I just hope that it can be rectified.
 
cranrab said:
good ideas, but i'd never entrust the integrity of the game to the officials... officials carry grudges, are rarely impartial, and play favorites.

most of them are grimey little napoleons looking to impose their will on the game instead of letting the players play...

people always want to talk about nba games being fixed and point fingers at the players, but they should be taking a longer look at the officials...

in short, i'm cool with the IDEA of what you wrote, but i'd never vote YES on it because i couldn't trust the people blowing the whistle...

I'm not gonna entrust the integrity of anything to an official
I don't even have to read the article to know how shady them
guys are. Or how you have to kiss their ass to get a call. That
right there shows how crooked they are. There is almost NO
objectivity when it comes to referees..

They talk about anticipating a call. How the fuck can you tell
what a person is gonna do?? You NEVER know what a person
is thinking no matter how long you've done the job

Anyway, don't you remember my 5 referee plan?? I've been
on them for years now to add more refs (like in baseball)
Each ref is responsible for only one portion of the floor. Refs
on the baselines never go past halfcourt. That way they are
always in front of the play on fast breaks and don't have to
rely on "anticipating" fouls from 30 feet away. One of the main
places where they completely botch a call is on the fast break.
Mainly because they are not fast enough to keep up with the
action. Some of those refs are VERRRRY old and cannot keep
pace. They are waaaay behind the action. That's why they have
to call something that "looks like a foul" because oft times, there
are so far behind, they cannot see for sure


My plan, for those that don't remember: One ref under each basket
at ALL times. The furthest this ref goes is the 3-pt line. A ref is on
each sideline at ALL times. So there are refs surrounding the court
in a box and one main ref at midcourt at all times. They make so many
horrendous calls on sideline plays. My way, a ref is always on the sideline
thus will not have to do the guesswork, they so often do

It's time for the NBA to take all this guesswork out of the game. Three
refs can only form a triangle around the court. Not good enough
MLB and the NFL have the right idea
 
lightningrodbob76 said:
As fars cleaning up the game and players respecting the game goes... There needs to be more done to keep players in college for at least 3 years. The maturity level of those entering the league would increase. Trying to solve the problem with techs and fines is just a band-aid. Stopping the problem before they even get to the league is easier.
I always said that eliminating the Rookie salary cap would go a long way to cutting down kids going early. A lot of these GMs are trying to get the next Kobe, KG, or Tmac and the way the Rookie scale is if you guess wrong it is of little or no consequence (first contracts are less than some of the upper echelon players contracts for one year). As long as the Rookie pay scale is what it is you will keep seeing GMs gambling in the emerging markets (Underclassmen and Euros) Go back to the Free market system of the past, it may have been more trouble but you ended up with a better product.
 
cranrab said:
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I pleaded guilty and I told them I am not going to pursue it anymore. I’m just hoping the judge shows mercy on me.The IRS knocked on my door one day and now four years later I’m the convicted felon, but I’m the same person, the same guy.

but this referee, now bald, just ejected udonis haslem with 2 technical fouls.

BTW, fuck mike tirico and his on-air histrionics following the ejection.
 
Do ya think Udonis Haslem would like my plan???
If there was a ref on the baseline like I said, he would
have had a better vantage point and U wouldn't have
thrown his mouthpiece for such a shitty non-call
:lol:
 
RunawaySlave said:
Do ya think Udonis Haslem would like my plan???
If there was a ref on the baseline like I said, he would
have had a better vantage point and U wouldn't have
thrown his mouthpiece for such a shitty non-call
:lol:

Haslem deserves to gets to get punched sqaure in the mouth for his immature, unprofessional behavior. Not a good look.
 
Sleepy Floyd said:
Haslem deserves to gets to get punched sqaure in the mouth for his immature, unprofessional behavior. Not a good look.


That's not the point....the point is, if a ref was in decent position to make a
call, brotha U would not have even had to have thrown his temper tantrum
(which was funny as hell to me)

and what's up with the obviously BLIND announcers talking about
"he threw his gum or something". It's no wonder they never see shit. Have
you EVER watched a Heat game?? Only the truly stupid don't remember that
Udonis always uses a mouthpiece
 
Vince Carter is 5-19 at half! He may want to do like one of my old coaches would like to tell us and "put his gun in his holster."
 
It's always been tough to be a Nets fan, but the toughest part
of it these days is having to root for the same team that Jay-Z
is rooting for....him AND Beyonce

you just know he ain't have nothing to do with my Nets until it
became FASHIONABLE...You know how I hate phonies
 
RunawaySlave said:
It's always been tough to be a Nets fan, but the toughest part
of it these days is having to root for the same team that Jay-Z
is rooting for....him AND Beyonce

you just know he ain't have nothing to do with my Nets until it
became FASHIONABLE...You know how I hate phonies

nets got jobbed today by the ref who called a PF with .9 seconds in regulation... jobbed, but not robbed, because RJ missed his buzzer beater...

in the suns game, the refs hit diaw with 2 PFs in Q1... so in came garbage player leandro barbosa :puke: ... suns still up by 10 going into Q2...
 
We deserve to lose today. Why??
Because we did not get a rebound
when we needed it the most. Jermaine
O'Neal showed us just what a BIG man
is supposed to do in the 4th quarter....
CONTROL the paint. Eleven points in the
4th.......NONE on jump shots

And the man who did not box the shooter
(Croshere) in a crucial possession, is
Nenad Krstic, the man who DID grab AJ's
jersey when he was driving to the hoop

A ticky-tack foul?? Absolutely, but a foul
nonetheless. If refs were on point, that call
would get made all the time

We will never win with such a lame front
line. Our best big man is 39 year old Cliff
Robinson

Our next best big man is Vince Carter. Our
leading rebounder is our PG
 
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RunawaySlave said:
That's not the point....the point is, if a ref was in decent position to make a
call, brotha U would not have even had to have thrown his temper tantrum
(which was funny as hell to me)

and what's up with the obviously BLIND announcers talking about
"he threw his gum or something". It's no wonder they never see shit. Have
you EVER watched a Heat game?? Only the truly stupid don't remember that
Udonis always uses a mouthpiece


Ummm......no, thats NOT the point. It doesnt matter if the ref made the worst, most obviously wrong call in the world, we don't need ignit' fools like 'brotha U' a fool and showin his ass on National TV.

:lol: at you trying to make a distinction bewtween gum and a mouth piece.
Both would have been equally STUPID
 
Sleepy Floyd said:
Ummm......no, thats NOT the point.
:lol: at you trying to make a distinction bewtween gum and a mouth piece.
Both would have been equally STUPID


Ummmm, who quoted whom first here??
You made a statement about MY statement
How you gonna tell me what the point of
MY statement is???


Also, you don't know that I agree with Haslem's
tantrum. I did find it funny, but I NEVER said I
agreed with it....

And I gotta LOL at you for taking up for these
announcers. You must be a big Taurico fan or
something

You know what's stupid?? The thought that a
man would be chewing GUM with a mouthpiece
in his mouth. Think about it, then think about
the announcer's well informed statement


The hypocrisy of so many fans never ceases to
amaze. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if you condone
the actions of a Ron Artest though.
 
i'm still wondering how a convicted felon has a job officiating nba games, much less the nba playoffs...

pat riley made this observation, which took the words out of my mouth:

"I was always wondering, when the ball was going that way ... why (Crawford) wasn't looking down the floor," Riley said. "I'll leave that to you. ... It's just a very unfortunate thing for us right now."

on top of that, udonis haslem's EJECTION was straight BULLSHIT. udonis haslem was overly demonstrative and MAY HAVE shown up an official, but did he curse him? NO. did he make contact with him? NO. did udonis haslem deserve a technical foul? YES. shit, i've seen players throw the BALL at the referee and not get suspended. suspension my ass.

to make things more ridiculous, ron artest got suspended the SAME AMOUNT OF TIME for giving tobe ginobili a forearm? how the hell that make ANY kind of sense?
 
cranrab said:
you must love that andrew bogut just tried to take a charge on tony delk then... :D


See what I'm saying?? Big men flopping all over the place
I can understand a big man trying to take a charge on the
perimeter if a little man goes around him or something,
but when a little man is going to the hoop, a big needs to
be a big

I blame the big men, but I blame the officiating as well. Like
I said earlier, too often, they will penalize a player for making
a very good defensive play, simply because they are not used
to seeing them make those plays and they anticipate fouls

In the last Knick game, Crawford blocks a Planninic outside
shot where he times the shot perfectly, but the ref blows his
whistle (from about 20 feet away)...

The ref embarrassingly calls "inadvertent whistle" and takes
away the foul he was about to call. This was in the last game
of the season. If that had been say, the 44th game, and it was
a significant one with alot of eyes on it, he would have made a
foul call just to save face, then afterwards made another BS
call, or what the announcers refer to as a "makeup call" to
offset it.....

But two wrongs NEVER make a right. You can never offset fuckups
Once you establish a precedent, you must stick with it to remain
consistent.....if these grwon men would just confess to making a
MISTAKE, we could move on. But they are far too small to do that
(must be BGOL members :rolleyes: )
 
cranrab said:
on top of that, udonis haslem's EJECTION was straight BULLSHIT. udonis haslem was overly demonstrative and MAY HAVE shown up an official, but did he curse him? NO. did he make contact with him? NO. did udonis haslem deserve a technical foul? YES. shit, i've seen players throw the BALL at the referee and not get suspended. suspension my ass.

to make things more ridiculous, ron artest got suspended the SAME AMOUNT OF TIME for giving tobe ginobili a forearm? how the hell that make ANY kind of sense?


Good points. It was a tantrum. It was wrong (albeit funny)
But the reaction by the ref was driven purely by ego. I do
think Artest deserved a suspension though. Not SINGLY for
the Ginobli hit (fuck him), but Artest was throwing bow at
everybody throughtout the game. He was just doing it in a
very slick manner

I hate players like that.
 
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