What Won It for Obama?
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4,000 point (33%) stock market drop in less than 3 weeks.
here are a few factors that won it for obama
1. w....without an official leader the republican party was caught with their pants down. most conservatives couldnt stand mccain...but had to deal with him for the sake of a republican victory...the democractic party looked unified and hopeful to the future....being that bush had the lowest approval rating since nixon the best choice wasnt a candidate that acted just like him
2. obama's marketing genius. i began to notice his "change" signs on his podiums when he spoke...and his logo...this type of marketing is new to politics. obama was the first to reach out to people via text, facebook and other modern mediums. this marketing effort created new registered voters and a highest voter turn out in years
3. black syndicated radio. tom joyner, steve harvey, micheal basiden all campaigned for him DAILY for hours. these shows had a reach of millions of people. black radio is a new phenomenon in our country and it definitely made an impact
4. the perfect storm....hillary and mccain both felt the election was entitled to them...and the way their campaigns were run reflects that. but so many things happened outside of anyone's control that benefited obama tremendously like the stock market crash, or hurricane ike. man couldnt stop God's will. and it is obvious that presidency was obama's destiny
5. the media...its obvious the media and hollywood had a bias to obama. many of the rebuttals and fact checking was done by the media themselves. they did a great job managing obama's message and defending him (for the most part)
1. w....without an official leader the republican party was caught with their pants down. most conservatives couldnt stand mccain...but had to deal with him for the sake of a republican victory...the democractic party looked unified and hopeful to the future....being that bush had the lowest approval rating since nixon the best choice wasnt a candidate that acted just like him
2. obama's marketing genius. i began to notice his "change" signs on his podiums when he spoke...and his logo...this type of marketing is new to politics. obama was the first to reach out to people via text, facebook and other modern mediums. this marketing effort created new registered voters and a highest voter turn out in years
3. black syndicated radio. tom joyner, steve harvey, micheal basiden all campaigned for him DAILY for hours. these shows had a reach of millions of people. black radio is a new phenomenon in our country and it definitely made an impact
4. the perfect storm....hillary and mccain both felt the election was entitled to them...and the way their campaigns were run reflects that. but so many things happened outside of anyone's control that benefited obama tremendously like the stock market crash, or hurricane ike. man couldnt stop God's will. and it is obvious that presidency was obama's destiny
5. the media...its obvious the media and hollywood had a bias to obama. many of the rebuttals and fact checking was done by the media themselves. they did a great job managing obama's message and defending him (for the most part)
This is a pretty good summary. I'm only going to add:
1) He has charisma, he had appeal that hasn't been seen since JFK. The man has so much swag the whole world was pulling for him!
2) He ran against two nuts. If it was in doubt before, watching McCain and Palin during the debates made it clear. Only the hardcore, brainwashed voted
for them. We already had eight years of two nuts, most of the country is moderate, looking crazy doesn't appeal to everybody.
3) He ran a pretty clean campaign. People are tired of mudslinging; he took the high road the whole time. Not only that, but he has a clean record. The media couldn't dig up shit on him.
4) The republican party. I've said this in another thread, this is the end of the republican party as we know it. A famous political writer (I forgot his name) predicted they were going to go out like this almost 40 years ago. They've become so extreme that the majority of the people cannot back them. Their base got smaller and smaller. The pendulum is swinging the other way.
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All Very good points. I'm not going to get to happy just yet. Yesterday I read that the Republicans are RE-GROUPING for the mid-term elections, and that they want to run an Obama-style campaign. They (Republicans) feel that all of the people that voted for Regan stayed loyal to the party for over 25 years, and that they need to change now before people stay loyal to the DEMS for the next 25 years.
Yeah; I even heard some Republican prognosticators say that the party needs to return more to its economic principles; and, taking a page out of Barack's book, seek "Wider Inclusion" into the party. That is, move away from some of the right wing "family issues" and seek out the Latino's before they become identified with Democratic politics.
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The DNC chose the right candidate and Obama did a excellent job executing the plan. When he beat HRC early he got the status & mo he needed. He also had the advantage of running against a 72yr old who had seen his best days, throw in a manufactured economic collapse and it was a wrap. CNN is already running polls on whether AA should be ended, Cali overturned gay marriage and the auto industry has pretty much stopped competing and lives on hand-outs, can anyone say 2 class society?
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one word....
ECONOMY...
Money is over everything secular.....
ECONOMY...
Money is over everything secular.....
i think the other thing dudes is over looking is that mccain could not use race as a negative without looking like the kkk. they called obama every thing else but a nigga. a lot of white americans were thinking it but as long as mccain or the media never brought it up it stayed an undertone. one thing white america has been trying to prove is that it is not racist. racism gets started from the top down. now the old line of im not racist i have black friends is going to change to im not racist i voted for obama.
Black Radio? Sorry but this election was won amongst the white voters who were initially not going to vote for Obama but realized that the economy would be much worse under another Republican. They don't listen to black radio.
You and desire did not mention the economy. That is the main reason he won.
I agree "It's the economy, stupid"
they dont listen to black radio?
u understand that these syndicated shows have a reach of over a million listeners all over the country...many of them #1 in their market's timeslot
with those numbers do u really think black people are the only people who listen to "urban" format radio?
black radio wasnt not a end all be all by any means...just like all the other issues i mentioned...it was one of the many factor that led to his success which needs to be aknowleged
Obama first Democrat to win Florida Hispanic vote. The 2008 presidential election marked the first time Florida Hispanics backed a Democrat since exit polling began in the 1980s. Obama won 52 percent of the state's Hispanic vote, compared to 42 percent for John McCain, according to exit polls done by the Democratic polling firm Bendixen & Associates -- making this election the first time the state's Hispanics have backed a Democratic presidential candidate since polling of Hispanics began in the 1980s. In 2004, President George Bush won 55 percent of the Hispanic vote to John Kerry's 44 percent.
Inside story: How Obama won Florida -- In the four months before Election Day, the Barack Obama campaign registered 200,000 new voters in Florida, opened 50 state field offices, recruited 600,000 volunteers and allocated $40 million to fight John McCain. Under state director Steve Schale's direction, it amassed a grassroots organization so far-reaching that even Republican strategists say it will change the way politics is practiced in Florida.
Remember Why Obama Won. Disapproval Of Congressional GOP "Staggeringly High"
source: Huffington Post
Poll: Obama Stimulus Effort Backed By Huge Majority
February 9, 2009 10:22AM
ven as the media continues to cast the stimulus saga as one of mounting pressure on President Barack Obama to deliver a bill that's become mired in partisan bickering, public opinion remains squarely behind the President's effort. As Obama embarks today on a mini-campaign to sell the stimulus, the numbers indicate that he may be preaching to the converted. Jake Tapper of ABC News provides the essential rundown:
Sixty-seven percent of the American people approve of how President Obama's handling his efforts to pass an economic stimulus bill, as opposed to 48% for Democrats in Congress and 31% for congressional Republicans.
In addition, the disapproval rating for Congressional Republicans remains a "staggeringly high" 58%. And the public continues to view the package as a matter of paramount concern. 51% of those polled consider the plan's passage to be "critically important," with "Only 16% say it is 'not that important.'"
What remains obscured by these numbers, however, is whether or not public sentiment lines up behind the various compromises wrought and cuts made by the coterie of "moderate" Senators. Here, the press has done a poor job elucidating what is precisely at stake. Senators Ben Nelson and Susan Collins have been allowed to skate by and issue fundamental falsehoods about what they have done to the bill. In a press release, the two Senators claim to have "funded education," and have ensured that the bill will contain "robust spending on infrastructure to create jobs, $87 billion in assistance for states, and assistance to schools, especially for special education and Pell grants." Yglesias begs to differ:
Would you ever in a million years have guessed from this rhetoric that the primary change Collins and Nelson made was to implement big reductions in aid to states and, especially, in funding for education? I think not. In their rhetoric, Collins and Nelson preserved vital education funding and state assistance while eliminating various metaphorical animal products. Meanwhile, actual changes Collins and Nelson made include:
* Elimination of $25 billion in flexible funding for state governments.
* Cut $7.5 billion in funding for "state incentive grants" to help states make progress toward NCLB goals.
* Eliminated $19.5 billion in construction aid for schools and colleges.
* Reduced new aid for the Head Start early childhood program by $1 billion.
Nowhere in their statement do Nelson and Collins make any effort to justify these decisions. Indeed, they don't even seem prepared to admit that they made these decisions.
And no one is holding Collins or Nelson to account, either. Nevertheless, the stage for these compromises -- and the attendant concerns that have since issued forth from economists like Paul Krugman, who believe that damage is being done to the bill's efficacy -- was set by President Obama himself, who sought out bipartisan input and support at the expense of his negotiating position. As Ryan Grim notes, Obama's "stimulus spending is one leg of a three-part approach" to stabilizing the economy, and if the stimulus bill shows any degree of efficacy, the President may elect to take a second pass. Whether the public will stand behind a rerun of this grueling period in the same buoying numbers is anybody's guess.
source: Huffington Post
Poll: Obama Stimulus Effort Backed By Huge Majority
February 9, 2009 10:22AM
ven as the media continues to cast the stimulus saga as one of mounting pressure on President Barack Obama to deliver a bill that's become mired in partisan bickering, public opinion remains squarely behind the President's effort. As Obama embarks today on a mini-campaign to sell the stimulus, the numbers indicate that he may be preaching to the converted. Jake Tapper of ABC News provides the essential rundown:
Sixty-seven percent of the American people approve of how President Obama's handling his efforts to pass an economic stimulus bill, as opposed to 48% for Democrats in Congress and 31% for congressional Republicans.
In addition, the disapproval rating for Congressional Republicans remains a "staggeringly high" 58%. And the public continues to view the package as a matter of paramount concern. 51% of those polled consider the plan's passage to be "critically important," with "Only 16% say it is 'not that important.'"
What remains obscured by these numbers, however, is whether or not public sentiment lines up behind the various compromises wrought and cuts made by the coterie of "moderate" Senators. Here, the press has done a poor job elucidating what is precisely at stake. Senators Ben Nelson and Susan Collins have been allowed to skate by and issue fundamental falsehoods about what they have done to the bill. In a press release, the two Senators claim to have "funded education," and have ensured that the bill will contain "robust spending on infrastructure to create jobs, $87 billion in assistance for states, and assistance to schools, especially for special education and Pell grants." Yglesias begs to differ:
Would you ever in a million years have guessed from this rhetoric that the primary change Collins and Nelson made was to implement big reductions in aid to states and, especially, in funding for education? I think not. In their rhetoric, Collins and Nelson preserved vital education funding and state assistance while eliminating various metaphorical animal products. Meanwhile, actual changes Collins and Nelson made include:
* Elimination of $25 billion in flexible funding for state governments.
* Cut $7.5 billion in funding for "state incentive grants" to help states make progress toward NCLB goals.
* Eliminated $19.5 billion in construction aid for schools and colleges.
* Reduced new aid for the Head Start early childhood program by $1 billion.
Nowhere in their statement do Nelson and Collins make any effort to justify these decisions. Indeed, they don't even seem prepared to admit that they made these decisions.
And no one is holding Collins or Nelson to account, either. Nevertheless, the stage for these compromises -- and the attendant concerns that have since issued forth from economists like Paul Krugman, who believe that damage is being done to the bill's efficacy -- was set by President Obama himself, who sought out bipartisan input and support at the expense of his negotiating position. As Ryan Grim notes, Obama's "stimulus spending is one leg of a three-part approach" to stabilizing the economy, and if the stimulus bill shows any degree of efficacy, the President may elect to take a second pass. Whether the public will stand behind a rerun of this grueling period in the same buoying numbers is anybody's guess.
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