What was Michael Jackson's sexual orientation? A SelfoSexual???

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Not everyone has a sexuality expressing itself only one way (especially if someone has had a traumatic childhood). There is a class of erotic identity disorders called paraphelias. MJ was attracted to the concept and image of himself as a pubescent boy. To confuse matters more, he also had sex with women and romanticized young boys.

A person's sexuality is NOT Just about sex. It's about identity, relationships, erotic attractions, and love. Michael NEVER had a fulfilling long-term relationship with a woman ( or another adult actually). He mistrusted females and therefore could not be emotionally intimate.

He obsessed over unavailable women but quickly discarded available ones. He repeatedly asked uninterested women to marry him. He was the only celebrity who regularly went on publicity dates with both adult females and other people’s children instead of real dates. This was a way to avoid the self-disclosure necessary for emotional intimacy and bonding.

Michael's big talent, one reason he had been called a prodigy, was for feigning emotions like love and romance on stage since he was a kid. His mother said he could convince you of things he did not know or feel.

He found it easy to act but I don't think women were his priority. Having sex with them was easy, sharing his life, heart, and soul with them was not.

Michael was emotionally frozen in puberty. Everyone who knew him knew that. When eroticism, identity, and sexuality becomes stuck in that time, an erotic identity disorder can develop.

Michael identified as pre-pubescent and said so. He told us he was Peter Pan and meant it. He sacrificed his career and well-being to continue this despite the devastation it brought him. He continued his romanticized friendships with boys (his reflections) despite legal, personal, and career problems


His erotic identity formed too early by being over-exposed to adult sexuality at a very young age. He was considered a sex symbol before he hit puberty. On stage he was the focus of lust, and adoration while barely out of childhood.

At some youthful stage his celebrity persona, empowered with so much charisma has become his erotic/sexual ideal.

Not turning to anyone else, distrustful, misogynist, narcissistic, religious, yet adored and sexualized by MILLIONS, his erotic feelings become fixed on himself as a prepubescent boy. Self erotic. Autoerotic. An erotic identity disorder develops.

But how to express this when you are emotionally immature and your sexuality disturbed and stunted?


He dressed his current favorite boys in replicas of his outfits and let them wear his clothes so he could look at them as mini -Michael. It was speculation that some of these boys, like Omer Bhatti, might actually be his sons as they so closely resembled MJ. But that is the point, they resembled him.

Jackson saw himself there,as a charismatic boy, and that is what he liked.

Jackson engaged with them emotionally, traveled with,lived with, shared with, bonded with them as one would ordinarily do a lover. He was never able to bond and share life with a woman, or an adult male for that matter.

Michael spent 367 consecutive days and nights living with 12-year-old Jonathan Spence which is longer than he ever lived with any adult except his mother.

Omer Bhatti lived with Michael at Neverland for many years. Omer’s parents lived in the employee quarters while Omer spent the majority of his time living in Michael’s house, calling Michael “Dad”.

Again, it means he was attracted to himself living as a prepubescent boy, and being with these boys was the expression of that.

Remaining a boy was a desirable, attractive trait he saw in himself, he often said so. He had more preoccupation for his ” boyness” than can be explained by a “ lost childhood”. Boyhood was a fixation and identity fused with his adult sexuality.

His home had literally millions of dollars worth of toys, dolls, superhero figures, arcade machines, mannequins and a significant amount of it being in his private space for his personal use.

He had an extensive personal collection of objects with his image, everything from fine art to figurines to posters. Everywhere Jackson looked there was an idealized, often eroticized image of himself.

It was no accidental creative impulse that MJ’s trademark year after year was grabbing his genitals on stage. Mj was a perfectionist who choreographed and planned every move. It’s no spontaneous gesture that he wanted us to look at him there. The infamous gold pants were also no accident. He was meticulous in his costume design choices. He knew he sometimes got erections on stage in front of tens of thousands of fans and those gold pants made him feel powerful and erotic.

HENCE: HOMOSEXUAL ( same gender as yourself as sexually attractive)

AUTO HEBAPHELIA. (Yourself as erotic object , auto erotic )

IN OTHER WORDS, AN EROTIC PREFERENCE FOR YOURSELF in some other expression of yourself, a pubescent boy for example.


You don’t have to have a healthy self-esteem to be autoerotic. You can loathe yourself and still have this disorder.


Michael said in conversation with Rabbi Schmully that for him “opposites don't attract” He said “women trap you with what's between their legs and then you’re done, like my brothers and their wives” Yes, he really said that.

He couldn’t feel the flip side which was, that his brothers were in love with, shared a life and children with their wives while Michael holed up at Neverland with Mini-me 12-year-old boys as companions.

Michael was preoccupied with himself as forever a boy, like Peter Pan. He found this to be attractive and often said as much. He said this and lived his life like this, I did not get this info from tabloids, which is the default insult for those who disagree.

Michael Jackson was a man/ child but he was also an adult with a sexual identity.


Sources:

A more serious kind of Peter Pan SyndromeAm I seriously suggesting that Michael Jackson was a homosexual autohebephile whose erotic goals included resembling Peter Pan and having sex with pubescent boys? I sure am."

Michael Jackson: Erotic Identity Disorder? Michael Bailey, author ,Science 2.0

Sex, Death and Michael Jackson Susan Block, author. “Michael was raised as a sex object, groomed to be an exhibitionist, dressed up and made to dance and sing “

K. Klein, Masters in Clinical Psych, private practice sex therapist. NYC, NY

 
In Was Michael Jackson A Pedophile?

We dismissed the idea that Michael Jackson was gay and the unlikeliness of his being a clinical pedophile along with being an autogynephile. So what was he?

The idea behind erotic identity disorders—that sometimes the sexual object can be inverted into the self—was first proposed by two important Canadian sexual scientists, Kurt Freund and Ray Blanchard. In their seminal paper, they focused on a series of real cases of pedophilic sex offenders who each appeared to be erotically aroused by the idea that they were children. Two of the pedophiles enjoyed putting on boys' gym clothes and pretending to be boys, while masturbating. Another fantasized about being a 10 year old boy whenever he fondled children. Another requested a consultation with a plastic surgeon in order to make his penis look more childlike. These men might be called "autopedophiles." Like autogynephiles (who want to become women and are attracted to women) and apotemnophiles (who want to become amputees and are attracted to amputees), autopedophiles have the sexual desire to become what they love, namely children.

Freund and Blanchard noted that none of the pedophiles they studied had erotic identity disorders as intense as typical autogynephiles do. They speculated that perhaps "aspirations of paedophiles who wish that they could be children are simply more limited by surgical realities."

The night of Michael Jackson's death, one television news show focused briefly on Jackson's nose. A commentator speculated that the evolution of Michael Jackson's nose was unconsciously motivated to reduce physical similarity with his father's. In its final form the disastrous nose was indeed very different from his father's (and his own, original) nose, but that speculation ignores the equally odd remainder of Michael's face. I am not expert enough in plastic surgery to speculate about the precise procedures that Jackson had, but one only has to look at a chronicle of the evolution of his face to be convinced that the surgeries were vast. Indeed, his autopsy report declared that he had had at least 13 plastic surgeries.

Normal people would hate to look like Michael Jackson did near the end of his life, and so normal people tend to assume that the surgeries were a series of big, compounded mistakes that Jackson must have regretted. Bad plastic surgery surely happens. But when it does, it is generally recognizable as a poor rendition of an aesthetically pleasing goal. Not so, Michael Jackson's face, which resembled nothing in the actual human, living world. Moreover, it has seemed to me that there was something coherent about the redesign of his face—coherent, not normal—suggesting that there was method in his madness. If so, the 13 surgeries may be explained by something other than 13 different errors of judgment.

Even if Michael Jackson's face had never seen a scalpel, even if one were simply to listen to an audiotape of him talking (not singing), one would have to conclude that he was one strange dude. The high, breathy voice with the hyper-sincere tone was not his natural manner of speech. Reportedly, when he got mad or surprised, he manifested a "big deep voice." This suggests that the former, his public voice, was an affectation.

The face and the voice were both unnatural, and he went to a lot of trouble to have them. What was he trying to say and show with them? He told us, quite directly, the most likely answer.

"I am Peter Pan," he said, more than once. He lived in Neverland. His second wife, Debbie Rowe, said that in order to get in the mood to have sex with her, Jackson dressed up as Peter Pan and danced around the bedroom. She said: "It made him feel romantic."

Jackson and I are about the same age, and I remember the Disney cartoon Peter Pan quite vividly. According to Wikipedia, in the Disney cartoon "Peter appears to be in late childhood, between 10 and 13 years old." I recently reexamined the cartoon version of Peter Pan, and sure enough, some of the facial features matched: the nose, for example. Peter Pan had pointed ears. Sure enough, a photograph of Jackson exists showing an ear that was described as "mangled by plastic surgery" but looks like it just might be a surgeon's attempt at pointy.

Some things don't quite match between Michael and Peter, however. Cartoon Peter Pan's voice was more masculine than Jackson's public voice. (Jackson's voice is more similar to Mary Martin's, the woman who played Peter Pan on Broadway and in a television special.) And Jackson's long hair—apparently a wig over a nearly bald scalp—is a clear non-match.

Am I suggesting Michael Jackson was a homosexual autohebephile? I sure am

Am I seriously suggesting that Michael Jackson was a homosexual autohebephile whose erotic goals included resembling Peter Pan and having sex with pubescent boys? I sure am. If I am right, then somewhere there are images of Peter Pan that Michael Jackson brought to a plastic surgeon. There are also computer-generated images of the surgeon's plans for Jackson's face. But I am less certain that Peter Pan is the inspiration of Michael Jackson's plastic surgeon than about the general idea that Jackson was trying to be a pubescent male.

If my theory is right, what was Michael Jackson's inner life like? Paraphilias usually reveal themselves—at least to those who have them—during adolescence. If I am right about his sexuality, then Jackson certainly had crushes on pubescent boys during puberty, perhaps when he himself was pubescent. But he grew up, and the boys he was attracted to didn't.

If he was attracted to pubescent boys, he undoubtedly felt great shame about it, due to both homophobia and the near-universal loathing of child molesters.

If he was erotically aroused by the idea that he was a pubescent boy (Peter Pan or not), then he probably suffered as his body became a man's. Analogously, autogynephilic males often experience intense gender dysphoria, longing to possess feminine bodies, and loathing their male bodies.

Because he became rich, Michael Jackson had an opportunity that would have eluded others with similar desires. He could remake himself, physically and behaviorally, into the boy he wanted. In some sense, he may have actually believed that he was a boy.

But whatever joy such delusions may have brought him would have been repeatedly interrupted by entirely adult concerns like the criminal accusation and trial, his financial difficulties, and the realization that talent fades with disuse.

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Does my theory say anything about the origins of Michael Jackson's tremendous talent? There are some correlations between sexuality and abilities. For example, gay men are vastly overrepresented among professional dancers and fashion designers. This may reflect their increased interest in and dedication to dance and fashion, rather than natural talent per se. Autogynephiles tend to be gifted in technical, mathematical, and scientific pursuits, with computer scientist being the prototypic autogynephilic occupation. But we don't really know anything about the occupational interests of hebephiles, much less autohebephiles. Although there have been rock stars accused of child molestation, it doesn't seem as if there has been an excess of such accusations (in the way, say, that a disproportionate number of figure skaters died during the AIDS epidemic, presumably because they were gay).

It seems plausible that an adolescent Jackson might have sublimated his forbidden urges into work and musical ambition. But even before he was eight years old, Jackson was a phenomenon in his hometown of Gary, Indiana, and he was only nine when he led the Jackson 5 to win Amateur Night at the Apollo Theater. I don't think my theory, or any available theory, has much to say about why he was one of the greatest performers ever. Whether or not my theory is correct, there will never be another Michael Jackson.

Michael Jackson was one of the most talented performers who ever lived. He also may have been sexually attracted to young boys, and if so, he probably molested at least one. His demons led him to do bizarre things that might still be comprehensible in light of my hypothesis. If any of us had been born with those demons, we might well have done the same or worse. His greatness led to many wonderful things, including the joy of many children. To appreciate his legacy we will have to accept that people are complex, with admirable and problematic aspects frequently—usually—coexisting. If Michael Jackson's life helps us to understand that, it may well be his most important gift to us.

 
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Fuck what ya heard, Mike was drilling mad women including diane ross. His relationship with children, male children, was complicated but I don't think it was sexual.
Brooke Shields and possibly even Madonna too..
Mark Lester, another old friend of Michael’s, gave an alternative explanation. Lester, who is rumoured to be the sperm donor/biological father of Jackson’s two kids (Paris and Prince), said that the sight of Madonna naked turned Michael “gay”.

“Jackson entered the bedroom, and Madonna was sprawled across the bed. She saw Jackson, threw off the blankets, and was fully nude. Jackson saw her, screamed loudly, and ran immediately from the room,” Lester revealed to The Daily Mail.

 
Gotta love it. All these negroes signing in telling us who MJ was fucking. People who never knew MJ or the women they say he was fucking. So cause you have a copy of Thriller you are now qualified as an historian, registrar and authority on who the guy fucked decades ago? BGOL; I swear, what difference does it make anyway? Most of yall don't even have a clue who your own wife or girlfriend is fucking but you're suddenly an authority on mufuckas you never even saw! What the fuck ever.
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Theres a roumor thats mchaels voice was actually deeper. He just talked like that on camera. It wouldve been hilarious if he acted like a real nigga the cameras stopped rolling like eddie Griffin said in his voodoo child stand up.
 
Just a small boy that never grew up, filled with self hate. Considering his level of success vs. the things he did to his body, that's the only way I can describe him.
 
Very interesting read,my personal opinion is MJ had sex with one woman in his life and that was Lisa Marie Presley. I dont think he liked sex and was afraid of women cause he saw what they did to and with his brothers. I never believed he was a pedophile and dont think he ever molested anyone. My reasoning is simple if he was messing with those kids why did ALL of them contact lawyers 1st instead of police and law enforcement. Child Services and Law Enforcement only got involved after the lawyers were contacted and filed. If he had molested my child I would have fucked him up got him arrested and still got the bag. You only go for the bag 1st to get a quick settlement without police involvement so u dont have to prove anything.
 
That is a really nice picture,they look good together too bad they didnt hook up. I read that he was into her and they dated and kissed but his handlers found out and kicked her off the tour cause he was distracted by her and was fuckin up on the Bad tour,
Well, you don't get distracted by a woman that you're not into. :dunno: JS

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Theres a roumor thats mchaels voice was actually deeper. He just talked like that on camera. It wouldve been hilarious if he acted like a real nigga the cameras stopped rolling like eddie Griffin said in his voodoo child stand up.

You ain’t heard?

Mike was bangin!

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That nigga was a 12th almond nut to the 10th degree that was his sexual orientation.

He had mental issues and it set in his late teens early 20's and that motherfucker ain't been right ever since and they know it,we know it.
 
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