What Warner Bros. Needs to Do to Replicate Black Panther's Success

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This week, every movie studio is likely scrambling to figure out how to replicate Black Panther’s success. As Marvel’s main rival in the realms of comics and movies, all eyes are on Warner Bros, home of the live-action DC superhero movies, in particular. Here’s a pro tip: The answer is not Cyborg. Nor is it John Stewart, the Green Lantern best known from the Justice Leagueanimated series. What the WB needs is an Icon.

Dreamed up by the legendary Dwayne McDuffie in 1993, Icon was a Milestone Media character that provided a clever riff on the Superman concept, and his origin story gives the character the same kind of metaphorical power that Black Panther has. Born to an advanced society in a far-off galaxy, he wound up on Earth after rocketing away from an exploding interstellar starcraft. His escape pod wound up in the Deep South in 19th-century United States, where his DNA imprinted on the first lifeform to approach.

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The enslaved black woman who found the altered infant inside became the adoptive mother of Augustus Freeman, the identity of the human once known as Arnus. Augustus’ extraterrestrial origins gave him super-strength and energy manipulation abilities that he kept secret over his longer-than-normal lifespan.
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Augustus grew to be more than a century old, living a life where he fought in the Civil War and rubbed shoulders with luminaries of the Harlem Renaissance in the 1920s. But a tragic loss led him to become a recluse until some underprivileged teens tried to rob his mansion. A display of his powers awes a girl named Raquel, who dreams up the superhero identity of Icon for Augustus. (She would become the superhero Rocket.) He dons a cape and mask once she impresses upon him how much he could inspire the economically disadvantaged black people of Dakota.

Like the fictional country of Wakanda, the character’s mythos gives access to the sweep of black history and the same reservoir of myth that Black Panther taps into so well. Icon began life on Earth as an immigrant unable to assimilate into the upper castes of American life. Even though he’s not a native of this planet, he still survived and suffered through the brutality and injustices of systemic racism, because he was locked into the form of an African American man. His arc of abandonment and reconciliation with black humanity holds significant metaphorical power, just like Erik Killmonger’s relationship with Wakanda, only he’s a prodigal son who returns as a hero.

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An Icon movie wouldn’t have to hew exactly to the character’s published comics history. That escape pod could land in the African continent or the Caribbean, setting up the start of Augustus’ life somewhere else in the black diaspora. It’d be important to keep Raquel as central to the narrative, though. The stories in Icon were as much about her learning to believe in herself as they were about Augustus reconnecting with his own hybrid humanity. Augustus Freeman is a black man who lived throughout the entire 20th century, meaning filmmakers could put him in World War I, the Civil Rights Movement, or at any other moment where history took big pivots towards greater human rights for all. The big scifi plot elements would be easy enough to do but it’s the payoff that would matter most: A black superhero who has a fraught relationship with his own disenfranchised community saving the world that discriminated against him.

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There would be hurdles to jump. While the Milestone Universe of characters was incorporated into the DC Universe in 2008, Milestone Media is its own discrete company with entanglements that would need to reckoned with before Icon could ever come to the silver screen. Besides, the state of affairs in Warner Bros.’ superhero movie division seem to be in constant flux, too. But the potential for success would be huge, and the character could become a foundation for bringing the whole multicultural Milestone Media universe to the silver screen.
Icon is the DC Comics-adjacent character who most approximates the allegorical strengths driving Black Panther’s cinematic success: He’s someone who is everything black people have been throughout history, a hero that’s been lost, found, and elevated into a symbol for all the world to look up to. As Raquel says when she first enters Augustus’ house, “Whoever lived here had more than money. They had knowledge. They had history. And I wanted it. More than I had ever wanted anything in my life.” Chances are that audiences would feel the same way.
 
I just read something by some dude that worked for Marvel and DC, forgot his name, and he said DC characters lack cinematic presence. Or something like that. In other words, except for Bats, they don't translate to the screen well; they just have no personal development. Something I've been saying from day one BTW. But this article is kinda correct. DC needs newer, fresher characters. Unfortunately, it's hard to build a fan base that quickly. Most of the Marvel characters were born in the 60's early 70's so the people who read them are grown with money to spend.
It will be interesting to see how WW2 does. WW was a period piece but that rarely plays well twice.

I'll try to find the article.

***edit*** Here it is by Mark Millar, a writer for both

https://io9.gizmodo.com/mark-millar-has-an-interesting-about-theory-why-marvel-1823282223
 
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They just needed a blueprint and this would have come naturally with Cyborg, Static Shock or John Stewart. Shit maybe even Steel or Vixen. But it honestly is too late now. Time to scrap things.
 
Teen Titans could work. Need a good writer though.

As far as black characters a Cyborg stand-alone or Vixen movie could work also if cast correctly.
 
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Mark Millar was right. They lack personal personality. They are icons that peaked during the 50's.

I just read something by some dude that worked for Marvel and DC, forgot his name, and he said DC characters lack cinematic presence. Or something like that. In other words, except for Bats, they don't translate to the screen well; they just have no personal development. Something I've been saying from day one BTW. But this article is kinda correct. DC needs newer, fresher characters. Unfortunately, it's hard to build a fan base that quickly. Most of the Marvel characters were born in the 60's early 70's so the people who read them are grown with money to spend.
It will be interesting to see how WW2 does. WW was a period piece but that rarely plays well twice.

I'll try to find the article.

***edit*** Here it is by Mark Millar, a writer for both

https://io9.gizmodo.com/mark-millar-has-an-interesting-about-theory-why-marvel-1823282223
 
Nah, DC characters do not translate well in movies except Batman and Superman who are 2 extreme characters anyone else in the middle sucks, honorable mention to Wonder Woman.
 
Nah, DC characters do not translate well in movies except Batman and Superman who are 2 extreme characters anyone else in the middle sucks, honorable mention to Wonder Woman.
They don't, and that's DCs fault. They never gave a glimpse or hinted at other heros in their movies until recently. All the old Batman and superman movies never gave a hint that there might actually be other heros out there. No foundation was built. Recycling villains. Horrible writing. It's a mess. TV was going good for a minute and now that's even falling apart, aside from Black Lightning.
 
I'd be down for a completely original idea from any company who could do a black superhero film the right way.
 
Marvel has taken b-list Super Heroes and made an empire. DC has the best starting line up in the game but until they focus on getting Superman right it's not going to work. They need to get away from the big name directors who want to re-imagine everything in their own image. Seek out young hungry Directors who will work with in the frame work of the source material. His story is the most inspiring and iconic. The chick playing lois lane is just awful in that role. At no point do you understand why Superman gives a shit about doing anything but hitting and quitting with her. The original Superman Movie from the 70's gave you the why this muthafucka would change the course of time for one human. They gotta blow that shit up and start over. None of they shit they doing works and everybody connected to the DC universe should be fired with the exception of the people who worked on Wonder Woman.
 
Looking at DC's issues - if you look at the movies side by side - the problem DC has is simple. The actors playing the roles are boring. They bring no personal charisma to the role. Iron Man, Marvel's first movie so to speak cast RDJ - a quirky funny guy that brought his personality to the Tony Stark role who was not that funny in the comics. But they let RDJ run with it. They cast Samuel Jackson as Nick Fury who we know is also riveting even in small roles. And we can go on and on, the only bump I would say is Chris Hemsworth in the first Thor but they fixed that by letting him get more humourous through the movies and less Shakespearean.

Then as they moved deeper into the comics with Guardian or Ant-Man, they didn't go for pretty boys but for actors that the audience knew and like, Chris Pratt from Parks and Rec and Paul Rudd from everything.

So you look at Black Panther and the casting was flawless - not a hiccup in the bunch including Andy Serkis who ate the scenary and was funny until _____ .

You go to DC and what have you got Batman with Christian Bale - ok but the Joker stole the show, Superman Return with Brandon Routh - :boring:

Man of Steel with Henry Cavill :bud:

Wonder Woman was ok but I don't think Gal Gadot is riveting -

I mean I can go on but beside maybe Jason Momoa - there is no personality or charisma amongst the whole DCEU.
 
Yall know Icon is a conservative black republican right. Lol nobody wants to see that.

BPs success is tied to his scarcity, its a one time thing.

They should do Vixen and put a black woman on screen. If they do milestone it should be Hardware
 
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I think Static could be done correctly. But the problem is the universe around him is Trash. They need a complete hard reboot and focus on Characters and world building. They have a lot of potential but its a mess. Earth 1,2, 3, X and the movies are all separate? Didn't they learn anything from the convoluted comics?
 
DC Comics already has a Black character that can replicate
the success of Black Panther... but only if they do it right. :yes::yes:
(Keyword: IF)


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For Starters......

Give him his OWN movie. :yes::yes:
Make him the Anti-Hero. :yes::yes:

Present Egypt/Africa the right way. :yes::yes:
DO NOT include ANY "Shazaam" Character. :hmm::hmm:
 
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black adam correct:dunno: i think cyborg is coming up soon hence the black panther movie.

DC Comics already has a Black character that can replicate
the success of Black Panther... but only if they do it right. :yes::yes:
(Keyword: IF)


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Give him his OWN movie. :yes::yes:
Make him the Anti-Hero. :yes::yes:

Present Egypt/Africa the right way. :yes::yes:
DO NOT include ANY "Shazaam" Character. :smh::smh:
 
John Stewart or nothing....

All of these Kats who grew up watching John Stewart as the definitive green lantern. That’s your movie...

All you have to do is introduce Hawkwoman in the first movie... have her human form and set up Thanagar and her betrayal for the sequel. The first movie can have him tagging along with Sinestro for the first movie... and set up sinestro as a honorable partner.

I’d have the red lanterns as the first Villian..... you can introduce John Stewart military background skills to uncover the red lantern conspiracy. I’d have the Thanagarian invasion as the second movie.... and then I’d set up a mixture of Blackest night and the Sinestro corps for the final movie.

Bam.... shit writes itself.

I mean shit writes itself.
 
black adam correct:dunno: i think cyborg is coming up soon hence the black panther movie.
Yup. Black Adam. :yes:
He could be DC's next big 'mealticket', in my opinion.

Just needs a good story. A solid ensemble cast. Historical Accuracy to improve Production Values. Fewer White Folks. ALOT More Diversity.

But most of all... keep Shazaam away from it. :rolleyes:
Faaaar away from it. :yes:

Sell Black Adam.... all on his own. :yes:
Don't associate him with anyone else. :smh: Especially Shazaam.

If WB Executives cannot create/market a Black Adam movie... without... saying the word 'Shazaam', then it will fail. :rolleyes:
 
Yall know Icon is a conservative black republican right. Lol nobody wants to see that.

They should do Vixen and put a black woman on screen. If they do milestone it should be Hardware


Yeah I was about to say...

Him being a conservative republican is the problem with icon.
 
Yup. Black Adam. :yes:
He could be DC's next big 'mealticket', in my opinion.

Just needs a good script. A solid ensemble cast. Historical Accuracy.
Fewer White Folks. More Diversity.

But most of all... keep Shazaam away from it. :rolleyes:
Faaaar away from it. :yes:

Sell Black Adam.... all on his own. :yes:
Don't associate him with anyone else. :smh: Especially Shazaam.

If WB Executives cannot create/market a Black Adam movie... without... saying the word 'Shazaam', then it will fail. :rolleyes:

Well a black Adam movie is definitely coming.... but something tells me that it’s not going to be the movie you would want.
 
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