yea jesse jackson remember him?
not saying king would of ended up like him but.....
we tend to idolize the dead more then the livin
What if Martin L. King met with Malcolm X - The Meeting
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not saying king would of ended up like him but.....
we tend to idolize the dead more then the livin
True - BUT - you should know, I know a history major and the way he talked let you know that sometimes history isn't always quite "gospel truth" as you might think.....
Point - we should quite underestimate the damage a sex scandal could do.. My history teacher implied that a man that never cheated on his wife is a lot harder to dig up dirt on than one who did or does...yea jesse jackson remember him?
not saying king would of ended up like him but.....
we tend to idolize the dead more then the livin
I understand what you are saying, sometimes history can be biased. However, in the case of Malcom X l think that history is correct because they dude was too much of a radical
Thurgood only had one vote on the Supreme Court (and also did his lawyerly thing earlier with Brown vs. Board of Education). He didn't change the hearts and minds of a country with his oratory and organization, nor did he create a climate that compelled the passage of historic Civil Rights legislation.
yea jesse jackson remember him?
not saying king would of ended up like him but.....
we tend to idolize the dead more then the livin
Jesse has ruined his own image by some of the controversial statements he has made. It is also of paramount importance to note that Jesse Jackson was and it still a bit more militant compared to MLK.
Thread got hijacked like United 93, I scrolled past all that shit.Why why why? Why do people continue to engage Blunt in bullshit conversation when they already know what Blunt is? Folx always trying to one up Blunt to look smart when most smart people already know it's asinine to argue with a troll
I think Elijah Muhammad was lying his ass off.
yea jesse jackson remember him?
not saying king would of ended up like him but.....
we tend to idolize the dead more then the livin
Jesse and MLK have NOTHING in common. Mush-mouthed Jesse tried to hijack MLK's legacy and he managed to ride the wave for a while, but he's just not in the same league and is way too much of an old-school hustler.
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Reasoning with ignorance is like freezing molasses to make it flow
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"Just my opinion but what folk don't realize is all this disrespect and us killing us that occurs today is a direct misinterpretation of the "by any means necessary" doctrine. King understood as did Malcolm, later that today you hate ur enemy but tomorrow you'll hate ur brother. Hate can't be controlled. Fixation and healing (yeah I said it, and used it like a rap guy) comes thru love and understanding perhaps education. Finally the irony of it all was that Malcolm stood for stopping the man from doing damage before he did the damage but U never heard of him raising his hand in any violence. King was the figure head for peace but that guy standing next to him would've killed U to save king or the movement as would any number of king's followers. Just something to think about."
Neither could've been successful w/out the other. It's all about timing. In fact Obama 10 yrs earlier or later may not have been the president. It's about all about timing.
That's exactly what Malcolm finally figured out about the corrupt NOI and its sleezy hustler leader Elijah Muhammad.
is that why they murdered MLK.. he was the cooler head? Do yourself a favor and read MLK's book, 'Why We Cant Wait'.. it will help reduce your ignorance on the subject cause you're just quoting white people's watered-down version of history concerning MLK.
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"His great problem was the inability to emerge with a solution"-- This criticism is the main one I've heard from political scientists on Malcolm X, the credit the major legislation of the 60s to King and that side of the movement and then point to Malcolm X and that side and say "What did he accomplish?"
Good add
"His great problem was the inability to emerge with a solution"-- This criticism is the main one I've heard from political scientists on Malcolm X, the credit the major legislation of the 60s to King and that side of the movement and then point to Malcolm X and that side and say "What did he accomplish?"
Its like that whole "Ghetto Scholarship" debate.
Good read!!!!!
And fuck a Jessie Jackson his name should not even be mention here
He stood in the shadow of greatness(King)and failed to keep the movement going. Always 10 steps behind. Always being reactive instead of proactive
Your kidding right?
Please tell me you really ain't that big on studying history and then I will understand why you said what you said about Jackson.
Jessie had the chance to step into the shoes of DR King and become his successor. This he did not do. Like I said before he was reactive not proactive.
And yes I know my history. When King was killed no one in his court
took over the leadership of the civil rights movement including Jackson himself.
If Jackson would have really been a leader of the people we, as 12.9%
of the US population, would have been a stronger voice in the government during the 70's, 80's(The era that Reagen took most of the gains back)and 90's.
No strong black leadership after Dr. King die. Jessie totally missed his chance to do this, he had his face and name out on the court and did not bring his A game with it!
Jesse, as well as others, did step into Kings shoes and they did their thing on a local level. Jesse was not suppose to be Kings successor. They all were: Lawrey, Abernathy, Andy Young, etc.. and they all did their part.
You want to blame Jesse for not having a voice in the government in the 70's - 90's? How bout Andrew Young? Joseph Lawrey? Ralph Abernathy? Huey Newton? Stolkley Carmichael? H Rap Brown? and all the other Black "Leaders"?
None of them was Dr. King but they continued. Blacks started to be heard. Jesse ran for president (and black people doubted him) and was in 3rd place for most of the primaries. (first time in history)
We need to remember we vote people into office. If Our People aint running, then how can we get people into office to represent us?
Did you ever read when Dr. King went to go live in Chicago and the Blacks there treated him like shit? King Moved back to the south. Point is King was not every black persons leader back then, so you shouldn't expect anyone to be your leader now but don't ignore their accomplishments while you sit at home and don't do nothing about problems you claim exist.
Hadn't really heard of that...
Forty years later and this is still being used to divide us. Both men would've found a way to work together despite ideological differences.
Anything else is just worthless speculation. Leave it alone
Anything else is just worthless speculation. Leave it alone
i thought they did meet 
They did meet. They both agreed to disagree on King's non violent response. But they were forming a coalition. Part of it was that Malcolm went to various African countries and speek with the leaders and have the U.S. brought up on human rights violations against it's black citizens. This would expose the U.S. and further smear it's image. J. Edgar Hoover would and the president would have none of that.
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