what do you personally believe about the OJ murders?

???

  • OJ killed them both unassisted

  • OJ killed them with an accomplice

  • OJ hired/persuaded someone to kill them

  • OJ was framed; he wasn't involved at all


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In their minds, big famous black man killed fair, blond white woman after mistreating her for years.... AND got away with it. White people are allowed to get off... they may be hated and persona non grata, but their freedom doesn't eat away at white people's souls like the big famous black man that got off. Mark O'mara (Zimmerman's lawyer) and Jose Baez (Casey Anthony's lawyer) can try the victim and make up all kinds of shit to get their clients off and they aren't hated on, but OJ's lawyers had much hate thrown at them. They're all doing fine (the living ones) but how many times have you seen them on cable news as legal experts commenting on current cases (after winning the trial of the century?


I hear ya!! But, why?? I cant figure it out.
 
Damn she was fucking other men in front of him and abusing the hell out of him making him look stupid. He has an image /brand to maintain. Once she got caught the first time she should have ended it. He left his first wife for her and it was a nightmare.

Ron Goldman was at the wrong place at the wrong time, from cumulative infidelity abuse. If anything the father should have blamed Nicole. Put yourself in his shoes with her messing with his friend.

If you want to date other men get a divorce.
 
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I heard talk of a theory that OJ's son did it. OJ caught the beef for his son and though he may have assisted his son cover it up after the fact, OJ did not kill Nicole Brown Simpson or Ron Goldman

I've heard that OJ's son attack his boss with a knife and during one of his angry fits cut off his girlfriend's hair with a knife. Because of that I believe that is possible OJ didn't kill
 
I've seen people stabbed up. It is alot of blood. It is hard for me to believe that this 48 year old ex RB is going to stab up a 25 year old bodybuilder while Nicole just sits there. that nigga aint Tony Jaa. Then he somehow cleans himself and gets rid of the bloody clothes, and shoes,but takes off the gloves and just leaves one there.

I agree with your assessment of the crime scene:
https://www.documentingreality.com/...son-ronald-goldman-murder-crime-scene-167834/

I find this interesting, if the victim of a crime is black (say in a police shooting or rape,etc.) and the alleged perpetrator is white, the investigation seems to be centered around the victim (their background and possible criminal history). However, when the victim of a crime is white and the alleged perpetrator is black then the focus is on the alleged perpetrator. I think the LA County District Attorney's Office should have done a more thorough investigation into the lifestyles of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman. In addition, someone on this site many years ago mentioned the "Murder of Michael Nigg," and how it could have a connection to this case.

PS. Has anyone found the murder weapon yet?
 
What do I believe about the murders??? I believe I don't give a shit. Give it a fuckin' rest already. :hmm:
 
I still believe this all revolves around Faye Resnick. Chick has a rep for dealing with some hard-line dope dealers in and around Hollywood.

To allow Resnick to "escape" any call to court was a mistake on the part of OJ's lawyers.

She was also the very first person to write about the murders as soon as she hiding out in Upstate NY.

I was living in Oregon, working in a sea of White folks when this case happened. All those folks were freaked and angry about this case. I couldn't believe how personally these idiots took this case.

Honestly,
I was just laughing about the whole thing. Keep in mind, this shit was just a few years after the Thomas/Hill hearings.

And another case of Black Man holding White America under it's grip by being under a microscope. And exposing its Racism. Though most of US have issues with these two Black Men.
 
I personally believe cacs will never get

Over oj

In my humble opinion it signified change

Cacs have a history of killing and raping our women and skating away Scott free

We have a history of just lookin at a becky and get lynched
.for the first time ever a bruh member of the God race a so called black man
.allegedly murked not only a becky but a euro male as well and got off....

That shit scared cracker jesus out them cacs...

Just like having a eumelanated family in the whitehouse....

Now they want to make America great again

Sheeet they better put another eumelanin rich family in there Pronto


These cacs are gonna send cac America back to the stone age.
 
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Good read from this thread

The usual coons never surprise me

Y'all was them same coons saying what lil Jon did(teaching us how to read) was a bad thing

Fuck u all
 
I still believe this all revolves around Faye Resnick. Chick has a rep for dealing with some hard-line dope dealers in and around Hollywood.

To allow Resnick to "escape" any call to court was a mistake on the part of OJ's lawyers.

She was also the very first person to write about the murders as soon as she hiding out in Upstate NY.

I was living in Oregon, working in a sea of White folks when this case happened. All those folks were freaked and angry about this case. I couldn't believe how personally these idiots took this case.

Honestly,
I was just laughing about the whole thing. Keep in mind, this shit was just a few years after the Thomas/Hill hearings.

And another case of Black Man holding White America under it's grip by being under a microscope. And exposing its Racism. Though most of US have issues with these two Black Men.
Friendship with Nicole Brown Simpson
Resnick and Nicole Brown Simpson first met in 1990. The two socialized with each other in and around Brentwood, Los Angeles and vacationed in Mexico together.[1][13]

Faye's third husband, Paul Resnick, reported that a concerned Nicole called him in early June 1994 to report that "Faye was getting out of control" and abusing cocaine again. Resnick stayed for several days at Brown's condominium until on June 9, 1994, Nicole and several other friends conducted an intervention and persuaded Faye to check into the Exodus Recovery Center in Marina Del Rey, California.[1] Three days later, Brown and her friend, waiter Ronald Goldman, were murdered.[11][12]

WOW :eek2:
 
I still believe this all revolves around Faye Resnick. Chick has a rep for dealing with some hard-line dope dealers in and around Hollywood.

To allow Resnick to "escape" any call to court was a mistake on the part of OJ's lawyers.

She was also the very first person to write about the murders as soon as she hiding out in Upstate NY.

I was living in Oregon, working in a sea of White folks when this case happened. All those folks were freaked and angry about this case. I couldn't believe how personally these idiots took this case.

Honestly,
I was just laughing about the whole thing. Keep in mind, this shit was just a few years after the Thomas/Hill hearings.

And another case of Black Man holding White America under it's grip by being under a microscope. And exposing its Racism. Though most of US have issues with these two Black Men.

it might have helped us but it wasn't a mistake since he was found not guilty lol
they did everything right because they got the verdict they wanted.
 
Because he ran when he saw the finger pointed at him for murder?

Why would that cause him to run and then contemplate suicide?

Man, I was 12 or 13 when those murders happened and I remember saying to myself, "This is quick. Why did they arrest O.J? How do they know he did it?"

Now, if my young ass could recognize that they wanted O.J as a suspect right off the bat, you know they jumped to conclusions pretty early without looking at all possibilities (mob ties, drug debts). Now as I look back, when I consider how cops testified about tightening up a crime scene to ensure convictions, a lead detective's opinion on interracial marriage, and the sloppy chain of custody of evidence, I can see how they wanted it to be O.J, then they did what they could to make it stick.

Not to mention the pressure they probably got from the white citizens of Brentwood and L.A. to get the black husband of the murdered white woman.

OJ has 6 domestic abuse complaints in his history. He would go down to the station, shake hands, take some Picts and be out.

Whenever a spouse is killed the first person that look at is the husband/wife. With OJ having a known history of beating her then of course he was the #1 suspect and they looked at him extra close.
 
Folks I think all you have to do is look at the testimony of Dr. Henry Lee. The world's leading doctor of forensics on crime scenes. He says it all. White America has never found an answer to his testimony and never will cuz he wrote the book on it. He said something was wrong and oj got off. If those detectives did their job rather than trying to ram-rod oj and relying on the old moniker the husband did it which might be the case in certain situations they would have found the killers.
 
If you're Black and believe O.J committed those murders, you're either two types of coons.

1.) An inadvertent coon who failed to do his/her own research and let the influence of the dominate society cloud your thinking.

2.) A deliberate coon who's monkey see monkey do (do anything and believe everything the white "man" says).

If you're white, you're just suspect - typical.

F Lee Bailey killed it when he spoke candidly about that witness they never got to use - Tom Lang. He was walking his dog that night and saw the killers. He described them as white men.
 
DAMN...

never knew this
The Mezzaluna restaurant was a nexus for cocaine distribution back in the 1990s.

I think it was on San Vicente. It's a Peete's Coffee now.

It wasn't until I got older I learned everybody Nicole was involved with was crime-associated. Most of the waiters got killed at that restaurant. I think a former boss of Ron was either killed or had his car fire-bombed.
 
The Mezzaluna restaurant was a nexus for cocaine distribution back in the 1990s.

I think it was on San Vicente. It's a Peete's Coffee now.

It wasn't until I got older I learned everybody Nicole was involved with was crime-associated. Most of the waiters got killed at that restaurant. I think a former boss of Ron was either killed or had his car fire-bombed.


Damn man, thats wild...

So was she into coke and shit too?

I was 9 when it happened and havent really kept up with it since. Although I do believe OJ was framed.
 
The most important thing is what the case exposed about the LAPD. At that point they had just been exposed world wide as a racist lynch mob and now there's proof of them mishandling evidence and hiring known white supremacists a few years later. This was a horrible look.

IMO I wouldn't be surprised if he did it, but there just wasn't enough credible evidence or witnesses to prove it. The jury made the right call

It exposed it but never really latched on. The same people that knew LAPD wasn't shit before are the ones effected by it. I don't think people thought less of LAPD since.IMO the Dorner situation was far more exposing.Cops were randomly killing people while looking for him but the news didn't really cover it and it was forgotten.
 
Nicole was involved with some shade characters. Check out Tariq's Twitter, he explains it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">6. Nicole &amp; Ron had several other friends who were killed around the same time. One was Ron Goldman&#39;s former employer Brett Cantor (center) <a href="https://t.co/QyUS2YoZ11">pic.twitter.com/QyUS2YoZ11</a></p>&mdash; Tariq Nasheed (@tariqnasheed) <a href="">July 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Damn man, thats wild...

So was she into coke and shit too?

I was 9 when it happened and havent really kept up with it since. Although I do believe OJ was framed.

11/25/96 AT 10:20 pm ON CHNL 13 UPN LOS ANGELES

The news report was that THE LA POLICE said that Nicole was probably at
the wrong place at the
wrong time. Why because Ron Goldman's 3 best friends were killed or
murdered right after Ron's death. One was killed in the same manner as
Ron Goldman and Nicole. Slashed throats. 4 others have disappeared or
vanished. The connection is that they all worked at Mezzaluna. At the
time of the murder of Ron -- he was having financial problems.

Mezzaluna Murders

Murder of Michael Nigg (Ron Goldman's Friend

Brett cantor was a friend of Nicole & Ron and murdered similarly to them.

He finds meaning in the knifing death of music promoter Brett Cantor, whose body was found June 30, 1993, in his Hollywood home. Sources said Cantor had pushed underground music in a nightclub where Goldman once worked and Nicole Simpson liked to dance. And, Freed asked, what about the other waiter at Mezzaluna, the restaurant where Goldman worked, who was shot and killed in a Hollywood parking lot in September 1995, after a struggle with two robbers?

OJ didn’t even know Nigg or Brett. OJ is totally innocent. Just the way J. Edgar Hoover covered up for the Mafia & mob, LAPD covered up for Los Angeles drug dealers. Criminals and police often have a symbiotic relationship.

Another Mezzaluna waiter's car was fire-bombed but he survived.
 
Nicole was involved with some shade characters. Check out Tariq's Twitter, he explains it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">6. Nicole &amp; Ron had several other friends who were killed around the same time. One was Ron Goldman&#39;s former employer Brett Cantor (center) <a href="https://t.co/QyUS2YoZ11">pic.twitter.com/QyUS2YoZ11</a></p>&mdash; Tariq Nasheed (@tariqnasheed) <a href="">July 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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*two cents*
 
In some ways, the O.J Simpson trial reminds me of Rubin "Hurricane" Carter.

It's nothing for a corrupt law enforcement department to punish a Black person for a crime he didn't commit while letting the real (white) perps go.

In the land of white supremacy, that's justice.
 
Los Angeles, CA – Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown were killed in 1994 and OJ Simpson was charged and acquitted of the double murder, but there are 5 other murder victims linked to the OJ Simpson case that were also murdered between 1993 and 1995 that most people never heard of.

1. Antranik “G-12” Geuvjehizian, 31 ( – Jul. 19, 1995), G-12 was a Los Angeles County Sheriff Deputy who worked in the courts as Judge Lance Ito’s ballif. During the OJ Simpson trial, he was also responsible for sequestering the jury at a nearby hotel. On July 19, G-12 was out one evening to take out the trash with his wife, when confronted by an individual identified as a prowler. The balif decided to chase this person, the wife heard yelling, then a gun shot. He died as a result of that gun shot wound. Judge Ito coincidentally lived in the same Pasadena community as G-12 and he suspended the trial the next day in memory of G-12.

Terrance Keith Patridge was sentenced to 54 years for killing the balif, and 373 years plus life in prison in a separate case involving a home robbery and sex crimes including rape.

2. Charles Minor (1948 – 1995), well known music producer in Hollywood with a reputation as being a lady’s man, and he crossed paths with an overly jealous woman, Suzette McClure , who ended up shooting and killing Minor at his Malibu home.

3. Casimir “Casey” Sucharski (1946 – 1995), shot and killed in his home along with 2 other guests by two masked gunman. He was a night club owner and very successful businessman, Seth Penalvar and Pablo Ivar were sentenced to death for this triple homicide but in 2012 Penalvar had his death penalty over turned, and Ivar also had his dedath penalty overturned as well.

4. Michael Scott Nigg (1969 – 1995), worked at the Mezzaluna restaurant along with Ron Goldman, and was shot and killed at a ATM bank machine in Hollywood. Rumors have circulated that Nigg along with other employees at Mezzaluna were involved in snall scale drug trafficking.

5. Brett Cantor, 25 (Nov. 5, 1967 – Jul. 31, 1993), Cantor was a young successful record executive that was also co-owner of the Hollywood night club / bar The Dragon Fly. He was friends with Ron Goldman and Ron, Nicole Brown and Faye Resnik were known to have frequented this club. Approximately 11-months before Ron & Nicole were murdered, an intruder entered Cantor’s home, and with a knife killed him in the same way that Ron and Nicole were be murdered.
 
I still believe this all revolves around Faye Resnick. Chick has a rep for dealing with some hard-line dope dealers in and around Hollywood.

To allow Resnick to "escape" any call to court was a mistake on the part of OJ's lawyers.

She was also the very first person to write about the murders as soon as she hiding out in Upstate NY.


I was living in Oregon, working in a sea of White folks when this case happened. All those folks were freaked and angry about this case. I couldn't believe how personally these idiots took this case.

Honestly,
I was just laughing about the whole thing. Keep in mind, this shit was just a few years after the Thomas/Hill hearings.

And another case of Black Man holding White America under it's grip by being under a microscope. And exposing its Racism. Though most of US have issues with these two Black Men.

Good points!
 
Los Angeles, CA – Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown were killed in 1994 and OJ Simpson was charged and acquitted of the double murder, but there are 5 other murder victims linked to the OJ Simpson case that were also murdered between 1993 and 1995 that most people never heard of.

1. Antranik “G-12” Geuvjehizian, 31 ( – Jul. 19, 1995), G-12 was a Los Angeles County Sheriff Deputy who worked in the courts as Judge Lance Ito’s ballif. During the OJ Simpson trial, he was also responsible for sequestering the jury at a nearby hotel. On July 19, G-12 was out one evening to take out the trash with his wife, when confronted by an individual identified as a prowler. The balif decided to chase this person, the wife heard yelling, then a gun shot. He died as a result of that gun shot wound. Judge Ito coincidentally lived in the same Pasadena community as G-12 and he suspended the trial the next day in memory of G-12.

Terrance Keith Patridge was sentenced to 54 years for killing the balif, and 373 years plus life in prison in a separate case involving a home robbery and sex crimes including rape.

2. Charles Minor (1948 – 1995), well known music producer in Hollywood with a reputation as being a lady’s man, and he crossed paths with an overly jealous woman, Suzette McClure , who ended up shooting and killing Minor at his Malibu home.

3. Casimir “Casey” Sucharski (1946 – 1995), shot and killed in his home along with 2 other guests by two masked gunman. He was a night club owner and very successful businessman, Seth Penalvar and Pablo Ivar were sentenced to death for this triple homicide but in 2012 Penalvar had his death penalty over turned, and Ivar also had his dedath penalty overturned as well.

4. Michael Scott Nigg (1969 – 1995), worked at the Mezzaluna restaurant along with Ron Goldman, and was shot and killed at a ATM bank machine in Hollywood. Rumors have circulated that Nigg along with other employees at Mezzaluna were involved in snall scale drug trafficking.

5. Brett Cantor, 25 (Nov. 5, 1967 – Jul. 31, 1993), Cantor was a young successful record executive that was also co-owner of the Hollywood night club / bar The Dragon Fly. He was friends with Ron Goldman and Ron, Nicole Brown and Faye Resnik were known to have frequented this club. Approximately 11-months before Ron & Nicole were murdered, an intruder entered Cantor’s home, and with a knife killed him in the same way that Ron and Nicole were be murdered.

Good "leg work" ViCiouS!
 
She messed with alot of married men, so not only could they have committed the murders, the wives could have put a hit out on her.
 
I find it very interesting that people are stuck on OJ "behavior" and his attitude and personality for their reasoning why he killed them; as oppose to truly looking at the evidence, or lack there of; it amazes me that when we talk about hard core evidence and timelines and reality events; those same people have none; but yet will go back to his "behavior" :hmm:....
 
from various conspiracy threads:


I'm not sure of the facts as presented above. There was Michael Nigg, a
waiter at the Mezzaluna who was driving a Mercedes was gunned down in
one of those LA robberies (like Ennis Cosby) where the person is gunned
down without anything being taken. That was in September 1995, so it
wasn't Simpson on that one. The question arises how Nigg could afford to
own a Mercedes. It's been a long time since I worked as a busboy, maybe
they tip a lot better these days, but owning a Mercedes is a little
curious.

Remember that Keith Zlomsowitch took off for Florida. He has been
described as the maitre 'd at the Mezzaluna, and also "Director of
Operations". He also held a similar position at the Aspen Mezzaluna.
https://blog.simplejustice.us/2011/01/13/the-flee-opens-old-wounds/

Recall, Aspen was where Nicole met Kato Kaelin and her lover Grant
Cramer.

There was John Debello, the manager who did the books and came in on
Sunday nights for a free meal, who supposedly had gotten into a fight
with Goldman over Nicole (KILLING TIME and an interview during the trial
with someone identified as "Jack," a PI with the Simpson case I'm
guessing was McKenna). Debello testified at the prelim and then
disappeared.

"A restaurant colleague's car was torched in 1994 in Corona Del Mar,
California." - KILLING TIME

"A second friend's life was threatened at his Aspen Colorado night club.
Both potential victims have disappeared..." -KILLING TIME

Brett Cantor, who has been described as Goldman's former employer,
former friend, and also as owning the club regularly attended by Ron,
Nicole, and Faye Resnick (The Dragonfly, in Hollywood) had his throat
slashed like the two Bundy victims on July 20, 1993, a year before the
murders.

Then there was OJ's organized crime friend, Casimir "Butch" Sucharski,
who was machinegunned along with two lady friends at his Miramar,
Florida, estate a week or so after OJ was behind bars. Sucharski had
visited OJ two weeks before the murders. -A PROBLEM OF EVIDENCE



www.murderpedia.org/male.I/i/ibar-pablo.htm



The Mezzaluna was known for being a cocaine distributing location in LA.
Joey "the Ip" Ippolito had been the biggest Hollywood cocaine
distributor before he went to jail prior to the murders (although he was
on the lam after escaping from a roadside workteam before the murders).
Al Cowlings had been a "driver" for Ippolito and had been at the Ip's
place when the cops raided it. AC testified on the Ip's behalf at a
grand jury in 1993.

Then there's the story about Samantha Hill who's suitcase contained the
addresses and phone numbers of AC and OJ, as well as ten to fifty pounds
of cocaine (depending on which press account you read).

We all saw the National Enquirer story on Denise Brown's acquaintance
with Tony "the Animal" Fiato, former mob "enforcer" and now in the
federal witness protection program.
Denise Brown Shuns `Tony The Animal' Questions
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...012_1_fiato-denise-brown-nicole-brown-simpson
anthonyanddeniseatlogan.jpg

http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1995/M...ise-Brown/id-6e78e5ef0b554396975edd6722cebb39

http://www.cnn.com/US/OJ/daily/9-19/pm/index.html
Mob figures called to discredit detective
September 20, 1995

LOS ANGELES (CNN) -- O.J. Simpson's defense team called two mob figures to the stand Tuesday in an attempt to undermine the credibility of a lead detective in the case.

Defense attorneys summoned Craig Fiato, a.k.a. "Tony the Animal," and his brother Larry in an effort to show Los Angeles Police Detective Philip Vannatter lied when he told the jury Simpson was not an immediate suspect in the slaying of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman.

Judge Lance Ito banned audio and video taping of the testimony because the Fiato brothers had expressed concern for their safety.

On the witness stand, Larry Fiato indicated that Vannatter contradicted his trial testimony.

According to a transcript of his testimony, Fiato said the detective told him in January Simpson was a suspect. "Word for word, I don't know," Fiato said, "but it was something to the effect that he went over there as Mr. Simpson (was) a suspect."

When questioned by prosecutor Brian Kelberg, Fiato said, it was not a serious chat, and that they were laughing and joking.

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Craig Fiato's testimony was more vague. He said Vannatter mentioned that the husband is always a suspect but did not make it clear he was speaking of Simpson.

Defense attorney Robert Shapiro questioned Vannatter about the conversation with Fiato.

"(D)id you tell Larry Fiato that ... that you went to Rockingham because O.J. was a suspect, the husband is always a suspect, on the 18th floor of the balcony while smoking a cigarette in February of this year?" Shapiro asked.

"I don't have a specific recollection of making that statement; I don't believe I did make that statement," Vannatter replied.

"Are you saying you didn't make that statement?"

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"May I finish my answer, please? ... Again, any person that has personal contact with a murder victim is a potential suspect until they are eliminated, until the investigation is completed. He may have taken something out of context. I have no recollection of making that statement."

Prosecutor Brian Kelberg tried to show that Vannatter's conversation with Fiato was brief and casual.

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Earlier Tuesday, Shapiro made a point of saying that Denise Brown, sister of victim Nicole Brown Simpson, had an affair with Craig Fiato. Brown's mother, who was seated in the courtroom, angrily denied the affair, and the Brown family's attorney demanded an apology.

The defense also introduced an FBI agent, a so-called handler of the Fiato brothers, who said he caught of snippet of Vannatter's chat with Fiato. Then it was prosecutor Kelberg's turn again.

"Was he being sarcastic?" Kelberg asked. "In my view it was total sarcasm," the agent said.
 
I find it very interesting that people are stuck on OJ "behavior" and his attitude and personality for their reasoning why he killed them; as oppose to truly looking at the evidence, or lack there of; it amazes me that when we talk about hard core evidence and timelines and reality events; those same people have none; but yet will go back to his "behavior" :hmm:....

The timeline and physical evidence says he didn't do it "himself"; his behavior/attitude/personality points to him more than likely having someone else do it for him. There's a reason why when a spouse is murdered they look at the other spouse first, if there is a history of jealousy and domestic violence they look at them even harder, when you run when you think the cops are coming to get you then you're telling the cops that you are guilty, panicked and went on the run to evade capture. These exact same scenarios have happened over and over and over again when these types of murders have been committed
 
Damn didnt even know about the letter from Nicole..

I still get the feeling OJ going to catch a bullet from either Fred or Kim Goldman.. probably will be like Eddie Murphy in that one SNL skit

"OUUCH!!!..I've been shot."
 
Are you saying that the carotid was not severed? I have no medical background... saying that right up front.... and you may be right, but just posting this because it's from the Los Angeles Chief Coroner at the time:




http://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/08/u...d-killer-and-struggled-coroner-testifies.html

Cannot see her left neck at all. The structure on the right appears to be the internal carotid and internal jugular vein, and appears to be intact above where the blood clot is. Very possible that the blood clot may be covering the area that is severed. Major arteries can sometimes retract when severed, due to the muscular content in the artery walls. There is also the possibility of a partial tear, which still bleeds but will appear to be intact when the blood remaining within it coagulates after death.

I'd be a fool to disagree with the ME report without having examined the patient.
 
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