Wasn't someone, on here, saying how well Gadhafi treats his people?

[Cruise]

And neither do you, but from all the evidence (if you have someting different, please show it) it was Libyan's that started this revolt and Libyan's that asked for any help they could get.

According to this logic, every country in the world would be invaded by every other country in the world, all the time.

In the United States, the treatment of slaves, native Americans, women, immigrants, the falsely imprisoned would have the United States in a constant state of invasion.

This is ridiculous reasoning to justify stupid and racist action to get control of Libya's natural resources.

In your world, any grievance, at any time, by anyone, justifies military invasion of sovereign nations. Now, that's terror.

You know, several thousand miles away from the action, a lot of Libyans would undboutedly ask you: who the fuck are you to tell them how they should have handled their dictator ?

Do you have any Libyan experience that would give you some special insight as to how they should manage their affairs ? ? ?

Right back at ya. All I've seen is white propaganda supporting Libyan invasion.

There is a reason why it was so hard to get to Qadaffi and why NATO had to drop bombs on a peaceful country for their "rebels" to seize control.

A dictator with oil is a dictator to the world.

Nice!

 

[QueEx]

If Cointelpro makes the exact same statements that you just did, I would be happy to respond. But, just as I ignored your ramblings just above Cointelpro's comments, I am ignoring these too.

 

[nittie]

How can a country housing 25% of the worlds prison population take the moral hi-road. How can they suggest democracy when the wealth in America is controlled by 1% of the population. Let's talk.

 

[QueEx]

According to this logic, every country in the world would be invaded by every other country in the world, all the time.

In the United States, the treatment of slaves, native Americans, women, immigrants, the falsely imprisoned would have the United States in a constant state of invasion.

This is ridiculous reasoning to justify stupid and racist action to get control of Libya's natural resources.

In your world, any grievance, at any time, by anyone, justifies military invasion of sovereign nations. Now, that's terror.



Right back at ya. All I've seen is white propaganda supporting Libyan invasion.

There is a reason why it was so hard to get to Qadaffi and why NATO had to drop bombs on a peaceful country for their "rebels" to seize control.

Nice!

How can a country housing 25% of the worlds prison population take the moral hi-road. How can they suggest democracy when the wealth in America is controlled by 1% of the population. Let's talk.

An NTC fighter brandishes the engraved golden
pistol that belonged to Libyan leader Muammar
Gaddafi near Sirt on October 20, 2011. Fighters
in Misrata found other items belonging to Gaddafi
as they took down the dictator, including his
satellite phone, a brown scarf and a boot belonging
to him. Thaier al-Sudani / Reuters

"Most Libyans weren't concerned about the circumstances of the hated leader's death, but rather were relieved the country's ruler of 42 years was gone, clearing the way for a new beginning. "If he (Gaddafi) was taken to court, this would create more chaos, and would encourage his supporters," said Salah Zlitni, 31, who owns a pizza parlor in downtown Tripoli. "Now it's over."


"Libya's interim leaders are to formally declare later Sunday that the country has been liberated. The ceremony is to take place in the eastern city of Benghazi, the revolution's birthplace."




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http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2097580,00.html

 

[nittie]

An NTC fighter brandishes the engraved golden
pistol that belonged to Libyan leader Muammar
Gaddafi near Sirt on October 20, 2011. Fighters
in Misrata found other items belonging to Gaddafi
as they took down the dictator, including his
satellite phone, a brown scarf and a boot belonging
to him. Thaier al-Sudani / Reuters

"Most Libyans weren't concerned about the circumstances of the hated leader's death, but rather were relieved the country's ruler of 42 years was gone, clearing the way for a new beginning. "If he (Gaddafi) was taken to court, this would create more chaos, and would encourage his supporters," said Salah Zlitni, 31, who owns a pizza parlor in downtown Tripoli. "Now it's over."


"Libya's interim leaders are to formally declare later Sunday that the country has been liberated. The ceremony is to take place in the eastern city of Benghazi, the revolution's birthplace."




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http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2097580,00.html

Libyans have their own reasons for doing things but in the big picture the world is heading down a slippery slope by allowing this to go un-questioned. It's how the U.S. ended up in Iraq, how companies became Too Big To Fail. Emotions should never trump law and order.

 

[SPECTRE1]

There needs to be a balanced perspective when evaluating Gadaffi and Saddam actions in the face of rebellion by its people. The countries that participated in the bombing need to check out their own past when interfering with other countries:

President Lincoln: Ban Slavery resulting in the South seceding from the Union. Lincoln send in troops and military similar to Gadhafi to enforce this orders and to prevent secession, kills thousands of people in a bloody war. Lincoln gets a statue and is memorialized.

United States - Nat Turner and Slave Rebellions: Many slaves led large rebellions against slavery that were eventually put down. All the people that were involved were executed by the State

France and Haiti: Haitians rebels against slavery, France sends in the military to suppress with lethal force. Demands crippling reparations in exchange for a withdrawal of troops.

Britain: The American colonist protest and Declare Independence from the England to continue slavery. England sends in the military killing thousands of people.

Kent State: Student protests the Vietnam War, the military are sent in and students are executed by the National Guard.

Tiananmen square

I am not pro Gadhafi and Saddam, but I refuse to succumb to propaganda to influence my impressions of the situation. If you rise up against the state, expect the military/police to be sent even in the United States and for thousands of people to die.

 

[QueEx]

There needs to be a balanced perspective when evaluating Gadaffi and Saddam actions in the face of rebellion by its people. The countries that participated in the bombing need to check out their own past when interfering with other countries:

President Lincoln: Ban Slavery resulting in the South seceding from the Union. Lincoln send in troops and military similar to Gadhafi to enforce this orders and to prevent secession, kills thousands of people in a bloody war. Lincoln gets a statue and is memorialized.

United States - Nat Turner and Slave Rebellions: Many slaves led large rebellions against slavery that were eventually put down. All the people that were involved were executed by the State

France and Haiti: Haitians rebels against slavery, France sends in the military to suppress with lethal force. Demands crippling reparations in exchange for a withdrawal of troops.

Britain: The American colonist protest and Declare Independence from the England to continue slavery. England sends in the military killing thousands of people.

Kent State: Student protests the Vietnam War, the military are sent in and students are executed by the National Guard.

Tiananmen square

I am not pro Gadhafi and Saddam, but I refuse to succumb to propaganda to influence my impressions of the situation. If you rise up against the state, expect the military/police to be sent even in the United States and for thousands of people to die.

Is this your balanced approach ???

 

[QueEx]

I am not pro Gadhafi and Saddam, but

 

[QueEx]

One video has the pistol pressed against Col Gaddafi's temple before the picture is distorted but
shots are clearly heard in the sound recording Photo: REUTERS

New footage emerged on the internet of fighters holding a silver revolver at the former Libyan leader's temple in a chaotic lynching as he was surrounded by members of the rebel militia.

Britain denounced the apparent execution of Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi by rebel fighters yesterday as a "stain" on the reputation of the country's new rulers.

Philip Hammond, the Defence Secretary, reflected widespread international concerns, including among nations backing the rebel National transitional council (NTC) that Col Gaddafi was subjected to summary justice.

"It's certainly not the way we do things, it's not the way we would have liked it to have happened," he said. "The fledgling Libyan government will understand that its reputation in the international community is a little bit stained by what happened."
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-manner-of-his-death-says-Philip-Hammond.html

 

[QueEx]

Youth Fighter Fired Fatal Shots, Claims Video

Sanad al-Sadek al-Ureibi is recorded claiming that he was angry that
fighters from Misurata, the town that has spearheaded the fight against
Col Gaddafi's regime were taking him away Photo: AFP

As questions swirl over who killed Col Muammar Gaddafi, Libyan rebels posted a YouTube video of one young fighter claiming he had shot him in the head and chest.

Sanad al-Sadek al-Ureibi is recorded claiming that he was angry that fighters from Misurata, the town that has spearheaded the fight against Col Gaddafi's regime were taking him away.

The claim added fuel to growing speculation over how Gaddafi died.

On the video, Ureibi is shown being interviewed by unidentified men, some of them wearing military fatigues , who are congratulating him. They showed a gold ring and a bloody jacket allegedly belonging to Gaddafi, with the ring being engraved with the name of Gaddafi's second wife, Safia, and September 10, 1970, date of their marriage.

"I fired two bullets at him, one hit under his armpit , the other his head. He did not die immediately. It took him half an hour," <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Libyan authorities said they would not prosecute the man if evidence did emerge that he was the killer. Instead he would be treated as a national hero.</span>

Ultimately however it may be impossible to determine despite the multitude of video of his last moments who killed the man who called himself Africa's King of Kings.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...h-fighter-fired-fatal-shots-claims-video.html